Another tidbit for those of you who live in VA or want to take a trip there. Sherri of the list is always on the lookout - I'd really like to see this! Sandi -----Original Message----- From: Research and writing about Virginia genealogy and family history. [mailto:VA-ROOTS@LISTLVA.LIB.VA.US] On Behalf Of Laura Wickstead Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:32 PM To: VA-ROOTS@LISTLVA.LIB.VA.US Subject: Showcasing 300 Years of Treasures Showcasing 300 Years of Treasures: The Virginia Room, Past, Present and Future The Virginia Room opens wide its doors. You are invited to see maps, documents, newspapers, books and photographs recording three centuries of Roanoke Valley and Virginia history. Learn what we are doing to preserve and provide access to materials in our collection. Enjoy an in-depth tour of the research area and the secure, temperature controlled Special Collections room. Take advantage of this opportunity to see rare items from Special Collections, including a 1682 indenture from England, a 1754 land patent signed by royal governor Lord Botetourt, and the Roanoke Beacon newspaper of 1823. Other items on display will be an 1886 map of Virginia "Mineral Resources and Railway Facilities", George Davis photographs and glass plate negatives and Sanborn Insurance maps from the early 1900's. Thursday, February 9, 4:00pm-7:00pm. Roanoke Public Libraries, 706 S. Jefferson St. Roanoke, VA. For more information, call 540- 853-2073 or varoom@roanokeva.gov Laura S. Wickstead, Librarian Roanoke Public Libraries Virginia Room 706 S. Jefferson St. Roanoke, VA 24016 PH: 540-853-2073 Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I need assistance with this family. I have searched for years for the parents or siblings of George. He was in Barren Co in 1850 and Metcalfe 1860 and 1870. in 1850 he gave his birth place as VA and in 1870 as KY. In 1850 Barren Co there is a Joseph May who I suspact is his father but just can't tie them together. Any help will be greatly appreciated Thanks Alice 1 George W May b: Abt. 1819 in Virginia (1850) or Kentucky? (1870) .. +Lettice Cullins b: Abt. 1814 in KY m: 11 Sep 1844 d: Bef. 1849 Father: William Cullins Mother: Lettice Shirley . 2 Joseph H. May b: Abt. 1846 in Ky d: in Probably Texas ..... +Mary Ann Cox b: 04 Nov 1848 in Ky d: 30 Dec 1908 in Melissa, Texas Father: John P. Jr. Cox Mother: Regina D Patteson .... 3 George D May b: 1865 in Ky d: 1923 ........ +Liddie L.K. .... *2nd Wife of George D May: ........ +Mary Spervillin/Spradlin m: 08 Nov 1885 .... 3 William Marshal May b: 19 May 1870 in Glasgo,Ky d: 02 Apr 1952 in Melissa, Collin Co. Texas ........ +Luinda Smith b: 08 Jan 1879 in Pike Co., IN m: 30 Oct 1892 in Valdosta, Collin co., Texas d: Jan 1940 in Melissa, Collin Co. Texas Marriage Fact: in married by Wm. Jenkins, LD of the MECS Father: Henry Harrison Smith Mother: Wealtha Ann Roy .... 3 Ginnia V May b: 1874 .... 3 Noah F May b: 12 Oct 1877 d: 21 Sep 1937 in TX ........ +Jannie . 2 Mary D. May b: Abt. 1847 *2nd Wife of George W May: .. +Mary Cullins b: Abt. 1816 in KY m: 05 Aug 1849 in Barren Co., Ky. Marriage Fact: in Ref bk l pg 131 file 11 film #551018 LDS Thomas Cullen Bondsman Father: William Cullins Mother: Lettice Shirley . 2 Georgeiana May b: 11 Jan 1852 ..... +William Dougherty --------------------------------- Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.

Gary, In your e-mail message you didn't indicate how you were related to these folks, if at all.I am particularly interested because of the first name "Milton". Milton KIDWELL was born about 1815 in Kentucky. Some evidence exists that he was the son of Levi KIDWELL b. NC d. 1850 in Benton County MO. Levi and his wife were married in April 1812 in Madison County KY. Mikton was married to Lydia (Unknown) b. abt 1815 and lost an arm in a lumber mill accident in 1849 in Benton County MO. In 1850 he was enumerated with his wife, three daughters and a son in Tepo TWP. Henry County MO. Sometime between 1850 and 1860 his wife and eldest daughter died. Milton abandoned his remaining three children and went to California where he died in 1905. If any of this is familiar I would be most happy to share what I have about the KIDWELLs. I addressed this both to the South central list and to you personally because of the difficulties recently with rootsweb and AOL Walt Jones Spokane WA Hello Walt, The Elsie Susan HAMMER listed was my grandmother and the Bible records came from her. The name "Milton" came down through the HAMMER family instead of the KIDWELLS. These KIDWELLS came from Maryland who were there in the 1600s. After the Revolutionary War, Matthew KIDWELL moved from Md to Va to Tn and then Monroe County, Kentucky where he died. I am through his son, William b. VA and then his son, Isham, who was listed in the Bible. There were several KIDWELL families in the northeast part of Kentucky at the same time but they were very distantly related. I have gone through some research materials but do not see your names. Thanks for the reply and if I find something, I'll let you know. Gary

I meant to post this yesterday ... several of you have written and asked why they are not receiving mail from the lists. Roots Web moved some of their mail servers, which caused some UP addresses to change. In techie terms, these addresses had been "whitelisted" by ISP's all over the country. This allows spam filters to deliver rootsweb msgs. (let the mail go thru, not spam). However, AOL users were impacted, along with some Compuserve and others. RootsWeb and AOL have been tryng to get this corrected - hopefully sooner rather than later. Some of the AOL subbers are slowly getting their mail, and hopefully this will be settled very soon. It won't help you who are getting the msgs but I'm hoping that the others will check archives of this list and see what the problem has been. We don't need a discussion on this list about the problem but wanted to give you a heads-up. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

3 Dec 1799; Michael HART, WIlliam SMITH and Gladin GORIN present. Last will and testament of CHARLES STUART proven by oaths of Isaac MARES & David A STUART, witnesses. Burwell JACKSON came into court and qualified as Executor; Andrew McFADIN, security. Indenture of bargain & sale between WIlliam BUFORD and Francis BLACKWELL of the 2nd part proved by oaths of Jacob DRY, Stout BRINSON & John WOOD. Same between William BUFORD of the 1st part & John WOOD of the 2nd part; oats of Sout BRINSON and Jacob DRY. Same between the same two, same witnesses. Same between Francis BLACKWELL & John WOOD; oaths of same as above. Daniel DOUGHTY exempt from payng county levy for present year. 7 Jan 1800: Gladin GORIN, Michael HART & David HUDSPETH present. Andrew McFADIN made oath that a certificate obtained in the hand sof Elisha HOSKINS is on a military survey and ordered that he be entitled to remove the same agreeable to an act of assembly in that case. Ordered that ZACHARIAH MORRIS be allowed 10 lbs per yr for 5 years for the maintenance of Fanny SKILLET, child of Christian SKILLITT. James ATWOOD, Justice, joined the other justices. William STRAIT made oath that a certificate obtained in the name of Israel STRAIT is on a military survey... same as above. Same for Henry JONES on a certificate in the name of William LEE; Same for John McNEEL, Reubin FOX and Vincent ANDERSON in the name of Benjamin HAMPTON; same for Jesse BOICE on certificate in the name of James DONAHOO; same for Henry THOMAS & William LONG on certificate in the name of Henry THOMAS; same for Joseph DUNCAN re certificate in the name of Thomas PEEL; same for Henry JONES in his name.John COX came into court and made oath that a certain hat, then in the posession of John TAYLOR matched the description given by a Mr HUSTON in Bardstown, some person having taken it. Indentkure of bargain and sale between Levy CASEY and E W COVINGTGON recorded. Joseph CAMPBELL mde petition and is appt Constable; John McNEEL and John WALLACE his securities. E W COVINGTON came into court, took oath as surveyor; went bond with Samuel GOODE, Michael HART & John ESTES. Adjourned until the next day. Note: As I have mentioned before, if a settler accidentally settled on land set aside for the soldiers and officers of VA after the Rev. War due to poor surveys, they had to come into court and return that certificate. They were then allowed to claim other unappropriated land and were not fined for the error. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Isham Dicken Kidwell was born on 30 Jan 1829 in Meshack, Monroe Co, KY, and died on 22 Dec 1914 in Tompkinsville, KY. He is buried in Oak Hill Cemetery. He married Sarah Ann Williams on 12 Jun 1851. He is the son of William Francis Kidwell who was born in 1795 in Pendleton Co, VA, and died on 28 Jul 1859 in Meshack, KY. He is buried in Smith Cemetery, Monroe Co. William married first Mary Francis Dicken in 1818 in Monroe Co and second Catherine (Payne) Ball on 11 Mar 1836 in Barren Co, KY. Isham had 7 children: John Fed J. Kidwell William L. Kidwewll Martin Dicken Kidwell Samuel Thomas Kidwell Permelia Susan Kidwell Nancy Catherine Kidwell Mary F. Kidwell William Francis Kidwell was the son of Matthew Nathan Kidwell and Priscilla Moore. Both were born in MD. They moved to Cumberland Co (land now located in Monroe Co) in ca1800 & settled on land on Meshack Creek near land settled by John Page. I have much more info on the Kidwell Family, including a 200+ page book on the family I have written. Don Page ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gary06074@aol.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 8:46 PM Subject: [SCKY] Hammer Bible records, Kidwell, Williams, others > These records are written on pages that are old and brittle with a few holes > through the middle. Printed at the top of the pages are "Scripture Memoranda" > and have old glue stains on the left side so I assume they came from a Bible. > Both Isham and Sarah, the grandparents were born in Monroe Co., KY as well as > the parents, Milton and Permelia. Most of the older children were born in > Missouri and the younger ones at Meshack, Monroe County, KY. I believe all the > children's marriages took place in Monroe County, KY. > Gary Pitcock, South Windsor, CT > > Page One > > Isham D. Kidwell born Jan. 30th, 1829 > Sar… A. (Sarah Ann Williams) Kidwell born June 25th, 1833 > M. P. (Milton Pitt) Hammer born March 13th, 1851 > Permelia S. (Kidwell) Hammer born Jan. 16th, 1863 > ……. Hammer born July .1th, 1885 > Annie B. Hammer born Feb 6th, 1887 > Leander I. Hammer born Feb. 10th, 1889 > Millie F. Hammer born Feb. 26th, 1891 > Ara. K. Hammer born Feb. 4th, 1892 > > Page Two > Blank > > Page Three > Feddie P. Hammer born April 3rd, 1895 > Joseph K. Hammer born Jan. 8th, 1899 > William M. Hammer born July 19th , 1901 > Elsie Susan Hammer born Oct. 7th, 1904 > Lucille M. Hammer born Aug. 27, 1907 > > Page Four > M.P. Hammer and P.S. (Kidwell) Hammer married May 31, 1884 > Annie B. Hammer & John F. Rhoton married Jan. 21, 1906 > Mollie F. Hammer & F. P. Walden married Jan. 21, 1906 > Ira Kate Hammer & Grover Cleverland Murphy married 19.. > Feddie Pitt Hammer & Lucy Emiline Gearlds married 1917 > Joseph Kidwell Hammer & Mary Ethel Davis married 1917 > William Monroe Hammer & Alice Bramam married 1920 > > > ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== > > >

Gary, In your e-mail message you didn't indicate how you were related to these folks, if at all.I am particularly interested because of the first name "Milton". Milton KIDWELL was born about 1815 in Kentucky. Some evidence exists that he was the son of Levi KIDWELL b. NC d. 1850 in Benton County MO. Levi and his wife were married in April 1812 in Madison County KY. Mikton was married to Lydia (Unknown) b. abt 1815 and lost an arm in a lumber mill accident in 1849 in Benton County MO. In 1850 he was enumerated with his wife, three daughters and a son in Tepo TWP. Henry County MO. Sometime between 1850 and 1860 his wife and eldest daughter died. Milton abandoned his remaining three children and went to California where he died in 1905. If any of this is familiar I would be most happy to share what I have about the KIDWELLs. I addressed this both to the South central list and to you personally because of the difficulties recently with rootsweb and AOL Walt Jones Spokane WA ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gary06074@aol.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:46 PM Subject: [SCKY] Hammer Bible records, Kidwell, Williams, others > These records are written on pages that are old and brittle with a few holes > through the middle. Printed at the top of the pages are "Scripture Memoranda" > and have old glue stains on the left side so I assume they came from a Bible. > Both Isham and Sarah, the grandparents were born in Monroe Co., KY as well as > the parents, Milton and Permelia. Most of the older children were born in > Missouri and the younger ones at Meshack, Monroe County, KY. I believe all the > children's marriages took place in Monroe County, KY. > Gary Pitcock, South Windsor, CT > > Page One > > Isham D. Kidwell born Jan. 30th, 1829 > Sar… A. (Sarah Ann Williams) Kidwell born June 25th, 1833 > M. P. (Milton Pitt) Hammer born March 13th, 1851 > Permelia S. (Kidwell) Hammer born Jan. 16th, 1863 > ……. Hammer born July .1th, 1885 > Annie B. Hammer born Feb 6th, 1887 > Leander I. Hammer born Feb. 10th, 1889 > Millie F. Hammer born Feb. 26th, 1891 > Ara. K. Hammer born Feb. 4th, 1892 > > Page Two > Blank > > Page Three > Feddie P. Hammer born April 3rd, 1895 > Joseph K. Hammer born Jan. 8th, 1899 > William M. Hammer born July 19th , 1901 > Elsie Susan Hammer born Oct. 7th, 1904 > Lucille M. Hammer born Aug. 27, 1907 > > Page Four > M.P. Hammer and P.S. (Kidwell) Hammer married May 31, 1884 > Annie B. Hammer & John F. Rhoton married Jan. 21, 1906 > Mollie F. Hammer & F. P. Walden married Jan. 21, 1906 > Ira Kate Hammer & Grover Cleverland Murphy married 19.. > Feddie Pitt Hammer & Lucy Emiline Gearlds married 1917 > Joseph Kidwell Hammer & Mary Ethel Davis married 1917 > William Monroe Hammer & Alice Bramam married 1920 > > > ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== > >

The Sept. 11, 1879 Glasgow Times had a more complete version of the shootout with moonshiners. This occurred near Bewleytown, at a spring branch of Dry Creek. Jim Ashford was from Allen county, but Willie Carver was a native of the Tracy area. PISTOL AGAINST SHOTGUN ------------------ Jim Ashford and Willie Carver Killed by J. A. Ray Our issue of last week contained but a meagre account of the terrible fight in Tracey precinct, between United States officers and moonshiners. This was unavoidable on account of the late arrival of the news and the thousand-and-one conflicting reports in circulation. The following, as near as we are able to gather, are the correct particulars. For some time past there has been much complaints from citizens of the neighborhood where the killing occurred concerning the distilling of whisky in their midst. It was a source of great annoyance and trouble, as even some of the boys were beginning to drink heavily. In this state of affairs, complaint was made, and this complaint reached the ears of Mr. J. A. Ray, Deputy Internal Revenue Collector stationed at Burksville, who thereupon determined on its suppression. Tuesday of last week, Mr. Ray, accompanied by two other men, went down into the Tracey country, and began a look-out for the moonshine. When near the place where the still was supposed to be situated they came upon a negro cabin, and fearing some one might leave the house and give the alarm, one of the men was left to guard the cabin and the horses, while Mr. Ray and by the name of Brannun prosecuted their search. Just after they had dismounted and gone forward, the man in charge of the horses says ! that he saw a fellow with a large, bushy beard skulking in the bushes, who, immediately on finding himself discovered; slipped off. It is supposed he carried the news of the officers' approach to the moonshiners, as a man answering this description was seen by Mr. Ray at the still. In the meantime, Mr. Ray and Mr. Brannun pushed on through the woods, and very suddenly came up in front of a cleared spot of ground, beyond which the still was situated. When they arrived at this point, there were several - a half-dozen or more - men standing around the door of the distillery. The two government men proceeded across the clearing, to a fence on the other side, near which the moonshiners were standing. As they approached a sullen silence was maintained, until clambering the fence, when Brannun called out, "Good evening, gentlemen." The second after, Jim Ashford, one of the owners of still, was seen bringing a shot gun to bear on the fence, when Ray and Brannun drew their pistols j! ust as Ashford fired. The muzzle of his gun was thrust almost against the forms of his antagonists, and the smoke of the discharge blackened their faces, but strange to say neither of the two men was hurt, although several shots passed through Ray's clothes. Mr. Ray fired almost at the same time, the ball from his pistol striking Ashford in the right side. Ashford sprang behind a tree, and exposed his left side as he leaned around the tree again taking aim at Mr. Ray, who thereupon shot him in the left side, sending the bullet almost squarely through his heart. Ashford fell forward - dead. Another man, who afterwards proved to be Willie Carver, had also opened fire on the officers, which Mr. Ray returned, shooting Carver twice, and mortally wounding him by a shot in the bowels. While all this was going on, Brannun was exchanging shots with another man, but owing to his pistol being of the old powder and cap kind, it hung fire and neither he nor the moonshiner had been hurt. Mr. Ray's attention being at last unengaged, he turned to Brannun's re! lief, when the man at whom they both fired, dropped his gun and fled. It is thought he was slightly wound in the leg. After the field was thus cleared, the officers hastily gathered together the guns of the moonshiners who had fallen and fled, and fearing that they would be attacked in overwhelming numbers, left. As they were riding off, they caught sight of the third fellow shot, lying in a fence corner, but as pursuit was anticipated, it was determined best not to encumber themselves by the arrest of wounded man. Jim Ashford, who was first killed, was regarded by all who knew him, as an utterly unprincipled, reckless sort of a man, more of bully, however, than a man of courage. He has figured very extensively, in government circles during the past year or two, as an informer and piloter of the U. S. officers and a witness against moonshiners in the Federal Court, and on his testimony several have been convicted. He has been in the illicit distilling business for some time past, and, it is said, had announced his intention of never being taken by the officers. Willie Carver was a young man of family above the average, and is spoken of as a good hearted, clever fellow, who paid the penalty of his only fault with his life. He was led off by Ashford, and gradually worked into the moonshine business. He died, on Wednesday of last week, the next day after being shot. Strange to say, nothing has ever been heard of the third man shot, although the officers are very certain three were wounded. It is probable that he got only a flesh wound, and is but too glad to conceal the part which he took in the affair. Ashford's body lay upon the ground where he was killed until next day, when he was hauled off and buried. Immediately after his body was removed, the fires were again lighted and the still put in operation, continuing to run until Constable Beam levied on it for some of the debts of Ashford. Nothing has since been done regarding the affair, not even an investigating trial being held. There is a very strong impression here that the officers acted only in self-defense - that it was kill or be killed. Mr. Ray, who is brought forward so prominently by this fight, is spoken of a cool, quiet, but fearless man, not in the least inclined to shirk his duty, whatever the consequences may be. He has behaved himself in a manner entirely different from the bullying conduct of the Deputy Marshals who were here some year or two ago, and is represented by those who have known him longest and best as a gentleman. He came into town after the killing, and declared himself ready for any sort of investigation which might be made. He then left for his home in Burksville, stating that at the first legal steps taken in the matter he would return and stand his trial. The whole affair was very unfortunate and much to be regretted, but in the light of testimony from both sides, seems to have been a battle for life, in which the quickest trigger and the surest aim won. >From the Glasgow Weekly Times, Sep. 11, 1879 ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Most of this edition was taken up by the Monroe Co boys winning honors in basketball tourney. Names cited in the article were D MILLER, L AGERS (Gamaliel); Igg CARTER of T'ville. Coach was Bing COSBY, Coach Jordan WHITE. The all-tourney squad included: LOWERY of Albany, HILL of Burkesville, E AGERS and HENSON of Gamaliel, BALDOCK of Summer Shade, F GOAD of Fountain Run, Tim FORD & Clifton CARTER of T'ville. Referee was Charlie VETTINER; Tournament Manager was Leon COOK. Photograph of the T'ville team showed Assistant Coach Darrell CARTER, Capt. Ned FORD, Cortez BUTLER, Morse WHITESIDES, Tim FORD, Clifton CARTER, Coach "Bing" COSBY, student manager Don MORE, Bethel BUTLER, Wick HARLAN, Cleotis BUTLER, Randall HAMMER, James ROUSE and Bruce SPILLMAN. Another photo shows Gamaliel's and includes Coach Jordan S WHITE, Denton MILLER, Capt. Edward AGERS, David HENSON, Clarence BELCHER, Robert MILLER, Cecil H LYON L(Principal), Paul ROUSE (student manager), Davide CROSS, Lester AGERS, Rex TURNER, Roy GRIDER, Roy DOWNING and Herman COMER (student manater),Edard AGERS (captain). Scottsville Editor, R R PITCHFORD, 64, Editor and Publisher of the Scottsville Citizen-Times suffered a heart attack 23 Feb and has been critically ill since that time. It is thought his condition is improving. Children are at his bedside. There was a fire on 24 Feb out the Otia grade - blaze came from burning sage grass on Cap HARLAN's place. Those indebted to the estate of C T STRODE decd requested to come forward and settle. Signed by Bethel BROWN, Executor. Same for the estate of R M TURNER by G C WEBB & L C TURNER, Administrators. Mr & Mrs Jack ROUSSEAU & Mr & Mrs Dan TAYLOR, all of Glasgow, were dinner guests of Mr & Mrs Robert REECER 25 Feb. 4-H Hustlers elected new officers, located in Mt Gilead. President: Hermon HARLAN. VP: Alden HAMMER. Secretary-Treasurer: Mary Katherine PEDEN. News reporter: Alicia BOWMAN. Stanley CONDER, manager of the T'ville Hatchery and G M NELSON field rep for Ralston Purina Co attended the regular meeting of adult farmers at Gamaliel High School 1 Mar. Gamaliel FFA holds banquet 28 Feb. Mrs Bennett MASTERS led; N M RAY, president. O E COMER Sr attended and spoke. Welcome by Rex TURNER. Response by J O TAYLOR. Creed read by Stanford MILLER. Reading: Nina May SMITH. Music by the string band. Reading: Ruth BEAN. Speech on agricultural situation by Dr M C FORD. Guests included: Paul LYON, Fred JOHNSON, David WALDEN, O E COMER, Sr, Ray HOLLAND, J S WHITE, Charles TAYLOR, S B BAXTER, Cecil LYON & J L ELLIS. Members present and their fathers: Clifton BRANDON, Brandsford BRANDON, James HOLLOWAY, W H HOLLOWAY, Stanley MILLER, Stanford MILLER, J W MILLER, James TAYLOR, J O TAYLOR, Rex TURNER, Voris PROFFITT, Hermn COMER, J J COMER, Roy GRIDER, N M RAY & Ernest TAYLOR. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

These records are written on pages that are old and brittle with a few holes through the middle. Printed at the top of the pages are "Scripture Memoranda" and have old glue stains on the left side so I assume they came from a Bible. Both Isham and Sarah, the grandparents were born in Monroe Co., KY as well as the parents, Milton and Permelia. Most of the older children were born in Missouri and the younger ones at Meshack, Monroe County, KY. I believe all the children's marriages took place in Monroe County, KY. Gary Pitcock, South Windsor, CT Page One Isham D. Kidwell born Jan. 30th, 1829 Sar… A. (Sarah Ann Williams) Kidwell born June 25th, 1833 M. P. (Milton Pitt) Hammer born March 13th, 1851 Permelia S. (Kidwell) Hammer born Jan. 16th, 1863 ……. Hammer born July .1th, 1885 Annie B. Hammer born Feb 6th, 1887 Leander I. Hammer born Feb. 10th, 1889 Millie F. Hammer born Feb. 26th, 1891 Ara. K. Hammer born Feb. 4th, 1892 Page Two Blank Page Three Feddie P. Hammer born April 3rd, 1895 Joseph K. Hammer born Jan. 8th, 1899 William M. Hammer born July 19th , 1901 Elsie Susan Hammer born Oct. 7th, 1904 Lucille M. Hammer born Aug. 27, 1907 Page Four M.P. Hammer and P.S. (Kidwell) Hammer married May 31, 1884 Annie B. Hammer & John F. Rhoton married Jan. 21, 1906 Mollie F. Hammer & F. P. Walden married Jan. 21, 1906 Ira Kate Hammer & Grover Cleverland Murphy married 19.. Feddie Pitt Hammer & Lucy Emiline Gearlds married 1917 Joseph Kidwell Hammer & Mary Ethel Davis married 1917 William Monroe Hammer & Alice Bramam married 1920

A very soggy Monday morning greeting - 2.3 inches of rain yesterday & last night and it would be a nice day to do nothing! Charlie has posted the puzzler for the week; click on the URL in my signature line called gensoup and give it a try - I think you'll find this one easy. The news clipping for the day is from The Washington Post, 10 Sept 1879: "A MAN FOR EACH MINUTE. "Deputy Collector RAY's Sharp Pistol Work Among Moonshiners. "The commissioner of internal revenue is in receipt of information, that, on the 2nd inst., Deputy Collector J. A. RAY met with a very serious encounter with moonshiners in Barren County, Ky. He and JOHN BRANNUM left Glasgow on the morning of that day to locate a still, and found it about 3 o'clock in the afternoon. Thinking they were not known they attempted to make a peaceful entrance, BRANNUM remarked, "Good evening, gentlemen". This was all that was said, when RAY saw a shot-gun pass from behind a still tub to a man behind a tree. As soon as the gun passed the man raised it and fired hastily, taking away half of RAY's hat brim. Before he could straighten for a second shot RAY drew his pistol and shot the man through the heart, killing his instantly. Another man jumped up from behind a still tub with his gun, but before he could level it RAY shot him down. Another party behind a tree had shot at BRANNUM with no effect, and as he was preparing for a third fire RAY shot him down. The moonshiners then ran. RAY had no time to examine the field; the whole time of the conflict was only three minutes, and he killing three men out of four shots. It was raining hard, and BRANNUM's pistol got wet and would not go off, so RAY had to do all the fighting. RAY's injuries were a bullet hole through the boot leg, and one through his pistol "scabard." BRANNUM's clothes were filled with buckshot holes. The parties were not more than ten feet apart. The fight was the sharpest that has occurred in that section of the county between moonshiners and revenue officials. The killed man's name was JAMES ASHFORD." Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Shown: name of child, status of child if orphaned, name of deceased parent, guardian, security(ies), date. RICHARDSON, Allen, Sam'l A: Orphans of Dudly Richardson, decd. Betsey M Richardson; Henry RENICK, 17 Jan 1814. RICHARDSON, Eliza A, Elizabeth, Felix A, Marion: Orphans of Felix A. Richardson; Meredith S. REYNOLDS; James B. JAMESON, 19 Nov 1839. RITTER, Jane: Daughter of John W. John TERRY guardian; no surety named, 15 Dec 1845. ROBERTS, Cassandra, Ermine: Orphans of Isaac W. Roberts, decd. Susan Roberts; Dillard G STARK, David Q McMICHEL & Jesse COOK; 21 Oct 1839. ROGERS, Edmonia T, orphan of Edmund Rogers, decd. John W BEAUCHAMP; John T ROGERS & John G ROGERS; 18 Dec 1843. ROGERS, Harriet E: Orphan of Theophilus Rogers. Geo ROGERS; John T. ROGERS, 15 Aug 1842. ROGERS, Theophilis. Orphan of Elizabeth ROGERS, decd. George ROGERS; Byrd/Bird (shown both) ROGERS; 18 May 1818. SANDERS, Benjamin, John, Joseph: Infant orphans of John Sanders, decd. Benjamin S CURD; John G DAVIS; 16 Feb 1846. SANSOM, Micajah: Infant orphan of Jacob SANSOM, decd. John LOCK; John CHAPMAN; 17 July 1837. SETTLE, Calpernia: Susan B SETTLE guardian; John G ROGERS, William BYBEE & E M BUTTON, sureties, 2 Feb 1857. SETTLE, Franklin B. Guardian: D B BARCLAY; sureties: Joseph W HOLMAN, John E ROGERS. Noted lived Rocky Hill; 2 Feb 1857. SETTLE, Lucinda: Guardian: James N DAVIS; sur: W N SETTLE & Wm A BUSH, 6 Apr 1857. SETTLE, Lucy, infant orphan of Joel Settle, decd. Thomas JAMES & John WARDER bound to Samuel RENICK, HAIDEN TRIGG & HENRY MILLER, JP's. 18 Jan 1808. SHANNON: Doctor David, Elihew, James T, John H, Joseph W, Sam'l A, Wm T: Guardian: John W SHANNON; securities: Samuel SHANNON, 14 Jan 1856. SHIRLEY, Mary A: Guardian: Anderson CRENSHAW; security: Henry PETTY, 17 Dec 1855. SKAGGS: Frederick, James, Martha, Thomas: Infant orphans of William Skaggs, decd. Abner BOSTON; William P MITCHELl & Henry SKAGGS; 1 Oct 1837. SLAYTON, Geo D, Henry, Martha, mary E, Rhoda A, Spicey: Guradian: Nancy H Slayton; securities: John C DEWEESE, 12 Oct 1858. to be continued next week with SMITH. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Dean, I wonder if that entry could be: Carpentry saw. With an abbreviation for 'carpentry.' Old timers were great at abbreviating stuff and by their own rules. If the o in the entry was really an a, it could be an abbreviation for 'carpentry,'or 'carpenter.' We may never know for sure. Hermit in the Woods, formerly crocket@ iglou. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Hunt" <deanhunt@bellsouth.net> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: RE:: [SCKY] Does anyone know > Might it be a Coping Saw? Used to make intricate and decorative cuts. > > M. Dean Hunt > Louisville, KY > > > > All, > > > > I have been transcribing an old will, and came across something > called a > > crossent saw. > > (it really looks written like Corpent saw)... > > > > Searched the web but really didnt find anything. > > > > Just curious, > > Gina > > > ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== > >

I've spent many hours trying to decipher mysterious words in old manuscripts and have occasionally had an "aha" experience when the squiggles reformed themselves into something I hadn't expected. In addition to "crosscut saw" and "bow saw," you might consider "buck saw" which is similar to a bow saw but usually has a wooden frame that is held with both hands. John

Might it be a Coping Saw? Used to make intricate and decorative cuts. M. Dean Hunt Louisville, KY > All, > > I have been transcribing an old will, and came across something called a > crossent saw. > (it really looks written like Corpent saw)... > > Searched the web but really didnt find anything. > > Just curious, > Gina

Could it be a bow saw? Looks like a half circle with a saw blade connecting the ends. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Huntin4hugheses@aol.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:28 PM Subject: [SCKY] Does anyone know what a crossent saw is? > All, > > I have been transcribing an old will, and came across something called a > crossent saw. > (it really looks written like Corpent saw)... > > Searched the web but really didnt find anything. > > Just curious, > Gina > > > ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== > >

Paul, If you think it's one of these bridges (Steubenville or East Liverpool), give me a name and I'll see if I can find anything for you next time I'm at the library and/or the courthouses. Linda >> This site lists the same two bridges built in 1905 over the Ohio river. http://oldohiobridges.com/Table.htm And gives links to maps. Brec ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brec Morton" <bmorton@kc.rr.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [SCKY] Ohio River Bridge This web site lists two suspension bridges built over the Ohio river during 1905. http://www.bridgemeister.com/list.php?type=decade&decade=190 One at Stubenville, Ohio and one at East Liverpool, Ohio. Brec ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Dwiggins" <p.dwiggins@worldnet.att.net> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: [SCKY] Ohio River Bridge Would anyone have any knowledge of a brigde built over the Ohio River between 1900 and 1905? Family tale, grandfather was killed working on one. I don't have a clue where, or how to find out IF this really happened as told. Any help appreciated. Thelma ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ====

This site lists the same two bridges built in 1905 over the Ohio river. http://oldohiobridges.com/Table.htm And gives links to maps. Brec ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brec Morton" <bmorton@kc.rr.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [SCKY] Ohio River Bridge This web site lists two suspension bridges built over the Ohio river during 1905. http://www.bridgemeister.com/list.php?type=decade&decade=190 One at Stubenville, Ohio and one at East Liverpool, Ohio. Brec ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Dwiggins" <p.dwiggins@worldnet.att.net> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: [SCKY] Ohio River Bridge Would anyone have any knowledge of a brigde built over the Ohio River between 1900 and 1905? Family tale, grandfather was killed working on one. I don't have a clue where, or how to find out IF this really happened as told. Any help appreciated. Thelma ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ====

Would anyone have any knowledge of a brigde built over the Ohio River between 1900 and 1905? Family tale, grandfather was killed working on one. I don't have a clue where, or how to find out IF this really happened as told. Any help appreciated. Thelma

This web site lists two suspension bridges built over the Ohio river during 1905. http://www.bridgemeister.com/list.php?type=decade&decade=190 One at Stubenville, Ohio and one at East Liverpool, Ohio. Brec ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Dwiggins" <p.dwiggins@worldnet.att.net> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 8:37 PM Subject: [SCKY] Ohio River Bridge Would anyone have any knowledge of a brigde built over the Ohio River between 1900 and 1905? Family tale, grandfather was killed working on one. I don't have a clue where, or how to find out IF this really happened as told. Any help appreciated. Thelma ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ====