This was forwarded from another list - from the State of Missouri. I have found death certificates on line I've been hunting for. Some are on line, some are not, but the dates and names are there. It's wondrous if you have family - which I do! Check out the online databases from the Secretary of states office. > Information you won't find with search engines. > > Indian Wars forward are included > http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/soldiers/ > > Death Certificates: > http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/ > > Coroner's records (limited counties) > http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/coroners/#search > Then - after you get thru playing with this and we are under another tornado watch. I might be hit and miss on the computer the next few weeks, not by choice! My opthomologist dropped the other shoe this morning, which I knew was coming - I go in next Wed for some testing and then will have two eye surgeries - that dreaded kind for those of us who are getting older. I don't know the dates of the surgeries - or how far apart - but he said if I don't have it done, I won't be able to see the computer monitor or drive much longer. Ill give you a heads up when I'm off-line and have someone on the list monitoring for me in case of trouble. I don't know how long I shouldn't be staring at the computer screen! Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

COPELIN: Benjamin? (paper creased & not clear on microfilm), 63 yr, 6 mos, 2 days, single, born Garrett [sic] Co KY, northside, s/o John & Mary (Rockbridge- Bedford Co VA), dropsy, 22 Oct 1861. Mary, 82 yrs, 11 mos, 10 days, married, born Bedford Co VA, northside, d/o Ezekiel & Rachel DOWNING (Ireland, Bedford Co VA), pneumonia, 12 Feb 1861. Nancy A - also shown as COPELAND, 17, single, d/o Thomas & Jane (KY- Grayson Co KY), measles, 10 Jan 1875. Nancy S, 16, single, d/o Thomas & Jane (KY-KY), measles. "Afflicted from birth but could talk up to 2-3 yrs old, became dumb but still could hear, but helpless, 15 Jan 1874. Error in date - same person? CORDER, William W, 23 yrs, 6 mos, married, s/o Benjamin & Mary A, north side, typhoid, 18 Dec 1854. COSBY: Charles M, 1 yr, 9 mos, s/o Charles L & Martha E, northside, brain imflamation, 13 Nov 1854. John, 9 days, born Barren Co, mother was a HARLOW?, unknown, 18 Oct 1852. Slave Molly, 3, born Green Co, slave of Mary Jane Cosby, northside, croup, 6 Sep 1858. COTTRELL/COTTRILL: Hannah, 58, married, d/o Levi & J JAGGERS (TN-KY), heart dropsy, 29 Nov 1876. John R, 20, single, s/o G W & M E (KY-KY), spinal affliction, 1 May 1892. No First Name, 0 age, female, d/o G W & M E (KY-KY), unknown, 12 May 1892. COWHERD, James S, 19 yrs, 3 mos, 23 days, married, farmer & blacksmith, born Green Co, s/o Simeon & Sally, south side, dysentary, 1 Feb 1857. COX: Frances, 67, widow, born KY, d/o D S & Sallie CAVE (VA-VA), flux, Sept 1904 James, 76 yrs, 1 mo, 25 days, married, northside, born SC, typhoid, 3 Apr 1861 Kate, 32, coded male, married, d/o P & S KIRT___ (Barren, Barren), congestive chills, 21 June or July 1892. Mary, 70 yrs, 2 mos, widow, d/o Richard & Mary OBAR, born SC, northside, old age, 15 Sept 1858. Mary Ann, 44, married, d/o John & Margaret M COX, northside,flux, 28 Aug 1854 (shown married but parents have same last name). No First, 4 mos, male, s/o Gabriel & Mary, northside, flux, 12 Aug 1854. No First, 2 days, male, s/o John B & Louisa (KY-KY), unknown, 12 Apr 1876 CRADDOCK: J B, 85, male, married, born KY, s/o W N & Annie (KY-KY), old age, June 1904 Lavina/Louisa, 22, married, d/o Adam & Nancy MILLER, dropsy, 15 Nov 1852 Martha E, 1 mo & 10 days,d/o John M & Mahala, northside, brain inflamation, 23 Mar 1857 Wiley B, 23 yrs, 2 mos, 12 days, teacher & clerk, s/o Samuel & Elizabeth, northside, kidney disease, 13 Apr 1854. William G, no age, farmer, single, s/o James & Nancy, southside, 17 July 1859 William H, 1 yr & 4 mos, s/o A G & Virginia, northside, croup, 23 Aug 1856 William P, 1 yr & 6 days, s/o A G & Virginia, northside, flux, 23 Aug 1857 to be continued next week. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Present: David HUDSPETH, Gladin GORIN and John MARSHALL. Ordered that Jacob PEALE be appt Surveyor of the road from the mouth of Clifty on Barren River to Burwell JACKSON's mile on Gasper River; all hands on the west side to the Logan Co line to attend him except John JACKSON. Ordered that James REED, James DOUGAN, John WREN and Mr. BALLARD view for a road from the Warren Co courthouse to the Logan Co line on the most direct route to Clarksville. Ordered that Ragland LANGSTON, John WILLIAMS, John ESTES Jr and WIlliam SWEARING view for a road from the courthouse to Tolliver CRAIG's mill on Bays Fork instead of the former individuals appt. Ordered that George GREEN, Mark REAVIS, Aron ARMSTRONG and Elias McFADIN view for a road from where the road is now cut that leads from Isaac CRAWFORD's, crossing Barren River to the mouth of Bays Creek, intersecting the road that leads to Nashville from the Horse Shoe Bend. Finis COX stands security to Polly STUMP, late widow and administratrix to Frederic STUMP; she to be summoned to the next County Court to give counter security. Session continued to the next day, present John ROUNTREE. Report of Thomas CHAPMAN's mill seat. Jury founds that a Mr. DAGNEY's land would be damaged to the amount of 20 shilling. Those on the jury were: Thompson BRIGGS, Jesse BOYCE, James LINDSEY, James McWILLIAMS, James WREN, David KEARBY, Edward BURNE, William ALLISON, Hardy ALLARD, John WREN, Thomas LOWRY,John CANVAS?. LEWIS vs MOORE - appeal dismissed. Thompson BRIGGS came into court and made oath that William CASE's certificate for three pounds and four shillings for a campaign against the Wabash Indians in his possession, has never ben put in the hands of the Sheriff or Collectory; was in his hands 1 Nov 1799. Ordered that Jacob GOODEN be exempt from paying county levy for 1799. Ordered that William CHAPLINE, Clerk, be paid $20 for his services. Adjourned. The next entry bears the same date so might have gotten out of order by the WPA typists. To be shown next week. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I cannot remember now where I read or heard this, but I remember hearing that no matter how backward a community was, there were always people who loved to play croquet. Go figure. Peggy Ray

At the small country club we belong to there is still the cement curbs around what use to be five lighted "Roque" courts. The old timers tell me this was a difficult form of croquet and played on clay courts. In the evening and Sunday afternoons in the 30's maybe even 20's and early 40's the men dressed in their suits, ties and straw hats played while their adoring wife's watched. (they said adoring) after golf became popular the courts where turned to grass for coquet the kids & women played and finally to cement for tennis. At that time women were not allowed to golf on weekends. Now us adoring wife's play golf with our husbands and kids. Donna

Alene, the mystery of the croquet court probably hinges on an early liking by Americans for what was essentially a British pasttime. The game was big also in India and some of the rest of the Empire. The well dressed players wore game-specific clothing, usually with knickers, lightweight shoes and kid gloves. Americans were still playing the game on a wide scale in the 1920s, but the economic crash of 1929 almost certainly put a crush on inviting a couple of dozen players on Sunday and feeding them lunch and sometimes dinner. Even some upscale families were having a hard time from the moment the Great Depression started. I don't believe I have seen a court at a school, but they were fairly common at churches and at club houses.The rising popularity of golf also must have cut into croquet playing. The game in the 1930s seems to have all but fizzled out. I love the game and if I had a spot for a court, I would put one in today. It is a dignified outing and challenging enough to hold one's interest. As a young journalist I edited the Middlesborough, KY newspaper and liked very much the English flavor of the town. It was founded by a congregation of rich Englishmen and everything was done by the English rules...extra wide streets, common English names applied to streets, buildings with much of the architecture of earlier London. The second oldest golf course in the US is located in Middlesborough and at one time it had a croquet court for the ladies, who didn't play golf in those days. The innovations in the game abound, but it still calls for many of the skills of golfing, especially skillful shooting, putting and driving. The court you mention must have been put there quite a long time ago, perhaps at the height of the craze in the 1880-90s. It wasn't uncommon and still isn't for a community to do something creative in the way of entertainment. Tompkinsville, KY has a modern day grand marble field, where grown men and grandfathers and a few ladies still play the game at the championship level. It did not cost much to build and has entertained thousands over the years. Now...... if someone would only make a place for me to play my game...mumble-peg. Hermit in the Woods ----- Original Message ----- From: <alenebrad@aol.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:02 PM Subject: [SCKY] Croquet > Many years ago I went to grade school at a one room school house, Blair's School, in south central Kentucky. No, this was not a five mile walk uphill both ways. However, it was a good long walk. Blair's School was probably built sometime in the 1800's. My question is this: Back behind the school there was a croquet field,

In the city where I was raised, Columbus, Indiana, our local park (Donner Park) had several Croquet Courts. The retangular courts were sunken about a foot into the ground with a concrete curbing completely surrounding the court. The wickets were permanent steel. We played croquet regularly when we went to the park. You could rent mallets and balls at the park concession stand if you didn't bring your own. We had many a family reunion at this park. _Ar2BurnTree@aol.com_ (mailto:Ar2BurnTree@aol.com) Michael N. Arterburn 210 Marywood Avenue Claremont, CA 91711 1-800-350-5445 Ar2BurnTree@aol.com

Many years ago I went to grade school at a one room school house, Blair's School, in south central Kentucky. No, this was not a five mile walk uphill both ways. However, it was a good long walk. Blair's School was probably built sometime in the 1800's. My question is this: Back behind the school there was a croquet field, lawn, or court. I don't know what they are called. I cannot imagine who would have built this there in such a small place or where the idea came from. This has puzzled me a lot over the years. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Alene

42 local men enter service in April; Army accepts 33 white men; 6 choose Navy: The six joining the Navy are: Cecil Earl BOWMAN, William Ancil THOMPSON, Glendale Wayne BEAN, Solomon Eli DAVIS, Randall Lee ENGLAND & Clyde James JACKSON. Edlie Odell CROWE accepted for premeteorological training. The 33 entering the Army are: Wallace D MOORE, Harley T PITCOCK, Ronald S KINGERY, Albert D CLARKSON, Delmas M TOOLEY, James W SAVAGE, Raymond H KEYS, Mills O FISHER, Ira L HALL, James F ARTERBURN, Robert V WHEELER, Kenneth D GOAD, Alden H HAMMER, Louis A RICH, Hascal COPASS, Alvin L CURTIS, Henry E FORD, Fred BROWN, Floyd HALE, John T BUTLER, Samuel T BRAY, Harl JACKSON, Arther R WALDEN, Don W MILLER, James E HAMMER, Joe PARSLEY, Ernest H HUME, Alfred P BARLOW, Earl C EMBERTON, Henry G FORD, Warnie TURNER, Carlos HUNT, Julius Smith CROWE. Two black draftees were Dentis HOWARD and Harry Louis CHISM. Garden Club Unit II met at home of Mrs Oakley GARMON. Cited were Mrs David WALDEN, Bewley BOONE, Ruth McCREARY. Candidate for Secretary of State is Mayor Fred L WEIR of Owensboro; a native of T'ville. Sunrise service at Oak Hill Cemetery with all churches taking part. Rev S L PRUITT & Rev Holman COWHERD presiding. Pupils present recital - music students of Mrs F V HARWOOD. Names cited: Doyle WILLIAMS, Hettie Lou HAGAN, Louise WRIGHT, Bonnie Jean COPASS, Coleen GILL, Ruth JACKSON, Robert CRAWFORD, Kenneth BARTLEY, Starley WIDNER, Martha ROSS, Jackie HOPPER, Billie Jean McMEANS, Eleanor McCREARY, Ruth McCREARY, Sarah MARRS, Lorain YOKLEY, Rudolf FRIML, Billie Jean McMEANS, Colleen GILL, Hettie Lou HAGAN, Oley SPEAKS, Pearl G CURRAN, Edn Ruth SIMS, Oscar ROSBACH, Jackie HOPPER, Carl HAHN, Elenor McCREARY, Sarah MARRS, Will L THOMPSON, Sarah MARRS. Mr & Mrs James OLIVER of Mt Hermon entertained with a buffet supper 7 Apr in honor of Mr. Oliver's birthdy. Present were: Mr & Mrs: John RICHEY, Wallace PEDEN, Mr W N BURGESS and daughter Pauline, Mr & Mrs C W BAXTER, Mr & Mrs J N OLIVER and boys WIlbur and Charles David and Eugene SMITH. Out of town guests were Mr & Mrs Dan MASTERS and children, Mr & Mrs Cordell MASTERS, Ms O N CHERRY of Celina TN. Divorce granted in Circuit Court of A L FAIN from Lattie FAIN. Graduates of T'ville school: Runelle BARTLEY, Marioin BOOTHE, Lenver BOWMAN, Margie CARDER, Levonne CARTER, Delms CROWE, Evelyn DICKEN, Mack DICKERSON, Wilm EUBANK, Calvin HAMMER, Vida HAMMER, Elizabeth HARLAN, Leston HOOD, Neva Nellie MARTIN, Vivian PITCOCK, Dora POLAND, Paul POLAND, Mary RAY, Juanita RUSH, Georgie Katherine SMITH, Rex SMITH, Mildred WALLER, Edmund WEBB, Morene WILLIAMS, Louise WHITE. Gamaliel graduates: Ottie ARTERBURN, Wilma ARTERBURN, Willi Dean BALLARD, Ray BILLINSLEY, Eva Ann BROOKS, Geneva Jane BROOKS, Nancy BROWNFIELD, Geneva BURESS, Lillian BUTLER, Avo BLANKENSHIP, Jean COMER, Harry DOWNING, Hugh Mills DUNCN, Ruby GASS, Drexel HOLLOWAY, Thelma MILLER, Lorene PROFFITT, Willadean PROFFITT, Beatrice SIMPSON, Dorothy SMLLING, Orbra SMALLING, Marie TURNER, Virgini WEST, Vallie WILKERSON, Catherine WILSON. Fountain Run: J Hugh BEAM, D G CREEK, Ruby Gordon CREEK, Ruby Gordon CREEK, Delma Ree EMBERTON, William Stanley LYON, & Edgar Louis PROFFITT. The remainder of the paper dealt with the war effort - saving tin for Uncle Sam. A series of cartoons on how tin helps. 3 salvaged cans will make a hand grenade. One tin can will make a pair of binoculars. A family of four saving its cans for 2 weeks will save enough tin to supply metal for a portable flame thrower. A month's saving will make the bushings for 3 machine guns. A diagram was shown on how to smash the cans. There was also a note that old kitchen grease is war material, save every spoonful. I remember those days - though young! Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Ok..I've sat here and read all this...and wasn't going to say anything...but now I can't help it! HA! Up until the 6th grade, I grew up in a 2 room house. I remember daddy ADDING the kitchen part. When my half sisters grew up there, it was only a ONE room house. In one room was beds and a woodstove and a chiffarobe. And mama's big and small cedar chests. When daddy added the kitchen, it contained a gas stove, kitchen table, the big cedar chest, a refridgerator and a table by the fridge that held the water bucket and dipper. The outhouse was about 20 yards from the house at the edge of the back of the property. I remember daddy putting lime in it yearly. We took our baths in a #3 tub, where you had to bend your head into the tub to wash your hair. Mama use to put the whole tub with some water in it on the stove to heat with my older brother's help. When it was boiling, they'd take it down and add cold water to it. We heated those 2 rooms by a woodstove that daddy built and put in the corner of the original room. Mama washed her dishes in a small dishpan, that sat next to the water bucket & dipper...the water which she also heated on the stove. We had electricity, and gas..but not running water. My oldest brother was sent a mile down the road with his little red wagon and an old silver beer keg to get water from the nearest store where daddy was friends with the owner. We didn't get running water on the property until I was about 10 or 11 years old. We never had a phone or air conditioning in southern Alabama...but growing up there...we got use to the weather. We took our clothes to the laundromat...what mama didn't wash out by hand. Or on a scrub board. I didn't know what it WAS to take a real bath in a real tub until I was married at 18. What little we needed a phone, we used the neighbors. Bless them. While dad built a cinder block house when I was in the 6th grade..shortly thereafter, him and mama divorced. But even then, we never had central heat, still no AC...and daddy never did have a working hot water heater in that place for long. So..while there was actually a tub and running water...the only bath we could take would be cold showers...unless we STILL heated the water...for the regular tub. I'm not that old. I was born in 1959..and this is how "I" grew up. With chamber pots and impetigo and when I started school, Alabama didn't even require vaccinations for the kids. I still don't know how we survived. The only 3 times I ever remember ANY of us going to the doctor was when daddy chopped his knee cap with an ax, then a couple years later, my mom got in a car wreck and the car turned over on her arm, and one year my oldest brother was riding on the tractor with daddy and got knocked off by a tree limb under the tractor discs and ended up with a partially collapsed lung. We never went to the doctor or dentist..I never had any of my shots until I joined the AirForce in 1978. God wasn't just watching out for me honey...he had me wrapped up in his robe! HA! Love ~Carol

My nephew lives in Gibson County Tennessee and they had major damage to their home. Barn gone and all their trees are down. My brother lives in Skullbone which is close to Bradford TN. They said that Bradford looked like a war zone. A family of 4 who lived close to them was killed. Several more deaths have been reported. The storms ripped through Knoxville in East TN around 8 last night but no major damage has been reported. More storms this morning about 5:00 AM. Mary June

They were also called slop Jars. We had one!!!!!!!!!!!! I am telling you all something, these younger people just don't know what they are missing. Sometimes I tell my grandchildren how things were when I was growing up and they can't believe it. We wore hand-me-down clothes (now they go to the thrift stores) which was traumatic to me. During the war, so many things were rationed. Two pair of shoes a year and when they had holes in the sole, we took them to the shoe shop to be "half-soled". Sugar, coffee, meat as well as other things were rationed and you had ration books you took to the stores to get these items. I don't know that the old days were the "good old days" but it sure makes you thankful for what we have today. Another thing that some people had in "the good old days" was a water bucket and dipper. Everyone who came to visit and wanted a drink, used the same dipper. It is a wonder that we survived!!!!!!!! Mary June

We always called this a chamber pot. Ours was more like a bowl than a jar or jug and had a lid. I still have the one that belonged to my grandmother and every time I look at it the memories come back of having to empty it in the morning. Not a pleasant chore. Cathy

I still have my grandmother's thunder jug, but I keep flowers in it now <g> Still brings back memories though! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim & Helen Stanford" <hkotm@ipa.net> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: [SCKY] covered pot under the bed > This was called a "thunder mug/jug." It sure was better than facing the > spiders and snakes. Of course emptying the jug in the morning was not a > favorite chore. > > > ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== > >

I'm wondering if any of you can help me. I need help locating the old homesteads of the CARNEY and ADWELL families who once lived on the road to Crystal Cave, on Flint Ridge. I've hiked the ridge for the past two weekends without much luck. I'm told that the Chimney is still standing on the Carney homestead, but I couldn't find it. I've probably walked over it, but I want to be sure. A map I have shows the Carney land in the wrong place. My father remembers going there, but he's not able to remember much, or go with me to help find it. Sincere Thanks Tonya Carney Archey http://www.wku.edu/~tonya.archey/

While fighting to get my eyes open today ... many of us in TN, KY, IL, MO, AR .... spent a lot of time watching the weather last night as tornadoes ripped through and warnings flew. I have not heard all the reports but know that in this area, tornadoes were on the ground in Logan, Warren, Christian (Hopkinsville) and other counties. The last time I checked the clock it was 2:30 am and it was still thundering and lightning constantly. Charlie has posted the puzzler for the week (for which I thank him); you might give it a try. Click on the URL in my signature line called gensoup and it'll take you to the "puzzle page". I think we have exhausted the topic of outside privies etal and can let the subject rest now. It was an interesting discussion and I think the question has been answered satisfactorily. Many of my generation remember them quite well without too much fondness .... See you tomorrow ... Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

On the 20th day of Dec 1834 came Jacob GIBSON, a citizen of said Barren Co and made his declration: He enlisted as a private soldier in the service of the United States in the Revolutionary War with Great Britain on the 24th of September 1777 for three years at the Faquier Courthouse, VA in Capt. Elis EDWARDS company of Artillery in the 2nd VA Regiment of Artilery which at his discharge was commanded by Colonel Thomas MARSHALL on Continental Establishment. He faithfully served out the 3-year term and was honorably discharged at Richmond VA about 24 Sept 1780. Afterwards he had the misfortune of having his house burned and his discharge was burned with it. During his service he was in the battle near Campden in South Carolina where Baron De KOLB was killed; was also at Little York at the surrender of CORNWALLIS but he then acted as a militia man. He has always been on the side of the coutry and never against her. He wishes the benefit of the Act of Congress passed 18 Mar 1818 entitled an Act to provide for certian persons engaged in the Land and Navil [sic] service of the United States, he is in reduced circumstances and stands in need of the assistance of the Country for suport; He is now in the 69th year of his age. He produced the following statements. He was a resident of the US on 18 Mar 1818. He has no income other than what is contained in the below schedule. Due to my service he had infirmities being his right rist [wrist] & the contraction of my fingers on my left hand by a rising. He was a farmer but unable to labor for his living. His family onsists of my wife who is about 64 years old, puny and infirm and a grandson named Harris Carter, about 11 years old and own no other property other than: Two cows and calves and one heifer: $13.50 14 head of hogs: $15.75 Two beds: $25.00 Mare, saddle and bridle: $37.50 Household furniture: $10 Plow, axes and one pair drawing chains: $2.50 for a total of $104.25 It was proved by his testimony and two credible witnesses (not named) and ordered to be recorded. (Barren Co Minute Book 4, p. 378.) to be continued next week. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

This was called a "thunder mug/jug." It sure was better than facing the spiders and snakes. Of course emptying the jug in the morning was not a favorite chore.

Is the fact of Luna for women also the reason the British call it the LU? John

From The Word Detective http://www.word-detective.com/072999.html Incidentally, in case you folks out there were just warming up your ballpoints to write and ask where the term "loo" came from, I have some bad news: no one knows for sure. The most likely theory traces it to the French noun "lieu" (place), possibly from a shortening of the phrase "lieux d'aisance," meaning "places of comfort" (or "comfort stations"). Brec John wrote: "Is the fact of Luna for women also the reason the British call it the LU?" ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ====