At 11:12 PM 9/2/02 -0400, you wrote: >Do know if there is a slave schedule for Clarke Co., Ms (1850-1860)? >I am researching the Brown's and the Davis's. ======================================= Yes there is. I ran a search on Brown & Davis surnames who were listed as slaveholders in the 1850 & 1860 Slave Schedules for Clarke Co. Miss The following is what it pulled. If you would like a lookup for the complete entry on any of these that look familiar let me know I will see what I can do. Hope this helps --MarieB-) 1850 Clarke Co. Miss. Slave Schedule BROWN, WILLIAM H. Township: Beat 5 Page: 307 BROWN, WASHINGTON Township: Beat 2 Page: 319 DAVIS, R. W. Township: Beat 1 Page: 284 1860 Clark Co. Miss Slave Schedule BROWN, A. Page: 506 BROWN, ARCHIBALD Page: 519 BROWN, L. B Page 515 BROWN, M. B. Page 502 BROWN, M. R. Page 502 DAVIS, C. L. Page: 510 DAVIS, H. Page: 498 DAVIS, N. A. Page: 502 DAVIS, R. W. Page: 501 DAVIS, ROSIER Page: 515

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FR.2ADI/82.3 Message Board Post: Ramona & Brenda, There is also the following web site for old mystery pictures: http://www.ancientfaces.com/cgi-bin/index.cfm Try posting it there.... and good luck... Really enjoyed the picture with the cow. Imagine wearing the long skirts of that time and having to pick you way past the paddys.... Nelda M. Davis

Good Morning Vjay, Marie has access to the information on Ancestry; so she could be a big help to you in researching Slave Information on Ancestry. Marie, Vjay and all thank you for sharing with the list. Enjoy the Day! Ramona ------Original Message------ On Sun Sep 1 12:19:34 2002 vjay@epix.net wrote: Hi everyone, Ramona was helping me manuevur Ancestry.com since I'm a subscriber but just wasn't aware of the process to get to the slave schedules. Sorry if I added to the confusion. Vjay

Good Morning, You are welcome and the slave schedule for Russell Co. VA is on Mike Dye's excellent site on www.usgenweb.com Mike is the CC for Russell County, VA. I do allot of research in Russell Co. as that is where my English-Fraley-Osborne-Shoemaker Ancestors lived and many died. Sincerely, Ramona ------Original Message------ On Sun Sep 1 15:04:18 2002 Endure101@aol.com wrote: Thanks. I had never seen a slave schedule and will learn how to find it on ancestry.com

Good Morning Marie and All, Marie thank you for the links to your homepage and also for the lookups you have done on the surnames: Bass and Mallory. Sincerely, Ramona ------Original Message------ On Sun Sep 1 10:47:09 2002 rmbeck@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Ramona and everyone No everything on Ancestry.com doesn't require that you be subscribed. I had used their articles/columns maps and census extraction forms before I ever subscribed to the Census Images. However to access the Slave Schedules at Ancestry you must be a subscriber to their Census Images online as I noted in my post. I was answering the question asked by another Southern Plantation subscriber on the list about how to get to the slave schedules. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. The article that I mentioned, UNRAVELLING THE 1850 & 1860 SLAVE SCHEDULES, is not at Ancestry and may be of use to anyone who is researching the slave schedules. I am not researching any slave names so far. My gr gr gr gr grandfather Peter Luna, wholived in Marshall Co. TN until his death in 1851 owned some slaves. I have a copy of his will but it doesn't mention them by name in the will. It might in court documents following his death. I've not had the opportunity to check. I have transcribed the 1850 & 1860 Slave Schedules of Van Buren Co. TN and have them online at the urls below (You will probably need to copy and paste into browser as they are long urls) 1850 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rmbeckman/census/TN/vanburen/slave1850.html 1860 http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rmbeckman/census/TN/vanburen/slave1860.html Thanks, MarieB

Please lookup in the 1870 SC census Adam McFarland (Chesterfield county)

Marie, Quick question: Is there a correlation with the Page number that shows when you get a federal census record "hit" from Ancestry.com and the pages that contain the images (and not an index). For example, I found a Thomas Pattillo on page 222 of NC 1870 federal census index for Granville County, but when I went to the actual images for Granville County, NC, 1870, there are over 600 pages and no relationship to the page 222 that showed on the record match. Any help you can provide will be appreciated. Vjay ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Beckman <rmbeck@bellsouth.net> To: <SOUTHERN-PLANTATIONS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: [Southern-Plantations] a few more Bass households on SC Census > Here are a few more I found that were in SC > --MarieB > > 1800 Chesterfield Co. SC > Page 100 > Joseph Bass--head of household > 00000-00000-60 > which indicates 6 free non-whites > > > 1820 Kershaw Co. SC Federal Census > Page 145 > Elijah Bass 000000 00000-0400-1000-1000-0301-0101 which "translates" to > 4 persons engaged in agriculture > 1 male slave under 14 > 1 female slave under 14 > 3 free colored males 14-26 > 1 free colored male 45 & up > 1 free colored female 14-26 > 1 free colored female 45 & up > > 1820 Darlington Co. SC > page 71 > Betsy Bass > 3 free colored females under 14 > 1 free colored female 26-45 > > 1820 Darlington Co. SC > page 71 > Sally Bass > 2 Free Colored Females under 14 > 1 Free colored female 26-45 > > > ==== SOUTHERN-PLANTATIONS Mailing List ==== > If you become unsubbed do to a virus, computer glitch, or over-full > mail box-please resub. > SOUTHERN-PLANTATIONS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Marie, I have found using the Slave Schedule without the index is too painful. I found in the 1850 NC, Craven County, the images but no indexes. I located an Elizabeth Bigelow but it was after waiting for each image to show up and then enlarging each one. Are you using a process that is easier to view images? I'm going to go to the library and use the microfishe. It's got to be easier. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Beckman <rmbeck@bellsouth.net> To: <SOUTHERN-PLANTATIONS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: [Southern-Plantations] a few more Bass households on SC Census > Here are a few more I found that were in SC > --MarieB > > 1800 Chesterfield Co. SC > Page 100 > Joseph Bass--head of household > 00000-00000-60 > which indicates 6 free non-whites > > > 1820 Kershaw Co. SC Federal Census > Page 145 > Elijah Bass 000000 00000-0400-1000-1000-0301-0101 which "translates" to > 4 persons engaged in agriculture > 1 male slave under 14 > 1 female slave under 14 > 3 free colored males 14-26 > 1 free colored male 45 & up > 1 free colored female 14-26 > 1 free colored female 45 & up > > 1820 Darlington Co. SC > page 71 > Betsy Bass > 3 free colored females under 14 > 1 free colored female 26-45 > > 1820 Darlington Co. SC > page 71 > Sally Bass > 2 Free Colored Females under 14 > 1 Free colored female 26-45 > > > ==== SOUTHERN-PLANTATIONS Mailing List ==== > If you become unsubbed do to a virus, computer glitch, or over-full > mail box-please resub. > SOUTHERN-PLANTATIONS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thank you so much for the lookup.

Here are a few more I found that were in SC --MarieB 1800 Chesterfield Co. SC Page 100 Joseph Bass--head of household 00000-00000-60 which indicates 6 free non-whites 1820 Kershaw Co. SC Federal Census Page 145 Elijah Bass 000000 00000-0400-1000-1000-0301-0101 which "translates" to 4 persons engaged in agriculture 1 male slave under 14 1 female slave under 14 3 free colored males 14-26 1 free colored male 45 & up 1 free colored female 14-26 1 free colored female 45 & up 1820 Darlington Co. SC page 71 Betsy Bass 3 free colored females under 14 1 free colored female 26-45 1820 Darlington Co. SC page 71 Sally Bass 2 Free Colored Females under 14 1 Free colored female 26-45

Here are all the Bass owners I found listed on the 1860 SC index 1860 Slave Schedule Darlington Co. SC Page 370 Josiah Bass--owner 1 40 yr old female black 1 34 yr old female black 1 22 yr old male black 1 38 yr old male black 1 26 yr old male black 1 11 yr old male black 1 11 yr old male black 1 35 yr old male black 1860 Slave Schedule Marion Co. SC page 306 J. C. Bass--owner 1 slave house 1 38 yr old male black 1 38 yr old female black 1 23 yr old female black 1 22 yr old male black 1 18 yr old female black 1 11 yr old male black 1 11 yr old female black 1 8 yr old female black 1 4 yr old female black 1860 Slave Schedule Marion Co. SC Page 319 T. R. Bass--owner 3 slave houses 1 28 yr old male black 1 17 yr old male black 1 40 yr old female black 1 ? yr old female black could be 85 or 25 1 18 yr old female black 1 16 yr old female black 1 12 yr old female black 1 10 yr old male black 1 7 yr old female black 1 3 yr old male black 1 1 yr old female black 1 1 yr old male black SC 1860 Slave Schedule Marion Co. Page 274a Jas. D. Bass--owner 5 slave houses 1 45 yr old male black 1 40 yr old male black 1 30 yr old female black 1 25 yr old female black 1 31 yr old female black 1 65 yr old female black 1 18 yr old male black 1 18 yr old male black 1 19 yr old male black 1 16 yr old male black 1 14 yr old male black 1 7 yr old male black 1 1 yr old male black 1 7 yr old male black 1 8 yr old female black 1 7 yr old female black 1 9 yr old female black 1 8 yr old female black 1 3 yr old female black 1 2 yr old female black 1 1 yr old female black SC 1860 Slave Scedule Marion Co. page 274b Jos W. Bass ---owner 3 slave houses 1 34 yr old female black 1 24 yr old female black 1 23 yr old male black 1 22 yr old male black 1 21 yr old male black 1 20 yr old male black 1 32 yr old female black 1 22 yr old female black 1 17 yr old female black (the following had a mark thru the age) 1 8 yr old male black 1 6 yr old male black 1 4 yr old male black 1 3 yr old female black 1 9 yr old female black 1 8 yr old female black 1 4 yr old male black 1 5/12 yr old female black 1 6 yr old male black 1 4 yr old male black

Ramona mentioned that there were some on the list searching the Malloy slave name in SC I found the following Malloys on the slave schedules listed as owners and below is their listings I transcribed. These are from the 1860 schedule. --MarieB 1860 Slave Schedule Chesterfield Co. SC Page 97 A. Malloy--owner 4 slave houses Slaves Quantity--- age-- gender-- color 1 50 yr old male black 1 35 yr old female black 1 31 yr old female black 1 30 yr old female black 1 20 yr old male black 1 18 yr old female black 1 15 yr old female black 1 14 yr old male black 1 14 yr old male black 1 12 yr old female black 1 12 yr old male black 1 10 yr old male black 1 10 yr old male black 1 8 yr old female black 1 8 yr old female black 1 7 yr old male black 1 6 yr old male black 1 5 yr old male black 1 5 yr old female black 1 3 yr old male black 1 3 yr old female black 1 2 yr old female black 1 1 yr old male black 1860 Slave Schedule Chesterfield Co. SC Page 96 D. Malloy--owner 2 slave houses Slaves Quantity--- age-- gender-- color 1 50 yr old male black 1 40 yr old female mulatto 1 25 yr old female black 1 19 yr old male black 1 18 yr old female black 1 18 yr old female black 1 18 yr old female black 1 15 yr old female black 1 13 yr old male black 1 12 yr old male mulatto 1 2 yr old female black 1860 Slave Schedule Chesterfield Co. SC Page 82 Edward Malloy--owner 4 slave houses Slaves Quantity--- age-- gender-- color 1 43 yr old male mulatto 1 41 yr old male black 1 38 yr old female black 1 38 yr old female black 1 35 yr old female black 1 35 yr old female black 1 32 yr old female black 1 30 yr old female black 1 28 yr old male mulatto 1 21 yr old male black 1 20 yr old male mulatto 1 19 yr old female black 1 19 yr old male black (writing smudged) 1 19 yr old female black (writing smudged) 1 19 yr old male mulatto (writing smudged) 1 19 yr old male black 1 18 yr old male black 1 18 yr old male mulatto 1 18 yr old male mulatto 1 17 yr old male mulatto 1 16 yr old male black 1 16 yr old female black 1 15 yr old female black 1 15 yr old female black 1 13 yr old female black 1 13 yr old male black 1 12 yr old male black 1 12 yr old female black 1 11 yr old female black 1 10 yr old female black 1 8 yr old male black

Thanks so much. I have found the slave schedules.

Thanks for the slave schedule info. I am researching Ballard and Wilson from Virginia; Zacharie, Sylvestre/er, Alexander from Louisiana; Bolden from Alabama and Ventress, Morris, Lewis

Thanks. I will check it out. I really need the information

Thanks. I had never seen a slave schedule and will learn how to find it on ancestry.com

Hi everyone, Ramona was helping me manuevur Ancestry.com since I'm a subscriber but just wasn't aware of the process to get to the slave schedules. Sorry if I added to the confusion. Vjay ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Beckman <rmbeck@bellsouth.net> To: <SOUTHERN-PLANTATIONS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [Southern-Plantations] Re: Ancestry.com-Limited to Paid Researchers? > > Hi Ramona and everyone > > No everything on Ancestry.com doesn't require that you be subscribed. I > had used their articles/columns maps and census extraction forms before I > ever subscribed to the Census Images. However to access the Slave > Schedules at Ancestry you must be a subscriber to their Census Images > online as I noted in my post. I was answering the question asked by > another Southern Plantation subscriber on the list about how to get to the > slave schedules. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. > > The article that I mentioned, UNRAVELLING THE 1850 & 1860 SLAVE SCHEDULES, > is not at Ancestry and may be of use to anyone who is researching the slave > schedules. > > I am not researching any slave names so far. My gr gr gr gr grandfather > Peter Luna, who > lived in Marshall Co. TN until his death in 1851 owned some slaves. I have > a copy of his will but it doesn't mention them by name in the will. It > might in court documents following his death. > I've not had the opportunity to check. > > I have transcribed the 1850 & 1860 Slave Schedules of Van Buren Co. TN and > have them online at the urls below > (You will probably need to copy and paste into browser as they are long urls) > 1850 > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rmbeckman/census/TN/vanburen/slave1 850.html > > 1860 > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rmbeckman/census/TN/vanburen/slave1 860.html > > Thanks, > MarieB > > > At 06:09 AM 9/1/02 -0400, you wrote: > > >Good Morning Marie and All, > >Marie to do research on Ancestry.com one must be a paid member; isn't this > >true? > >On the list we should help one another freely. > >So with that in mind the list is researching: > >Bigelow > >Bass > >Ball > >Malloy--SC. > >I will write the slave researchers who post free info on other Slave lists > >I admin or host and see what we can find on these surnames. > >Marie what slave surnames are you researching? > >Thank You, > >Ramona > > > >------Original Message------ > >On Sat Aug 31 21:02:06 2002 > >rmbeck@bellsouth.net wrote: > >If you are subscribed to the US Census Images online > >The Slave Schedules for 1850 & 1860 Census are > >available once you have selected State and County > >You will have the option of Townships/Districts or > >Slave Schedules if there is one available. > >The Slaves gender and age range in census > >records prior to 1850 were listed in the household which > >they lived in. > >There is a very interesting article > >UNRAVELLING THE 1850 & 1860 SLAVE SCHEDULES-By Spencer McCall > >http://www.webarchaeology.com/Html/slavschd.htm > >Ancestry Census Images Online (US) > >http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/usfedcen/main.htm > >U.S. Federal Census Indexes > >http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/ais/main.htm > >U.S. Federal Census Indexes - List of Databases > >http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/ais/censuslist.htm > >Hope this helps > >MarieB > > > ==== SOUTHERN-PLANTATIONS Mailing List ==== > Search All Message for Information on Southern Plantations and Families: > http://searches/rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch/pl. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Thanks, I'll read the article. I'm a newbee. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Beckman <rmbeck@bellsouth.net> To: <SOUTHERN-PLANTATIONS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [Southern-Plantations] SLAVE SCHEDULES - NORTH CAROLINA, Craven, Warren, ... > At 09:39 PM 8/31/02 -0400, you wrote: > > >Exactly what do you go to on ancestry.com to get slave schedules? > > If you are subscribed to the US Census Images online > The Slave Schedules for 1850 & 1860 Census are > available once you have selected State and County > You will have the option of Townships/Districts or > Slave Schedules if there is one available. > > > The Slaves gender and age range in census > records prior to 1850 were listed in the household which > they lived in. > > There is a very interesting article > UNRAVELLING THE 1850 & 1860 SLAVE SCHEDULES-By Spencer McCall > http://www.webarchaeology.com/Html/slavschd.htm > > > Ancestry Census Images Online (US) > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/usfedcen/main.htm > > U.S. Federal Census Indexes > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/ais/main.htm > > U.S. Federal Census Indexes - List of Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/census/ais/censuslist.htm > > Hope this helps > --MarieB > > > > ==== SOUTHERN-PLANTATIONS Mailing List ==== > Search All Message for Information on Southern Plantations and Families: > http://searches/rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch/pl. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Again, The gateways are still not working; so here is the link to the Russell Co. VA Slave Schedule which I posted to our board. Ramona Russell County, Virginia 1860 Census, Slave Schedule URL: http://rhobard.com/census/russell/slaves.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BALL, ROBERTSON Classification: Will Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/FR.2ADI/109 Message Board Post: (From "Early Settlers of Lee County, Virginia and Adjacent Counties, Volume II" by Hattie Muncy Bates, Copyright 1977, pages 711-12) In the name of God Amen. I, John Ball of Lee County and State of Virginia being sick and weak in Body but of sound mind and disposing memory for which I thank God and calling to mind the uncertainty of human life and being desirous to dispose of all such worldly Estate as it hath pleased God to bless me with I do hereby make my last will and testament in manner and form following that is to say--firstly, I desire that all the perishable party of my Estate except what is herein after particularly mentioned be immediately sold after my decease and out of the monies arising therefrom all my just Debts and funeral expenses be paid the surplus money to be equally Divided among my children. Secondly, I give to my wife Polly Ball my two work Horses and my farming tools her choice of one mare and colt likewise her choice of five cows and their calves. My House and plantation Household and kitchen furniture all my hogs also my negro fellow named Tom and a Negroe girl that I have contracted for with William Robertson if said Robertson complies with his contract, and the steers now belonging to me to be sold at private sale to pay said William Robertson if he complies with his bargain, also I give to my wife the crop that is now growing on my plantation for the use of the stock and children also my sheep for and during her widowhood and in case of her death or marriage then all my land and what property remains that I have willed to her to be sold and the money arising therefrom to be equally divided among my children and to be enjoyed by them forever. Also one bed and furniture I do allow for my wife she to take her choice of the beds whether she marries ! or stays single. And lastly, I do hereby constitute and appoint my friends Henry Yeary and Moses Ball Executors of this my last will and testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal this 17th Day of September 1809. John Ball (Seal) Signed sealed published and Declared as and for the last will and Testament of the above named John Ball in presence of us George Ball William Yeary Samuel Lock Wm. Briance (Recorded in Book 1, Page 27) At a Court held for Lee County the 28th day of November 1809. Present: Joshua Ewing, William Neill, Benjamin Sharp, John McKinney and John Filkerson, Gentlemen. Page 153-- The last will and Testament of John Ball, deceased, was produced in Court and proven by the oaths of William Yeary and William Briance and ordered to be recorded and thereupon the said will was sworn to by Henry Yeary and Moses Ball the executors therein named and the said Henry Yeary and Moses Ball together with Jacob Crabtree, Job Crabtree and William Briance their securities entered into bond in the sum of ten thousand dollars with condition for the true and faithful administration of the said decedent's estate. At a Court held for Lee County the 28th day of November 1809. Present: Joshua Ewing, William Neill, Benjamin Sharp, John McKinny and John Fulkerson, Gent. ORDER BOOK, PAGE 153-- Ordered that David Chadwell Sen., Joshua Ewing, Oliver Hughes and Jacob Crabtree be appointed to appraise the personal estate and slaves, if any, of John Ball, deceased, after being first duly sworn before a justice of the peace for that purpose and return an inventory thereof to the court. A second appraisal of John Ball's estate was made in 1815 after the marriage of his widow, Mary Ball, to William Carmack in late 1814 or early 1815. Ordered that William Huston, David Chadwell Senior, Samuel Ewing, Jonathan Thompson and John Taylor or any three of them being first sworn before a justice of the peace for that purpose do truly and justly appraise in current money the personal estate of John Ball deceased and return the appraisement under their hands to the court. (OBK 2-128) 26th September 1815 An inventory and appraisement of the estate of John Ball, deceased, was produced in Court by the executors of the said John Ball, deceased, and ordered to be recorded. (OBK 2-128) On the motion of George Ball, Samuel Lock and Elizabeth his wife who was Elizabeth Ball, John Ball, Polly Ball, William Gray and Keziah his wife who was Keziah Ball, and Susanna Ball, William Ball, Jesse Ball, Peggy Ball, Robert Ball and Martha Ball infants under the age of twenty one years, heirs of John Ball, deceased, by Henry Yeary and Moses Ball, Executors of the last will and Testament of John Ball deceased and William Carmack and Mary his wife late the wife of the said John Ball deceased it is ordered that Peter Fulkerson, Joshua Ewing and Samuel Ewing or any three of them do lay off and assign to the said Mary Carmack late widow of the said John Ball deceased her dower in the lands of her late husband John Ball deceased in this county and make report to the court.