My first programming job was in 1964 for General Dynamics/Astronautics. About 15% of the programmers were women. Women were allowed in the computer room if they had a legitimate reason for being there. Generally no one was allowed in except the operators. The first core dumps I deciphered were in octal. Don't recall doing hexadecimal until the IBM 360 came out. And Sandi forgot to mention the joy of reading the holes in paper or mylar tape. I wrote my very first program in college & our keypunch machines had no printing & we had to do our own keypunching so you can imagine the fun. Had to run the cards through a lister to see what they were. If you put them in backwards by accident - tough cookies - go back to the back of the line! If they were OK then the next line to stand in was to run the cards through a compiler/assembler to produce an "object deck" - these were cards in a binary format of the compiled/assembled code. Then stand in another line to run your object deck through the computer to run the program & hopefully get some output. I'll never forget my first printed sheet of output. It was blank!!! What a hoot....lyn Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> wrote: > > Subject: > HOW FAR WE'VE GONE! - NON-GENEALOGY