I am getting a computer full of the most wonderful stories and I cannot bear to take them off. Guess I will have to get a new folder named Southern Trails (and tales). Print them all off and I will have lots of great reading. I really like history. I am so fascinated with all this "stuff" I forgot who I was going to look for. Armenta...........

Hi, I found ths old book of hand written records in a Garage sale near I-35- the Old Butterfield Stage route from San Antonio to Waco. It was in a very old house near the Skating rink in Hewitt near Waco. The home was part of an estate of a member of the Patton Family ( Payton in Erath County) from the Patton Community between Crawford, Waco, and Valley Mills., Texas. It do not know the connection of the F.M. Holley to thePatton family. , but the elderly gentleman who was selling said the Erath County Paytons were part of his Patton kin. I attended Stephenville High school with a Patton in Stephenville and The Paytons there ran the Payton- Frakes Dairy and bottle milk route in Stephenville. Purchase date of the book was 1881. Maybe the customer list might contain one of your missing links. It contains only credit sales, rent, record of cow breeding, and farm work done by the man, possibly his wife ran the store when he worked. O.C.MANN 4/8/1875 (Looks like 1815- both dates were dim pencil and before the stated date of Purchase) J.S. NORRIS J.F.BROOKS H.G.FURNIS- Orderred from Coe- Younce & Co. St. Joseph missouri wholesaler 11/5/1888) JIM CROOK WESLEY PATTERSON, July 6, 1885 ARTHUR CROW J.S.HOPKINS J.A.CROW W.L. HUTCHISON C.M.CLARK (THERE WERE CLARKS AND WATKINS AND YOWELL IN WACO - WE HAD COMMON ANCESTORS BACK EAST) CHARLEY HUTCHINSON G.W.HUTCHINSON HORACE HARPER H.C.ECHOLS B.W.ECHOLS B.M.JONES Other records show 2/24/1912- $2.24 for headrights (Poll Tax/ or Veterans land claims?) B.M.Jones- $10.00 for rent on place. Total of $61.00 by fall of 1885 ( date reads 1825- has to be a looped open 8 resembling a fancy 2. ) SEVERAL CUSTOMER MIXED MEDICINES AND SALVES FORMULAS ARE GIVEN (Cocaine and Opium were legal over the counter until about 1900, but most people jnew tho use them only as medicine) Grease Heel remedy Smallpox remedy Cleaning solution ( Mix your own) Chroming mixtures ( Bleach- separate recipe for each color) Dry Cleaning mix Cement (Similar to Glue) White Glue Stain Remover (Soured milk was a common ingredient) Washing Compound Rust remover and last but not least- A RECIPE FOR A RABIES CURE- a certain root boiled in a pint of warm milk down to 1/2 pint and given warm on an empty stomach and no food until after 3 P.M. for 3 days, at least. According to Sevier Family History , Grandpa 8 times back, Col. John Sevier also had a cure for cancer in his vest pocket given him by a Cherokee medicine man which he had seen work.. He lost it, so today our scientists are hunting it in South America. Why not hunt it in the Smokies???Harry S. Truman said the Indians gave us tobacco and we gave them Syphlis and Smallpox and it was doubtful which side cheated the other. Actually some of the greatst Indian medicine men - leaders- never lost a patient with herbs and sweat lodges. When they could not cure White man's diseases they felt the Great Spirit had left them and they stoicly jumped into fires and died. Hope this has a foot track which might help you and see how they lived. Castor oil and Quinine and Epson Salts and Soda in water for upset stomach, and a sweat bath near the stove wrapped in blankets was the common cure when I grew up in the 1930's After that, If you could stagger and fever was gone, you were glad to walk 3 miles to school in snow & below 32 degree weather to get out of that house. We did not enjoy sugar coated medicine and stay home faking aan illness. (No the 3 miles 1 way to school was not really uphill both ways. ) I also have an old book of hand written " Perscriptions" from my grandad's house and a daily dairy of 1900 farm work in Texas clear cutting those Mesquite and Oak and shinery and hand digging stumps to farm.Most of Central Texas was clear cut, I think the perscriptions were used by his Grandad Dr. & Rev. and Pharmacist and land seculator, Dr. William Pinckney Hatchett, born Shipley (Pine Mountain) Ga. and organizing churches in Gonzales. and up the Bosque from Waco to Stephenville, and some on Pony Creek. He helped organize the Central Texas Baptist Convention when Baylor University and Mary Hardin Baylor were 20 years old and there was no Texas Baptist Convention. He and a brother were with the short term Texas Rangers with Gen. Taylor of Fort Jessup, La. His fater in law was a Rev. B.T.Stevens of Ga, and buried on Hatchett land on the Duffau Creek. Selden, Texas. Take care, charles A. Wyly Take care, Charles A. Wyly

A friend sent this tio me, thought it was really interesting and am passing it along to the list. http://www.smsu.edu/folksong/maxhunter/index.html It has the recordings of a traveling salesman, Max Hunter who covered much of the ozarks with a reel to reel recorder capturing folk songs from the 50's to the 70's. You can play the songs on real player and the lyrics are printed also. There are several references to the Berryville and Harrison (AR) jail. (Mr. Alford/preformer) Thought you might find it interesting.

Hi, East Texas has some red clay. So does some of Central Texas and the Badlands or Rolling plains from Sweetwater to Snyder to Post , Texas is loaded with a few hundred square miles of Red clay, below the Caprockedge of the High Plains towards Lubbock.El Camino Real" the Spanish Old King's Highway from Natchitoches La. to Nacodoches, Texas and on to San Antonio has a lot of red clay. It passes Raylene, La. and notfr from Zwolie, La. Oldest Spanish and French Iron work decorations in Louisiana are at Natchitoches, facing the old port area. When Civil war explosives were used to blast a 60 mile log jamb of trees from a flood and/or 1700's Earthquake, Natchitoches lost business as they could get to Shrevesport then, before Gov. Huey Long built a low bridge at Baton Rouge, so nothing but barges could get upstream. Caddo Lake at Port Jefferson, Texas saw a 4 or so feet drop in the water level. The first Spanish Capitonl of Texas was near Raylene, Louisiana and old Fort Jessup, where Gen Taylor served before 1836. There were freight wagons from port city of Natchitoches, La. to Nacodoches, Texas Charles A. Wyly On Wed, 9 May 2001 07:49:02 -0500 "Sara D" <sara.d@townsqr.com> writes: > Hi, Larry. First of all, I should make it clear that what I wrote > was an > extraction of an extraction of his Diary. The poor man suffered > from > spiritual battles within himself and most of the diary consists of > accounts > of these battles. A kind lady, whose name I have lost, did the > first > extration for a genealogy magazine, lost the name of that, too. > Sorry. This > lady deserves a great big medal for her work....his diary is really > pretty > dreary. Sometime back I sent her extract to Southern Trails in a > series. > If interested, I guess they would be in Rootsweb's archives. I > had a > computer crash, so lost my own copies. > > I rechecked, and the accounts of the 14th of October are accurate, > i.e., > "baren fork of Clins River." > > Also, "300 yards wide" is what was written in the extract. Maybe > he meant > 300 yards long, bank to bank. I can't put my hands on the whole > diary, so > can't check the "original" copy. > > They were able to buy food for their animals almost every day, so > they > passed through regions that were fairly well populated. He also > commented > on rich, red soil, so obviously passed through Oklahoma somewhere. > Can you > believe it, I have never tried to follow the trail on a map? > > He mentions, several times, difficulty in "changing" money. I > assume he > meant his gold. He also kept a strict account of the money he > spent. Best > regards, Sara > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Hi, correct the size of the Enchanted Rock to 1/4 section of a solid rock . It is called Enchanted because it makes groaning noises at night as the sun's heat leaves the rock and it shrinks. The Indians thought these groaning noises were Spirits of the dead. Take care, Charles A. Wyly On Wed, 9 May 2001 07:27:26 -0500 "Coffee" <j.coff@verizon.net> writes: > Jack Coffee Hays was named for General John Coffee of Tennessee. He > is not > related to the Coffee line in any way. > > General John Coffee was may great, great, great grandfather, David > Coffee's > 1st cousin, or in other words, my great, great, great, great, > grandfather > Peter Coffee and General John Coffee's grandfather, Joshua Coffee > were > brothers. General Coffee was a close friend of Andrew Jackson and > savior > of Jackson several times in gun battles, fist fights and at the > Battle of > New Orleans in 1814. President Jackson was not a very smart man. > He died > thinking the world was flat. Colonel Jack Coffee Hay's father > served under > General John Coffee in the Creek Indian war. He admired the General > so much > that he named his son after him. Jack Coffee Hays' parents later > died of > Yellow Fever then John moved to Texas, became a surveyor and later > a Texas > Ranger. Hays County Texas is named for him. John C. Hays was > appointed as > the Indian agent in Yuma, AZ and later moved to the area around > Oakland CA. > then laid out the township of Oakland Calif. A portrait of John C. > Hays > hangs in the Oakland City Hall. He became a wealthy landowner and > died in > California. > > Jerry Coffee > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles A. Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> > To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:52 PM > Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... > > > >Hi, Jerry, guess you know my Coffee ancestor was the mother of Col. > Ben > >Cleveland of Rev. War . Are you on the Coffee - coffey unofficial > >mailing list? Some on here are. > > > >Col. John Coffee Hayes , Texas Rangers, who fought off a band of > Indians > >from the 6740 acre Red granite mountain- Enchanted Rock- near > Marble > >Falls, Texas. > > > >Some say he was named for a Confederate Army officer , Coffee, and > others > >say he was a Coffee descendant. Wonder if both are right if one > followed > >t2 or more lines of Coffees?? > > > >Take care, > >Charles A. wyly > > > >On Tue, 8 May 2001 08:48:57 -0500 "Coffee" <j.coff@verizon.net> > writes: > >> My great grandfather Joshua David Coffee was in the 14th > Brigade > >> of the > >> Orangeville Independent Home Guard in Fannin County Texas. They > >> were known > >> as "heel-flies" by the local people. They had the authority of > >> unlimited > >> search and seizure and were mainly used to round up diserters and > >> draft > >> dodgers from the Confederate Army. They often hung them on the > spot. > >> They > >> were similar to a Confederate "gestapo". After the War of > Southern > >> Indepandence was over, the Federal Authorities considered these > men > >> Confederate guerillas and were to de arrested and possibly hung. > The > >> Home > >> Guard brigade escorted a number of the prisoners to Fort Towson > in > >> the > >> Indian Territory. This abandoned Union Army garrison was being > used > >> by the > >> Confederate Army as a prison camp. > >> > >> In 1865, the Union League was formed in "Five Corners Area" > of > >> Collin, > >> Grayson, Hunt and Fannin Counties and hostilities continued > between > >> that > >> organization and Confederate sympathsizers until 1875. This > area > >> of Texas > >> did not vote to secede from the Union in 1860 but was compelled > to > >> by the > >> Texas Confederate government. My great grandfather migrated to > >> the Texas > >> frontier in Brown County in 1877 to avoid repriations imposed by > the > >> Federals and the contining strife in the Five Corners area. My > >> great > >> grandfather's older brother, Sgt. John James Coffee, maigrated > to > >> McDonald > >> County Missouri, then back to Texas near Lubbock later in the > >> century. > >> > >> My father told me that Joshua hardly spoke of his activities > in > >> the > >> Home Guard, that is probably because he told my father that he > >> never took > >> the oath to The Union after the war was over. In the spring of > 1863, > >> the > >> 14th Brigade of the Home Guard escorted William Clarke Quantrill, > >> Bloody > >> Bill Anderson and their 500 man regiment of irregular light > cavalry > >> out of > >> Texas from their camp on Little Mineral Creek in Grayson County. > >> They were > >> in Texas after they fled Missouri following the Lawrence Kansas > >> Raid and > >> wintered near Holland Coffee's Trading Post on the Red River. > >> General > >> Henry Eustace McCullough was the cammander of the Home Guard > Units > >> in the > >> North Texas District with Headquarters in Bonham, Texas. > According > >> to > >> evidence found after an investigation the Butts' killing, it was > >> determined > >> that some of Quantrill's men robbbed and murdered Sophia > >> Suttonfield-Coffee-Porter-Butts' husband, Colonel Butts, when he > was > >> returning from a cotton sale in Sherman, Texas. General > McCullough > >> after > >> hearing the evidence, sent the Orangeville Independent Home Guard > to > >> arrest > >> the murderers and return them to Sherman for trial. During the > trip > >> to > >> Sherman, the Home Guard received a dispatch from McCullough's > >> Bonham > >> Headquarters to escort the men to the Indian Territory and > release > >> them on > >> the condition that they never come back to Texas. > >> > >> Jerry Coffee > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Charles A. Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> > >> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com > <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Monday, May 07, 2001 9:09 PM > >> Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... > >> > >> > >> >Hi, > >> >there were supporters of the Union in several Confederate > states, > >> such > >> >as the Texas German immigrants (Some of them) , those in > Arkansas, > >> and > >> >Missouri. In Arkansas, some lived in caves to avoid the draft. > Some > >> were > >> >forced to serve in the Partisan Rangers and some in the Union > Army. > >> Jesse > >> > Woodson James and The Quantrills and Youngers were part of the > >> Rebel > >> >Army who fought abuses of the Partisan Rangers and then the > >> Carpetbaggers > >> >passed a new Missouri Constitution which said anyone who had > >> served in > >> >the Confederate Army could not vote, hold office or pastor a > church > >> or > >> >serve as a Deacon. Jesse James's dad was a Baptist Minister. > Jesse > >> did > >> >not smoke, chew, or drink and refused to work with drunks, as > they > >> would > >> >"Get you killed" . Wonder how how the man buried face down in > >> Jesse's > >> >"Grave" in Missouri got badly stained teeth from years of > chewing > >> and > >> >dipping tobacco??? Recent DNA tests only prove if one is > descended > >> from > >> >that corpse without positive proof by DNA of living known > survivors > >> of > >> >Jesse. > >> > > >> > Now I know why so many from Missouri such as my Great Grandad > >> Moxley > >> >and the Flemings, Ogans,Ponsealots, and many more, including > the > >> >families of Gov. Augustus King moved to Stephenville- Erath > County. > >> >Texas. many came by Coverred Wagon. Remember, these people had > all > >> been > >> >pardoned by Abraham Lincoln, but that meant nothing to the > Kansas > >> >Jayhawkers and other Union supporters , who were invited to come > to > >> >Missouri and be part of the Carpetbag rule. . > >> > > >> >The Partisan- (Partizan) Rangers were the Confederate Home Front > >> Guard- > >> >in Texas they were Partizan Rangers. Some tried to protect the > home > >> front > >> > from Roving Indians and Comancheros and did an excellent > job-and > >> tried > >> >to stop the abuse of power - others used it in Texas as an > >> excuse to > >> >kill and plunder German and isolated homes and blame it on > Indians > >> or > >> >"German Outlaw Sympathisers" and hang or shoot captives- see > info > >> on the > >> >Old Comfort, Texas School Ground, for names of Texas German > >> Immigrants > >> >massacred - sometimes called the Battle of Neuces by Anglo > papers- > >> the > >> >monument said "Trueter De Union- True to the Union".They were > >> trying to > >> >get to Mexico like so many Americans went to Canada in Korean & > >> Vietnam > >> >War- religious or Political pacificists. > >> > > >> >Pardon me, you asked about Florida- not sure of a direct answer. > My > >> >Double first Cousin is completing her Ph. D..in history to teach > >> in > >> >Florida Colleges. She has checked out Seminole tales of some > being > >> from > >> >The Great Lakes Indian tribes, neighbors of the Algoniquins, > who > >> were > >> >captured by deciet and sold in the Caribeans as slaves where the > >> Africans > >> >were dying of tropical diseases. Many escaped in or on anything > >> which > >> >would float and came to Florida and Joined the Seminoles. She > has > >> enough > >> >documentation to satisfy some Grad school profs. > >> > > >> >Another cousin is a writer of guides for Florida Schools. > >> > > >> >Oh, yes the Confederate Army paid Black soldiers the same pay as > >> Whites- > >> >all Blacks were in integrated units. The Union Army paid > "Buffalo > >> >Soldiers: 2/3 the pay that a White got and were in segregated > units > >> until > >> >1890's and we did not fully integrate the Army until 1950. I was > in > >> one > >> >of the first Heavy Tank Integrated Units. Could it be that one > of > >> the 2 > >> >Calvary you mentioned was a band of Seminole and Blacks who > >> volunteered > >> >as a unit? There was a unit from New Orleans , all Black, who > >> marched in > >> >rank to join the Confederate Army some officers did not trust > them, > >> so > >> >they went north and joined the Union Army. Either way, it was a > job > >> and a > >> >chance for instant freedom. - a win-win situation. > >> > > >> >Take care, > >> >Charles .a, ?wyly > >> > > >> >On Mon, 7 May 2001 16:56:06 -0400 <breckenridge@alltel.net> > writes: > >> >> It is so sad to see someone consider the wonderful > information > >> we > >> >> have been > >> >> being blessed with on this site 'junk'. It takes a bit of > time > >> for > >> >> everyone > >> >> to get their interests mentioned. Addressing them will come > >> >> eventually, for > >> >> those of us who haven't found answers, as yet. In the > meantime, > >> I > >> >> scan each > >> >> post, save those which may have a tie-in, or which are just so > >> >> entertaining, > >> >> and enjoy the camaraderie. > >> >> Enough 'junk' from me! > >> >> My MORGAN line came from NE to Va>MD>NC>SC>GA(?)>FL. I'm > >> reasonably > >> >> sure > >> >> they were of Quaker faith and am interested in the migration > of > >> >> Quaker > >> >> families, from 1636- 1850. > >> >> Mr. Wylie, with your vast knowledge, do you know anything > about > >> the > >> >> guerrilla bands, or Union Men, who fought against the CSA, in > >> >> Florida, and > >> >> eventually became the 2nd Fl Cavalry, USA? To complicate > things, > >> >> there was > >> >> also a 2nd Fl Cavalry, CSA! > >> >> God bless, Carolyn > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ============================== > >> >> Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> >============================== > >> >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to > the > >> #1 > >> >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >> > >>http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >> > > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to > the > >> #1 > >> Source for Family History Online. 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An act of Congress in 1821 authorized the construction of the Historic Military Road from Memphis, Tennessee to Little Rock, Arkansas. This road followed a trail from the Mississippi River to the crossing at the St. Francis River at a point near the present line between Cross and St. Francis Counties and continuing on a course due west and nearly parallel with the county line following a course through Taylor's Creek, later named Colt, and continuing through L'Anguille Township and then on to Little Rock, Arkansas.

The two trails through Oklahoma (Indian Territory) ran from Ft. Smith Arkansas to Paris in North Texas and from Ft. Smith to Holland Coffee's Trading Post (Glen Eden) on the Red River, which was about 25 miles northwest of present day Sherman Texas. Holland Coffee also had a trading post just 10 miles west of Ft. Smith in the Indian Territory before he moved and established the trading post on the Texas side of the Red River. The trail to Coffee's trading post from the US Army garrison at Ft. Wichita on the Wichita River was know as the Whiskey Road. The US army used it prior to the Civil War to obtain supplies and whiskey. The trading post was at the confluence of the Red River and the Wichita River. The trail from Ft. Smith to Coffee's Trading Post was part of the Butterfield Stage line running from Ft. Smith Arkansas to California. Neither of those trails entered Texas at Fulton, Arkansas. My great grandfather entered Texas at Fulton Arkansas in 1855 so he must have taken the Texas Trace through southern Arkansas. That conincides with Sara's entry of the old diary. Holland Coffee tried to open a trading post about 150 miles west of his trading post on the Red River. He shortly abandoned the post because it was too far from the protection of the military garrisons. Holland Coffee was killed in a knife fight with John Galway in 1845. His wife, Sophia, continued to run the Trading Post on the Red River afterwards and throughout the Civil War with her subsequent husbands, Porter and Butts. Porter died and Butts was robbed murdered by some of William Quantrill's men. Captain Robert E. Lee of the US Army Corps of Engineers stayed at Coffee's Trading Post in 1860 on his trip back to Virgina from Ft. Mason Texas to assume command of the Army of Northern Virginia. The trail from Ft. Mason east to Austin then due north to Coffee's Trading Post was the Old Military Road that was built by the Republic of Texas Army as a line of commerce to the Indian Territory. The Old Military Road built by the Republic of Texas follows the present day I-35 running through the site of present day Dallas, Texas. John Neely Bryan worked for Holland Coffee at the trading post as an accountant before he moved to the Trinity River and established Dallas, Texas in 1846. That was after Coffee was killed in the knife fight with John Galway. Dallas was incorporated later in 1856. Jerry Coffee -----Original Message----- From: Sara D <sara.d@townsqr.com> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re:Texas Trace >Hi, Larry. First of all, I should make it clear that what I wrote was an >extraction of an extraction of his Diary. The poor man suffered from >spiritual battles within himself and most of the diary consists of accounts >of these battles. A kind lady, whose name I have lost, did the first >extration for a genealogy magazine, lost the name of that, too. Sorry. This >lady deserves a great big medal for her work....his diary is really pretty >dreary. Sometime back I sent her extract to Southern Trails in a series. >If interested, I guess they would be in Rootsweb's archives. I had a >computer crash, so lost my own copies. > >I rechecked, and the accounts of the 14th of October are accurate, i.e., >"baren fork of Clins River." > >Also, "300 yards wide" is what was written in the extract. Maybe he meant >300 yards long, bank to bank. I can't put my hands on the whole diary, so >can't check the "original" copy. > >They were able to buy food for their animals almost every day, so they >passed through regions that were fairly well populated. He also commented >on rich, red soil, so obviously passed through Oklahoma somewhere. Can you >believe it, I have never tried to follow the trail on a map? > >He mentions, several times, difficulty in "changing" money. I assume he >meant his gold. He also kept a strict account of the money he spent. Best >regards, Sara > > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

In a message dated 5/9/01 12:34:37 PM !!!First Boot!!!, j.coff@verizon.net writes: << Jack Coffee Hays' parents later died of Yellow Fever then John moved to Texas, became a surveyor and later a Texas Ranger. Hays County Texas is named for him. John C. Hays was appointed as the Indian agent in Yuma, AZ and later moved to the area around Oakland CA. then laid out the township of Oakland Calif. >> Something else I thought was about the two men is Gen. John Coffee was Surveyor General of Alabama and John Coffee Hays was also a surveyor. Betty.

Thank you Mr. Wyly: Twice down the same road does help to see what you were looking for the first time. I am in touch with Cousin Tom now. They are nice people. I am new at computers and family searching; it is very interesting and so rewarding. Southern Trails is also new to me. I like the travels of all those people moving West and South. I am learning about all the Roads, who took them and why; something I was missing before. Soon I hope to get each set of surnames in my family from where they began and where they stopped. Separately. The man named McCamy was spoken of in the story beginning in Rhone, TN and I want to follow it. If he had a daughter named Susan Jane McCamy, Robinson then he is mine. The McCamy's are very hard to find. Probably because I only know Susan ws born in TN. Have a sweet day all. Armenta...........

Yes, I think it got the name for the War of 1812.....but remember also Texas. (a group of Tennessee men went there to help out.) And before all of that, the Battle of King's Mountain and fighting in South Carolina. Men from what is today Tennessee were always ready to go and help out in a fight. It astounds me the distance they would travel. But then, in the early years these men were at the Falls of the Ohio, some even went to Sandusky Ohio area, all over what is today Georgia, Alabama, etc. They were ready to go out at short notice to chase Indians who were a threat. I think the same could be said of all those early frontier men - the ones in Kentucky were also at Battle of New Orleans, as were some from North Carolina. So if you have an early ancestor in the southern 'frontier' area, check military records and you will probably find him. The battle of Point Pleasant in Lord Dunmore's War was a group out of Shenandoah Valley of VA - but they had already moved onto the Holston river area of TN. Mary Turney Miller >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:51:51 -0400 >From: Richard Forston <rforston@prodigy.net> >To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <v03130305b7137e55da3f@[209.255.3.21]> >Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails]Criticism of introductions (long) >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Just remember, the Volunteer State became known as that as a result of the >volunteers in the War of 1812, not the Civil War. > > > >>Tennessee was called the volunteer state for a reason. I would imagine the >>northern volunteers made life uncomfortable for the southern volunteers after >>the end of the Civil war. Feelings still run high in the south about "The >>War Between the States" >> >>Bev. >

Hi, Larry. First of all, I should make it clear that what I wrote was an extraction of an extraction of his Diary. The poor man suffered from spiritual battles within himself and most of the diary consists of accounts of these battles. A kind lady, whose name I have lost, did the first extration for a genealogy magazine, lost the name of that, too. Sorry. This lady deserves a great big medal for her work....his diary is really pretty dreary. Sometime back I sent her extract to Southern Trails in a series. If interested, I guess they would be in Rootsweb's archives. I had a computer crash, so lost my own copies. I rechecked, and the accounts of the 14th of October are accurate, i.e., "baren fork of Clins River." Also, "300 yards wide" is what was written in the extract. Maybe he meant 300 yards long, bank to bank. I can't put my hands on the whole diary, so can't check the "original" copy. They were able to buy food for their animals almost every day, so they passed through regions that were fairly well populated. He also commented on rich, red soil, so obviously passed through Oklahoma somewhere. Can you believe it, I have never tried to follow the trail on a map? He mentions, several times, difficulty in "changing" money. I assume he meant his gold. He also kept a strict account of the money he spent. Best regards, Sara

In a message dated 5/9/01 2:57:59 AM !!!First Boot!!!, wyly1@juno.com writes: << Some say he was named for a Confederate Army officer , Coffee, and others say he was a Coffee descendant. >> He was named for Gen. John Coffee of TN and AL. This John married Mary Donelson neice of the wife of Gen. Andrew jackson. There is another Gen. John Coffee of GA. The two Johns were 1st cousins and contemporaries. Just something else to confuse genealogists and historians. The Gen John in GA. is the one who laid out the Old Coffee Road. Betty.

Jack Coffee Hays was named for General John Coffee of Tennessee. He is not related to the Coffee line in any way. General John Coffee was may great, great, great grandfather, David Coffee's 1st cousin, or in other words, my great, great, great, great, grandfather Peter Coffee and General John Coffee's grandfather, Joshua Coffee were brothers. General Coffee was a close friend of Andrew Jackson and savior of Jackson several times in gun battles, fist fights and at the Battle of New Orleans in 1814. President Jackson was not a very smart man. He died thinking the world was flat. Colonel Jack Coffee Hay's father served under General John Coffee in the Creek Indian war. He admired the General so much that he named his son after him. Jack Coffee Hays' parents later died of Yellow Fever then John moved to Texas, became a surveyor and later a Texas Ranger. Hays County Texas is named for him. John C. Hays was appointed as the Indian agent in Yuma, AZ and later moved to the area around Oakland CA. then laid out the township of Oakland Calif. A portrait of John C. Hays hangs in the Oakland City Hall. He became a wealthy landowner and died in California. Jerry Coffee -----Original Message----- From: Charles A. Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... >Hi, Jerry, guess you know my Coffee ancestor was the mother of Col. Ben >Cleveland of Rev. War . Are you on the Coffee - coffey unofficial >mailing list? Some on here are. > >Col. John Coffee Hayes , Texas Rangers, who fought off a band of Indians >from the 6740 acre Red granite mountain- Enchanted Rock- near Marble >Falls, Texas. > >Some say he was named for a Confederate Army officer , Coffee, and others >say he was a Coffee descendant. Wonder if both are right if one followed >t2 or more lines of Coffees?? > >Take care, >Charles A. wyly > >On Tue, 8 May 2001 08:48:57 -0500 "Coffee" <j.coff@verizon.net> writes: >> My great grandfather Joshua David Coffee was in the 14th Brigade >> of the >> Orangeville Independent Home Guard in Fannin County Texas. They >> were known >> as "heel-flies" by the local people. They had the authority of >> unlimited >> search and seizure and were mainly used to round up diserters and >> draft >> dodgers from the Confederate Army. They often hung them on the spot. >> They >> were similar to a Confederate "gestapo". After the War of Southern >> Indepandence was over, the Federal Authorities considered these men >> Confederate guerillas and were to de arrested and possibly hung. The >> Home >> Guard brigade escorted a number of the prisoners to Fort Towson in >> the >> Indian Territory. This abandoned Union Army garrison was being used >> by the >> Confederate Army as a prison camp. >> >> In 1865, the Union League was formed in "Five Corners Area" of >> Collin, >> Grayson, Hunt and Fannin Counties and hostilities continued between >> that >> organization and Confederate sympathsizers until 1875. This area >> of Texas >> did not vote to secede from the Union in 1860 but was compelled to >> by the >> Texas Confederate government. My great grandfather migrated to >> the Texas >> frontier in Brown County in 1877 to avoid repriations imposed by the >> Federals and the contining strife in the Five Corners area. My >> great >> grandfather's older brother, Sgt. John James Coffee, maigrated to >> McDonald >> County Missouri, then back to Texas near Lubbock later in the >> century. >> >> My father told me that Joshua hardly spoke of his activities in >> the >> Home Guard, that is probably because he told my father that he >> never took >> the oath to The Union after the war was over. In the spring of 1863, >> the >> 14th Brigade of the Home Guard escorted William Clarke Quantrill, >> Bloody >> Bill Anderson and their 500 man regiment of irregular light cavalry >> out of >> Texas from their camp on Little Mineral Creek in Grayson County. >> They were >> in Texas after they fled Missouri following the Lawrence Kansas >> Raid and >> wintered near Holland Coffee's Trading Post on the Red River. >> General >> Henry Eustace McCullough was the cammander of the Home Guard Units >> in the >> North Texas District with Headquarters in Bonham, Texas. According >> to >> evidence found after an investigation the Butts' killing, it was >> determined >> that some of Quantrill's men robbbed and murdered Sophia >> Suttonfield-Coffee-Porter-Butts' husband, Colonel Butts, when he was >> returning from a cotton sale in Sherman, Texas. General McCullough >> after >> hearing the evidence, sent the Orangeville Independent Home Guard to >> arrest >> the murderers and return them to Sherman for trial. During the trip >> to >> Sherman, the Home Guard received a dispatch from McCullough's >> Bonham >> Headquarters to escort the men to the Indian Territory and release >> them on >> the condition that they never come back to Texas. >> >> Jerry Coffee >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Charles A. Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> >> To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Monday, May 07, 2001 9:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... >> >> >> >Hi, >> >there were supporters of the Union in several Confederate states, >> such >> >as the Texas German immigrants (Some of them) , those in Arkansas, >> and >> >Missouri. In Arkansas, some lived in caves to avoid the draft. Some >> were >> >forced to serve in the Partisan Rangers and some in the Union Army. >> Jesse >> > Woodson James and The Quantrills and Youngers were part of the >> Rebel >> >Army who fought abuses of the Partisan Rangers and then the >> Carpetbaggers >> >passed a new Missouri Constitution which said anyone who had >> served in >> >the Confederate Army could not vote, hold office or pastor a church >> or >> >serve as a Deacon. Jesse James's dad was a Baptist Minister. Jesse >> did >> >not smoke, chew, or drink and refused to work with drunks, as they >> would >> >"Get you killed" . Wonder how how the man buried face down in >> Jesse's >> >"Grave" in Missouri got badly stained teeth from years of chewing >> and >> >dipping tobacco??? Recent DNA tests only prove if one is descended >> from >> >that corpse without positive proof by DNA of living known survivors >> of >> >Jesse. >> > >> > Now I know why so many from Missouri such as my Great Grandad >> Moxley >> >and the Flemings, Ogans,Ponsealots, and many more, including the >> >families of Gov. Augustus King moved to Stephenville- Erath County. >> >Texas. many came by Coverred Wagon. Remember, these people had all >> been >> >pardoned by Abraham Lincoln, but that meant nothing to the Kansas >> >Jayhawkers and other Union supporters , who were invited to come to >> >Missouri and be part of the Carpetbag rule. . >> > >> >The Partisan- (Partizan) Rangers were the Confederate Home Front >> Guard- >> >in Texas they were Partizan Rangers. Some tried to protect the home >> front >> > from Roving Indians and Comancheros and did an excellent job-and >> tried >> >to stop the abuse of power - others used it in Texas as an >> excuse to >> >kill and plunder German and isolated homes and blame it on Indians >> or >> >"German Outlaw Sympathisers" and hang or shoot captives- see info >> on the >> >Old Comfort, Texas School Ground, for names of Texas German >> Immigrants >> >massacred - sometimes called the Battle of Neuces by Anglo papers- >> the >> >monument said "Trueter De Union- True to the Union".They were >> trying to >> >get to Mexico like so many Americans went to Canada in Korean & >> Vietnam >> >War- religious or Political pacificists. >> > >> >Pardon me, you asked about Florida- not sure of a direct answer. My >> >Double first Cousin is completing her Ph. D..in history to teach >> in >> >Florida Colleges. She has checked out Seminole tales of some being >> from >> >The Great Lakes Indian tribes, neighbors of the Algoniquins, who >> were >> >captured by deciet and sold in the Caribeans as slaves where the >> Africans >> >were dying of tropical diseases. Many escaped in or on anything >> which >> >would float and came to Florida and Joined the Seminoles. She has >> enough >> >documentation to satisfy some Grad school profs. >> > >> >Another cousin is a writer of guides for Florida Schools. >> > >> >Oh, yes the Confederate Army paid Black soldiers the same pay as >> Whites- >> >all Blacks were in integrated units. The Union Army paid "Buffalo >> >Soldiers: 2/3 the pay that a White got and were in segregated units >> until >> >1890's and we did not fully integrate the Army until 1950. I was in >> one >> >of the first Heavy Tank Integrated Units. Could it be that one of >> the 2 >> >Calvary you mentioned was a band of Seminole and Blacks who >> volunteered >> >as a unit? There was a unit from New Orleans , all Black, who >> marched in >> >rank to join the Confederate Army some officers did not trust them, >> so >> >they went north and joined the Union Army. Either way, it was a job >> and a >> >chance for instant freedom. - a win-win situation. >> > >> >Take care, >> >Charles .a, ?wyly >> > >> >On Mon, 7 May 2001 16:56:06 -0400 <breckenridge@alltel.net> writes: >> >> It is so sad to see someone consider the wonderful information >> we >> >> have been >> >> being blessed with on this site 'junk'. It takes a bit of time >> for >> >> everyone >> >> to get their interests mentioned. Addressing them will come >> >> eventually, for >> >> those of us who haven't found answers, as yet. In the meantime, >> I >> >> scan each >> >> post, save those which may have a tie-in, or which are just so >> >> entertaining, >> >> and enjoy the camaraderie. >> >> Enough 'junk' from me! >> >> My MORGAN line came from NE to Va>MD>NC>SC>GA(?)>FL. I'm >> reasonably >> >> sure >> >> they were of Quaker faith and am interested in the migration of >> >> Quaker >> >> families, from 1636- 1850. >> >> Mr. Wylie, with your vast knowledge, do you know anything about >> the >> >> guerrilla bands, or Union Men, who fought against the CSA, in >> >> Florida, and >> >> eventually became the 2nd Fl Cavalry, USA? To complicate things, >> >> there was >> >> also a 2nd Fl Cavalry, CSA! >> >> God bless, Carolyn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >> >> >> > >> > >> >============================== >> >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the >> #1 >> >Source for Family History Online. 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5/9/01 12:45am EDT Sara, A very interesting description of the trip from Roane Co, TN to Texas. Just wondering if there might be a typo in the part below (or was that how it was recorded)?....the river is now called the Barren Fork of the Collins River(for those following along on the maps!) >On the 14th the wagons forded Rolling River and the family walked over a >bridge. About 10:00 they reached McMinnville in Waren County. In the >evening they forded the baren fork of Clins River. Then, is "300" correct for the width of the bridge over the Wolf River? That would seem like a very wide bridge by today's standards....not even sure there is even one that wide. >27th, "We supppose that we saw 300 wagons on the road today, being hardly >ever out of sight of a wagon loaded with cotton for Memphis. Went through >Raleigh. Crossed Wolf River on a bridge some 300 yards wide. Looks like they had to carry a fair amount of cash just to pay the tolls & ferries. Thanks for passing that on. Larry Shahan Kodak, TN

In 1869, some of my ancestors traveled in a wagon train from Jackson Co., Indiana to Hempstead Co., Arkansas. The train consisted of about 30 families, according to some articles in a Journal of the Hempstead Co. Arkansas, Genealogical Society, "Springhill from 1870, Part 3". According to the accounts, the train left Jackson Co., IN and traveled southward and passed into Kentucky and crossed the Mississippi at Cairo, IL, and then traveled through Missouri and through the Ozarks into Arkansas, traveling through Caddo Gap, Center Point, Washington, and then to Springhill in Hempstead Co., Arkansas. The names of some of the families were: Rider, Anderson, Light, Lee, Black, Charles Middlebrooks

Amen to that. Charles A. Wyly On Tue, 8 May 2001 17:05:47 EDT LadyEbonSwan@aol.com writes: > In a message dated 5/8/01 9:23:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Hippee547@aol.com > writes: > > << I,m sorry bout my droppin n misspellin, letters(friends) I am a > disabled > vn > vet,and have nerve problems w/ my discs at base of my scull,keeps > my fingers > numb, >> > > That's quite all right...I read and speak fluent typo :) Keep > 'em > coming, Hippee. > > By the way, welcome home. > > Melissa > list-admin > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Hi, Jerry, guess you know my Coffee ancestor was the mother of Col. Ben Cleveland of Rev. War . Are you on the Coffee - coffey unofficial mailing list? Some on here are. Col. John Coffee Hayes , Texas Rangers, who fought off a band of Indians from the 6740 acre Red granite mountain- Enchanted Rock- near Marble Falls, Texas. Some say he was named for a Confederate Army officer , Coffee, and others say he was a Coffee descendant. Wonder if both are right if one followed t2 or more lines of Coffees?? Take care, Charles A. wyly On Tue, 8 May 2001 08:48:57 -0500 "Coffee" <j.coff@verizon.net> writes: > My great grandfather Joshua David Coffee was in the 14th Brigade > of the > Orangeville Independent Home Guard in Fannin County Texas. They > were known > as "heel-flies" by the local people. They had the authority of > unlimited > search and seizure and were mainly used to round up diserters and > draft > dodgers from the Confederate Army. They often hung them on the spot. > They > were similar to a Confederate "gestapo". After the War of Southern > Indepandence was over, the Federal Authorities considered these men > Confederate guerillas and were to de arrested and possibly hung. The > Home > Guard brigade escorted a number of the prisoners to Fort Towson in > the > Indian Territory. This abandoned Union Army garrison was being used > by the > Confederate Army as a prison camp. > > In 1865, the Union League was formed in "Five Corners Area" of > Collin, > Grayson, Hunt and Fannin Counties and hostilities continued between > that > organization and Confederate sympathsizers until 1875. This area > of Texas > did not vote to secede from the Union in 1860 but was compelled to > by the > Texas Confederate government. My great grandfather migrated to > the Texas > frontier in Brown County in 1877 to avoid repriations imposed by the > Federals and the contining strife in the Five Corners area. My > great > grandfather's older brother, Sgt. John James Coffee, maigrated to > McDonald > County Missouri, then back to Texas near Lubbock later in the > century. > > My father told me that Joshua hardly spoke of his activities in > the > Home Guard, that is probably because he told my father that he > never took > the oath to The Union after the war was over. In the spring of 1863, > the > 14th Brigade of the Home Guard escorted William Clarke Quantrill, > Bloody > Bill Anderson and their 500 man regiment of irregular light cavalry > out of > Texas from their camp on Little Mineral Creek in Grayson County. > They were > in Texas after they fled Missouri following the Lawrence Kansas > Raid and > wintered near Holland Coffee's Trading Post on the Red River. > General > Henry Eustace McCullough was the cammander of the Home Guard Units > in the > North Texas District with Headquarters in Bonham, Texas. According > to > evidence found after an investigation the Butts' killing, it was > determined > that some of Quantrill's men robbbed and murdered Sophia > Suttonfield-Coffee-Porter-Butts' husband, Colonel Butts, when he was > returning from a cotton sale in Sherman, Texas. General McCullough > after > hearing the evidence, sent the Orangeville Independent Home Guard to > arrest > the murderers and return them to Sherman for trial. During the trip > to > Sherman, the Home Guard received a dispatch from McCullough's > Bonham > Headquarters to escort the men to the Indian Territory and release > them on > the condition that they never come back to Texas. > > Jerry Coffee > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles A. Wyly <wyly1@juno.com> > To: Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com <Southern-Trails-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, May 07, 2001 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: [SouthernTrails] Re: 'junk' and other things... > > > >Hi, > >there were supporters of the Union in several Confederate states, > such > >as the Texas German immigrants (Some of them) , those in Arkansas, > and > >Missouri. In Arkansas, some lived in caves to avoid the draft. Some > were > >forced to serve in the Partisan Rangers and some in the Union Army. > Jesse > > Woodson James and The Quantrills and Youngers were part of the > Rebel > >Army who fought abuses of the Partisan Rangers and then the > Carpetbaggers > >passed a new Missouri Constitution which said anyone who had > served in > >the Confederate Army could not vote, hold office or pastor a church > or > >serve as a Deacon. Jesse James's dad was a Baptist Minister. Jesse > did > >not smoke, chew, or drink and refused to work with drunks, as they > would > >"Get you killed" . Wonder how how the man buried face down in > Jesse's > >"Grave" in Missouri got badly stained teeth from years of chewing > and > >dipping tobacco??? Recent DNA tests only prove if one is descended > from > >that corpse without positive proof by DNA of living known survivors > of > >Jesse. > > > > Now I know why so many from Missouri such as my Great Grandad > Moxley > >and the Flemings, Ogans,Ponsealots, and many more, including the > >families of Gov. Augustus King moved to Stephenville- Erath County. > >Texas. many came by Coverred Wagon. Remember, these people had all > been > >pardoned by Abraham Lincoln, but that meant nothing to the Kansas > >Jayhawkers and other Union supporters , who were invited to come to > >Missouri and be part of the Carpetbag rule. . > > > >The Partisan- (Partizan) Rangers were the Confederate Home Front > Guard- > >in Texas they were Partizan Rangers. Some tried to protect the home > front > > from Roving Indians and Comancheros and did an excellent job-and > tried > >to stop the abuse of power - others used it in Texas as an > excuse to > >kill and plunder German and isolated homes and blame it on Indians > or > >"German Outlaw Sympathisers" and hang or shoot captives- see info > on the > >Old Comfort, Texas School Ground, for names of Texas German > Immigrants > >massacred - sometimes called the Battle of Neuces by Anglo papers- > the > >monument said "Trueter De Union- True to the Union".They were > trying to > >get to Mexico like so many Americans went to Canada in Korean & > Vietnam > >War- religious or Political pacificists. > > > >Pardon me, you asked about Florida- not sure of a direct answer. My > >Double first Cousin is completing her Ph. D..in history to teach > in > >Florida Colleges. She has checked out Seminole tales of some being > from > >The Great Lakes Indian tribes, neighbors of the Algoniquins, who > were > >captured by deciet and sold in the Caribeans as slaves where the > Africans > >were dying of tropical diseases. Many escaped in or on anything > which > >would float and came to Florida and Joined the Seminoles. She has > enough > >documentation to satisfy some Grad school profs. > > > >Another cousin is a writer of guides for Florida Schools. > > > >Oh, yes the Confederate Army paid Black soldiers the same pay as > Whites- > >all Blacks were in integrated units. The Union Army paid "Buffalo > >Soldiers: 2/3 the pay that a White got and were in segregated units > until > >1890's and we did not fully integrate the Army until 1950. I was in > one > >of the first Heavy Tank Integrated Units. Could it be that one of > the 2 > >Calvary you mentioned was a band of Seminole and Blacks who > volunteered > >as a unit? There was a unit from New Orleans , all Black, who > marched in > >rank to join the Confederate Army some officers did not trust them, > so > >they went north and joined the Union Army. Either way, it was a job > and a > >chance for instant freedom. - a win-win situation. > > > >Take care, > >Charles .a, ?wyly > > > >On Mon, 7 May 2001 16:56:06 -0400 <breckenridge@alltel.net> writes: > >> It is so sad to see someone consider the wonderful information > we > >> have been > >> being blessed with on this site 'junk'. It takes a bit of time > for > >> everyone > >> to get their interests mentioned. Addressing them will come > >> eventually, for > >> those of us who haven't found answers, as yet. In the meantime, > I > >> scan each > >> post, save those which may have a tie-in, or which are just so > >> entertaining, > >> and enjoy the camaraderie. > >> Enough 'junk' from me! > >> My MORGAN line came from NE to Va>MD>NC>SC>GA(?)>FL. I'm > reasonably > >> sure > >> they were of Quaker faith and am interested in the migration of > >> Quaker > >> families, from 1636- 1850. > >> Mr. Wylie, with your vast knowledge, do you know anything about > the > >> guerrilla bands, or Union Men, who fought against the CSA, in > >> Florida, and > >> eventually became the 2nd Fl Cavalry, USA? To complicate things, > >> there was > >> also a 2nd Fl Cavalry, CSA! > >> God bless, Carolyn > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >> > > > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. 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Descendants of Marmaduke Daniel 1 Marmaduke Daniel .. +Nannie Still ........ 2 Mary Daniel ............ +Thomas Buffington ................... 3 Joshua Buffington ....................... +Saber Lynch ............................. 4 Mary Jane Buffington ................................. +Robert Fletcher Wyly 1827 - ........................................ 5 Percy Wyly ........................................ 5 Robert Lee Wyly ........................................ 5 Julia Wyly ........................................ 5 Albert Sidney Wyly ........................................ 5 William Buffington Wyly 1875 - ............................................ +Cora McNair .................................................. 6 Lucien Wyly .................................................. 6 Robert Fletcher Wyly .................................................. 6 Sidney Mcnair (Sid) Wyly ...................................................... +Glenna Revard ............................................................. 7 III Robert Fletcher Wyly ............................................................. 7 Dr. Michael Wyly ............................................................. 7 Mark Wyly ............................................................. 7 Robert Wyly ............................................................. 7 James Clark Wyly ........................................ 5 Marmaduke H. Wyly ........................................ 5 Zoe Augusta Wyly Hi, I am named Charles Augustine Wyly- 5 Augustines in a row. Some spelled it Augustus or Augustin. It was in honor of a fampus benevolent Georgia Judge and journalist who wrote under the name Atticus in newspapers. He published a book, DAVEY cROCKETT, BY HIMSELF, but Atticus or Judge Augustin Smith Clayton wrote it. I think changing phonics has fouled the name up. For example, John Sevier's dad, Valentine Sevier, pronounced his name VOL-IN-TIN or just Vol. Perhaps the Tahlequah Wylys can help you. They carried the Marmaduke name on. They will read your message. They are descended from Gen. Joseph Martin and Col. Ben Cleveland's wife's sister, Susannah Graves and Capt. John Stuart , Rev. War. most of their lineage on theBushyhead- Buffington line . was from mixed Cherokee marriagesMy great grandad Robert Augustine Wyly and their Wyly ancestor , William Clark Wyly, were brothers. Capt. Wyly gave his land to his former slaves and he and wife Amelia Starr are buried in Tyler , Texas. The Buffington marriage was in Mayesville, Arkansas, once part of Indian land. Mayesville or Cherokee rolls might help yopu. Some are on the net and in your library microfilms. Take care, Charles A. Wyly On Mon, 7 May 2001 22:21:47 -0500 "armenta" <armenta@brightok.net> writes: > For Wyly and Sylvia: > > Only a question at this time. I read your lists of descendants of > Ezekiel Buffington. You list Mary Daniel as the wife of Thomas > Buffington. Can you please tell me who are Mary Daniel's parent's, > here brother's and sister's and the children born to Thomas and > Mary? And, do you know where the names Marmaduke and Augusta > originated? > > I know I am reaching but I can't seem to grasp some of the > information from the Sevier Family Book and connect it to my > ggg-grandmother Cornelia Sevier, Smithhart, Harrison of Warren > County, MS and later McLennan County, TX > > Perhaps I am seeing one thing and thinking another but, When > Cornelia's daughter Francis Levenia Smithhart, Gibson, Bassette, two > of her son's, and a grandson applied for Cherokee Citizenship in the > Indian Territory she said her Grandmother's name was Nancy Daniel of > the Long Swamp in Cherokee County, GA and some how the Buffington's > and a Mary Daniel seem to play a part in this family puzzle. > > I have studied all these families and researched many different ways > but I am still not completely satisfied with what I have. Do you > have anything you would like to add to or ask about this > information. > > Thank you both for your input. > > Armenta..... > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the > #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Nov 1st. arrived at St. Francis River...an end to the swamp. Paid $2 to ferry across. 2nd, passed Longee toll bridge, paid $3. 3rd, level country, beginning of small prairies. 4th, ferried White River and a bayou. 5th, "struck the grand prairie." 6th, left the prairie, "which is 30 miles wide" 7th, rested. 8th, country flat and poor. "We passed another Arkansas shaving machine [to wit toll gate] which cost $1." 9th, Little Rock...country hilly, piny, poor and rocky, but the water clear and pure and plenty. 10th, Benton. 11th, Mr. Clarke left them as he would settle in Arkansas. Came to Rockport, then ferried the Wahatau. 12th, forded Caddo River. 13th, set out up the Caddo, camped 3 miles from Antwine. 14th crossed the Antwine River and after a short distance turned right. Crossed Wolfe Creek. 15th, forded little Missouri River and "some fine creeks." 16th, traveled the road along the Sabine bottom and camped 6 miles from Little River. 17th, ferried Little River for $2.50. 18th, bad road through Red River bottoms. Turned up Red River here and had good road along the bank. Camped that night on Texas soil. 19th, travel. 20th, arrived at Clarksville in Red River County. 21st, rain and more rain and stopped in a school house to dry their bedding. 22nd, traveled only 16 miles. 23rd, arrived at Paris in Lamar County and went 5 more miles to "Mr. Morgan's." 24th, arrived at Honey Grove. 25th, rain and snow....arrived at Bonham in Fannin County, "which appears to be in a growing and flourishing condition." 26th, Kentucky town at Pilot grove, then to Bing Newton's, halted to look at the country. 28th, "found friend, John Furgason" A few days after the 19th of December [he had tried for 19 days to rent land], he purchased a "survey on Pilet [sic] Grove Creek for which I paid $600 in gold and $300 in a wagon and mare." He raised a house and was cutting boards to "cover" when a note from James P. Dumas notified him that he had prior claim to the land....he happened to be with the man from whom he, Deatherage, purchased the land, Charles Carter, the night before the land was paid for. Deatherage thought it strange that he waited until the house was raised before claiming the land. Carter then gave him another section lying on the Cedar branch of Choctaw, which he accepted. I hope this may prove useful to someone. Happy hunting, Sara Deatherage Jerry Coffey wrote: <snipped> I have never determined the route the Texas Trace made that came from Tennessee to NE Texas. The entry point of Texas at the time was at Fulton, Arkansas. It was located on the Red River near present day Texarkana. I assume it was through central Arkansas. Could it possibly up the Red River frome the Mississippi, I doubt it.

John English Deatherage took his family from Roane County, Tennessee, "on Thursday the 7th of October 1852." A James McCamy traveled with them. They crossed the Tennessee River the first day. The next night they camped on the summit of the Cumberland Mountain. On the 12th they began their descent from the mountain, passing a resort at a medicinal spring, and camping at Sparta. On the 13th, they "came to Rock Island Ferry and paid 90 cents for ferriage." On the 14th the wagons forded Rolling River and the family walked over a bridge. About 10:00 they reached McMinnville in Waren County. In the evening they forded the baren fork of Clins River. From the head of Noah's fork of Duck River they travelled downstream 10 or 12 miles and finally crossed it on a "high and tottering bridge." On the 16th they crossed Wawtrace creek and the tracks of the Nashville railroad "under whose railing the telegraph wires passed" and arrived in Shelbyville, after which they again crossed the Duck River. On the 17th they took the route to Louisburg, "then turning to the left we came to Cornerville." On the 18th, "We made our way for Tinnville, Giles County. After leaving there we left the pke road...." On the 19th, ...."Campbellsville.....Weakly Hills.....Pike Road and telegraph wires leading from Nashville to Orleans.....traveled it a short distance, then turned to the right for Waynsborough.....we met a family going back from Texas giving a very bad account of the country." On the 21st traveled down Hardins Creek. On the 22nd passed Turkey Creek and Horse Creek, crossed the Tennessee River at Savanah. 23rd passed through the town of Burdy. 24th, crossed Hatchey River by ferry...passed a family by the name of Clarke. Passed through Boliver. 25th, vast cotton fields and "droves of negroes busily employed in picking out cotton. 26th arrived at Sommerville, then "Beautiful mansions and large cotton fields were nearly constantly in view, but water is scarce." Mr. Clarke had joined them, along with two young men and that day another young man joined them. No names. 27th, "We supppose that we saw 300 wagons on the road today, being hardly ever out of sight of a wagon loaded with cotton for Memphis. Went through Raleigh. Crossed Wolf River on a bridge some 300 yards wide. 28th, arrived in Memphis. "The town was alive with cotton wagons and the bank of the river nearly covered with their bales." Also, "I bought a cloth coat of fine quality for $7, also groceries for our Journey - flour, bacon, sugar, molasses, coffee - costing in the whole $18.50.....[and] a revolver at $10.00. They crossed the river in a steam boat, which cost $5.75....passed 2 toll gates which cost $2.24. "We now began the see the effects of the Arkansas shaving machines." 29th....crossed "the fish-lake" and camped that night near the edge "of the swamp" 30th, started across the Mississippi swamps. "...wagon after wagon began to sink in the mire", his did, also. "This swamp is indescribable. It is a vast level of 30 odd miles across, at this time mostly covered with water consisting of lakes, bayous, lagoons and cane brakes and nearly without inhabitants." "........My wagons and some Kentuckians got separated from the main body of movers and finally worked our way through....got to the main road and dry land about sunset and encamped near a Mr. Smiths at Skell Fish Lake." 31st, "they are taking wagons over the bayou on 2 canoes" To be continued in next e-mail...sorry I let this one go on so long.