The Washington Post, 19 Dec 1909. "There died in Barren county, Ky., a few days ago "Uncle" Israel Putnam Tisdale, at the remarkable age of 120 years, well authenticated by many circumstances. He lived in three centuries; in this particular equating the record of Thomas Parr, who lived to be 156, and died of a surfeit at the table then. He was as old as the Constitution of the United States, and lived under all of our Presidents from Washington to Taft, both inclusive. He was 10 years old when the first President died, and 68 when the now President was born, but he survived the twenty-second President more than a year, though, Mr. Cleveland lived to be three-score years and eleven. "When this old Negro was born Andrew Jackson was a young lawyer of 22; Napoleon Bonaparte was scarce emerged from the military school of Brienne; Marabeau, Denton, and Robespierre were yet unknown to history; Pitt, Fox, and burks, the great trinity of British eloquence were not yet at their zenith, and Clay, Calhoun, and Webster were children. Sir Walter Scott was a very young man of 18, and Patrick Henry was yet alive, the first orator orf either hemisphere. "Uncle" Israel was a lusty farmhand when Nelson gained "the most glorious and most mournful of victories" at Trafalgar, and he was a man of 26, the husband of a wife and the father of children, when the mighty Corsican demogod went down, the victim of fate at Waterloo. "When Israel Tisdale was born Thomas Jefferson was under 50 - only 46 - and the Declaration of American Independence had been declared but thirteen years before. When Port Sumter was fired on "Uncle" Israel was past threescore and ten, and he lived 44 years after Appomattox. "He died the other day, and his funeral was an event. Hundreds of whites, of both sexes and all ages, were there to mourn the departure of this old servitor, whose heart, perhaps, had never known guile, and whose hand certainly had never brought evil. His life was one of toil. For more than a century he was a day laborer. He knew the carol of the lark at dawn; he had been lulled by the chirp of the cricket at night. It was the simplest life and the plainest food. He was content. He ran, or rather walked, the race set before him, and future generations of both races in Barren county still revere his memory. "What a pity 'tis that Scott, Macaulay, Thackeray, Dickens, Poe, Balzac, Fielding, Smollett, Goldsmith, and others of the cloth didnot live so long, retaining their facilities uimpaired, and their genius undimmed!" Note: Much has been written of Uncle Tisdale in Barren Co. He can be tracked through later censuses, vital statistics, etc. It appears that he was as said, 120 years old. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Sandi has generously given me permission to pass along some information concerning a possible genealogical conference to be held in Paducah this summer. I realize that this regional coverage of this List does not extend to Ballard, Carlisle, Calloway, Fulton, Graves, Hickman, Marshall or McCracken counties(the KY Jackson Purchase region), but I also know that some of Sandi's subscribers have connections in that region. In 2000, a genealogical conference was held in Murray, Kentucky for those individuals who subscribe to mail lists which I host in the Jackson Purchase region of KY, and to lists in the border JP counties in Tennessee, and for other interested parties. At that time, it was the consensus that, in five years, another such conference might be held. Since five years have now passed since that event, I am inquiring as to whether enough interest is present to warrant proceeding with the planning of such an event. The general facts connected with the proposed conference are that it would be held in Paducah, probably sometime in the middle or late July time frame. It would very likely be a 3 day event, since time will be allowed for attendees who come from long distances to be "on their own" to explore cemeteries, libraries, courthouses, etc. Those who live in the area, of course, will not have any lodging expense. The registration fee will have to be determined, but a rough figure is about $65 per attendee. We would expect to have one or two nationally known speakers, as well as informational materials and speakers on local items of interest, along with a conference banquet, book vendors and other handout materials. The event would be headquartered in Paducah to make use of conference facilities in the hotels there, in order to try to keep lodging and meetings in the same building where possible. If you have an interest in attending such a conference, please let me know via private e-mail by the 10th, so that a determination can be made as to whether to proceed. In order to do so, we will need at least 100 attendees. At this time, we have 79. If more than one person would be attending in your group, please give me that information, too, so that we can more accurately tabulate the number of potential attendees. Thanks for your consideration of this possible event. -B ===================================================================

The burial locations of more than 5 million veterans for whom the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) has provided grave markers are now available on the Internet, as well as the information inscribed on the markers. Online since April 2004, the _Nationwide Gravesite Locator_ (http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1) or _http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1_ (http://gravelocator.cem.va.gov/j2ee/servlet/NGL_v1) helps veterans' families, former comrades-in-arms and others find the graves of veterans. VA recently added 1.9 million records for veterans buried primarily in private cemeteries to its database. Internet users only need to provide the last name of the deceased veteran or dependent. Typically, the information available includes name, birth and death dates, rank, branch of service and the address and phone number of the cemetery. Veterans whose discharges are other than dishonorable, their spouses and dependent children may be buried in a national cemetery, regardless of where they live. No advance reservations are made. VA provides perpetual care, as well as a headstone or marker, a burial flag and a memorial certificate to survivors. Information on VA burial benefits can be obtained from national cemetery offices, from a VA Website at _www.cem.va.gov_ (http://www.cem.va.gov/) or by calling VA regional offices toll-free at 1-800-827-1000. p.s. I found many of my family among the list. _Ar2BurnTree@aol.com_ (mailto:Ar2BurnTree@aol.com) Michael N. Arterburn 210 Marywood Avenue Claremont, CA 91711 1-800-350-5445 Ar2BurnTree@aol.com

New York Times, 24 Jun 1884. "Louisville, Ky., June 23. - Saturday night W. W. JONES arrived at Bowling Green, Ky., with a 16-year old bride, the daughter of a wealthy farmer near Gallatin, Tenn., where the groom also resided. On Sunday night they went to the railroad station to wait for a train back to Gallatin. The young groom went away for a while, probably having been decoyed, when a notorious person, Pleas EVERHART, approached the bride and, telling her that her husband had deserted her, induced her to go up town with him in search of a hotel, saying to her that he would telegraph to her husband, but istead of seeing her to a hotel, led her to the reservoir, where he attempted to assault her. The screams of the girl could be heard for a considerable distance. After being released she made her way down into the city and told her sad story. The greatest excitement prevails among all classes. This morning Everhart was arrested, and is now safely behind prison bars. The unfortunate bride is of good family and unsophisticated. The Grand Jury now has the case in hand." I wonder if they ever found the groom! I can't find a follow-up to the story. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Continuation of 1 Oct 1799 meeting. Ordered that Jacob SMITH be appt Surveyor of the road from his place to the buffalow Gap instead of John McNEEL. Robert WALLACE joined the justices. Robert WALLACE, Daniel McNEEL, John SMITH and Laurence SMITH to view for a road from the courthouse to Robert Wallace's and from there to the county line towards the Barren Co courthouse. Thomas CHAPMAN, Elias McFADIN, George GREEN and Daniel MUNROE the same order - road from Warren Courthouse to Tulliver CRAIG's Mill. An acct against the estate of ALEXANDER in favour of Charles SIMMONS exhibited and recorded. Commonwealth vs James McGILL who was charged with vagrancy. Found that he does not come under the Act of Vagrancy, case discharged. Hezekiah JACKSON vs William STRINGFIELD case continued until next court. Hands allotted to work on the roads: Joseph DUNKEEN (the surveyor) - William ELLIDGE, Lewis READER, James LEAPER, John ESTES, William ESTES, William HILL, Elijah HILL, Hawkins HILL, Abner HILL, John HILL, Richard FREEMAN, John DENTON, Benjamin MILTON, WIlliam MILTON, Thomas BURIS, Charles LOYD, Jobe LOYD, William GOFF, John WRIGHT, John WILLIAMS, William KING, Richard DYE, Benjamin DYE, William SMALLING?, Alexander DIVING, Richard SMITH, Joseph VALLARD, Jesse RAY, William DENNEN, John SURRATT, Elijah RIGHT, Richard WRIGHT, John ROBERSON, William ROBINSON, George LOCHROMS, Thomas WRIGHT, Thomas ROBINSON, Joseph ANTHONY, James PHAHAN, William TRAVELSTREET, David HOLLOMON, Elijah HOLLOMAN, James CONNER, John BARNHART, John BARNHARD, Jr, John ABSHER, Israil ANDERSON, Samuel ANDERSON, James McRONELS, Isaac WADKINS, Henry NEWBY. Above allotted by Ragland LANGSTON, Larken BETHELL. Hands to work uner Nicholas DARNALL: Edward REVIS, Mathew COLWELL, Robert CATES, Thomas CATES, Isaac BERRY, Henry MORE, Michael ROBINSON, Reubin JORDIN, Frank JORDIN, Thomas JORDIN,Reubin JORDIN, Elias JORDIN, Joseph JORDIN, William JORDIN, Frank JORDIN, Hezekiah GARROTT, Aron YOUNGBLOOD, Thoms SPAN, Aron NEEL, John WINRIGHT?, Mr. MASEFIELD, James COLWELL, Charles INBY?, Surwell THOMPSON, J Burell THOMPSON Sr, Samuel THOMPSON,Stephen THOMPSON, Balan THOMPSON, Ephraim THOMPSON, John McWILLIAMS, Henry HUCKLEROY?, Ivin THOMPSON, John SPAN, Nicklas ROBINSON, Thomas WALLACE, Nicholas DARNALL, Henry DARNELL, Thomas DARNELL, Booth MALONE, Jong? LANGSTON, William McDONNELL, Isaac KING, Abraham KING, James WARDIS, James WARQURE?, Jesse HENSON, John HENSON, Jiles HENSON, Nicholas SHRUM, George GOODWIN, Benjamin HENSON, William DURNAL, James EARLY, John DALOO, William DUNCIN, Marvil DNCIN, George ROPER, John LEEPER, Soloman WHITE, James BLACKBURN, Eyer LOGAN, Thomas PRICE, WIlliam SUTTON, Thomas SUTTON, Jeffery SUTTON, Henry NEWBY. To be continued next week. Note: I transcribed these from the WPA typed copy of the 1930's. I am sure that the transcribers had trouble reading some of the names and I had to type them as shown which may or may not have been the exact spelling in the orginal document. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

How Monroe Countians voted in the Nov. general election. For the school board: (I will show names and total votes): J L CONKIN (278), L B GILLENWATER (15), H M PARDUE (211), U T QUINN (51), L C RICH (32), A C PINCKLEY (295), W J HEAD (384), Ivan F PEDIGO (229), J E ARTERBURN (28), W A GOAD (221), Ben D BOWMAN (35), E E MAINES (25). For Attorney General: Hubert MEREDITH (223); Atty. G. Tom HAWKINS (334). For State Senator: W C FARMER (355). For Representative: Cass R WALDEN (367). For County Jude: P W MURPHY (229), J E MARTIn (399). For Sheriff: Geo F MARRS (254), Abe CARTER (400). For Jailer: Chess McPHERSON (236), Felin FORD (182). For County Attorney: Paul CARTER (378). For County Court Clerk: Stanford MOORE (375). For Tax Commissioner: Glen JACKSON (364). For Coroner: D O HAGAN (345). For Magistrates: G R PULLIAM (189), G B FRAIM (55), D O TURNER (87), John MILLER (138), O H FORD, WESLEY PAGE, J F ROBINSON, Bruce ROBINSON (no votes), A J ROBINSON (64), Comer HURD (26). For constable: Garlin KING (32), Eddie DUNCAN (19). Rev S L PRUITT of Fountain Run called to serve Tompkinsville Baptist Church. Also preaches a Temple Hill, a young man, considered unusually successful. Had conducted a meeting at Flippin and a bus load of people went to hear him including Mrs Woot ROUSE, Mrs Lucy WALDEN, Mr and Mrs. Ezra MAINES and daughter and granddaughter and Heb LAWRENCE. In another vehicle were Mr and Mrs J M HAGAN Jr and Mrs. J N GILLENWATER. Story from Fountain Run where a fox bit Jesse WELLBORN. At about 1 o'clock he heard a disturbance in his hen-house; went out in his night clothes and carried a shotgun. It was dark and he didn't take a light. A wild animal sprang at his ankles and bit him. There were 4 attacks before he started for the house being chased by the animal, got into the house and slammed the door, turned and saw a gray fox had followed him inside. In the light the fox became less vicious and tried to escape. Wellborn killed him with a stove poker. He is undergoing rabies treatments. Honor roll at Old Mt Hermon school: Catherine HAGAN, Serrah HAGAN, Chloe Eagle HAGAN, Marie FORD, Claude STRODE, Mildred HAMMER, Roy PAGE, Nelda PITCOCK and Inas CARLOCK. Teacher is Travis STEENBERGEN. Avery CHISM of Fountain Run, 71, prominent citizen dies Saturday am of pneumonia, services attended by 500 people. Rev T F GRIDER of Glasgow conducted services, Masonic. Widow and 3 children survive - Mrs Sallie HAGAN Chism, Mrs. Gladys WOODS, Sam CHISM and Earnest CHISM, all of Fountain Run. Mesdames Kathryn LaBRASH and J B HOLLINSWORTH hosted the T'ville Garden Club 26 Oct, discussed lillies. Those participating included Mrs Sam HAGAN, Mrs S L HILL, Mrs Laura MILLER, Mrs C C CRABTREE. Next meeting at Mrs Price KIRKPATRICK. Visitors to the aboe meeting included Mesdames Carson CARPENTER of Louisville, Mrs S L HILL and Mrs L E HEILMAN. Mr Bertie BIGGERS of Decatur visiting here dropped dead of a heart attack in front of the home of John Tom BUTLER Monday. Arrangements pending while waiting for family to arrive from IL. He and Frank BELCHER had come here last Friday for a short visit; the deceased was a native of the county and a brother of Tom BIGGERS, Freddie BIGGERS and Mrs Nora BELCHER; left here 42 yrs ago. A colored chld was fatally shot by his grandfather in the T'ville Kingdom last Sat; died at the Community hospital about 4 o'clock Sunday morning. Coroner D O HAGAN held an inquest but there is no verdict. Andrew SIMS fired the fatal shot and alleges it struck a rock, glancing and striking the child in the abdomen. Comer TOOLEY was the father of the child. Personal notices: Miss Amy HAMMER, Riah? MILLER, Blanche PICKERELL, Karene WRIGHT & Anna Lee WILSON are absent from school at Gamaliel with the measles. Mrs Mary Clifford LONG and daughter Lenora have returned from a visit to Cincinnati. County Clerk F A BOWMAN returned from a trip through the SE. Mrs. BOWMAN is in the hospital at Glasgow. Mr & Mrs Lawrence CONDRA of Indianapolis had a 7 lb baby girl, Phyllis Wanda, born 22 Oct. He is the son of Mr & Mrs Herbert CONDRA; she as Miss Lucille THOMAS before marriage. Mrs Shadrach BARTLEY entertained Wed: Mrs Laura BUSHONG, Miss Flroa McPHERSON, Miss Flora McPHERSON, Miss Eva DICKERSON, Mrs Bud HAMMER and Mrs Escoe WOOD. Mr & Mrs Robert REECER had their second son, Robert Lee. Mr & Mrs Win HOSKINS and Miss Melva WOOD of Campbellsville visited relatives here Wed. Dr & Mrs Tim Lee CARTER of Memphis visited relatives here. Miss Mollie PACE in the hospital in Glasgow, improving after her 5th operation and numerous blood transfusions. She the d/o Sheriff and Mrs Stanley PACE of Burkesville. Mrs. Archie DUNVAN of Red Lick KY was guest of Dr & mrs R F DUNCAN. Mr & Mrs T K CHISM had guests last week - Mr & Mrs Sam R LANDRUM of Joplin Mo; Mrs. Landrum's father was Mr Samuel CHISM who left Monroe Co for MO in 1859 or 1839 (faded). Arthur PICKERELL wife and baby visited with C T GRAY (her father) and other relatives. They live at Norwood OH. Mr Pickerell is a brother of C W Pickerell of Route 3. Mrs Pearl Eagle BUSHONG is visiting her brother, J H EAGLE at Sparta TN. Mr and Mrs H L COMBS of Hartford KY were in T'ville for the election. Guests of Dr and Mrs G E BUSHON were Dr W W NICHOLSON of Louisville, Dr Wm LAMB the State Dept Field Secretary and Dr Fred CAUDILL, State Epidemiologist. Mr Avery CHISM's funeral was attended by the following T'ville people: Messrs and Mesdames T K CHISM, Levi BAILEY, Ralph, Sam and L P HAGAN, Paul LEE, Carson COOK, Fred TURNER, Bob McCREARY, Elva SHORT, Elner McCREARY, J M HAGAN, Mrs Jno CECIL, Misses Paula HAGAN adn Emma Jean Gillenwater. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I've been working with the KY Death Index for those individuals that died in Clinton County for the past few days. I ran up on a real stumper tonight, and I'm hoping someone can help me identify her. Name is Minnie A. York, she's listed in the 1900-1929 deaths as dying at age 73, but her death date is obviously wrong. The death date listed is 22-71-1901. I'm thinking the correct date of death may be 1-22-1971, but have nothing but a hunch that I'm going on - it's the only possibility if the numbers listed are actually correct, just in the wrong order. Does anyone know who this Minnie York is, and what her correct date of death is? Thanks, Sherri

Can someone explain administrator bonds to me? Saw question regarding this and wondered. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: <Huntin4hugheses@aol.com> To: <SOUTH- -KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: [SCKY] General Question on Administrator Bonds (Mid 1850's to 1860's) > All, > > Can anyone tell me the average time between a persons death and the > issuance of an Administrator bond? > I have located a bond and am trying to determine when the person died > (intestate). > On average, does anyone know if it took months, weeks, days ...... Would > it > have moved faster if there was land involved? > > Guidance is appreciated! > > > Happy New Year! > > Gi > > > ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== > > >

All, Can anyone tell me the average time between a persons death and the issuance of an Administrator bond? I have located a bond and am trying to determine when the person died (intestate). On average, does anyone know if it took months, weeks, days ...... Would it have moved faster if there was land involved? Guidance is appreciated! Happy New Year! Gi

Susie, administrator (or administratrix bonds if the person appointed is female) are bonds required of the person named to settle an estate. The bonds are to help insure that the person performs all the odds and ends connected with settling an estate and that they do not decide to quit before the job is done. The amount of the bonds in dollars depends largely upon how much the estate is worth. The record of the bonds are kept by the county clerk, though they are actually Probate Court records. When the court accepts the report of the administrator that the estate is settled, the bonds are discharged (canceled). If the deceased had a will, the person to settle the estate is usually named in it and the will can specify that the person is to act without being bonded. If no one has been named by the deceased, the court will appoint someone to be administrator, almost always someone the family approves, but the court does not have to have the family's approval. I doubt the date on a bond would be of much help in penning down the date of a death, since the process begins with furnishing proof of the death and goes on and on. It is not uncommon at all for it to consume a year or more. I remember one case in Adair County, where a person died in 1946 and the estate was not settled until 1977. Hermit in the Woods ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susie Hiland" <bshiland@insightbb.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [SCKY] General Question on Administrator Bonds (Mid 1850's to 1860's) | Can someone explain administrator bonds to me? Saw question regarding this | and wondered. Thanks! | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: <Huntin4hugheses@aol.com> | To: <SOUTH- -KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> | Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:38 PM | Subject: [SCKY] General Question on Administrator Bonds (Mid 1850's to | 1860's) | | | > All, | > | > Can anyone tell me the average time between a persons death and the | > issuance of an Administrator bond? | > I have located a bond and am trying to determine when the person died | > (intestate). | > On average, does anyone know if it took months, weeks, days ...... Would | > it | > have moved faster if there was land involved? | > | > Guidance is appreciated! | > | > | > Happy New Year! | > | > Gi | > | > | > ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== | > | > | > | | | | ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== | |

Friends - I've never been the greedy sort, wanting what someone else has. But, I am coming down hard with the flu with each hour causing me to feel worse. I am going to go ahead and make my Monday posts now so I can sleep in tomorrow or feel sorry for myself one! See previous posts for explanation of the names. PACE: Cordelia C, Harriet L, Hezekiah P, Jas C,, Lucinda C. Guardian: John J Pace; sureties: Wm H CLARK & Wm O PACE, 16 June 1856. This appears to be a guardian ad litem. PACE: Landon P. Guardian: Mark DOUGHERTY; sureties: D M ASHLEY and Will BYBEE, 9 June 1857. PAGE: John J, Robert N. Orphans of Robert N, deceased. Mary Page; George W Page, 27 Dec 1830. PARE: Nancy. Orphan of Marcus, decd. Judith Pare; John T BAROW, 18 Aug 1845. PARR, Thompson: Orphan of ___ Parr, decd. Jacob PECK; William ELLIS, 17 Feb 1845. PARRISH: Caroline, Edwin, Ellen, Oscar, Robert P., William G: Orphans of Nathaniel H, decd. Nathaniel H Parrish, William W Parrish, 16 Dec 1839. PARRISH, Geo T., Jno T, N. H., Walla : Guardian: E R Williams; surety: Wm M WILSON, 13 Oct 1856. PARRISH: George W, Henry C., Zerilda M: Infant orphans of Fleming, decd. Polly Parrish; Fountain DUKE, Albert Duke & Elisha DICKEY. 18 May 1846. PARRISH, Jane, Louisa Ann: Orphan of Parks, decd. William W Parrish; Nathaniel W Parrish, Flemint T Parrish and Robert FREEMAN, 25 Oct 1830. PAYNE: Luona, Mahala, Nancy J, Wm: Iffants of Martin Payne. Guardian: Martin Payne; sureties: Richard ROUNDTREE, 16 Dec 1844. PAYNE: Mary E H. Guardian: ELiza J Payne. SUreties: Jerome B LANDRUM, 15 Sept 1856. PAYNE: Simon. Document says "his wife Polly Payne of said Jubal Payne." Signed by Jubal Payne and George B ELLIS, 19 Apr 1841. PAYNE, Thomas W. Guardian: James M Payne; sureties: W E MUNFORD, 15 Oct 1856. PECK: Mary P. Guardian: Allen BRADSHAW; sureties: Seth BRADSHAW and Aaron KINSLOW. 30 May 1857. to be continued next week. Sandi PS - No new puzzler this week, you can continue to guess on the past week's. Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

We have some photos on the Metcalfe County site that were contributed by Jeanette Douglas Denton. The email address I have for her is broken. If anyone can put me in touch with her, I will be grateful. Charlie Hartley

. | | | | . | | | | | The exception being, if we mean the Hindenberger family dog (Hindenbergers) an apostrophe after the letter s will show possession, without another s, i.e. the Hindenbergers' dog). Hermit in the Woods | || | | | Don't use the apostrophe in names | | Except to show possession, | | As in: The Hindenberger's dog | | Shows tendencies towards aggression. | | | | Abe Miller begat Millers, | | Not Miller's, for years | | And the long line of Brighams, | | Not Brigham's, were early pioneers. | | | | Don't call your family book | | "The Johnson's" or "The Clark's" | | Unless you add what it is they own- | | Their cabin, their bed, their knives or forks. | | | | "The Johnson's Cabin" makes good sense; | | The Johnsons would be proud | | For they scraped together what they had | | In a struggle from earth to the shroud. | | | | Now, for the exception to the rule | | (I see you all have frowned) | | Add "es" to the names | | Ending in "s" or in an "s" sound. | | | | The Joneses and the Davises | | Look quite odd, I'm sure you will agree, | | But the standard rules of English | | Were not made up by me. | | | | When thinking of the Smiths, | | Don't double-pluralize. | | John Smith's children were not Smithses, | | And neither were his wives. | | | | As for those hated brick-walls, | | (Should we be by fortune seized) | | How would we spend our extra time | | If those were solved with ease? | | | | Shirley Malone | | | | Please feel free to send to other lists. | | | ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== | |

FAMILY NAMES For those who've banged against brick-walls Until brain cells were bruised Here's another little problem That might have you confused. When you speak of family names, As genealogists often do, Please omit the apostrophe When you mean more than two. (Actually more than one, but it doesn't rhyme that way) So, to be correct, the Smiths or Wrights, Not Smith's or Wright's, is what you'd say. Don't use the apostrophe in names Except to show possession, As in: The Hindenberger's dog Shows tendencies towards aggression. Abe Miller begat Millers, Not Miller's, for years And the long line of Brighams, Not Brigham's, were early pioneers. Don't call your family book "The Johnson's" or "The Clark's" Unless you add what it is they own- Their cabin, their bed, their knives or forks. "The Johnson's Cabin" makes good sense; The Johnsons would be proud For they scraped together what they had In a struggle from earth to the shroud. Now, for the exception to the rule (I see you all have frowned) Add "es" to the names Ending in "s" or in an "s" sound. The Joneses and the Davises Look quite odd, I'm sure you will agree, But the standard rules of English Were not made up by me. When thinking of the Smiths, Don't double-pluralize. John Smith's children were not Smithses, And neither were his wives. As for those hated brick-walls, (Should we be by fortune seized) How would we spend our extra time If those were solved with ease? Shirley Malone Please feel free to send to other lists.

I am looking for anyone who might have pictures of the BARRONS family that lived in the Mammoth Cave area and descended from Amon BARRONS and Sidney TREVITT. I know that many descendants still live in the Cave City, Glasgow and Hart Co. area. I am specifically looking for any pictures of Eunice J. Barrons SELF (married W. J. Self, John H. BARRONS, Levi James F. Barrons (married Beckie), William T. BARRONS (married Pauline Sturgeon, I believe), Jeff BARRONS (married Polly Sturgeon), Sudie Barrons HOUCHINS (married Fred Houchins), Virgie Barrons GARRISON (married Jim Garrison), Lula Barrons LEE (married Pate Lee), William E. BARRONS (married Violet Hunter). Please send to jlawler@mchsi.com. Thanks. Judy Lawler Descendant of Amon Barrons

If I understand the question correctly. This site is going to charge for searches you can do for free! I agree, all info I pull up I have already found at free sites/public records.

It has some good birth, marriage and death records. Just do a general search under any "surname" without the first name. It will give you a list of databases the name appears in. Then, narrow it down in the database by entering the first name and the county, etc. Good luck! Jan Lund ----- Original Message ----- From: <ENC6@aol.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [SCKY] FTL Records Free Until 12/30/05 > > I sure would like someone else to take a look at this site and run some test > searches. I am pretty sure all the results I got on the names I tried are > really linking to free sites somewhere else. > > Could someone else give it a try and see what you think. > > Thanks - Emma > > In a message dated 12/29/2005 7:22:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, > ldrbelties@earthlink.net writes: > > Everything is free in the FTL Records Collection until the end of December. > Over 400 million records FREE at: > http://www.familytreelegends.com/records/ > > ______________________________ >

Sorry - that search was on Ivester.... Thanks - Emma

My apologies, I guess I didn't explain myself very well. I did a search on the surname Iveser and came up with hits in these databases: SSDI - that is free at Rootsweb Calif. Births, 1905-1995 Calif. Deaths, 1940-1997 - is free at rootsweb Texas Marriages - can download from state of Texas Texas Births 1926-1995 - is on a lot of the county USGenWeb sites already Texas Divorces, 1968-2002 - afailable for free from state of Tx Ky. Births 1911-1999 Illinois Deaths 1916-1950 - free from st. of Ill Az. Deaths 1878-1953 - free from state of Az Tx. Deaths - 1964-1998 - free at rootsweb Arizona Births, 1887-1928 - free from State of Az Ky Marriages, 1960-1993 - rootsweb has 1973-2000 and U of Ky has soom free too Ill. Marriages, 1763-1900 - free from state of Ill Ill. Deaths bef 1916 - free from state of Ill Ky. Divorces - 1907-1998 - U. of Ky has some What is really sort of sad is that for the Arizona databases - births and deaths - if you go to the state site you can copy the actual image of the birth certificate or death certificate. It is really neat. Anyway... that was what I was trying to say. Thanks - Emma In a message dated 12/29/2005 5:55:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, ENC6@aol.com writes: I sure would like someone else to take a look at this site and run some test searches. I am pretty sure all the results I got on the names I tried are really linking to free sites somewhere else. Could someone else give it a try and see what you think. Thanks - Emma

For those of you on the Barren Co list, I bombarded you tonight with obituary posts. I was behind with the current obits and needed to get caught up. For those of you who are new to the list, I don't do this all the time! I want to get back soon to posting the older obits too ... in 2006 likely! If you are fairly new, just a note to let you know that on the Barren Co board, I have posted over 4200 obits dating from the late 1890's up through current times. If you'd like to check them out, click on the URL in my signature line called SCKY links, then click on Barren Co board. You can space down a bit and set the board to look at the obituaries. Or, if you are looking to see if I've posted a specific name, you can do a search for that surname on the board. Be sure to have it search just the Barren Co board, not all boards/sites. It will search not only the obituaries but military, marriages, wills, deeds and other categories. I'm off until Monday now except maybe a little post tomorow from the old newspapers. So to each and every one of you - Happy New Year! Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/