In a message dated 5/8/01 9:47:16 PM !!!First Boot!!!, llc@zigs.net writes: << I agree. I too have problems but a lady once read my the riot act till I was in tears so now I go very slowly, making sure I hit the right button, but it is wonderful to know people do understand, this lady blocked my addy so I couldn't even try to explain to her. >> There's usually one or more in every crowd. I used to do type setting for a living and I still make typos. My best was when I was working for the county. Got a call from Circuit Court. Gal asked me to pull a form we had done for her. There it was in big, bold type: DIVVORCE DEGREE. I told her that was right. They had graduated from matrimony. She said Judge won't buy it. We had to do the whole thing over. Don't worry about typos. Just keep on sending info. Betty.

Don't worry over typos. We appreciate you and we know what your mean. Keep on line

In a message dated 5/8/01 9:23:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hippee547@aol.com writes: << I,m sorry bout my droppin n misspellin, letters(friends) I am a disabled vn vet,and have nerve problems w/ my discs at base of my scull,keeps my fingers numb, >> That's quite all right...I read and speak fluent typo :) Keep 'em coming, Hippee. By the way, welcome home. Melissa list-admin

I agree. I too have problems but a lady once read my the riot act till I was in tears so now I go very slowly, making sure I hit the right button, but it is wonderful to know people do understand, this lady blocked my addy so I couldn't even try to explain to her. linda in mo. ----- Original Message ----- From: <LadyEbonSwan@aol.com> To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... > In a message dated 5/8/01 9:23:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hippee547@aol.com > writes: > > << I,m sorry bout my droppin n misspellin, letters(friends) I am a disabled > vn > vet,and have nerve problems w/ my discs at base of my scull,keeps my fingers > numb, >> > > That's quite all right...I read and speak fluent typo :) Keep 'em > coming, Hippee. > > By the way, welcome home. > > Melissa > list-admin > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------348249E8F57980F8E63ED9DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phyllis Grissom wrote: > > O my no they carried on all through the War Between the States. > Old Knute lived to a ripe old age. Hollywood did a movie about it shortly > after WWII. It was called "Tap Roots" A lot of folks around here are > descendants of some of Knutes cohorts. The Grissoms all joined the > Confederate Forces, however. Jones County calls itself the Free state of > Jones to this day. I believe there were a few other counties in other States > that did similar things. Phyllis Grissom > ----- Original Message ----- Didn't James Street write a novel by that name and on that subject? I think I read it back in the '40's. Jim Blease --------------348249E8F57980F8E63ED9DF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="leds.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jim Blease Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="leds.vcf" begin:vcard n:; x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 end:vcard --------------348249E8F57980F8E63ED9DF--

In a message dated 5/8/01 6:58:13 PM !!!First Boot!!!, cgrissom@c-gate.net writes: << Hollywood did a movie about it shortly after WWII. It was called "Tap Roots" >> Read the book and saw the movie years and years ago. Had no clue then what it was about. That was way before genealogy and history. <VBG> Betty.

In a message dated 5/8/01 5:06:52 PM !!!First Boot!!!, cgrissom@c-gate.net writes: << The Free State of Jones. The leader Knute Knight is buried just across the creek from us >> I read a book a bunch of years ago about Knight and The Sree State of Jones. It was "Echo of the Black Horn" by Ethel Knight. Got it through an inter-library load from university library here. Does anyone know the genealogy of Knute Knight? My 4th greatgrandmother was mary Knight who married Thomas Graves Coffee. Mary's parents were Mary Smith and Charles Knight of Nottoway, VA. Betty.

Most of the NE Texas area was settled by Tenneseans from 1835 through 1870. My great grandfather Joshua David Coffee and his brother, John James Coffee came to Fannin County in NE Texas, in 1855. They settled in the Orangeville Community. The area was part of the Damron Survey which was a 640 acre land grant to Colonel John Henry Damron from the Republic of Texas. Most of the settlers in that area of Fannin County came from the area of Tennessee around Nashville. I have never determined the route the Texas Trace made that came from Tennessee to NE Texas. The entry point of Texas at the time was at Fulton, Arkansas. It was located on the Red River near present day Texarkana. I assume it was through central Arkansas. Could it possibly up the Red River frome the Mississippi, I doubt it. My great grandfather, my great great grandfather were from Gordonsville, Tennessee on the Cumberland River. My great grandfather married Mary Lou Blanton in June, 1960. Mary Lou Blanton's sister, Nancy, married Colonel John Henry Damron, circa 1850. The Blantons were one of two separate Blanton families in Fannin County Texas. Both those families were from South Carolina. The community of Orangeville in Fannin County was named for Orangeville SC and settled by the Methodist Blantons. My Blanton family were the Methodists and the "other" Blanton Family were the Babtists. A short time ago, I talked to an older gentleman named Ed Blanton in Fannin County from the Babtist family that married a Blanton from the Methodist family. The religious denomination was the only way people could tell the Blanton families apart. The Blanton families from S. Carolina passed through Tennessee on their way to Texas and thus both families became Tenneseans. Jerry Coffee

So glad to see Jerry Coffee on the list. Betty.

The movie was based on james Street's novel. James Street was a baptist preacher in Laurel Jones County Ms. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Blease" <leds@datasys.net> To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------348249E8F57980F8E63ED9DF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Phyllis Grissom wrote: > > > > O my no they carried on all through the War Between the States. > > Old Knute lived to a ripe old age. Hollywood did a movie about it shortly > > after WWII. It was called "Tap Roots" A lot of folks around here are > > descendants of some of Knutes cohorts. The Grissoms all joined the > > Confederate Forces, however. Jones County calls itself the Free state of > > Jones to this day. I believe there were a few other counties in other States > > that did similar things. Phyllis Grissom > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Didn't James Street write a novel by that name and on that subject? I > think I read it back in the '40's. > > Jim Blease > --------------348249E8F57980F8E63ED9DF > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="leds.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Jim Blease > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="leds.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:; > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > end:vcard > > --------------348249E8F57980F8E63ED9DF-- > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

I have copied this from the Reeder query list. It relates to actions by our then Federal government in providing land for white settlements and acquiring and then ceding back land to Indian tribes. There was ineptitude in government then even as now. Some of you may recognize names of ancestors who were in this part of Territorial Arkansas at that time. Charles Middlebrooks Thought everyone would like to have a copy of the petition we have been discussing. You can thank Karol Gale for sharing this information. PETITION TO THE PRESIDENT BY CITIZENS OF MILLER COUNTY [NA:01A, Lets. Reed. (Ark.) DS] [No date, 1825] To the President of the United States, The Petition of the undersigned Inhabitants of that Part of Miller, in the Territory of Arkansas, ceded and confirmed to the Choctaw Nation of Indians, by Treaty made with them at Washington City, in the present Year (1825). Respectfully Sheweth. That the tract of Country upon which Your Petitioners reside, was acquired by the United States from the Quapaw Nation of Indians, by Treaty made with them about the Year 1818. -By which said Treaty, the said tract of Country became a part of the public Lands of the United States. And that the Legislature of the Territory of Missouri (within which the said tract of country was then situated) included the said tract of Country upon which Your Petitioners now reside, within the Civil Jurrisdiction of Hempstead County of that Territory, by an Act of the Legislature thereof (which has since been divided and Miller County erected out of the Western part of said County of Hempstead). That about the Year 1819, a part of the same public Lands upon which Your Petitioners now reside, were under the Authority of the United States surveyed into Townships, and subdivided into sections, as far as Ranges 38 or 39 West, and within about eight Miles of the present western boundary of Arkansas Territory, as established by Act of Congress, and lately surveyed and marked. That on the 5th January 1819 by Authority of an order from the Secretary of War, a few Settlers that were on Red River above Kia-Miche, and on the Arkansas above the Poto, were removed below, and East of those Rivers, to where no prohibition to settling then, or since, existed, and within a few Miles of which point (Kia-Miche on Red River) the public Lands were about that time, or soon afterwards, surveyed into sections, as if to facilitate Settlers in acquiring titles to the Lands they choose to settle, in the usual way provided for by law. That under these encouragements by the Authorities of the Government, there was an immediate and considerable Increase of the settlements at and below Kia Miche, on Red River, upon and near the lands surveyed into sections as aforesaid, most of which settlements were made with a view to being perminant, and improvements large and valuable. That Your Petitioners became greatly alarmed by a Treaty made with said Choctaw Nation of Indians at Dokes stand, about the year 1820, by which the country upon which Your Petitioners reide (together with other large extents of adjoining Territory) was then ceded to said Indians, -But were soon afterwards reconciled by assurances from the President of the United States, received by James Miller, Governor of Arkansas, that it was not the view or intention of the General Government, to remove any of the Settlers from the Lands then ceded to said Indians and that the then settled parts of said country so ceded to said Indians would be repurchased from them, which assurances have been by the Delegate in Congress from said Territory, frequently since that time renewed. And under which assurances, Your Petitioners became satisfied, and have continued enlarging their farms and improvements. Your Petitioners further respectfully represent, that from the time of their first settlement where they now reside, Civil Government, and Civil Jurrisdiction has been extended to them, and Courts of La-w Law established and held, within the tract of Country lately ceded and confirmed to said Choctaw Indians by the aforesaid Treaty of the present year (1825) and that under the authority of an Act of Congress (passed in 1824) granting rights of pre-emption for lands on which to establish permanent seats of Justice of New Counties, a quarter section of land had been selected by the proper commissioners of said County of Miller, and part of the public buildings contracted for. Under which assurances of protection and Civil Government a large number of Settlers have continued to improve enlarge their improvements, plant Orchards, and increase their Stocks &c, up to the present time, and that now to abandon their plantations, and remove their families and property, is to them ruinous and impossible. Your Petitioners are aware, that the General Government have heretofore remove from Indians lands, Citizens of the United States, who settled upon lands owned at the time of such settlements by Indians, Where the settlement at at the beginning were upon Indian lands, but Your present Petitioners respectfully deny having settled upon Indian lands: They settled upon the public -lands of the United States, where settlements were not prohibited by any order of the Government, where part of the public lands were surveyed into sections (a thing Never done for Indian purposes) and where, after the same country was first ceded to the Choctaws, the people have had assurances from the highest Authority, that the settled parts of said Country should be repurchased, and Your Petitioners afforded an opportunity of acquiring titles to their possessions, in the way that the Settlers upon the public lands have usually done, in Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Missouri, Alabama &c. Yet notwithstanding all the foregoing circumstances and assurances, Your Petitioners are now informed, that the lands they now occupy, are ceded and confirmed to said Choctaw Indians, and that Your Petitioners are shortly to be removed from their farms, without payment or recompence for their improvements, to give Place to Indians !! An Act that would have no example in any civilized Government, under the same circumstances which these settlements were made. An improved Country of Citizens where they have had the protection of Civil Laws and Civil Government for more than six successive Years, to be ceded by their Government to a Nation of Indians, has, it is believed, No examples. These settlements, not having been commenced upon the -lands of the Choctaw Indians, but upon the public Lands of the United States, then surveying for market, still claim the same protection of the same laws and Government, under the faith of which they commenced their settlements. To be forced and driven by our own Government from the farms and improvements we have laboured for years to make, for the support of our families, in order to give place to Indians, would under all the circumstances and assurances before mentioned, appear so unjust and unprecedented, and to the Settlers so ruinous, that its enforcement would produce the greatest possible excitement. Your Petitioners therefore respectfully ask of Your Excellencey to suspend the survey of the eastern boundary of Territory, lately ceded to said Choctaw Indians, and to suspend the time of giving said Indians possession of said Territory, and cause to be re-purchased from them, the parts of said Territory settled and improved by Citizens of the United States, as aforesaid East of the Kia-Miche on red River, and of the Poto on Arkansas, where settlements by Citizens has never been prohibited, but approbated and encouraged as before mentioned. As Your Petitioners in duty bound will ever pray Petitioner Names Aaron Coe; Bailey English; Jesse Cheek; Joseph English; Micajah Reder; Solomon Moffitt; John Swagerty; Allon Rains; Thomas Gatathite; Thomas Wafer jun; Thomas Wafer Snr; Mabry Wafer; Josiah Trent; John Trent; Rucker Tanner; Joseph Porter; John J Mors; Lewis Potter; Zacariah Thompson; Wesley Tollett; Elijah Tollett; James Watt; Walter Hogon; Henry Tollett; Henry K Brown; Asa Hartfield; James R, Brown; Travis G Wright; John Hinds-10; John Adams; D Clark; Johnston Bowers; Jonathan Poole; Franklin Greenwood; John Greenwood; Joel Greenwood; Henry B Greenwood; Philip Henson; Nathaniel More-10; William Hensley; Thomas More; John Tucker; Thomas J Garner; Nicholas Porter; Samuel Strickland; John Green; Butler Roberts; Otho, B Cocke; Paul Scarbrough-10; John Farly; Adam Hampton; Thomas Owen; W- Slingland; Wilobe Sparks; Will Woods; Joshua Ewing; Jessey Keliher; George Wilson; Maurice Pendergast; Arther Leebe; Lewis Boatright; Alexander Linch; Mathew Sparks; Thos Boatright; William Modglan; David Gutman; PhiIip Tramell; Allon Miller; Thomas Linch; Thomas P French; Joseph French; Levy C. French; Amos Strickland; Wm Brice Jr; James Amburn; Thomas Cheser; David Fraser; Taylor Polk; Thomas Tramel; James Polk; Ruland Polk; William Bradford; James S. Hanks; Richard Stiles; John Emmerson; Allen Carter; John Will; Elijah Carter; Ad. Chr. Hartung; Joseph Reed; John Stiles; James Harrell; Joel Harrell; Isaac Harrell; Timothy Harrell; Joshua Harrell; Hodg P Raburn; Jacob Nidever; George Nidever; Mark Nidever; Mitchel Crownover; Joseph Adkison; David Frame; Joseph Jenkins; William Stiles; Jesse Perkins; Partrick T Carnall; William Forsyth; Absolom Sparks Jnr; Isaac N Charles; William Brice Junior; Peter Miller; John Morton; Samuel Brice; James Brice; Jas Clark; T. B. Ballard; John Mcvay; John Kerley; John Wood; Noah Reeder; Samuel Guthry; Thomas Guthry; William Guthry; Gorge Lawrence; Jams Lawrence; Walter Poole; David G Strickland; Ezra McElvey; Maurice Pendergast; Hugh McElvey; David lawrence; Wyat Hanks; Jas Strickland; Amos Strickland; Jas McElvey; John Hudson; Adam Lawrence Jun; John Chumney; Ambrose Hilburn; Joseph Clark; John Deck; Joseph Deck; John Roberts; Luke Robberts; John Wolsey; Wreding Robberts; ElsBerry Sparks; John Woolsey; Jonathan Franklin; James Smith Sen; A: Hanscom; Elijah Reid; Charles Curtiss; Abram Tidell; G.G McKinny; Thos Potter; J.C. Ragsdall; James Smith Junior; Samul. S. Fench; M Rulong; Absolam Sparks; I. G. Pennington; Nathl Dixon; Wm Porter; B L Kavanaugh; William Long; Isaack Murphy; George Carlton; John H. Fowler; Benjamin Crownover; G.C. Wetmore; Jas Furguson; Jacob Black; George F. Lawton; John Ring; John Edmondson; Joshua Calloway; William Montgomery; B. Gooch; Andrew Montgomery; W.P. Ferguson; L.M. Rice; David Clap; Jacob Shurley; Nathaniel Mare Junior; Evritt Edwars; Stephen Wiley Jun.; Thomas Wiley; Holawar Noll; Clark, Robinson; Y E Bradsaw; John Newman; Daniel Conner; Thos Coil; Ralph Shelton; Bengeman Geames; Asa Blankinship; Roabit Slaven; Joseph James; Stephen Wingate; Thomas Swagerty; Isaac Landers; Abrm Landers; John Lackey; Mark Lewis; Jane Brown; Margaret Tollett; Pharoah Kitchen; Preston Kitchen; Clayborn Wright; William Pagan; A Carnall; Silas C Blair; Hiram Tidwell; J H Carnall; Partrick Carnall; E G Blair; James Brown; Leonard M Simpson; William King; J. G. W. Pierson; John Noll; Thos Barrow; William Harse; Larken Noll; Elizabeth Denton; Samuel French; John Ball; Levi C. French-10; Samuel Moren; Abram Ogdon; Cornelius Martin; John Robins; Alexr O. Wetmore; Nathaniel Robbins; John Dunlop; Lewis, B. Dayton; William Humphry; William Woods-10; James J. Ward Sr; James J. Ward, Jun; Joshua Robbins; Hugh B. Shaw; Alfred Sain; James Burkhm.; J E Hopkins; Ed Hopkins; Benjamin Polk; Richd Harvey; Danl Wilson; John Oniell; Hiram Tidwell; David Tramell; Dennis Tramell; Mongomer Roberson; William Brice Snr; John Bowman; Henry Nidever; James Lawrence; Jesse Robinson; James Gillelad; James Rains; Daniel Wilson; Adam Laurance; Jesse Shelton; James Anderson; William Shelton; G. N. Martin; Matthew Martin; Jessey Moren; Jason Page; Eligah Cutbuth; Martin G. Noll; Thomas Paterson; William Noll; Samuel Clark; James Hall; Silus Rogers; John McMurry; Joseph Green; William Collins; John Spurlock; James Taylor; Samuel Wyley; Cornelius Wiley; Isaack Tyler; Willis McConn; Charles Moore; Samuel Burnam; John Dollarhide; William Bartlet; George Halbrook; David Umphry; Andrew Dollarhide; A. H. Ash; Young Bradshaw; Sherod Bradshaw; Absalam Bauren; Francis Hopkins; Henry Wyatt Seign; Henry Watt Junior; N. Thomes; George T Boren Endorset~ Petition of sundry inhabitants of Miller County in Arkansas Territory, praying that measures may be adopted to relieve them of the difficulties under which they are placed by the late treaties with the Choctaws, giving them lands in Arkansas." >>

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Was the burial an immediate result of the declaration??? Jim Blease Phyllis Grissom wrote: > > Did you ever hear of the Free State of Jones? Some fellows here in > Mississippi decided that if the state could secede from the Union, the > county could retire from the state. So they declared Jones County, Ms The > Free State of Jones. The leader Knute Knight is buried just across the creek > from us > Phyllis Grissom > --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="leds.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jim Blease Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="leds.vcf" begin:vcard n:; x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 end:vcard --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF--

O my no they carried on all through the War Between the States. Old Knute lived to a ripe old age. Hollywood did a movie about it shortly after WWII. It was called "Tap Roots" A lot of folks around here are descendants of some of Knutes cohorts. The Grissoms all joined the Confederate Forces, however. Jones County calls itself the Free state of Jones to this day. I believe there were a few other counties in other States that did similar things. Phyllis Grissom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Blease" <leds@datasys.net> To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Was the burial an immediate result of the declaration??? > > Jim Blease > > Phyllis Grissom wrote: > > > > Did you ever hear of the Free State of Jones? Some fellows here in > > Mississippi decided that if the state could secede from the Union, the > > county could retire from the state. So they declared Jones County, Ms The > > Free State of Jones. The leader Knute Knight is buried just across the creek > > from us > > Phyllis Grissom > > > --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="leds.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for Jim Blease > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="leds.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:; > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:;;;;;; > version:2.1 > end:vcard > > --------------4AD4D84A5F899E914EDC75EF-- > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

I have one - Manissa James (Jack) Buffington m. in Independence co. AR Aug 1872 to Joseph Bethel Allen Reddell d. 1912 in Cedar Gap, TX. Could she fit in with your Buffingtons? This is my son-in-laws line of Reddell and Riddle out of Giles & Lawrence Co. TN. Dona Inez Reddell m. Robert Lee SACHSE, of Sachse, Collin Co. & Wichita Falls, TX. (G-don't think he was union) Family story is that William SACHSE was raised in a hotel in Herford Prussia and after his parents death William decided to come to America. He came to America with his brother from Prussia. They were separated in NY and never found each other again. William arrived in New York with the equivalent of 75 cents in his pocket in 1840 at the age of 20. He went first to Pennsylvania then Missouri and finally to Collin County Texas where he founded the community of Sachse, Texas in 1842. The Indians were very hostile and drove him back to Lamar County where he made a crop and returned after harvest to Collin Co. The town was nothing more than the resemblance of a dirt road when he arrived receiving a land grant for 640 acres in 1845. He increased his holdings and held about 5000 acres in the area, some of which is now a part of Dallas, TX. He had to sell a substantial portion of his land to pay taxes in the 1880's - unfortunately the part he sold is now the fairgrounds in Dallas. His first home was a dug out which afforded protection from the Indians. Later he built a rock home on top of the original dugout where all of his children were born. He operated a grist mill and a gin in the town and donated the right of way for the Santa Fe Railroad which put Sachse Texas on the map in 1866. He was a good generous man frequently giving flour or grist to his neighbors when they had no money to pay. He suffered many hardships in the settlement of Texas but his courage and fortitude sustained him. His grist mill was powered by ox and horse burned down but he rebuilt the following year a steam powered mill. The bears kept hawling off his pigs. The town had a single church attended by all denominations with the community spirit of to each his own way. Everyone loved Mr. Sachse who remained active in public affairs until his death in 1899. William Sachse was an ardent Free Mason, an Odd Fellow, Knight of Honor, and a Knight of the Golden Rule. He was looked upon as one of the best farmers of Collin County and was one of its best citizens. His legacy of kindness and generosity to others was passed on to his children. His son Jake became a leader in the community and was a kind lovable natured fellow devoted to children. Jake, having no children of his own, devoted much of his money and time to to the Odd Fellows Orphans' Home in Corsicana, Texas. "If there were men in the world like him today, there would be more honesty and sobriety, more fairness, more of the milk of human kindness and brotherly love and more of the Christian graces that inspire noble impulses," (his eulogy given by a friend Mr. A.R. Davis). ___________________________________________________________________ josiebass@zxmail.com 216 Beach Park Lane Cape Canaveral, FL 32920-5003 Home of the *HARRISON* Repository http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~harrisonrep/ My Southern Family WWW: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/ LINDSAY & HARRISON Surnames Mail List Rootsweb.com CSA-HISTORY Mail List CSA-History@usgw.org GENCONNECT: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/FamAssoc.html Data Managed by beautiful daughter Becky Bass Bonner and me, Josephine Lindsay Bass

Did you ever hear of the Free State of Jones? Some fellows here in Mississippi decided that if the state could secede from the Union, the county could retire from the state. So they declared Jones County, Ms The Free State of Jones. The leader Knute Knight is buried just across the creek from us Phyllis Grissom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles A. Wyly" <wyly1@juno.com> To: <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... > Hi, > there were supporters of the Union in several Confederate states, such > as the Texas German immigrants (Some of them) , those in Arkansas, and > Missouri. In Arkansas, some lived in caves to avoid the draft. Some were > forced to serve in the Partisan Rangers and some in the Union Army. Jesse > Woodson James and The Quantrills and Youngers were part of the Rebel > Army who fought abuses of the Partisan Rangers and then the Carpetbaggers > passed a new Missouri Constitution which said anyone who had served in > the Confederate Army could not vote, hold office or pastor a church or > serve as a Deacon. Jesse James's dad was a Baptist Minister. Jesse did > not smoke, chew, or drink and refused to work with drunks, as they would > "Get you killed" . Wonder how how the man buried face down in Jesse's > "Grave" in Missouri got badly stained teeth from years of chewing and > dipping tobacco??? Recent DNA tests only prove if one is descended from > that corpse without positive proof by DNA of living known survivors of > Jesse. > > Now I know why so many from Missouri such as my Great Grandad Moxley > and the Flemings, Ogans,Ponsealots, and many more, including the > families of Gov. Augustus King moved to Stephenville- Erath County. > Texas. many came by Coverred Wagon. Remember, these people had all been > pardoned by Abraham Lincoln, but that meant nothing to the Kansas > Jayhawkers and other Union supporters , who were invited to come to > Missouri and be part of the Carpetbag rule. . > > The Partisan- (Partizan) Rangers were the Confederate Home Front Guard- > in Texas they were Partizan Rangers. Some tried to protect the home front > from Roving Indians and Comancheros and did an excellent job-and tried > to stop the abuse of power - others used it in Texas as an excuse to > kill and plunder German and isolated homes and blame it on Indians or > "German Outlaw Sympathisers" and hang or shoot captives- see info on the > Old Comfort, Texas School Ground, for names of Texas German Immigrants > massacred - sometimes called the Battle of Neuces by Anglo papers- the > monument said "Trueter De Union- True to the Union".They were trying to > get to Mexico like so many Americans went to Canada in Korean & Vietnam > War- religious or Political pacificists. > > Pardon me, you asked about Florida- not sure of a direct answer. My > Double first Cousin is completing her Ph. D..in history to teach in > Florida Colleges. She has checked out Seminole tales of some being from > The Great Lakes Indian tribes, neighbors of the Algoniquins, who were > captured by deciet and sold in the Caribeans as slaves where the Africans > were dying of tropical diseases. Many escaped in or on anything which > would float and came to Florida and Joined the Seminoles. She has enough > documentation to satisfy some Grad school profs. > > Another cousin is a writer of guides for Florida Schools. > > Oh, yes the Confederate Army paid Black soldiers the same pay as Whites- > all Blacks were in integrated units. The Union Army paid "Buffalo > Soldiers: 2/3 the pay that a White got and were in segregated units until > 1890's and we did not fully integrate the Army until 1950. I was in one > of the first Heavy Tank Integrated Units. Could it be that one of the 2 > Calvary you mentioned was a band of Seminole and Blacks who volunteered > as a unit? There was a unit from New Orleans , all Black, who marched in > rank to join the Confederate Army some officers did not trust them, so > they went north and joined the Union Army. Either way, it was a job and a > chance for instant freedom. - a win-win situation. > > Take care, > Charles .a, ?wyly > > On Mon, 7 May 2001 16:56:06 -0400 <breckenridge@alltel.net> writes: > > It is so sad to see someone consider the wonderful information we > > have been > > being blessed with on this site 'junk'. It takes a bit of time for > > everyone > > to get their interests mentioned. Addressing them will come > > eventually, for > > those of us who haven't found answers, as yet. In the meantime, I > > scan each > > post, save those which may have a tie-in, or which are just so > > entertaining, > > and enjoy the camaraderie. > > Enough 'junk' from me! > > My MORGAN line came from NE to Va>MD>NC>SC>GA(?)>FL. I'm reasonably > > sure > > they were of Quaker faith and am interested in the migration of > > Quaker > > families, from 1636- 1850. > > Mr. Wylie, with your vast knowledge, do you know anything about the > > guerrilla bands, or Union Men, who fought against the CSA, in > > Florida, and > > eventually became the 2nd Fl Cavalry, USA? To complicate things, > > there was > > also a 2nd Fl Cavalry, CSA! > > God bless, Carolyn > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

also like to add that I,ve seen the name Buffington---in cem . in Greenwood co. up near Saluda,SC--and my g.grandmother Julia Stone was half Cherokee---she lived to be about 100yrs old,died when I was 10 or so----in the 50s

Now this is REALLY getting interesting,as I,m sittin here going thru email, I discover-----my G.grandmother was (on my mothers side) was a Stone, her father named' John Stone, (from Lexington county,SC) her name was Julia Stone,we have a large Stone fam. cem.here a mile from my house---in Bethlehem community--Batesburg,SC.. my g.uncles w/ named Frank, Mitchell,Kenny,Andrew,and Mcneal Stone---could this connect w/ Ezekial Buffington????? cnat remember the Stone family line further back, but may go up to cem.and look''''

I,m sorry bout my droppin n misspellin, letters(friends) I am a disabled vn vet,and have nerve problems w/ my discs at base of my scull,keeps my fingers numb,'it really distracts me at times,escpeally,as I,ve been a song writer for 30yrs --now--and played guitar since 1957---its upsetting to sit and try to compose,w/ such distraction----PEACE N LUV to all now---and thanks for the ear ta bend---

I,m sorry, that was meant to be Hores, not house---PEACE NLUV ta all now---

I,m finding something new everyday from this site now--its taken me a bit to recover from being offline for a month,and winding up w/ 450pieces of southern chat email,w/ viris threats for my new computer to worry about---even--but I now have two queirys I,d like to respond to--1st,its my understanding that last names many times became 1st names,and 1st names last --viceversa--I had a g.g. uncle Morgan Corder,was told that sometime in the 17 oe 18hundreds that may have happened w/ my family--family history passed down that the Corders worked w/ Morgans to build the Morgan House breed (from Va.,Tenn.,Ky,Nc,and into SC) mainly from the huge Ben Franklin Corder plantation in Chester,Fairfield,"Camden Dist.?" or SC of mid and late 1700s---Also---someone wrote about the Name Johnson--I live, in Lexington County,SC(bordering Edgefield and Aiken cos..the names Johnson and Morris are very popular here---I knew twins back in highsch. in the 60s named Cary and Gary Johnson,very athletic,and blond and tall---also worked w/ several Morris' yrs ago, from Aiken County---so the info keeps coming together--keep it up Ya,ll-------------