Hi, it is now a national Park road with no trucks allowed.Indians once drove pigs down it . We drove up on one end to a park and turned around to finish our work . Mena or Arkansas Chamber of Commerce or maybe Oklahoma have maps and brochures and history on them. for 45 or more miles it is comparable to the Smoky Mountain or Apalachian Trail from Cherokee, N.C. to Gatlainburg, Tenn. and on. Most of it is in Southeastern Oklahoma. circling the Lake above Broken Bow. That is rough and beautiful country. Take care, Charles Wyly

> Do you by any chance have any knowledge >of the men who died at the Alamo? My family history includes the surname of >DAVIS, and I've been getting lots of queries about whether the John Davis who >was killed at the Alamo along with Davy Crockett, Travis, etc., was a member >of my Davis bunch. I haven't been able to find out much about him, but one >person I heard from said that he was in the group from Louisiana who answered >Travis's plea for help, was single, had a twin brother and originally was >from Kentucky. I found a list of the names of the defenders of the Alamo on >the website: > >http://numedia.tddc.net/sa/alamo/TOC.HTML > >but there was no biographical info, just the names. So I was wondering if >you have any info on these men or if you know of a website which may have >something? > >Thanks a bunch, > >Betty not to step on Charles toes.....the site on Bexar County Texas genweb page also give a John Davis born in Kentucky but nothing else. Alamo was Marcy 1836 for the Siege of Bexar Dec 5-10, 1835 there are listed 3 with Davis surname - Lee R. Davis Hiram Davis Travis Davis this is at www.rootsweb.com/~txbexar/189alamo.htm now someplace I did once see a listing of Alamo defenders with bio on each....maybe check out Bexar County Historical society or the library. Mary

Hi, Great Grandad George Milton Moxley, Irish, needed money and took a rich man's place in the Confederate draft. He was with Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest. He died about the time I started to school. He said they had horses, as Cavalry, but ate some of them and walked home to Illinois or Mo. Thought he was in Missouri, he came from Missouri to Texas where a Gov. Augustus King was once Governor- one of Gov. Sevier's descendants who came to Stephenville, Texas on a diffrent road and train than the Wylys, Kays, and Rampleys. King Abstract still operates on the Stephenville Courthouse square. Great Grandad Moxley said the man marching home in front of him shot a wild goat . They hung it in a tree and dressed it. Gen. Forrest's officers confiscated it, leaving them none. It was my understanding that both free and slave Blacks fought for the Confederacy in the ranks of an integrated army and drew full pay and usually freedom. . One unit of New Orleans Blacks volunteered for the Confederacy. A high ranking officer objected, so they went north and joined the Union Army, which sent them white officers, just like World War I and II. the Buffalo Union Soldiers(a name given them by western Indians as a show of respect as the buffalo was sacred to them) were paid 2/3 of the pay of white soldiers until past 1890. In WW 1 and 2, many of their officers were Texas Czech and other immigrant farmers, like Adolph Sulak of West, Texas, then , in WW2, they sometimes fought in Us. uniforms and weapons with the French flag. I was in one of the first fully integrated units in Korean War time- the 15 th Heavy Calvary Group, Fort Polk, La. with the Black 701st of 17 th Calvary group across the road. Our barracks at Camp Polk and Fort Hood was integrated. If I am not mistaken the Reservists in the 701st were heroes in the 751st Heavy Tank Batallion in Ww ii and the entrance street to Fort Hood from old Killeen is named after them. The M.P.s in Camp Polk were fully integrated during the Korean War. According to a teacher of History in Hill College Hillsboro, Texas, the records there in the Audie Murphy Gun Museum and Col. Harold Simpson Confederate Research center show that ships owned from a Kennedy or Fitzgerald kin from Boston - One of Pres. John Kennedy's ancestors was running the slave blockade during the war and some of their ships were so dirty they burned them after the second trip. The Free Black who sold them at the auction block in New Orleans was a 6 foot plus heavy Black ancestor of Dr. Martin Luther King. I have not seen these records they claim to have. Hillsboro claims to be the home of Hood's Texas Brigade. Is this an Urban legend? If you go to Hillsboro on I-35 they have a large outlet mall 2 block from the College. Last month we had the National Liberian Boy's choir in our church in Hewitt(Waco), Texas. Last year it was the National Zambian Boy's Choir. (I think) . Some Sevier kin in East Tennessee did not find slavery profitable nor humane. They sent them back to Liberia and gave them freedom, about the 1840's or so, not knowing where in Africa they came from nor who would accept them Not all tribes in Liberia accepted those returning slaves who could read and write and led in organizing the paper State of Liberia- some were historic enemies. The choir at church had 11 or 12 young men- 7 were blinded by torture in the last 5 years when their parents were slaughterred by descendants of true native tribes. 51% of the children there today do not have living parents. The rebels went in to the Capitol and killed the President, the Congress and most of the judges within recent years. Our news media ignored it. There are not enough schools. European and American churches are now sending support. These students spend the first year in a grass tabernacle and live in a dormitory. by the second year they have one enclosed mud classroom, then they go into more devastated areas and build a 1 room school there during the summer. English is the national language, but no one speaks it. Our church served them the first Ice Cream- Coke float they ever tasted. 1 refused it. If this is true as their guide reported, what in the world were we doing in Somalia and Southeast Asia and Bosnia-again? We are partially responsible for Liberia as a nation- it was our plan. Some Sevier connected families in East Tennessee had letters for the next 10 years begging to come back under a 10 or 20 year labor contract- they said the natives there called them Americans. and were hostile- others returned and tried to start their own american style farms with local slave labor. just has hapenned in Africa for centuries. Do we learn from history, or just keeping whitewashing it with our favorite paint?? Greart Great Great Grandmother Sarah Hawkins Clark Wyly attended an integrated Missionary Baptist Church in the Toccoa- Clarkesville, Ga. area Her grandfather in law Col. Ben Cleveland's servandt Toby became a minister and land speculator and organized Ga & Carolina Churches after Col. Ben's will freed him and gave him money and property. Some members on the roll were slaves and some were not- about 1830's . She claimed to have lived with her grandad John Sevier after her mom Elizabeth died and she was 7. Her stories were being told for the second and third time in Erath County, Texas.by children and grandchildren she lived with while managing Clark land. They were backed up in 1917 by Ben Franklin Wyly, her son and Florence Underwood Eastman and sent to L.D. Wyly Sr., Seneca, S.C. and to me by L.D. Jr of Atlanta, Ga. Will close and quit boring you. Charles Wyly

Can any one tell me more about this pig trail that ran from Mena to Texas? My Duncans traveled from Mansfield, AR to east Texas in the early 1900's. When they reached the shallow ford on the Red River (I think it was just south of Idabel), the Red River was too high, and they had to go west as far as Gainsville before they could cross. Then they doubled back east and headed to their intended destination, Avery, TX which is only a few miles south of Idabel. Would they have come on this pig trail? Thanks, Kathy Duncan

Would the probable route in the 1830's from Dahlonaga, Ga. (near the N. Car. line) to Washington Co., Mo., be overland to the Chattanooga area, then down the Tennessee River? -- Jim Blease mailto:[email protected] Valdosta, Ga. ICQ #: 19431334

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In a message dated Sun, 19 Sep 1999 12:21:41 -0500 "Charles A. Wyly" <[email protected]> writes: << Dorcas Balch married Robert Wyly, Their baby son mentioned in Johnathan K>T> Smith's Wyly Saga was the Capt Alfred Henderson Wyly and His East Texas Redlanders (Including some Balches) who joined Sam Houston at Groce's Crossing with 3 other groups - 2 documented. The next day they defeated Santa Anna at San Jacinto. The Mexican army was starving and low on all supplies, thanks to the Texian and Yucatecian Navies for blocading his supply ships in Vera Cruz. >> Charles - You seem to be quite knowledgeable on so much of Texas history, and since you've just mentioned Sam Houston, Santa Anna & the Mexican Army, I am assuming this pertains to the Alamo. Do you by any chance have any knowledge of the men who died at the Alamo? My family history includes the surname of DAVIS, and I've been getting lots of queries about whether the John Davis who was killed at the Alamo along with Davy Crockett, Travis, etc., was a member of my Davis bunch. I haven't been able to find out much about him, but one person I heard from said that he was in the group from Louisiana who answered Travis's plea for help, was single, had a twin brother and originally was from Kentucky. I found a list of the names of the defenders of the Alamo on the website: http://numedia.tddc.net/sa/alamo/TOC.HTML but there was no biographical info, just the names. So I was wondering if you have any info on these men or if you know of a website which may have something? Thanks a bunch, Betty

this just off the Smith Co TN list. want to know how much Grandpa really paid for something? www.westegg.com/inflation/ Inflation Calculator I tried it, Grandpa always said his land was purchased ca 1880 at a dollar an acre.....which in 1998 money would be $17.09 an acre....still a good buy. Mary

Chattanooga, TN to Waterloo -- Someone emailed me an attachment with an article about it. Would you like me to email it to you? Ann ---------- Betty wrote: >Today several motorcycles with Florida tags passed me on I-65 going south. >This was just north of Birmingham. Someone told me that there was a >motorcycle ride from Some little town in Tennessee to some little town in >Alabama near the Tennessee river commenorating the Trail of Tears. Any one >know which 2 cities these are? \

Charles....whew.....you always give me so much to think about. I know that Thomas Jefferson suggested that the slaves should be sent back to Africa as he did not think just making them free and leaving them living near their former masters would work. Even back then, it was difficult for the founding fathers to reconcile beginning a nation of free men - who owned slaves. Of course the result of allowing our new nation to form with slavery being a part of it, was the war in 1860-1865. It is terrible that so much blood had to spill before we could finally resolve the issue. But when you are talking about people's pocketbooks....and a great deal of wealth in parts of the south was based on cotton which meant slavery.....people are not going to do what is morally right but what will help them to keep their way of life. It was not that people in the north were so much better than people in the south, the north did not depend on slavery for their money. Just look at what happened after the war, while Blacks were given their freedom, they were not given much else. I do think there was something about 20 acres and a mule being given to former slaves, but most of them were out of a job with no education. That is why you will find so much movement of Black families in 1860s-1880s as they tried to find work. Many moved west, I read somewhere that there developed a very prosperous settlement of former slaves in Denver. Black cowboys, Buffalo soldiers, etc. I sure never read about any of them in my history books. Your mention of an Irish ancestor....many do not realize that 1850s railroads were being built thru the south - like Tennessee. Many new men to America got jobs building those railroads. So that is why when war broke out, you find Irish units on both sides, CSA and USA. Someplace there is a listing of railroad works. I know in trying to find one, I finally realized that to find him in census of 1860, he would be living in some type of boarding house. Which meant reading all the census records, not just ones for his name. Duh....sometimes it takes me a while. then someone told me of a listing apparently done by the railroad of boarding houses where these men lived. Railroads did not come to NW Arkansas till much later, think the devastation of the war slowed things down. But when it did, I guess a new immigrant group from Europe built it. Mary

Hi, I may have had more than one Carey, one or more of Bateman, Possibly a South Carolina Hipp older than Great Grandad, possibly a Copeland. All these families were large. Probably was a Sevier or two, also , as Gov. Sevier's (Off Tenn) Grandson was part Cherokee -----Daniel Sevier was an Arkansas Governor. Ring any bells?

Thought this post and reply from the TNGreene County list might be of interest to you "trailers". Marian D. ------------------- >"G. Lee Hearl" wrote: > >> Question: did they move down into the "Greenbriar Colony" area (Montgomery/Botetourt/Wythe Counties) before arriving into Greene County [TN]? >> << >> Comment: Remember, they had to go down to TN to get to Cumberland Gap to go into KY If you ever saw the Blue Ridge Mts, you would see that there is very few places that a horse or wagon could cross. That is >> why the discovery of the Cumberland Pass was so important.<< >> Opinion: Geographically, it is doubtful that a family would have moved from the Shenandoah Valley to the Greenbriar Settlement in present-day West Virginia before moving on to Greene County, Tennessee.. >> There are many rugged mountains between W.Va. and the Valley of Virginia which lays adjacent to the Blue Ridge Mountain.. Between the Shenandoah Valley and the Holston Valley, where Greene County, Tn. is located, there are only a couple of mountains to cross and they aren't very rugged..One is at Christiansburg, Va...the other at Pulaski, Va.. Interstate 81 crosses both with ease..I am of the opinion that if a family started to Greene Co. and were looking to stop for a while, they would have gone to the New River Settlement, near the lead mines in present Wythe Co. area..There are no mountains between there and Tenn.. >> Geograhically, the Blue Ridge Mountain is not a part of the Cumberland and Clinch Mountain range where the Cumberland Gap enters Kentucky.. Those people who migrated from the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia to Ky. did not have to cross over the Blue Ridge, however those who moved from southeastern, Va. and N.C. did have to cross the Blue ridge Mountain... >> There is a map on the net showing the Great Wagon Road from Pa.. to N.C. and it doesn't show the Blue Ridge Mountain, giving the impression that it was easy to move from the Shenandoah Valley to N.C., very misleading... I write this opinion based on my travels throughout the area.... >> G. Lee Hearl..Abingdon, Va.... >> >> reply from Joyce T. >I appreciate your argument, but what you say about it being doubtful that any of the pioneers would go to Greenbrier Co. before they went into TN or KY is not completely true.. Maybe my ancestors were strange, but that is exactly what they did. They went fro PA (Gettysburg) down to Bedford Co and later moved to >Greenbrier and then some went to Greene Co., TN and others went to KY. > >I think we may be forgetting that in the 1700's Greenbrier was partially on the East side of the mountains since it was made from several VA counties. > >Joyce T. >

Hi, one more thought- those in Alabama or east Mississippi just had to make a log raft, float down the Tennessee River past Nashville to the Mississippi and float down to Arkansas, but, really, it's not far from Arcadia Minden, Hodge, and and towns north of I-20 to the Arkansas Mississippi Delta rice Country. Happy hunting, Charles Wyly

Hi, I have already answerred some of this today on another post. Will add some. Tell me if you don't find the other about the Ouachita Maintain Ridge Road from Mena, Ark. to west of Broken Bow, Oklahoma then across the Red River above Paris or Sulfur Springs, Texas. I would have dodged the Caddo lake and swamps around Texarkana if I was in a wagon . >From about 1830 to 1880- maybe longer the Red River had a massive log jam in the Zimmerman sawmill town or Baton Rouge area. It was 65 miles long. This raised the Caddo lake and surrounding swamps water level 4 to 6 feet and Natchitoches, La. on the Cane River was the seaport which downloaded to freight wagons or later the Railroad to send it to Nacodoches, Texas. Jefferson, Texas also became a river port. After the Civil war some engineers gatherred up surplus explosives from the military and blasted the log jam, draining some swamps and causing the Caddo lake at Jefferson, Texas to drop. Natchitoches was required to remove their monument to the good Black folk of the area. Plantations in this area were run by French who married black and at least one run by people of this heritage is open to thepublic with tour guides. North of I-20 is more Scotch- Irish and German . A German wagon train came from Lake Hico, La., Hico, and Arcadia to Hico, Texas and Duffau, Texas. Jefferson is now a bed and breakfast resort with old slave quarters turned int a motel . The lake has regular boat rides through the giant cypres trees , alligators and moss. Some claim the earthquake in 1700's which caused the Missippi to run backwards for a day or so in Arkansas area caused the Caddo lake to become deeper. If you cruise down I-20 you may see a green pasture in the trees. Don't step on it without testing- some of that is floating moss and slime with plants growing on top of the lake water. Take care, Charles Wyly

Joy here, I found the little book Battle Of Pea Ridge, March 7 & 8, 1862 There is a list of Confederate Soldiers taken from Pension records, also the Roster of Stand Watie's Cherokee Brigade. I doubt the lists are complete but if you're looking for a particular person I'll see if he is listed. -j- ----- Original Message ----- From: Harold Miller <[email protected]>To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 9:50 AM Subject: Civil War in Arkansas > My favorite subject, 1860-1865 in Northwest Arkansas.... > > For example: > There was a group of people centered around Searcy County Arkansas, but > think some men from Van Buren County and other nearby counties with family > ties to Searcy County were included. They formed a secret society called > Peace Society. When the vote was taken to leave or stay with the > Union....NW Arkansas voted to stay. Kind of like part of Virginia which > became West Virginia. (for some reason, it seems to me many of the areas in > mountains, TN, KY, NC, etc at first wanted to stay in the Union). When the > vote finally went for AR to leave Union, the governor of Arkansas sent army > up to Searcy County to round up this Peace Society. They had a dawn raid, > caught a lot of them, chained them two by two with heavy logging > chains....thus they were called the chain gang. Marched them to Little > Rock. Special session was called with Governor in charge, told the men to > either join CSA or be shot.....so they all joined. This is such an > interesting story what happened to those men. Some stayed in CSA and were > killed, one was a Turney killed at Pea Ridge, one Turney from chain gang > made it home. Others as soon as possible escaped from CSA and joined USA. > Boman Turney before the battle of Shiloh, told his relative who was with > him, that he was going to try to escape during the battle. After the > battle, his relatives found him shot in the back of the head. The CSA said > he had gotten shot running from the battle as a coward. His family always > felt he had been shot by CSA trying to run to Union lines. > > A good book on Peace Society > YELLAR RAG BOYS > also think there is a list of members on Searcy Co Ar genweb page. > > now go back a few years to ca 1840 > I will say it again. > find these little towns on Arkansas map > Higden in Cleburne County (near Heber Springs) (was Van Buren till 1880s) > Snowball in Searcy County (find Leslie and go north, little west) > Crooked Creek or Bellefonte in Boone County (near Harrison) > now draw a line between these 3 spots....this was first migration route in > that area from 1834-1840s. You will find one Eoff in VBC, one in > CArroll/Boone. One Potter in VBC, one in Searcy County. Etc. I have > always said there needs to be a group for those first families who settled > along that line since it covers more than one county. So many people do not > realize that a first settler in Van Buren county might have had a sister who > went to Searcy County. Or one brother in one county, another further along > the line. If you are researching first families in that area, you have to > look along that line to find their relatives, and the people they lived next > to before the move to Arkansas. These people did come in groups. And one > relative would come, the next year a brother would follow. The connections > between families along this line will knock your socks off. > For example: 1820s a lot of people left area of Smith Co Tennessee (would > include what later was Cannon, Dekalb, etc). They went to Illinois, but by > 1840 or so you find them in Arkansas. Some of their neighbors and relatives > stayed in TN but moved to Arkansas in late 1830s, early 1840s.....so they > met up again. And they stayed in contact up to 1860....some of them went > off together to fight in Mexican War together. Why would a Turney from > Boone county go off with a Campbell from Searcy Co to Mexican War? Because, > the Boone Co Turney, his brother settled in Searcy Co and the Campbell had > married into that family. When you look at roster rolls for any of the wars > or little battles from 1800 - 1860, I can tell you ..... you will find your > ancestor in same unit as his cousins, his wife's family, his mother's > family....they will have different surnames, but relatives served together. > So really look at those roster sheets and check out some of the other names. > > Enough I guess. > > Mary Turney Miller [email protected] > > > ==== Southern-Trails Mailing List ==== > If someone sends a warning about an email virus or asks you to send ANY > message to everybody you know, check out these site to see if it's for real: > IBM AntiVirus Home Page > http://www.av.ibm.com > McAfee: Virus Hoaxes > http://www.mcafee.com/support/hoax.asp > or one of these sites which are very good about virus and > chainletter hoaxes or myths: > http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html > http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACChainLetters.html > http://kumite.com/myths/myths/ > >

Today several motorcycles with Florida tags passed me on I-65 going south. This was just north of Birmingham. Someone told me that there was a motorcycle ride from Some little town in Tennessee to some little town in Alabama near the Tennessee river commenorating the Trail of Tears. Any one know which 2 cities these are? Thanx. Betty

In a message dated 9/19/99 5:22:07 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [email protected] writes: << I was in Mena arkansas doing contract Discover card work a few days and folk there gave me tourists brochures on THE PIG TRAIL- A PREHISTORIC NATIVE AMERICAN TRAIL from Mena , Arkansas >> We just had our 50th High School Reunion and one of my class mates has moved to Mena, AR. They bought land and a log house built over 100 years ago. After 30 years in the Navy he is raising cattle. Betty in Alabama.

I'm looking for my husband's book about the Battle of Pea Ridge or Elkhorn Tavern. It has names of most of the men CSA who were there. My Ward family in Sebastian County AR all served in the Arkansas 4th Cavalry, Union. My Bean/Been family served on both sides. Meaning, when they had served the enlistment CSA and were being conscripted back into the CSA they fled to Fort Smith AR and enlisted in the Arkansas 2nd Infantry Volunteers, Great-grandfather Rufus LeRoy Been served in Co. F. The Battle of Pea Ridge or Elkhorn Tavern was in Benton County AR. The battlefield is a part of the National Park System and there are related buildings with information about the whole thing. I remember that Gen. Granville Dodge, Missouri Union was that leader. I'm not knowledgeable about the War but there were so many independents who fought for who ever they found or found them. My friend who has studied the War in Arkansas for 30 years tells me that men found alone or in a small group were given the choice of fighting with the group who found them or being shot dead on the spot. Two of my family members were hanged because of their Union service and a third one was murdered in Lavaca Arkansas 1883. Shot in the back as he was riding home. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles A. Wyly <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 11:37 AM Subject: Re: AR Civil War > Hi, > haven't checked exact date, but I think you are referring to the Battle > of Pea Ridge. The museum is in whitewater country between Simponsville > and Missouri, or Fort Smith and Eureka Springs. The battlefield was > scaterred over a several mile line. Gen. Stand Waite and his Confederate > Cherokees and Intermarrieds on Cherokee rolls were one group there. This > was near some activity of Youngers, Daltons, and James Brothers- not sure > how many of them were. > > My Grandad Carey's Uncle was injured there. According to records cousin > Rex Carey got from Hoytt Hawkins in the Sulfur Springs, Texas area, > Grandad's Uncle was injured and laid among the dead and dying until > someone on a burial detail saw him move. He recoverred and kept records > for his daughter's store.in Pine Mountain, Charleston, Arkansas & family > spread into Hope and Nashville areas before Texas Have some more on him > if anyone is interested. He claimed to have never drank hard liquor as a > beverage nor used God's name in vain or other rougher type profanity. If > you said "Good Lordy" around my grandparents you were instantly > repirmanded. His brother was Jasper Newton Carey > > Grandad John Henry said he came on a or the Pig Trail from Hope to > Huckaby , Texas, about 1900with a stove, a pump organ, a trunk, a milk > cow, and a dog. > > I was in Mena arkansas doing contract Discover card work a few days and > folk there gave me tourists brochures on THE PIG TRAIL- A PREHISTORIC > NATIVE AMERICAN TRAIL from Mena , Arkansas down a curved Ouachita > Mountain ridge which comes out near the Red River betweeen Fredrick and > Broken Bow. Arkansas wagon trains used this route to Texas to avoid > Caddo lake and several swamps and rivers. They had a shallow ford or > ferry on the Red River, from which you could go to Sulfur Springs or > towards Dallas, where crossings for the Trinity and the Brazos were well > developped and you were in Erath County, 50 miles southwest of Fort > Worth. > > Parents of Jasper Newton Carey were Daniel Carey b. 1810 & Sarah > Cannon, b. 1804, apparently both in North Carolina and > > Grandparents Michael b. 1760. > > G. Grandparents William Carey b. Worchester Co. Maryland in 1733. > > Sources handwritten records from family sources and Bibles in possession > of Williw Ann Carey Ramage. > > Take care, > Charles Wyly > > > ==== Southern-Trails Mailing List ==== > Please remember that real people read the messages you post. > Got a problem? Got a gripe? Don't take it to the list! > Send me a message, and I'll try to take care of it: > mailto:[email protected] > >

Hi, Try checkig Tuscullum College, Greeneville, Tennessee, which also absorbed the old Presbyterian Greeneville College , Rev. Hezekiah Balch, Pres. They have archives of both colleges . Gov. Sevier was a board member of both. They were first and second college west of Appalichian Ridge. Greeneville and Blont College (now U. of Tenn. at Knoxville) were both co-educational- the first in the Nation. U. of Tenn. at Knoxville may be easier to access by Computer. Greenville College has records of james and Robert Wyly and others. Rev. Balch rode to Duncan Creek Presbyterian Church between Newbury and Clinton , South Carolina from Greeneville to ordain elders. and a young pastor he installed was either a John or James Kennedy. He also settled an argument temporarioy that only the scriptural Psalters should be sung, not thad blasphemous Isaac Watts modern stuff (this was Colonial days- the Laurens District was set up by the British to protect the Charleston and other coastal Episcopals from Indians. The Presbyterians of Mecklnburg and other colonies had first choice at the land to be a protective barrier like the Caddo farmers were for the first settlers in Erath County, Texas who protected them from Comanches. The German communities of the south Hill Country had no such buffer. Back to the subject- the men in Duncan Creek came to church in Buckskin shirts, wrap leggings, moccisans, and clubbed hair tied with deerskin strings. One was my ancestor John Copeland, an Elder. The next generations are in Huricane Baptist cemetery, Clinton, then Arkansas and Texas. The women wore long loose sack style dresses and nailed wood blocks on their deerskin moccisans for high heels. The men all brought guns. Rev. "Choctaw "Bill Robinson and Pres. Bro, Bloys and others in early Texas either wore a holster in the pulpit or kept a rifle handy in early camp meetings to keep drunks from breaking up church or protection from irate moonshiners. Visit Dr. J'G.M. Ramsey's home ar Holston River forks on Srtrawberry Plains south of Knoxville . His dad buildt a stone house still standinf with real live guides, not a punch and talk box. They said his Scottish stone masons, like most early Watauga and Knox County settlers came walking with backpacks and/or led pack mules on Indian trails not wide enough for wagons. Now, if the Spanish closed the port at New Orleans, see why Sevier, Blont, and others wanted to keep it open"> Dorcas Balch married Robert Wyly, Their baby son mentioned in Johnathan K>T> Smith's Wyly Saga was the Capt Alfred Henderson Wyly and His East Texas Redlanders (Including some Balches) who joined Sam Houston at Groce's Crossing with 3 other groups - 2 documented. The next day they defeated Santa Anna at San Jacinto. The Mexican army was starving and low on all supplies, thanks to the Texian and Yucatecian Navies for blocading his supply ships in Vera Cruz. Happy hunting, Charles Wyly

Hi, haven't checked exact date, but I think you are referring to the Battle of Pea Ridge. The museum is in whitewater country between Simponsville and Missouri, or Fort Smith and Eureka Springs. The battlefield was scaterred over a several mile line. Gen. Stand Waite and his Confederate Cherokees and Intermarrieds on Cherokee rolls were one group there. This was near some activity of Youngers, Daltons, and James Brothers- not sure how many of them were. My Grandad Carey's Uncle was injured there. According to records cousin Rex Carey got from Hoytt Hawkins in the Sulfur Springs, Texas area, Grandad's Uncle was injured and laid among the dead and dying until someone on a burial detail saw him move. He recoverred and kept records for his daughter's store.in Pine Mountain, Charleston, Arkansas & family spread into Hope and Nashville areas before Texas Have some more on him if anyone is interested. He claimed to have never drank hard liquor as a beverage nor used God's name in vain or other rougher type profanity. If you said "Good Lordy" around my grandparents you were instantly repirmanded. His brother was Jasper Newton Carey Grandad John Henry said he came on a or the Pig Trail from Hope to Huckaby , Texas, about 1900with a stove, a pump organ, a trunk, a milk cow, and a dog. I was in Mena arkansas doing contract Discover card work a few days and folk there gave me tourists brochures on THE PIG TRAIL- A PREHISTORIC NATIVE AMERICAN TRAIL from Mena , Arkansas down a curved Ouachita Mountain ridge which comes out near the Red River betweeen Fredrick and Broken Bow. Arkansas wagon trains used this route to Texas to avoid Caddo lake and several swamps and rivers. They had a shallow ford or ferry on the Red River, from which you could go to Sulfur Springs or towards Dallas, where crossings for the Trinity and the Brazos were well developped and you were in Erath County, 50 miles southwest of Fort Worth. Parents of Jasper Newton Carey were Daniel Carey b. 1810 & Sarah Cannon, b. 1804, apparently both in North Carolina and Grandparents Michael b. 1760. G. Grandparents William Carey b. Worchester Co. Maryland in 1733. Sources handwritten records from family sources and Bibles in possession of Williw Ann Carey Ramage. Take care, Charles Wyly