To everyone, 2 and 2 still make 4 to an honest person or honest group. They seem to be scarce these days. I doubt that anyone will get my vote this time. I dislike the way things are being done and I have very strong feelings about the capability of any of the candidates to bring back the respect and prestige to the Oval Office that it deserves. Belle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Hall" <lola5341@setel.com> To: <southern-chat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:46 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Voting today > I have begun to believe that none of them are run honest any more after the > last election.... > > I know that 2 and 2 MAKE 4.. > IN THE LAST ELECTION NOTHING MADE ANY SENSE.. > I don`t believe out votes count any more,, when the other guy won by > 2hundred and some votes but didnt go in.. > maby 2 n 2 dont make 4 > Carol > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stella Roper" <busmar1852@webtv.net> > To: <Southern-Chat@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 6:51 PM > Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Voting today > > > > Well....did you girls who live in KY go see Bill or Hillary this week? > > This is the most ridiculous run election I ever witnesed in my > > lifetime. Why don't they have a voting day...and let every state vote > > and elect a president. Save Billions of dollars too. Stella > > P.S. Emma...Oregon is really > > turning out, according to the exit polls.And they said most had mailed > > them in early. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTHERN-CHAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTHERN-CHAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well....did you girls who live in KY go see Bill or Hillary this week? This is the most ridiculous run election I ever witnesed in my lifetime. Why don't they have a voting day...and let every state vote and elect a president. Save Billions of dollars too. Stella P.S. Emma...Oregon is really turning out, according to the exit polls.And they said most had mailed them in early.

I mailed my ballot on Wednesday. After Thursday they said not to mail them, they wouldn't get to the election bureau in time. I heard this morning that a lot of people were taking their ballots in to drop off boxes in the rain. I used to vote early as soon as I got my ballot. But a lot of the stuff would come out about the candidates AFTER I mailed my ballot so now I wait until the last week. When Obama was here last weekend they said there was 70,000 out to hear him. Not me, I stayed home where it was nice and comfortable. Emma ----- Original Message ----- From: Stella Roper<mailto:busmar1852@webtv.net> To: Southern-Chat@rootsweb.com<mailto:Southern-Chat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 3:51 PM Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Voting today Well....did you girls who live in KY go see Bill or Hillary this week? This is the most ridiculous run election I ever witnesed in my lifetime. Why don't they have a voting day...and let every state vote and elect a president. Save Billions of dollars too. Stella P.S. Emma...Oregon is really turning out, according to the exit polls.And they said most had mailed them in early.

Many, many years ago, I would pack the picnic basket with sandwichs, fruit, cookies, drinks, erc. and take my kids and sometimes aneighbor and her kids and head for the nearest park or the beach when we lived in California. In later years, I haven't been able to go and the parks and beachs have become too dangerously populated to even attempt a pleasant picnic. I go back to the time when we had "All Day Singing and "Dinner on the Ground" . A sort of picnic affair. People would gather at a small country church, all bring their tablecloths and food items. They would spread them out on the lawns and under the trees. All atteding were welcome to help themseles to anything that was offered. There was always plenty of items offered. Fried chicken, sliced ham, potato salads, cole slaw, pickles,breads, cookies, etc. Always gallons of tea and lemonade. I loved to wander through the area and pick out what appealed to me. No one ever went home hungry. It was agood time for all to catch up on all the news of the area since there were no phones.Births, deaths, marriages, etc and a good time for the young ones to meet and get aquainted. One didn't have to be concerned about the small children walking aroundamong the area. Part of the 'good old days'. Belle ----- Original Message ----- From: "ETM" <ETMaddox@verizon.net> To: <MEMORY-LANE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [ML] THE SUBJECT IS Picnics > > The subject is > > Picnics > > > > > > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mbousman1/memory.htm > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MEMORY-LANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I went through that area once. A pretty place. I was there in the last of April. Why did you choose NC? Emma ----- Original Message ----- From: Belle Shepherd<mailto:belleshep@cox.net> To: KYHeritageFolklore@yahoogroups.com<mailto:KYHeritageFolklore@yahoogroups.com> ; homespun@rootsweb.com<mailto:homespun@rootsweb.com> ; southern-chat@rootsweb.com<mailto:southern-chat@rootsweb.com> ; rememberingwhen@yahoogroups.com<mailto:rememberingwhen@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Gay marriages.. Linda, Emma, there is no absolutely perfect place to live, though some are better than others.Over the years, I have lived in several different places. If I still had a choice, I think I would choose North Carolina west of Ashville. Belle

Hello, I have read about the law, I don't like it either but one good thing is that they can't have kids to be neglested and abused , by their union. Not the way some so called legal unions with four or more wives and dozens of offspring to be abused, neglected and no knowledge of who might be their parent.This is the kind of thing that makes me ill. The most disgusting thing a person can do. I had a distant cousin, brother to my great-grandfather that joined the group. His son went to Colorado, ended upp with four wives and 27 children. Many of these went to Arizona. Two of his wives were sisters but there is no mention of their parents in the LDS Genealogy records. I met some of the descendants living in Arizona back in the late 60's. Nice people but some didn't seem to be playing with a full deck. Perhaps I will be asked to refrain from posting on these lists, so it goes. Linda, Emma, there is no absolutely perfect place to live, though some are better than others.Over the years, I have lived in several different places. If I still had a choice, I think I would choose North Carolina west of Ashville. Regards, Belle

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 Emma ,   Maybe I was a bit hasty on my moving idea .I'm not to happy with the assisted suicide law either ,hmm . What should I do ,stay put and see what happens ?What's going on in Canada these days abt. such things ,anyone know ?Any ideas ? Linda from sodom next to gamorra ----- Original Message ---- From: Peace Roses <Roses4831@msn.com> To: southern-chat@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:24:59 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] News Alert: California Supreme Court OverturnsGay Marriage Ban I know, it's coming.  We already have the assisted suicide law.  Does that tell you a little about Oregon? Emma   ----- Original Message -----   From: Linda Rogers<mailto:lindahazenrogers@yahoo.com>   To: southern-chat@rootsweb.com<mailto:southern-chat@rootsweb.com>   Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:38 PM   Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] News Alert: California Supreme Court OverturnsGay Marriage Ban   Mary ,   What can I say ?CA. #2? What were they thinking ?   Linda , Oregon is just up the road a piece move over Emma   ----- Original Message ----   From: Mary R Mungo <MRMungo@Comporium.net<mailto:MRMungo@Comporium.net>>   To: southern-chat@rootsweb.com<mailto:southern-chat@rootsweb.com>   Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:53:38 AM   Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] News Alert: California Supreme Court Overturns Gay Marriage Ban   > California Supreme Court Overturns Gay Marriage Ban   >   > The ruling paves the way for California to become the second   > state where gay men and lesbians can marry.   >   > Read More:   > http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na<http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na>   > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTHERN-CHAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I know, it's coming. We already have the assisted suicide law. Does that tell you a little about Oregon? Emma ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Rogers<mailto:lindahazenrogers@yahoo.com> To: southern-chat@rootsweb.com<mailto:southern-chat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] News Alert: California Supreme Court OverturnsGay Marriage Ban Mary , What can I say ?CA. #2? What were they thinking ? Linda , Oregon is just up the road a piece move over Emma ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary R Mungo <MRMungo@Comporium.net<mailto:MRMungo@Comporium.net>> To: southern-chat@rootsweb.com<mailto:southern-chat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:53:38 AM Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] News Alert: California Supreme Court Overturns Gay Marriage Ban > California Supreme Court Overturns Gay Marriage Ban > > The ruling paves the way for California to become the second > state where gay men and lesbians can marry. > > Read More: > http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na<http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na> >

 Mary ,            What can I say ?CA. #2? What we're they thinking ? Linda , Oregon is just up the road a piece move over Emma ----- Original Message ---- From: Mary R Mungo <MRMungo@Comporium.net> To: southern-chat@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:53:38 AM Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] News Alert: California Supreme Court Overturns Gay Marriage Ban ----- Original Message ----- > Breaking News Alert > The New York Times > Thursday, May 15, 2008 -- 1:15 PM ET > ----- > > California Supreme Court Overturns Gay Marriage Ban > > The ruling paves the way for California to become the second > state where gay men and lesbians can marry. > > Read More: > http://www.nytimes.com/?emc=na > > ----- > Visit our mobile site for the latest news: > http://m.nytimes.com > ----- > > About This E-Mail > You received this message because you are signed up to receive Breaking > News > Alerts from NYTimes.com. > > To unsubscribe, change your e-mail address or to sign up for daily > headlines > or other newsletters, go to: > http://www.nytimes.com/email > > NYTimes.com > 620 Eighth Ave. > New York, NY 10018 > > Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company > > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 080515-1, 05/15/2008 > Tested on: 5/15/2008 2:50:02 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTHERN-CHAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

 Belle ,            I've heard the same thing abt. the red cross and salvation Army always being there to help .  Linda ,it's cooling off finally here ----- Original Message ---- From: Belle Shepherd <belleshep@cox.net> To: KYHeritageFolklore@yahoogroups.com; homespun@rootsweb.com; southern-chat@rootsweb.com; rememberingwhen@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 2:02:55 PM Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Fw: [ML] THE SUBJECT IS Relief organizations ----- Original Message ----- From: "Belle Shepherd" <belleshep@cox.net> To: <smkline526@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [ML] THE SUBJECT IS Relief organizations > I have a couple of  true stories about Relief help Organizations. My > neighbor in California was a Gray Lady. She told me that the Red Cross had a > 70 percent  Administrative >  cost, she drove a new station wagon belonging to the Red Cross. > My mother-in-law lost nearly everything she owned in the 1958 flood along > the Ohio River near Cincinnati.  She was given a voucher for furniture to be > picked from a used furniture store. She picked out a few needed things and > signed for them. Less than a month later, she received a stiff bill from the > furniture store. The Red Cros wouldn't honor the voucher. My brother-in-law > took everything back to the store and made other arrangements for her. The > amount of the bill would cover NEW things, not used. > The Red Cross will never get a dime of my money, I do give to the Salvation > Army , a couple of others when I can afford  to donate. > My brother was in San Francisco waiting for his train, in full naval > uniform, a Red Cross lady offered him coffe and a stale donut, the coffe was > almost cold, he said., but he took the cup. She said,"That will be $1.00, > please." He gave it to her and threw the coffee and donut in the nearest > trash can.  Before train time, he was 'given' hot fresh coffee and offered > free donuts by a Salvation Army aide. I think they walk through waiting > rooms looking for the uniformed men and women. > Belle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <smkline526@aol.com> > To: <bettyb23@san.rr.com>; <memory-lane@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:36 AM > Subject: Re: [ML] THE SUBJECT IS Relief organizations > > > > > > The officers in the Salvation Army make very good money.  While I was > > working in the Credit Bureau I made several reports on them.  They do > quite  well. > > Our neighbors across the street were officers and they had no money > worries > > that I could see.  I do have a story regarding the Salvation Army  but > won't > > discuss it on ML.  Sharon K. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > In a message dated 5/14/2008 12:34:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > bettyb23@san.rr.com writes: > > > > A big  factor for me was when I heard how much the top man at the > > Salvation Army  is paid. A few years ago, it was well under $20,000 and > > at that time, the  CEO of Goodwill was pulling in (if my memory doesn't > > fail me completely)  over a quarter million. Something is just plain > > wrong with that  picture. > > > > Betty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > > favorites at AOL Food. > > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > > > > > > > > > > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mbousman1/memory.htm > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MEMORY-LANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTHERN-CHAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

  When I was in PA . that was the first place my #1 daughter ( Lisa ) took me to eat she loves it there and was singing their praises . I liked it too ,I haven't heard of a "Cracker Barrel " here .       My Ma's day was pretty good too I recieved flowers from PA ,cards from all over,candy from my #3 son (John) and was taken out to eat ,nothin special . Went to church with "Little Worm" and family .Little Worm liked church her first time there .Her family moved home . Linda AKA Cuppycakes ----- Original Message ---- From: Peace Roses <Roses4831@msn.com> To: southern-chat@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:49:52 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] [HS] Mother's Day My niece in Memphis worked at a Cracker Barrel for a while.  I've heard the food is really good there. Enjoy your meal.  Mine was fancy but I bet yours will taste just as well. Emma   ----- Original Message -----   From: Mary R Mungo<mailto:MRMungo@Comporium.net>   To: southern-chat@rootsweb.com<mailto:southern-chat@rootsweb.com>   Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:41 PM   Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] [HS] Mother's Day   Well Emma... Sounds like you had a great time.  My meal wasn't as elaborate   as yours but I'll bet I enjoyed it as much as you did.  Course, I live out   in the country and there are not too many really nice places to go to eat.   We try to save money and everybody brought 'stuff' to help out with the   price.  My youngest son and his wife are coming tomorrow and are taking me   to Cracker Barrel... I really like the food there.   MaryClyde ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTHERN-CHAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ladonna , You go Girl !!! I like your idea it would be perfect for a ole Elvis fan !!!!!! Linda the non crafty one on the list ----- Original Message ---- From: LaDonna <mcglocklin@webtv.net> To: SOUTHERN-CHAT-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 7:10:32 PM Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Elvis Listers, I need a little help, I I found five yards of craft material and each yard is a bib apron with big ole pic of elvis black & white in his younger days on a background of  red not the orangey red but the blue red.  I was thinking of folding the bib over and cutting bottom to match top then fill in corners to square up by placing one in each corner and one in center then fill in with nine patches of black and white then black satin lining for one of a kind quilt. Anyone with wild imagination I'm waiting to hear your thoughts. After squaring up the five squares would  be about 28" X 32" LaDonna ================== JEREMIAH 33:3 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTHERN-CHAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

  The Price of Children The government recently calculated the cost of raising a child from birth to 18 and came up with $160,140 for a middle income family. Talk about sticker shock! That doesn't even touch college tuition. But $160, 140 isn't so bad if you break it down. It translates into: * $8,896.66 a year, * $741.38 a month, or * $171.08 a week. * That's a mere $24.24 a day! * Just over a dollar an hour.   Still, you might think the best financial advice is don't have children if you want to be 'rich.' Actually, it is just the opposite. What do you get for your $160,140? * Naming rights. First, middle, and last! * Glimpses of God every day.   * Giggles under the covers every night. * More love than your heart can hold. * Butterfly kisses and Velcro hugs. * Endless wonder over rocks, ants, clouds, and warm cookies. * A hand to hold, usually covered with jelly or chocolate. * A partner for blowing bubbles, flying kites * Someone to laugh yourself silly with, no matter what the boss said or how your stocks performed that day.   For $160,140, you never have to grow up. You get to: * finger-paint, * carve pumpkins, * play hide-and-seek, * catch lightning bugs, and * never stop believing in Santa Claus.   You have an excuse to: * keep reading the Adventures of Piglet and Pooh, * watching Saturday morning cartoons, * going to Disney movies, and * wishing on stars. * You get to frame rainbows, hearts, and flowers under refrigerator magnets and collect spray painted noodle wreaths for Christmas, hand prints set in clay for Mother's Day, and cards with backward letters for Father's Day. For $160,140, there is no greater bang for your buck. You get to be a hero just for: * retrieving a Frisbee off the garage roof, * taking the training wheels off a bike, * removing a splinter, * filling a wading pool, * coaxing a wad of gum out of bangs, and coaching a baseball team that never wins but always gets treated to ice cream regardless.   You get a front row seat to history to witness the: * first step, * first word, * first bra, * first date, and * first time behind the wheel. You get to be immortal. You get another branch added to your family tree, and if you're lucky, a long list of limbs in your obituary called grandchildren and great grandchildren. You get an education in psychology, nursing, criminal justice, communications, and human sexuality that no college can match. In the eyes of a child, you rank right up there under God. You have all the power to heal a boo-boo, scare away the monsters under the bed, patch a broken heart, police a slumber party, ground them forever, and love them without limits. So, one day they will, like you, love without counting the cost. That is quite a deal for the price!!!!!!! Love & enjoy your children & grandchildren!!!!!!!   ________________________________ Get Free (PRODUCT) RED™ Emoticons, Winks and Display Pics. Check it out! ________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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You know Belle, Sometimes strange things have happened to me... For instance, I was in a cemetery near where one of my ancestors lived and died and I was looking at the stones trying to find his. Well there was a very old tree about in the middle of the cemetery and a large limb broke off and fell among some stones, so I walked down there to see if it had damaged any of the stones... it didn't. But the stone right beside it was the one that I was looking for. That gave me goose bumps too!!! Strange... MaryClyde ----- Original Message ----- From: "Belle Shepherd" <belleshep@cox.net> To: <KYHeritageFolklore@yahoogroups.com>; <homespun@rootsweb.com>; <southern-chat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:19 PM Subject: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] Time travel.. > To all on the list, > > Since readingg the "Outlander" series a few years ago , and about the > character Claire and husband James Fraser, I have been curious as to the > possibility of one really being a 'time traveler.' Ther are several > periods in the past history of my ancestors that I would like to know more > about. > One is the time of the first known ancesror to come to America in the > 1600's. His name was John Haynie. He and wife came over, bringing 19 other > persons with them. He had paid passage for them to come from England to > 'settle the Colonies.' He received 'land grants' of 50 acres for each > person he had brought with him. He bought more land and had nearly 2000 > acres at his death. This was in Northumberland Co. Va. > > Another is during the reign of the French kings in the 1700's. On a visit > to the Versailles Palace near Paris with my neice, I felt a strange > familiarity with my surroundings as if I had been there before. My niece > and I had become separated from our tour group and were standing alone in > the great "HALL OF MIRRORS' ballroom. Someone or 'something' tapped me on > the shoulder and cold chills went down my spine. I was shaking and > couldn't speak for a few minutes. There was a strong odor of rancid > perfume and body odor. I can almost snell it now, just thinking about it. > > I sometimes have dreams about various places that are so real that I feel > I have really been there and a part of what was going on. > Belle > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTHERN-CHAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 080512-0, 05/12/2008 > Tested on: 5/12/2008 8:39:47 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > >

Gosh Belle and Joyce!!!! You've made me feel bad... I've been volunteering with the American Red Cross for over two years. Some volunteers are given the AFES [Armed Forces Emergency Services] pager for a week at a time. We get calls, in the middle of the night, from people who need to get in touch with their loved one who is in service when there is an emergency, sickness of an immediate family member, birth of their child, death of an immediate family member, etc... no matter where they are. We have one paid employee in our local office during the day... the others volunteer their time. If your son was talked to the way that you say, he should have reported that person the next day to the person in charge at the Red Cross office in the county where he resided. Was this your son? Or was this passed on from someone who had this 'very bad' experience? If this had happened through our local Red Cross chapter that person would no longer be a volunteer here and he would get an apology from the top brass. I don't know about the money... but, those people have to live too, therefore there is a salary involved. I know, most of them probably make too much, but they are on call day and night. When I went to California during the San Diego Fires, I dropped everything to go and do what I could for those poor people who, some of them, had lost everything that they had and THEY appreciated what little we did. We didn't feel like we were doing that much. Even though we worked 10 hours a day, feeding them and setting up cots and listening to them... and some of them really had touching stories to tell. There were several nights that we cried ourselves to sleep. There are good and bad people in everything! I'm sorry that you have a 'bad taste' in your mouth for the Red Cross, but I've seen some of what they do and I am proud to be a volunteer with the AMERICAN RED CROSS... MaryClyde ----- Original Message ----- From: "Belle Shepherd" <belleshep@cox.net> To: "Joyce Ragels" <jragels@comcast.net>; <KYHeritageFolklore@yahoogroups.com>; <homespun@rootsweb.com>; <southern-chat@rootsweb.com>; <REMEmberingwhen@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] [ML] THE SUBJECT IS Relief organizations > In October 1965 one son was on his Navy ship off the coast of Viet Nam.His > younger brother was in a terrible auto accident in Northen California, not > expected to live. I called the Red Cross to ask if they could get in touch > with the Navy brother. A very curt, nasty male voice said, "When he dies, > call us back and we'll see what we can do! and slammed down the phone > before > I could say another word. The brother slowly recovered from the accident. > When my boss told me they were going to deduct so much money from our > paychecks to donate to the Red Cross, I let him have "it" and gave my > notice, so did another gal in the office.I was planning to leave before > the > end of the year but this gave me a good opportunity to have my say on the > matter of donations, etc. > Belle > > Belle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joyce Ragels" <jragels@comcast.net> > To: "ETM" <ETMaddox@verizon.net> > Cc: <MEMORY-LANE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: [ML] THE SUBJECT IS Relief organizations > > >> Many are just big corporations that operate under different rules because > they are charities. When most of the money received goes for > administrative > and operational costs, there is just something wrong with that picture. > If > they can't give away the majority of what they receive, I don't consider > them a charity. Just for grins, try reading one of their financial > sheets. >> >> I have the most respect for the Salvation Army and always give to them. >> >> The Red Cross is not what it should be. When my husband first joined the > service, his pay got all messed up and he didn't get paid when he should. > He came was a dirt poor family so had almost no money with him when he > arrived. He went to the Red Cross, told them what happened, asked to > borrow > $20 until he got paid for toiletries. The not only told him no, but said > they couldn't help him get any either. He was not the only American > soldier > who got screwed by the Red Cross. He swore that for as long as he lived, > he > would never give them not one red cent, and he didn't. Because of his > experience, neither will I. >> >> J >> >> Let us be grateful to people who make us happy; they are the charming > gardeners who make our souls blossom. - Marcel Proust >> http://community.webshots.com/user/jragels >> >> >> > The subject is >> >> > Relief organizations >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mbousman1/memory.htm >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MEMORY-LANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTHERN-CHAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > avast! 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May Clyde, I called the Red Cross, wanting to get in touch with my older son who was on his ship off the coast of Viet Nam. I wanted him to know about his young brother' being in the accident.. I had allthe needed info, name, service number, ship, etc. He was the Captain's secretary so he wouldn't have been hard to find. Right, there are good and bad in every group of folks. Thanks for your response. Belle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary R Mungo" <MRMungo@Comporium.net> To: <southern-chat@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] [ML] THE SUBJECT IS Relief organizations > Gosh Belle and Joyce!!!! You've made me feel bad... I've been volunteering > with the American Red Cross for over two years. Some volunteers are given > the AFES [Armed Forces Emergency Services] pager for a week at a time. We > get calls, in the middle of the night, from people who need to get in touch > with their loved one who is in service when there is an emergency, sickness > of an immediate family member, birth of their child, death of an immediate > family member, etc... no matter where they are. We have one paid employee > in our local office during the day... the others volunteer their time. If > your son was talked to the way that you say, he should have reported that > person the next day to the person in charge at the Red Cross office in the > county where he resided. Was this your son? Or was this passed on from > someone who had this 'very bad' experience? If this had happened through > our local Red Cross chapter that person would no longer be a volunteer here > and he would get an apology from the top brass. I don't know about the > money... but, those people have to live too, therefore there is a salary > involved. I know, most of them probably make too much, but they are on call > day and night. When I went to California during the San Diego Fires, I > dropped everything to go and do what I could for those poor people who, some > of them, had lost everything that they had and THEY appreciated what little > we did. We didn't feel like we were doing that much. Even though we worked > 10 hours a day, feeding them and setting up cots and listening to them... > and some of them really had touching stories to tell. There were several > nights that we cried ourselves to sleep. There are good and bad people in > everything! I'm sorry that you have a 'bad taste' in your mouth for the Red > Cross, but I've seen some of what they do and I am proud to be a volunteer > with the AMERICAN RED CROSS... > MaryClyde > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Belle Shepherd" <belleshep@cox.net> > To: "Joyce Ragels" <jragels@comcast.net>; > <KYHeritageFolklore@yahoogroups.com>; <homespun@rootsweb.com>; > <southern-chat@rootsweb.com>; <REMEmberingwhen@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 5:31 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTHERN-CHAT] [ML] THE SUBJECT IS Relief organizations > > > > In October 1965 one son was on his Navy ship off the coast of Viet Nam.His > > younger brother was in a terrible auto accident in Northen California, not > > expected to live. I called the Red Cross to ask if they could get in touch > > with the Navy brother. A very curt, nasty male voice said, "When he dies, > > call us back and we'll see what we can do! and slammed down the phone > > before > > I could say another word. The brother slowly recovered from the accident. > > When my boss told me they were going to deduct so much money from our > > paychecks to donate to the Red Cross, I let him have "it" and gave my > > notice, so did another gal in the office.I was planning to leave before > > the > > end of the year but this gave me a good opportunity to have my say on the > > matter of donations, etc. > > Belle > > > > Belle > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joyce Ragels" <jragels@comcast.net> > > To: "ETM" <ETMaddox@verizon.net> > > Cc: <MEMORY-LANE@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:32 AM > > Subject: Re: [ML] THE SUBJECT IS Relief organizations > > > > > >> Many are just big corporations that operate under different rules because > > they are charities. When most of the money received goes for > > administrative > > and operational costs, there is just something wrong with that picture. > > If > > they can't give away the majority of what they receive, I don't consider > > them a charity. Just for grins, try reading one of their financial > > sheets. > >> > >> I have the most respect for the Salvation Army and always give to them. > >> > >> The Red Cross is not what it should be. When my husband first joined the > > service, his pay got all messed up and he didn't get paid when he should. > > He came was a dirt poor family so had almost no money with him when he > > arrived. He went to the Red Cross, told them what happened, asked to > > borrow > > $20 until he got paid for toiletries. The not only told him no, but said > > they couldn't help him get any either. He was not the only American > > soldier > > who got screwed by the Red Cross. He swore that for as long as he lived, > > he > > would never give them not one red cent, and he didn't. Because of his > > experience, neither will I. > >> > >> J > >> > >> Let us be grateful to people who make us happy; they are the charming > > gardeners who make our souls blossom. - Marcel Proust > >> http://community.webshots.com/user/jragels > >> > >> > >> > The subject is > >> > >> > Relief organizations > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mbousman1/memory.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MEMORY-LANE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTHERN-CHAT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > --- > > avast! 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