These postings below were sent to me to see if I could help Evie. I was pretty sure that we've seen many ancestors of these surnames on our list before. She's not a member of our list, so if anyone sees any information below that they can expand on, you'll need to write to Evie directly at eviegen@msn.com . Many thanks, Linne Bowles Gravestock =========================================================== (snip) I just recieved a copy of my great grandmothers obit and it says she was born in Dallas Co. MO. The problem is her last name. Margaret L Amic(x) and of course either of these could be wrong, have never found her under these spellings. Here is what I have: Born 29 April 1867 Dallas Co. MO 1887 married Marshall M Rice of Claiborne Co. TN Was a member of the Baptist Church of Missouri Died 1947 in Clark Co. OH Don't know if they was married in TN or MO. Also there are many varriations on her maiden name, such as Amos, Amyx, Amick, Ames etc. I would guess the 1870 census would help, but I have not found free access to one online. Can anyone help? Thanks Evie ===================================================================== Match: Bowls Source: MODALLAS@rootsweb.com From: Gary Swift <gswift@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [MODALLAS] Need Help! Hi Evie, I don't have access to the 1870 census, but I looked for your Margaret Amic and Marshall M. Rice in the 1880 census on the LDS site: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/search_census.asp I didn't find a good march for her but I found him here, which you might have: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1880US_13158756&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=5 District 8, Claiborne, Tennessee James S. RICE Self M Male W 75 TN Farmer TN NC Nancy M. RICE Wife M Female W 36 TN Keeping House TN TN Mary A. RICE Dau S Female W 20 TN At Home TN TN Nancy J. RICE Dau S Female W 15 TN At Home TN TN Marshal M. RICE Son S Male W 13 TN Works On Farm TN TN Daniel P. RICE Son S Male W 6 TN TN TN Phebe RICE Dau S Female W 4 TN TN TN Rebecca RICE Dau S Female W 2 TN TN TN Wm. L. RICE Son S Male W 1M TN TN TN I did some searches for this family on WorldConnect, http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi According to this: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ax383&id=I0508 The parents are James Samuel Rice and Nancy Melvina Whitaker, his 2nd wife. The notes here say that they came to Webster Co., MO, (the county just south of Dallas) in 1868, and that two sons (from the first marriage) came to Dallas Co. where they died near Louisburg. (Harper Henry Rice married Eliza Jane Hurst, probably of the Hurst Mill family.) This site has a lot on the Rice family, with many notes. So, if your mystery Margaret was born in Dallas Co., perhaps her family and the Rices knew each other there. And some of them apparently went back to Claiborne Co., TN before 1880, where your Margaret and Marshal were married in 1887... I did a google.com search for "Marshall M. Rice" and got this hit: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/claiborne/vitals/marriages/marr01.txt It shows: CLAIBORNE COUNTY, TN - VITALS - Some Early Marriages Early Claiborne County, TN Marriages ... Marshall M Rice/Margaret Bowls 1887 Bk 5/228 (There are other many many other Rices here. So I figure that either 1) she was married to a Mr. Bowls (could be Bowles, etc.) before or 2) her mother remarried to a Mr. Bowls and Margaret took his name. This sometimes happened. I went back to the LDS 1880 census search engine and looked for Margaret Bowls. Got 73 hits, this one being the closest, she being born about 1867 in MO: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1880US_8448639&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=5 Round Grove, Marion, Missouri W. H. BOWLES Self M Male W 43 MO Farmer KY KY Zilla A. BOWLES Wife M Female W 39 MO House Keeping KY KY Edgar R. BOWLES Son S Male W 15 MO Works On Farm MO MO Maggie BOWLES Dau S Female W 13 MO Helps MaMO MO Benjamin T. BOWLES Son S Male W 11 MO Works On Farm MO MO However, according to this: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/u/s/David-Lee-Bush/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0160.html they are Warren H. Bowles and Zilla Ralls, and Maggie/Margaret seems to have married a Mr. Jarman(?), so this appears not be your Margaret. Perhaps somehow the 1880 census missed her, or the record was so hard to read and transcribe that the search isn't finding her as Margaret Amic and its soundex alternatives, and she married a Mr. Bowls/Bowles between 1880 and 1887. (I am unable to find some people in my own family tree that I know were alive in 1880. The census doesn't catch everone.) I hope this helps. --gary ============================================================= ===================================================================== Match: Bowls Source: MODALLAS@rootsweb.com From: "evelyn thompson" <eviegen@msn.com> Subject: Re: [MODALLAS] Need Help! Thank Gary; I will start researching this info today. I do have a census reading that says her parents were also born MO. But what you came up with is a possible reason i have not been able to traceher! I contacted a cousin in Ohio to get a copy of her death certificate, but of course it might nothave her surname if the person sumiting did not have the info! Evie
I think I have found your Margaret Amic. By searcning for "Margaret" in Dallas Co., MO I found the following family in the 1870 Census--Dallas Co --Grant Township--Buffalo PO, page 25, houehold 169: Armick, Simintha 34 TN Bowles, Jane 10 TN Armick, Nancy A 6 MO Armick, Margaret 5 MO Armick, Aberaham 3 MO I hope you find this helpful. Joyce
Thanks Joyce, It sure does help, its what I been looking for! It sure does add to the mystery doesn't it. There is a Jane Bowles 10 in their household and when Margaret married Marshall in 1887 she had the last name Bowls? The age is two yrs off, but I am sure this is her! So the plot thickens and I will keep on!!! Thanks Again. Evie From: joyce@bluegrass.net To: south-central-kentucky@rootsweb.com CC: eviegen@msn.com Subject: Re: [SCKY] Amos, Amyx, Amick, Ames, Bowles, Rice Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 07:37:24 -0400 I think I have found your Margaret Amic. By searcning for "Margaret" in Dallas Co., MO I found the following family in the 1870 Census--Dallas Co --Grant Township--Buffalo PO, page 25, houehold 169: Armick, Simintha 34 TN Bowles, Jane 10 TN Armick, Nancy A 6 MO Armick, Margaret 5 MO Armick, Aberaham 3 MO I hope you find this helpful. Joyce _________________________________________________________________ Interest Rates NEAR 39yr LOWS! $430,000 Mortgage for $1,299/mo - Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-19132&moid=14888