>X-From_: [email protected] Wed May 5 09:28:54 1999 >Resent-Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 06:26:14 -0700 (PDT) >From: "theshadow" <[email protected]> >Old-To: "SOUTHERN TRAILS" <[email protected]> >Subject: Daniel Boone's migration >Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:26:47 -0500 >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/1784 > >Hello Folks, > Is there anyone who knows the route Daniel Boone took (opened?) when he >moved from Boonesborough to Missouri? > Thanks, > Jean Hancock I figure he got to the Ohio River and traveled from there.....but let me begin at the beginning of the trail. You probably know most of this, but thought it might have something to help you. Boone was born in PA, but in his teens his family moved to the Yadkin River area of NC. Now going to MO from KY, I would figure he followed the rivers, I will be interested in what others know about that. I think he lead people there around 1799. I know he was appointed a judge or something by the Spanish about 60 miles out of St. Louis. It was not American land until 1803 and the LA. Purchase. Mary [email protected]

Hi, I don't have information about the Youngs you are searching , but was curious about the wagon train list. Could you post that url? Thanks, Jennifer [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > Southern-Trails-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 151 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Wagon Trains [Barbara Handley <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from Southern-Trails-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Wagon Trains > Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:25:47 -0500 > From: Barbara Handley <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi, > I joined this list after reading mail that had been forwarded to another list I am on. The mail was a discussion and list of people on various wagon > trains coming to Alabama from the east. > > I am particularly interested in any information on any Youngs traveling with these wagon trains. Family history is that our Youngs came to Alabama in > a wagon from South Carolina. My resources dried up in Hancock/Winston County in 1860. My great grandfather, Wesley Young, and his wife, Elizabeth > Jones, were listed on the 1860 Census for Hancock/Winston County, and they had been married less than one year. Wesley died during the Civil War--not > in battle, but of illness. They had two children--Adolphus/Dolphus Irvin/Ervin and Martha A. R. Young. > > The courthouse in Winston County burned and there are no records. If anyone has any information about any Youngs coming by wagon train to Alabama, I > would really appreciate hearing from you. > > Barbara Handley > Birmingham,Alabama > [email protected]

Hi, I joined this list after reading mail that had been forwarded to another list I am on. The mail was a discussion and list of people on various wagon trains coming to Alabama from the east. I am particularly interested in any information on any Youngs traveling with these wagon trains. Family history is that our Youngs came to Alabama in a wagon from South Carolina. My resources dried up in Hancock/Winston County in 1860. My great grandfather, Wesley Young, and his wife, Elizabeth Jones, were listed on the 1860 Census for Hancock/Winston County, and they had been married less than one year. Wesley died during the Civil War--not in battle, but of illness. They had two children--Adolphus/Dolphus Irvin/Ervin and Martha A. R. Young. The courthouse in Winston County burned and there are no records. If anyone has any information about any Youngs coming by wagon train to Alabama, I would really appreciate hearing from you. Barbara Handley Birmingham,Alabama [email protected]

Hello everyone, Tonite I was sent the following web site and believe me it is one terrific list of ships and passengers. Know all of you would be interested ! CHECK IT OUT ! <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/rprost/passenger.html">PASSENGER LISTS ON THE INTERNET </A> Gwen Leonard ([email protected])

In a message dated 4/30/99 12:21:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I took this with a grain of salt because I didn't think anyone could survive such a treatment. Could it be that it was used that way and this is what the Iron Rust was for? Any ideas? L.Bell >> Sounds like she was making a spring tonic. She probably didn't know that just daily cooking of meals in her iron skillets, kettles and Dutch ovens was providing her family with a good source of iron. Debby

Is the national cemetery in Fayetteville, Arkansas for WWII soldiers only? If some Civil War veterans are buried there (died around 1910), how would I find out if a person is there? Thanks, Betty

This came from another researcher of Sanfords "I have a document, source unknown, that says the Samfords, along with the Weavers, Seas, Oswalts, Kyers and Prices, migrated from South Carolina(Lexington CO) to Tuscaloosa, Alabama by wagon train about 1818. Reportedly, they settled in the valley of the Black Warrior." Lyn Collins

I note with interest under "Medical Supplies" on this list that Iron Rust is listed as an allowed medical item. My father, who was born in 1892, told us that his mother used to put nails, etc. in water and allow them to rust, then in spring she took out the metal, poured off most of the water and gave them the settlings in a spoon as their iron tonic for spring. I took this with a grain of salt because I didn't think anyone could survive such a treatment. Could it be that it was used that way and this is what the Iron Rust was for? Any ideas? L.Bell

Kathryn, many thanks for the description on the wagon train which left from Carteret Co. NC. The folks you named are all relatives of my husband. I printed out the info and took it straight to him (already half asleep in bed). What a valuable piece of the puzzle you have given us. Funny, the names you mentioned are still prevalent in Carteret Co. over a century later. Whatever wanderlust these 'english' immigrants had, most of them decided to stay put in coastal NC. On Harkers Island where I live, many of the older residents still talk with a strong english accent. Thanks for the post, again. Susan Hancock

Does anyone have any information on the names of any of the families that accompanied William HERRINGTON, Sr., born abt. 1755 in NC and his son, William HERRINGTON, Jr., born after 1780 in NC when they migrated from NC around 1811 and, again, when they migrated, ultimately, to MS, after an aborted trip to Oklahoma? I descend from this line but I am, also, interested if any of my other ancestors from other lines may have accompanied them on this trip. Especially searching for info on surnames: DICKSON/DICKERSON, GRANTHAM, STUCKEY, PIERCE, McCRACKEN, WILSON, MYRICK, PARKER, JENNINGS, BARHAM, EARLE, ADDERTON, COLEMAN, LOUIS/LEWIS, KNIGHT, BRIGHT. Thank you. Sincerely, Bellinda Myrick Barnett

Since this refers to WWII vets, I was wondering just who one might contact to inquire about bodies from WWII?? My husband and I lost three brothers, one who died in Myitkyna, Burma in the Infantry, one who was navy missing in action over Saipan, and one who was drowned in the water in the landing at Midway. The telegrams of deaths said more information to follow. So much for that. I have been thinking a lot lately about trying to find more information. It still rankles me! Jean [email protected] [email protected] wrote: > Some of these cemeteries I have never seen on the web. > > (My families: LEONARD, CARR, COLE, GALLIEN / GALLIER) > > I found the following among my grandmother's papers. Two of her sons were in > the miliary during WWII, one in the Navy, the other in the Marine Corp. > When the Navy Pvt's body was returned to the U.S., my grandmother and > grandfather were given the following list in case they wanted to bury him in > one of the "National Cemeteries." > > Thought this might help some of you in your research: > > (MILITARY) NATIONAL CEMETERIES IN THE UNITED STATES > WWII - (abt. 1944-45) > > ALABAMA > Mobile National Cemetery, Mobile, Ala > > ALASKA > Sitka National Cemetery, Sitka, Alaska > > ARKANSAS > Fayettville National Cemetery, Fayettville, AR > Little Rock National Cemetery, Little Rock, AR > Fort Smith National Cemetery, Garland Ave. & South 6th > Street, Fort Smith, AR > > CALIFORNIA > Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery, Fort Rosecrans, CA > > DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA > Arlington National Cemetery, Arlington, VA > > FLORIDA > Barrancas National Cemetery, Fort Barrancas, FL > > GEORGIA > Andersonville National Cemetery, Andersonville, GA > Marietta National Cemetery, Marietta, GA > > ILLINOIS > Camp Butler National Cemetery, R.F.D. #1, Springfield, IL > Quincy National Cemetery, Quincy, IL > Rock Island National Cemetery, Rock Island, IL > > INDIANA > New Albany National Cemetery, Jay Street & Elkin Ave, > New Albany, IN > > IOWA > Keokuk National Cemetery, 19th & Carroll Streets, > Keokuk, IO > > KANSAS > Fort Leavenworth National Cemetery, Fort Leavenworth, > KS > Fort Scott National Cemetery, Fort Scott, KS > > KENTUCKY > Camp Nelson National Cemetery, Star Route, > Nicholasville, KY > Lebanon National Cemetery, Lebanon, KY > Mill Springs National Cemetery, West Somerset, KY > Zachary Taylor National Cemetery, R.F.D. #6, Box 24, > Louisville, KY > > LOUISIANA > Alexandria National Cemetery, Pineville, LA > Baton Rouge National Cemetery, Baton Rouge, LA > Port Hudson National Cemetery, R.F.D. #1, Zachary, LA > > MARYLAND > Antietan National Cemetery, Sharpsburg, MD > Baltimore National Cemetery, 5501 Frederick Ave., > Baltimore, MD > > MINNESOTA > Fort Snelling National Cemetery, Rt. #3, Minneapolis, MN > > MISSISSIPPI > Corinth National Cemetery, Corinth, MS > Natchez National Cemetery, Natchez, MS > Vicksburg National Cemetery, Vicksburg, MS > > MISSOURI > Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery, 101 Memorial Dr., > St. Louis, MO > Jefferson City National Cemetery, 1042 East McCarty St., > Jefferson City, MO > Springfield National Cemetery, Springfield, MO > > MONTANA > Custer Battlefield National Cemetery, Crow Agency, MT > > NEBRASKA > Fort McPherson National Cemetery, Maxwell, NE > > NEW JERSEY > Beverly National Cemetery, Beverly, NJ > > NEW MEXICO > Santa Fe National Cemetery, Santa Fe, NM > > NEW YORK > Long Island National Cemetery, Farmingdale, NY > Woodlawn National Cemetery, Davis St., Elmira, NY > > NORTH CAROLINA > New Bern National Cemetery, New Bern, NC > Raleigh National Cemetery, East Davis & S. Pottigrew Sts., > Raleigh, NC > Salisbury National Cemetery, Salisbury, NC > Willmington National Cemetery, 2011 Market St., > Wilmington, NC > > OKLAHOMA > Fort Gibson National Cemetery, Fort Gibson, OK > > SOUTH CAROLINA > Beaufort National Cemetery, Beaufort, SC > Florence National Cemetery, Florence, SC > > SOUTH DAKOTA > Fort Meade National Cemetry, Sturgis, SD > > TENNESSEE > Chattanooga National Cemetery, Chattanooga, TN > Knoxville National Cemetery, Tyson St., Knoxville, TN > Fort Donelson National Cemetery, Dover, TN > Memphis National Cemetery, 3569 Jackson Ave., > Memphis, TN > Nashville National Cemetery, Madison, TN > Shiloh National Cemetery, Pittsburg Landing, TN > Stone River National Cemetery, Murfreesboro, TN > > TEXAS > Fort Bliss National Cemetery, Fort Bliss, Tx > Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery, Fort Sam Houston, > TX > > VIRGINIA > Alexandria National Cemetery, Alexandria, VA > Arlington National Cemetery, Fort Myer, VA > City Point National Cemetery, Hopewell, VA > Culpepper National Cemetery, Culpepper, VA > Danville National Cemetery, 721 Lee St., Danville, VA > Fort Harrison National Cemetery, Variana Rd., Richmond, > VA > Glendale National Cemetery, #5, Richmond, VA > Hampton National Cemetery, Hampton, VA > Richmond National Cemetery, Station B, Carrier, > Richmond, VA > Winchester National Cemetery, 401 National Cemetery, > Winchester, VA > > > > ==== Southern-Trails Mailing List ==== > Please remember that real people read the messages you post. > Got a problem? 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The following was partially copied from an article in the Hempstead County Historical Society Journal for 1997, p 91. The address for the Journal is: Post Office Box 1257 Hope, AR 71801-1257 Isaac Anderson Leads a Wagon Train from Indiana to Hempstead County in 1869 Arthur Anderson was grandson of Isaac Anderson who persuaded his father and friends and relatives to sell out and move to Hempstead County, Arkansas in 1869. "My grandfather Anderson led the wagon train from Andersonville, Indiana [should be Crothersville] when my dad was four years old - that was 109 years ago," Arthur said in an interview at his home near Spring Hill in 1980. "My grandfather and his first wife was having family trouble, and he come out here by hisself and went back and persuaded my great-grandfather to sell out and come to Arkansas," Arthur said in an interview at his home near Spring Hill in 1980. "Grandpa and his first wife was having family trouble, and he come out here by hisself and went back and persuaded my great-grandfather to sell out and come to Arkansas." The grandfather bought a section of land and gave each of his children forty acres each. "There were 20-odd wagons and some of them were driving ox and they made them stay behind because they were slower. "It took the movers three months, but it was in the mild part of the year and they made about thirty miles a day. "They lived off the fat of the land coming -- killed squirrels and deer," he explained. Then, thinking about his grandfather, he said, "He could shoot a squirrel out of a tree and he was a gunsmith, too. He would take a piece of a barrel and make you a gun, make triggers and all.....Also, give Grandpa a quart of whiskey and he could build you a chimney in a day. Take the whiskey away and it would take two days. Why, he'd work so fast his hands would bleed." All those who traveled together settled around Patmos..."My folks lived where Tom Hollis lives before you get to Patmos. Grandpa had 160 acres and great-grandpa bought the section of land." James Anderson, father of Isaac Anderson of Crothersville, Indiana was an early settler in that state, migrating in the 1820's. He owned many acres of land in Jackson County where is buried in Steep Hollow Cemetery. His tombstone gives his death date as 1850 in his 77th year. Most of the children and their families made the long journey to Arkansas as well as some of their neighbors, including House, Sturdivant, Barnes, Smithy, Lee, Rider, Black and Light. Another article on p 92 describes the route. That portion is copied; When Isaac Anderson led the wagon train from Crothersville, Indiana, the Rider family was with them. He said that they crossed the Mississippi River at Cairo, Illinois, traveled through Missouri and came through the Ozarks by way of Caddo Gap, Center Point, Washington, {the last 3 in Arkansas} and then to the Spring Hill area.

Some of these cemeteries I have never seen on the web. (My families: LEONARD, CARR, COLE, GALLIEN / GALLIER) I found the following among my grandmother's papers. Two of her sons were in the miliary during WWII, one in the Navy, the other in the Marine Corp. When the Navy Pvt's body was returned to the U.S., my grandmother and grandfather were given the following list in case they wanted to bury him in one of the "National Cemeteries." Thought this might help some of you in your research: (MILITARY) NATIONAL CEMETERIES IN THE UNITED STATES WWII - (abt. 1944-45) ALABAMA Mobile National Cemetery, Mobile, Ala ALASKA Sitka National Cemetery, Sitka, Alaska ARKANSAS Fayettville National Cemetery, Fayettville, AR Little Rock National Cemetery, Little Rock, AR Fort Smith National Cemetery, Garland Ave. & South 6th Street, Fort Smith, AR CALIFORNIA Fort Rosecrans National Cemetery, Fort Rosecrans, CA DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Arlington National Cemetery, Arlington, VA FLORIDA Barrancas National Cemetery, Fort Barrancas, FL GEORGIA Andersonville National Cemetery, Andersonville, GA Marietta National Cemetery, Marietta, GA ILLINOIS Camp Butler National Cemetery, R.F.D. #1, Springfield, IL Quincy National Cemetery, Quincy, IL Rock Island National Cemetery, Rock Island, IL INDIANA New Albany National Cemetery, Jay Street & Elkin Ave, New Albany, IN IOWA Keokuk National Cemetery, 19th & Carroll Streets, Keokuk, IO KANSAS Fort Leavenworth National Cemetery, Fort Leavenworth, KS Fort Scott National Cemetery, Fort Scott, KS KENTUCKY Camp Nelson National Cemetery, Star Route, Nicholasville, KY Lebanon National Cemetery, Lebanon, KY Mill Springs National Cemetery, West Somerset, KY Zachary Taylor National Cemetery, R.F.D. #6, Box 24, Louisville, KY LOUISIANA Alexandria National Cemetery, Pineville, LA Baton Rouge National Cemetery, Baton Rouge, LA Port Hudson National Cemetery, R.F.D. #1, Zachary, LA MARYLAND Antietan National Cemetery, Sharpsburg, MD Baltimore National Cemetery, 5501 Frederick Ave., Baltimore, MD MINNESOTA Fort Snelling National Cemetery, Rt. #3, Minneapolis, MN MISSISSIPPI Corinth National Cemetery, Corinth, MS Natchez National Cemetery, Natchez, MS Vicksburg National Cemetery, Vicksburg, MS MISSOURI Jefferson Barracks National Cemetery, 101 Memorial Dr., St. Louis, MO Jefferson City National Cemetery, 1042 East McCarty St., Jefferson City, MO Springfield National Cemetery, Springfield, MO MONTANA Custer Battlefield National Cemetery, Crow Agency, MT NEBRASKA Fort McPherson National Cemetery, Maxwell, NE NEW JERSEY Beverly National Cemetery, Beverly, NJ NEW MEXICO Santa Fe National Cemetery, Santa Fe, NM NEW YORK Long Island National Cemetery, Farmingdale, NY Woodlawn National Cemetery, Davis St., Elmira, NY NORTH CAROLINA New Bern National Cemetery, New Bern, NC Raleigh National Cemetery, East Davis & S. Pottigrew Sts., Raleigh, NC Salisbury National Cemetery, Salisbury, NC Willmington National Cemetery, 2011 Market St., Wilmington, NC OKLAHOMA Fort Gibson National Cemetery, Fort Gibson, OK SOUTH CAROLINA Beaufort National Cemetery, Beaufort, SC Florence National Cemetery, Florence, SC SOUTH DAKOTA Fort Meade National Cemetry, Sturgis, SD TENNESSEE Chattanooga National Cemetery, Chattanooga, TN Knoxville National Cemetery, Tyson St., Knoxville, TN Fort Donelson National Cemetery, Dover, TN Memphis National Cemetery, 3569 Jackson Ave., Memphis, TN Nashville National Cemetery, Madison, TN Shiloh National Cemetery, Pittsburg Landing, TN Stone River National Cemetery, Murfreesboro, TN TEXAS Fort Bliss National Cemetery, Fort Bliss, Tx Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery, Fort Sam Houston, TX VIRGINIA Alexandria National Cemetery, Alexandria, VA Arlington National Cemetery, Fort Myer, VA City Point National Cemetery, Hopewell, VA Culpepper National Cemetery, Culpepper, VA Danville National Cemetery, 721 Lee St., Danville, VA Fort Harrison National Cemetery, Variana Rd., Richmond, VA Glendale National Cemetery, #5, Richmond, VA Hampton National Cemetery, Hampton, VA Richmond National Cemetery, Station B, Carrier, Richmond, VA Winchester National Cemetery, 401 National Cemetery, Winchester, VA

Before wagon trains became the mode of travel, The pioneer moved into a new country on foot or on horseback, and brought his household goods on pack horses. Onto the pack horses and mules they loaded the family clothing, some blankets and a few other bedclothes, with bed ticks to be filled with grass or hair, a large pot, a pair of pot hooks, an oven with a lid, a skillet and frying pan, a hand mill to grind grain, a wooden trencher in which to make bread, a few pewter plates, spoons, and other dishes, some axes and hoes, the iron parts of a plow, a broad ax, a froe, a saw, and an auger. Added to these were supplies of seeds for fields and vegetable crops, and a few fruit tree saplings. They traveled the buffalo paths, game trails, Indian trails, creeks and rivers to find a place for their new homes. When their destinations was reached, they cut trees and built a log house, split boards with the froe and made a roof which was held on by weight poles, no nails being available. Puncheons were made by splitting logs and having the flat side smooth for floors and door shutters. Some chimneys were made of split sticks covered on the inside with a heavy coating of clay; but usually stones were used for this purpose as they were plentiful. The space between the log walls were filled with mortar called chinks and dobbins. The horses and cattle were turned into the woods to eat grass in the summer and cane in the winter, being enticed home at night by a small bait of salt or grain. The small trees and bushes were cut and their roots grubbed up, while larger trees were girdled and left to die and become leafless. Rails were made and the clearing fenced in, the brush piled and burned, the land plowed and planted. It was work from daylight to dark, to get the cabins built, a wood supply cut and split, before winter came on. After the first year, a larger cabin would be built, leaving the original to become the barn. Other smaller sheds were built to house the corn and grain raised for the family food and the animals. Just some info from my family researches and history. FWIW Ethel

Shirley Thanks so much for posting the allowed provisions for wagon trains! As a teacher, I know that my students would find it very interesting. I can even imagine a lesson where we try to provision a modern day train. I wonder if the Mormon wagon train from a little while back--a modern reenactment--has ever posted a similar list of what they took. Thanks again Debbie

>From: Shirley Larson <[email protected]> >Old-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Subject: Wagon train supplies >Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Resent-From: [email protected] >X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/3099 >X-Loop: [email protected] >Resent-Sender: [email protected] > >What to take on a Wagon Train > >I hope you all enjoy this, I am passing it on. This was extracted from >pages 499-500 of Wayne County KY Marriage >and Vital Records Vol. 2. The list is what each person was allowed to >take in the early wagon train migrations. >Per Wagon > >150 Lb.. of Flour >25 Lb. of Bacon >10 Lb.. Rice >15 Lb.. Coffee >2 Lb.. Tea >25 Lb.. Sugar >1/2 Bushel dried peas >1/2 Bushel dried fruit >2 lb.. Soleratus (Baking Soda) >10 Lb.. Salt >1/2 Bushel Corn Meal >1/2 Small Keg Vinegar >Pepper > >Clothing per person > >Men: >2 Wool Shirts >2 Wool Undershirts > >Women >2 Wool Dresses > >Both: >2 Pair Drawers >4 Pair Wool Socks >2 Pair cotton Socks >4 Colored Handkerchiefs >1 Pair Boots and Shoes >Poncho, Broad Rimmed Hat > >Miscellaneous Per Family > >Rifle, Ball & Powder >9-10 Gallon keg for Water >1 Axe >1 Hatchet >1 Spade >2 or 3 augers >1 Hand Saw >1 Whip or Cross-cut Saw >1 Plow Mold >At least 2 ropes >Mallet for driving picket pins >Matches carried in Bottles, corked > >Sewing Supplies: >(Placed in Buckskin or stout cloth bag) >Stout Linen thread >Large needles, thimble >Bit of Bee's Wax >Few Buttons, buckskin for patching >Paper of pins > >Personal Items > >1 Comb and Brush >2 Toothbrushes >1 Lb. Castile Soap >1 Belt Knife >1 Flint Stone > >Cooking Implements > >Baking pan0used for baking and roasting coffee >Mess Pan, wrought iron or tin >2 Churns one for sweet, one for sour milk >1 Coffee Pot >1 Tin cup with Handle >1 Tin plate knives >Forks spoons, and above per person >1 coffee Mill >1 Camp Kettle >Fry Pan >Wooden Bucket for Water > >Bedding Per Person >1 Canvas >2 Blankets >1 Pillow >One Tent per Family > >Medical Supplies >Iron Rust >Rum and Cognac (Both for Dysentery) >Calomel >Quinine for Aque >Epsom Salts for Fever >Castor Oil > >Best Regards to All, >Shirley Larson > > > >

Another WONDERFUL account of a WAGON TRAIN can be found on this website: <A HREF="ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/al/perry/miscel/tompkins.txt">Click here: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/al/perry/miscel/tompkins.txt </A> ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/al/perry/miscel/tompkins.txt The story is quite long, but worth the reading. Alabama History teachers might find it helpful. Kathryn

Things surely have been slow on this maillist! For a while, messages came so frequently that they collected overnight into quite a heap! To get things going again, let me encourage everyone who has any information about WAGON TRAINS going from the East Coast to the South or West to post a message, giving 1) the surnames of the families you think moved together in the train. Also, include 2) an approximate date if possible. And, of course, 3) the route the WAGON TRAIN followed, if you know it. Pooling our information about WAGON TRAINS might help us all. I'll begin by mentioning a WAGON TRAIN that left Carteret County, NC and traveled in sixty days to Marengo County, AL in 1823. The story goes like this: Joseph Nelson, born 1773, the son of William and Elizabeth Nelson, accompanied by Caleb Dana, sailed from Hunting Quarters (now Atlantic, NC) in Carteret County, NC, to Mobile Bay, Alabama and surveyed Marengo and Baldwin Counties, prior to 1820. Apparently Joseph so liked the new area that thoughts of moving there entered his mind. By this point in time Hunting Quarters had changed considerably. Present day Sea Level, then a part of Hunting Quarters, had been held by family Nelsons, Hamiltons, and Wallaces. The families multiplied and brothers and sisters, aunts, uncles, and cousins had married and brought in new people. Joseph's father, William, had been selling off his 395 1/2 acres inherited from his father, James. So, what had been a 791-acre plantation at the beginning of Joseph's life began changing to a group of smaller farms. From a population of about 40 in 1790, the area grew to a population of about 150 in 1820. In Joseph's eyes, it was getting crowded. Others from Carteret County felt the same as did Joseph. So, in 1823 they organized a wagon train and left Carteret County for Alabama. Originally they settled in Marengo County, AL, but eventually they settled in Baldwin County, AL. The descendants of these travelers have some family memories of the trek. Oxen pulled the wagons which carried all their belongings and each person walked as much as they were able, some making the journey on foot. Naturally some married along the way, bringing other surnames into the group and there were children born along the way. Those families known to have been on the WAGON TRAIN are: WALLACE, NELSON, BISHOP, FULFORD, ROBINSON, STRONG, STIRON (or Styron). They were from Portsmouth, Ocracoke, and Hunting Quarters, North Carolina. Those individuals known to have been on the WAGON TRAIN were: William Fulford, Clifford Fulford and his wife Alice of Portsmouth and their daughters Abigail, born 1806, and Eliza J. Joseph Nelson, Sr., and his wife Abigail Stiron, born 1778, the daughter of Samuel Stiron and Hannah Hamilton Hill of Portsmouth, and their children; Thomas Nelson, born 1795, married in NC in 1815 to Katurah Hall, born 1797, the daughter of Simon and Phebe Hall of Portsmouth, Abisha Nelson, born 1795, married in NC in 1819 to Elizabeth Bishop, Lovey Nelson, born 1797, married in 1823 (during trip in Perry County, AL) to Metzger A Litchfield, Samuel Nelson, born 1800, married in Alabama in 1851 to Nancy Fulford, Elisha Nelson, born 1804, married in Alabama in 1830 to Eliza J. Fulford, daughter of Clifford and Alice Fulford of NC, Amosa Nelson, born 1806, married in 1832 in Alabama to Stephen J. Robinson. Kathryn

In a message dated 4/27/99 12:04:44 AM, [email protected] writes: << Can someone remind me what the URL is for the online census? >> Hi Emily......this is what I have bookmarked for the On line census: http://www.doitnow.com/~moravia/census.html I haven't been there lately, so I can't say whether or not it is up to date. Lotsa luck Hepgrannie

Was your Barnum connected, or associated with the Ringling Bros Barnum and Bailey Circus... Perhaps a gypsy? I am tracing the possibility that there were people of color passing themselves off as NA for Indian land benefits.... --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Harold Miller <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:29:53 +0000 Subject: Canadian river - route to AR? Message-ID: <[email protected]> This maybe is more western trails.....but does anyone have info on the Canadian River which runs thru New Mexico, Texas panhandle, OK.....looks like it ends close to the Arkansas River. Say in 1860.....would there be any way to trace a Native American family along this river? Where there any there? I know this sounds strange. We have our great-grandfather who was at least part Indian just showing up in NW Arkansas around 1860, 1861. Now most men are joining the army then but he somehow manages to stay out. (maybe he had already deserted from someplace else). He marrys and begins his family. Census records say he could not read or write. The marriage record says Moses Branum. 1870 census has Banham, 1880 census Bannam, 1900 census Barnum. It was pronounced by everyone as Barnum and his children spelled it Barnum. Moses was said to have talked funny - a very heavy accent of some kind. Now he said at different times that he was from Canada, MO, KS. Apparently he did not want anyone to really know where he had come from. He is supposed to have gotten to NW Arkansas by river on a raft - always assumed the Mississippi River. Now I have this wild thought that maybe he was from someplace on the Canadian River. Could he have gotten to NW Arkansas by using that river? Thanks Mary [email protected]