The age of the classes we visited were from possibly 7 yrs of age up to 15 yr olds, maybe older. The boys that Tanya told to sit down and shut up were some of the older boys. I don't remember if the teacher was in the room at that time or not. Tanya was a college age girl, maybe 20 years old. Our interpreters were hired from the country we were in. Tanya and several others in Russia, then when I went to the Ukraine, we had college kids from the Udraine. I think, but I'm not sure, that the only requirement was that they spoke English. The kids we hired were really sweet kids, trying so hard to please us. One day we had gone to the Science Museum at the Naval Academy, then we were going to do something else, so we stopped at a fast food place to eat. I told Tanya to order whatever she wanted and I would pay for it. She just got the hamburger and something to drink. I ddin't think she would have extra money of her own. She lived with her grandmother, her parents were scientists but they lived somewhere else. You mentioned the food. In the Ukraine, when we went to one school, the principal told us they fixed a tea for us. At that time, there was just two of us from our team (a girl about 18 and me) and the missionary's 10 year old daughter. The man on our team had been detained, bringing a bus load of our luggage from Kiev because of the fog. I thought of a tea as having coffee or tea with some cookies or small cakes. NO WAY. They had prepared a meal. Each teacher had brought a dish, they had used their best tableware. Like you said, you knew they couldn't afford all of this but they did it for the "American" that came to their school. I made sure I tasted each dish. The girls only got what looked good. I told them, these ladies are poor, and they're honoring us with this food. Then, I was caught off guard. The principal wanted to know how much I made. I didn't want to tell. I asked my interpreter (can't remember her name) if I should say. She said they want to know but it was up to me. Finally, I told them. Then, they wanted to know what my expenses were and how I could afford this trip. When I started telling them what my monthly expenses were, then they realized that I wasn't that rich American after all. We never knew what was coming next. <g> Because of being fogged in the whole week we were in the Ukraine, we had to take a train ride back to Kiev. We were told that was one thing our sponsor hadn't wanted for anyone to do because of the Mafia so prevalent over there. They added a car on the end of the train for us, and at one time during the night, we were side tracked for over an hour. I said the Mafia missed a good chance to rob that car load of "rich" Americans. Emma > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:33:32 -0800 > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > Emma, > > That had to be a very interesting time!! I have never had any desire to > travel over-seas. My sister-in-law in N.C. & her friend from church had > planned to go to all the countries in the Bible & this was right before we > started to have all our problems over there. As it turned out, the travel > agency that they had booked their trip through..they canceled their > reservations at the last minute because of all that was transpiring over > there. I know that Bonnie & Mary were disappointed; however, after they > realized all the problems over there, I think they were glad that they > didn't go through on their trip. > > You were lucky that you had an interpreter like Tanya to go with you. > Approximately how 'old' were these boys that got smart-mouthed? Just was > curious as to what age you were visiting when you went to the classes, > that's all. > > My husband & I stayed on an island off of South American (1 of the A-B-C > Islands) & those cab drivers there could cause a person to drink & I don't > drink!! They too would drive up over curbs & on sidewalks. People over > there thought nothing of parking on sidewalks. We had one guy who was blind > in one eye & he had to lean his head out of the window so that he could see > with his good eye? > > Looking forward to hearing about your trip coming home. > > ~J > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roses" <[email protected]> > To: "southern-chat" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:00 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > > > I went with a group called "Affect Destiny" with the Assemblies of God > denomination. I had already been supporting them, sending an offering in > each month, then I saw the notice in the church paper how to go on one of > the trips. I went in October 1993, this was after my husband died. I had > some extra money and I just knew I HAD to go. I sent in a request for an > application but you had to have 3 references to tell about you. The people > I asked, for one reason or another, had not sent in their reference > (vacations, etc). But I got a phone call that if I could be ready to go by > Oct 15, there was a group from the northwest going and I could go with them. > It seemed like everything I needed, it happened. I was scared and yet > excited. > > We flew from Seattle to Anchorage, then boarded a Russian plane for > Khavorosk (sp) Russia. As I mentioned earlier, our flight plans had changed > at the last minute so our guide had to frantically find a hotel for 30 > people at the last minute. It would have been condemned on any of our skid > rows. The covers were damp, the bathroom down the hall was a disgrace. The > guide apologized but to find somewhere we could go, he said that was all he > could find. The next day we flew to Vladivostok where our mission would > take place. We went in groups of 4 to the different schools in the town and > gave out booklets of the life of Jesus, taken from the Bible. There was 3 > from the team with an interpreter. Since I was the oldest in our group > (this was 20 years ago) they would bring a chair for me to sit in in the > classroom. I tried to refuse but my interpreter said they were honoring me > as an older person and i should sit. I got an education in the manners > there. One class, some older boys were being smart-mouthed, Tanya (our > interpreter going to college) told them to sit down and shut up. They did > too. We ate lunch at the school with the kids. They always had a type of > soup, lots of times borsch, and a lot of pork. I wouldln't say it was > always my favorite food but it was eatable. They always had hot tea > (lukewarm tea) served in glasses. The kids were typical school kids, I > loved them. We took pictures of each class we were in and they all wanted > to be in the picture. > > The guide had arranged for taxis to come take us to the school (we were > scattered throughout the city), then wait and take us back to the hotel. > One time, he didn't wait and we had to wait for him to come pick us up. We > were supposed to be back at the hotel around a certain time and he drove > like a fox turned loose to get us back there. Of course by then it was rush > hour traffic. Would you believe he went up on the sidewalk to drive around > a bunch of cars, and I don't mean going slowly either. No seat belts. > Another time the driver didn't wait but didn't come back to pick us up. > Tanya and the secretary of the school talked a bit, then we ended up walking > a block over to the main highway and they started hitchhiking. We pooled > our money to pay the driver. When a man stopped, Tanya negotiated for him > to take us to the hotel, paid him the money and we got in. I told her my > kids wouldn't believe their mother was hitchhiking in Russia. She wanted to > know if I was scared, I said not as long as I was with her. I guess that's > not unusual to do. One taxi driver we had several times and he would talk > to us (Tanya interpreting). He had fought in the Great War, what he called > WW II. Very friendly. > > The schools were large, not much of a playground though. They had two > sessions to accommodate all the kids in that area. The principal's took > pride in their schools. > > I'll continue later about coming home. > > Emma > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:29:11 -0600 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > > > What a wonderful way to travel-on missions trips! I would love to hear > > about the people you met. Did you help in building a church or teaching, > > just tell us more details. > > Kay > > > > > > > > In a message dated 01/12/10 04:28:13 Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > Yes, I went on Missions trips both times. First I went to Vladivostok > > Russia (just above Korea and across the sea from Japan), flying from > > Anchorage. But our flight changed coming home and instead of coming back > > to Anchorage, we flew to Moscow for overnight, then to New York then back > > to Seattle then Portland. I flew around the top of the world, literally. > > > > A year later, I went to Donetsk Ukraine, via Frankfurt Germany and Kiev > > Ukraine, both ways. Both trips for 10 days each. And, this was a gal that > > never wanted to leave the United States. > > > > Emma > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > From: [email protected] > > > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:13:25 +0000 > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > > > > > Miss Emma you've been to Russia? > > > Linda,wish I could go > > > ------Original Message------ > > > From: Roses > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > To: southern-chat > > > ReplyTo: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > > Sent: Jan 11, 2010 10:59 PM > > > > > > > > > In Unkraine, the toilets are at the end of each car too. There are > > > little cubicles all along the side with one long aisle. There were two > > > sets of bunk beds in each cubicle with just room to walk between them. > > > Those bunks were 'hard' too. > > > > > > Emma > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > > > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:38:14 -0800 > > > > Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > > > > > > > We visited Salzburg, Austria. Saw Mozart's home. His pianoforte and > > > > pages of music he had written were on display. > > > > Saw the locations used in "The Sound of Music". > > > > We went on to Zurich , Switzerland, spent one day going through the > > > > shops and candy stores. Then on to Lucerne, Switzerland. Standing by > > > > the lake, seeing the quiet water like a glass table and smelling the > > > > chocolate from the eateries, made one feel that all must be right with > > > > the world. The people were so nice. > > > > The South of France is really beautiful, no wonder so many rich folks > > > > go there to live. One can see the many places from the train window. > > > > The French trains go fast! The toilets at the end of each car have a > > > > sign on the wall in five languages "Don't flush the commode unless the > > > > train is moving." > > > > > > > > More later, > > > > Belle > > > > Belle > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/

Emma, That's interesting that you would be working at such a diverse age. Do you suppose the children over in Russia & all the other countries are educated in one big room...like they did here many years ago? Were these children solely there for religious a education because that was what you were there for? Or was this actually a school? You are very wise that you recognized that Tanya probably didn't have that much extra money. And as far as the "tea" goes, I can only imagine that it was for your benefit (all the Americans is what I mean). I'm sure you are right about why they did what they did for you. I'm sure if we had company from another company, we would want to treat them as well as we could too. Regarding asking about your salary, I'm sure that had to be a very awkward moment. If I were to be put in that spot, I would find it hard to discuss this with others. I have never been good about discussing this sort of thing with others. I'm glad, however, that they got it straight that all Americans are not rich. Glad that you were able to travel safely on that train. I guess there probably are many people are desperate to make money over there. Just never thought of those people as being part of the Mafia. ~J in AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roses" <[email protected]> To: "southern-chat" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. The age of the classes we visited were from possibly 7 yrs of age up to 15 yr olds, maybe older. The boys that Tanya told to sit down and shut up were some of the older boys. I don't remember if the teacher was in the room at that time or not. Tanya was a college age girl, maybe 20 years old. Our interpreters were hired from the country we were in. Tanya and several others in Russia, then when I went to the Ukraine, we had college kids from the Udraine. I think, but I'm not sure, that the only requirement was that they spoke English. The kids we hired were really sweet kids, trying so hard to please us. One day we had gone to the Science Museum at the Naval Academy, then we were going to do something else, so we stopped at a fast food place to eat. I told Tanya to order whatever she wanted and I would pay for it. She just got the hamburger and something to drink. I ddin't think she would have extra money of her own. She lived with her grandmother, her parents were scientists but they lived somewhere else. You mentioned the food. In the Ukraine, when we went to one school, the principal told us they fixed a tea for us. At that time, there was just two of us from our team (a girl about 18 and me) and the missionary's 10 year old daughter. The man on our team had been detained, bringing a bus load of our luggage from Kiev because of the fog. I thought of a tea as having coffee or tea with some cookies or small cakes. NO WAY. They had prepared a meal. Each teacher had brought a dish, they had used their best tableware. Like you said, you knew they couldn't afford all of this but they did it for the "American" that came to their school. I made sure I tasted each dish. The girls only got what looked good. I told them, these ladies are poor, and they're honoring us with this food. Then, I was caught off guard. The principal wanted to know how much I made. I didn't want to tell. I asked my interpreter (can't remember her name) if I should say. She said they want to know but it was up to me. Finally, I told them. Then, they wanted to know what my expenses were and how I could afford this trip. When I started telling them what my monthly expenses were, then they realized that I wasn't that rich American after all. We never knew what was coming next. <g> Because of being fogged in the whole week we were in the Ukraine, we had to take a train ride back to Kiev. We were told that was one thing our sponsor hadn't wanted for anyone to do because of the Mafia so prevalent over there. They added a car on the end of the train for us, and at one time during the night, we were side tracked for over an hour. I said the Mafia missed a good chance to rob that car load of "rich" Americans. Emma > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:33:32 -0800 > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > Emma, > > That had to be a very interesting time!! I have never had any desire to > travel over-seas. My sister-in-law in N.C. & her friend from church had > planned to go to all the countries in the Bible & this was right before we > started to have all our problems over there. As it turned out, the travel > agency that they had booked their trip through..they canceled their > reservations at the last minute because of all that was transpiring over > there. I know that Bonnie & Mary were disappointed; however, after they > realized all the problems over there, I think they were glad that they > didn't go through on their trip. > > You were lucky that you had an interpreter like Tanya to go with you. > Approximately how 'old' were these boys that got smart-mouthed? Just was > curious as to what age you were visiting when you went to the classes, > that's all. > > My husband & I stayed on an island off of South American (1 of the A-B-C > Islands) & those cab drivers there could cause a person to drink & I don't > drink!! They too would drive up over curbs & on sidewalks. People over > there thought nothing of parking on sidewalks. We had one guy who was > blind > in one eye & he had to lean his head out of the window so that he could > see > with his good eye? > > Looking forward to hearing about your trip coming home. > > ~J > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roses" <[email protected]> > To: "southern-chat" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 8:00 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > > > I went with a group called "Affect Destiny" with the Assemblies of God > denomination. I had already been supporting them, sending an offering in > each month, then I saw the notice in the church paper how to go on one of > the trips. I went in October 1993, this was after my husband died. I had > some extra money and I just knew I HAD to go. I sent in a request for an > application but you had to have 3 references to tell about you. The people > I asked, for one reason or another, had not sent in their reference > (vacations, etc). But I got a phone call that if I could be ready to go by > Oct 15, there was a group from the northwest going and I could go with > them. > It seemed like everything I needed, it happened. I was scared and yet > excited. > > We flew from Seattle to Anchorage, then boarded a Russian plane for > Khavorosk (sp) Russia. As I mentioned earlier, our flight plans had > changed > at the last minute so our guide had to frantically find a hotel for 30 > people at the last minute. It would have been condemned on any of our skid > rows. The covers were damp, the bathroom down the hall was a disgrace. The > guide apologized but to find somewhere we could go, he said that was all > he > could find. The next day we flew to Vladivostok where our mission would > take place. We went in groups of 4 to the different schools in the town > and > gave out booklets of the life of Jesus, taken from the Bible. There was 3 > from the team with an interpreter. Since I was the oldest in our group > (this was 20 years ago) they would bring a chair for me to sit in in the > classroom. I tried to refuse but my interpreter said they were honoring me > as an older person and i should sit. I got an education in the manners > there. One class, some older boys were being smart-mouthed, Tanya (our > interpreter going to college) told them to sit down and shut up. They did > too. We ate lunch at the school with the kids. They always had a type of > soup, lots of times borsch, and a lot of pork. I wouldln't say it was > always my favorite food but it was eatable. They always had hot tea > (lukewarm tea) served in glasses. The kids were typical school kids, I > loved them. We took pictures of each class we were in and they all wanted > to be in the picture. > > The guide had arranged for taxis to come take us to the school (we were > scattered throughout the city), then wait and take us back to the hotel. > One time, he didn't wait and we had to wait for him to come pick us up. We > were supposed to be back at the hotel around a certain time and he drove > like a fox turned loose to get us back there. Of course by then it was > rush > hour traffic. Would you believe he went up on the sidewalk to drive around > a bunch of cars, and I don't mean going slowly either. No seat belts. > Another time the driver didn't wait but didn't come back to pick us up. > Tanya and the secretary of the school talked a bit, then we ended up > walking > a block over to the main highway and they started hitchhiking. We pooled > our money to pay the driver. When a man stopped, Tanya negotiated for him > to take us to the hotel, paid him the money and we got in. I told her my > kids wouldn't believe their mother was hitchhiking in Russia. She wanted > to > know if I was scared, I said not as long as I was with her. I guess that's > not unusual to do. One taxi driver we had several times and he would talk > to us (Tanya interpreting). He had fought in the Great War, what he called > WW II. Very friendly. > > The schools were large, not much of a playground though. They had two > sessions to accommodate all the kids in that area. The principal's took > pride in their schools. > > I'll continue later about coming home. > > Emma > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:29:11 -0600 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > > > What a wonderful way to travel-on missions trips! I would love to hear > > about the people you met. Did you help in building a church or teaching, > > just tell us more details. > > Kay > > > > > > > > In a message dated 01/12/10 04:28:13 Central Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > Yes, I went on Missions trips both times. First I went to Vladivostok > > Russia (just above Korea and across the sea from Japan), flying from > > Anchorage. But our flight changed coming home and instead of coming back > > to Anchorage, we flew to Moscow for overnight, then to New York then > > back > > to Seattle then Portland. I flew around the top of the world, literally. > > > > A year later, I went to Donetsk Ukraine, via Frankfurt Germany and Kiev > > Ukraine, both ways. Both trips for 10 days each. And, this was a gal > > that > > never wanted to leave the United States. > > > > Emma > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > From: [email protected] > > > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:13:25 +0000 > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > > > > > Miss Emma you've been to Russia? > > > Linda,wish I could go > > > ------Original Message------ > > > From: Roses > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > To: southern-chat > > > ReplyTo: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > > Sent: Jan 11, 2010 10:59 PM > > > > > > > > > In Unkraine, the toilets are at the end of each car too. There are > > > little cubicles all along the side with one long aisle. There were two > > > sets of bunk beds in each cubicle with just room to walk between them. > > > Those bunks were 'hard' too. > > > > > > Emma > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > > > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:38:14 -0800 > > > > Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Travels.. > > > > > > > > We visited Salzburg, Austria. Saw Mozart's home. His pianoforte and > > > > pages of music he had written were on display. > > > > Saw the locations used in "The Sound of Music". > > > > We went on to Zurich , Switzerland, spent one day going through the > > > > shops and candy stores. Then on to Lucerne, Switzerland. Standing by > > > > the lake, seeing the quiet water like a glass table and smelling the > > > > chocolate from the eateries, made one feel that all must be right > > > > with > > > > the world. The people were so nice. > > > > The South of France is really beautiful, no wonder so many rich > > > > folks > > > > go there to live. One can see the many places from the train window. > > > > The French trains go fast! The toilets at the end of each car have a > > > > sign on the wall in five languages "Don't flush the commode unless > > > > the > > > > train is moving." > > > > > > > > More later, > > > > Belle > > > > Belle > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > > without > > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message