As most of you have heard today, a Conair (Delta) flight crashed after takeoff at the Lexington Airport. Apparently, but not confirmed, the pilot somehow took off from the wrong runway, a 3,000+ foot one used only in daytime for general aviation, instead of the 7,000 ft runway. No reports have been issued as to the dead as many family members have not been notified, but 49 were killed; one flight attendant (not a steward) is in critical condition and has been in surgery at the U of K Hospital. They have only released the names of the pilots and stewardess and one couple - a basketball player who returned home and was married last night to a Parsley girl. All air deaths are scary - as are any accidents where a great number of people are killed; this one hit home as this is the exact flight my newly wed daughter and her husband took from Atlanta to Lexington on the 9th. We have family flying today to London .... and as a former pilot, I know the risks. But, we are all mourning the loss of lives this morning and send our love and prayers to the families. And for all you in the now tropical storm path - wherever it might be - that it will not upgrade to a hurricane again! Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I just posted the obituary of Joseph Anthony "Jaybird" LOGSDON who died here Saturday, 19 Aug 2006. Mr. Logsdon was born 10 Oct 1959 and was the son of the late Joseph Andrew and Hattie Pearl Gulley Logsdon. Something made Mr. Logsdon's funeral noteworthy here & happened Wednesday. As I was coming home from running errands Wed, I turned behind Hatcher and Saddler Funeral Home and saw a red horse-drawn wagon sitting at the back of the funeral home parking lot. A few hours later, this same wagon stopped in front of my house with the driver talking to my neighbor across the street, pulled by two beautiful palomino horses. I went outside to see the horses and nodded to the driver and his wife and they went on their way. Later, on my way to church, I noted the wagon across the street from Hatcher and Saddler and a horse trailer in which the horses had been loaded. I wondered why the wagon and horses were by Hatcher and Saddler and in last night's paper, received my answer. As reported in the Glasgow Daily Times, Joseph Logsdon never wanted to ride in a hearse. So family members came up with an alternate means to take his remains to the cemetery. His casket was loaded onto a horse-drawn wagon for the journey from Hatcher and Saddler to the Glasgow Municipal Cemetery. Mr. Logsdon loved horses and rode frequently with his son. So a friend of Mr. Logsdon's was called and agreed to bring his wagon to the funeral home. Ricky Cary and his wife Anita hitched up the horses by Hatcher and Saddler and led the procession to the cemetery. Also with the casket was Mr. Logsdon's riding saddle and cowboy hat. In the days of yore, this would have been a common occurence but in the year 2006, it was a touching tribute by a son for his father. The picture appeared on the front page of the Times last night, but is not shown on their on-line edition. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

LOGSDON: ____, 9, female, d/o James O & Catharine, typhoid, 31 Aug 1852 Atmitia J, 9, female, d/o John C & Martha, northside, flux, 12 Aug 1856 Boaz, 67, married, s/o Thomas, 12 Sept 1877 Charles L, 7 weeks, no parents shown, 11 Jan 1877 Ella, 2, d/o James H & Mary, measles, Mar 1852 Emma S, 5, d/o G W & Luvica, northside, flux, 19 Sept 1857 G W, 81, widower, s/o J A & Sallie (KY-KY), paralysis, Apr 1904 Green M C, 11 mos, 15 days, northside, s/o James W & Martha E (Hart- Green), croup, 13 Mar 1861. James O, 7, s/o John & Martha, northside, flux, 9 Aug 1856. Jonathan S, 17, single, s/o D J & Nancy (KY-KY), bowel inflamation, 16 Mar 1874. Kizziah, 72, married, d/o Jacob & Elizabeth SELSER, 17 Oct 1875. Martha A, 29, married, d/o Garland WAINE & Nancy LOGSDON (KY-KY), childbirth, 5 Oct 1874. (Waine/Wayne a middle name or last name?) Martha L, 2, d/o G W & Lucy (KY-KY), worms, 12 July 1874. Mary, 2, born IA, d/o James H & Mary, measles, Mar 1852 Mattie W, 22 mos, d/o Peter D & N E (KY-KY), 15 Dec 1874. Nancy, 2, d/o Ed & Jane, northside, chills, 30 Dec 1856. Nancy A, 1, d/o Thomas J & Mary, northside, flux, 10 Aug 1856 Nancy A, 88, widow, born Madison Co, d/o George W & M H JONES (VA- VA), cancer, 10 Feb 1877. No First, 3 mos, male, s/o Archibald & Lucinda, northside, whooping cough, 18 July 1854. No First, 1 day, male, s/o Vanburen & Sarah, northside, premature, 11 July 1858. No First, 4 days, male, s/o Joseph & Armilda, northside, premature, 16 Sept 1858. No First, 7 mos, s/o Thomas J & M A (KY-KY), 18 Aug 1874. No First, 0 age, s/o Dennis & M A (KY-KY), 3 Oct 1874. No First, Stillborn, male, s/o B H & M J (KY-K), 15 Oct 1876. Rosa Ann, 2 yrs, 7 mos, 15 days, northside, d/o William J & Malinda (Hart- Hart), croup, 1 Mar 1861. Sarah, 5, d/o James O & Catherine, worms, 3 Sept 1852. W H, 4, male, s/o William A & Melinda, northside, brain inflamation, 16 Dec 1856 William D, 46, single, s/o Joseph & Mary H (KY-KY), consumption, 20 Sept 1876. LONG: Andrew, 45 yrs, 6 mos, 15 days, married, farmer & Baptist preacher, born Hardin Co, southside, s/o Andrew & Elizabeth, lumbo spinal and menengitis, 20 Feb 1854. Elizabeth, 25, single, d/o John & A E (KY-VA), consumption, 10 Feb 1874. Henry, 1, s/o A B & Lucy F, southside, brain inflamation, 22 Oct 1867. Joseph C, 6 mos, resided & died Larue Co, s/o William H & Jemima (Hart- Larue, spasms, 28 Mar 1877. Louisa, 57, married, farmer, d/o James G & Susan PULLIAM (VA-VA), dropsy, 25 Aug 1876. No First, 7 days, male, northside, s/o John & Analiza (Hardin-Monroe), premature, 27 May 1861. Sarah E, 20 yrs, 1 mo, 14 days, single, northside, d/o Andew & Nancy (Hardin- Hart), heart dropsy, 13 Jan 1861 LOWRY, James F, 45, married, stone mason, born Sullivan Co TN, died St Louis MO, s/o John & Sarah, pneumonia (winter fever), 31 June 1857. LOYALL, Elizabeth, 40, married, s/o John & P LIGHT (VA-VA), dropsy, 20 June 1876. LOYAL, Sarah L, 3 mos, d/o James & Elizabeth (KY-KY), measles, 30 Nov 1874 LUSH, Elizabeth, 53, no marital status shown, born Washington Co KY, d/o Charles & Mary GREENVILLE, northside, consumption, 08 July 1858. L____, _____, 36, female, married, parents not shown but they both born Hart Co, childbirth, 10 or 16 Sept 1893. to be continued next week (hopefully!) with MANION. Sandi

As you may have noted, I have not been able to post anything to this list since Monday. I have been working with the Help Desk at rootsweb but they didn't solve the problem. I finally figured it out on my own due to total frustration. The South-Central-Kentucky list, KYBIOGRAPHIES and KYRESEARCH are very old lists, pre rootsweb into rootsweb over 10 years ago. These lists were set up differently from what the newer lists are - they never required the -L to be part of the address. With all the changes going on, no one informed me that now I have to have that -L in the address. I have been sending msgs but they have come back to me saying that the list didn't exist. I started playing around with them, put an -L in the address and they were delivered. Now, the fun part. After these lists are "migrated" to the new system of some time (the migration was stopped and the previous schedule no longer applies) ... it will revert back to not having to put the -L in the address - just like it has been for 10 yrs. I'll not know until I see if the msg is delivered or bounced back to me. So - I'm sorry that there have been no posts. I just sent out the Monroe Co and Allen Co post and will do Hart Co deaths later this afternoon. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Shown is head of household, acres owned, location of land based on nearest waterway. RITCHIE, Andrew C, 100 acres, Barren River RITCHIE, William, 81 acres, same RANSOM, James, 100 acres, B Creek; 50 acres same RITCHIE, George, 75 acres, W Creek RITCHIE, Alexander Sr, no land RITCHIE, Alexander Jr, no land; 4 lots in Scottsville RANSOM, Richd, no land READ, Theophilus, 424 acres, B Fork RIGSBY, Daniel, no land REA, Jeremiah M, no land RAY, William, 112 1/2 acres, B Fork RAY, Mary, 112 1/2 acres, B Fork RITCHIE, Henry, no land RITCHIE, Samuel, 100 acres, Difficult; 8 aces same RANDEL, William, 19 acres, L Creek RUSH, John, 124 aces, L Creek; 15 aces same RANDEL, John, no land RANDEL, Thomas, 151 acres, L Creek RANDEL, Joseph, 160 acres, L Creek RICKMAN, Thomas, no land RYALS, Isham?, 50 acres, Difficult ROSE, John C, believe 1 lot in Scotsville RIGSBY, John, 67 acres, B Fork; 100 acres same to be continued next week. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Continuation from last week. Miss Laura COUNTS recently whitewashed the fence between the Counts Hotel & the livery stable. She is one of those sensible young ladies who knows that honest labor is honorable. Besides milking cows and feeding hogs, cultivating the garden & assisting in household duties, she owns & operates a large millinery & ladies' department store.Madison D KEFAUVER, father of David & Al, will remain here with his sons until the abatement of smallpox at Leitchfield, his home. He has never borrowed a cent in his live, never owed a cent, never went any man's security, never gave security. Man of considerable wealth which is all the results of honest labor. Strictly religious, 80 years old & since retirement his favorite pasttime is giving young people advice & instructions in the right way of getting on in life. Hon. Joe H EAGLE appointed general attorney of the Gulf, Beaumont & Northern Railroad per Houston's Post. Joe was born & raised here, character was idealistic and without blemist. T P EVANS is crowded with buggies and surries now, will sell cheap. Best superior wheat drill also sold; his is the place to buy National Fertilizer, has about 700 bushels on hand. D. KEFAUVER & Co has 300 pair of shoes & slippers to close out. T K CHISM has the best line of ladies' sash buckles & collar clasps ever found in T'ville. J T RHOTEN's is the cheapest grocery house in T'ville. Call at Miss Laura COUNS' Millinery Store - dress goods, trimmings & notions; you'll also find Mrs Emma MAXEY, the leading dressmaker there. "Any person wishing to purchase a monument or grave stone of any style or design can save agent's profit and long distance freights by appling to Messrs. BARR and DIXON, Tompkinsville." J E POYNTER selling up-to-date mill, all modern improvements, will pay highest market prices for wheat & corn. G S PAGE is having a well dug at his hotel. Mrs Marcus EAGLE is furnishing excellent music for the Institute. W H GLAZEBROOK will soon complete the brick work on his fine residence. W L MARRS of Mud Lick recently had a fine milk cow killed by lightning. A little child of Smith SHIRLEY's of Mud Lick, died last Tuesday morning. The late arrival at James COULTER's is a fine boy, born last Sunday evening. Misses Beulah & Laten BARR of Fountain Run are visiting friends & relatives here. The storm last Saturday morning die great damage to corn & apples in some parts of the county. Corn was badly broken down & apples blown off the trees. John PREIVETT, prominent citizen of Metcalfe Co died of consumption at Edmonton last Monday. Mrs Calvin COTHRIN died of consumption at her residence near Edmonton last Sunday after a long illness. Mr W G HUGHES, who has been in critical condition at his home here for past 2 weeks, of nervous prostration, is somewhat improved (reported by Glasgow Times). Weddings: Crys NORMAN & Sallie HOOD, last Sunday morning at her father's house by Thomas HOOD. Rev J R LESLIE officiated. She a beautiful & accomplished young lady, he an honest and hard working boy. Mr. R B OWENS, the well known horse jockey, married last Sunday at 1 am on the public square in T'ville to Miss Carrie SMITH, pretty daughter of Andrew SMITH of near Sulphur Lick; Judge W S SMITH officiated. J M McPHERSON & Mrs. Mary E SMITH married in town last Tuesday, Judge W S SMITH officiated. She the d/o James PADGET and the widow of Billie SMITH, a most excellant lady. Groom is a widower and a good clever gentleman. to be continued yet next week. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Here is my information regarding Charlotte Ford Faulkner Edwards,daughter of Peter and Susannah Ford. Name: Charlotte FORD Sex: Female Father: Peter FORD (b.app.1780-bef 16 Aug 1847) Mother: Susannah EDWARDS (b.2 Sep 1788-?) Individual Facts Birth 1818 in Barren County, Kentucky Marriages/Children 1. Alexander FAULKNER Marriage 21 May 1838 in Barren County, Kentucky (age 20) 2. Stephen R. Edwards Marriage 5 Jan 1847 in Barren County, Kentucky (age 29) Sources 1. Mrs. Glen Slinker Rt. 1, Knob Lick, KY 42154.(deceased) 2. Barren County,KY. 16 August 1847, Alexander is granted letter of administration for the estate of Peter Ford, decd. Court order 373. Court order 400 List of sales of the estate of Peter Ford. Court order 454, Settlement of the estate of Peter Ford ratified, confirmed and recorded. Deed Book S, pages 295 through 297 29 January 1848. Peter Ford settlement and those names are Charlotte Edwards and husband Stephen R. ,Susan E. Lock and husband Wm H Lock, America J Slinker and Husband Daniel M. Slinker, Patsey Ferguson and husband David E. Ferguson, Alexander Ford and Susana Ford. 3. The second division in the county of Barren, KY. on the 19th day of Sept 1850. Household #1050, family #1071 Susanna Ford age 62 F. Value of real estate owned $100 Born in Va. William H. Lock age 26 M Occupation Farmer. Born in Ky. Susanna Lock age 26 F. Born in Ky. Herbert E. Lock age 5 M. Born in Ky. Percival Lock age 1 M. Born in Ky. America Slinker age 25F Born in Ky. Frederick L. Slinker age 6M. Born in Ky. Eliza J. Slinker age 3F. Born in Ky William A. Slinker age 1M. Born in Ky. Mary Ann Faulkner age 11F. Born in Ky. Attended school within last year. Susan Faulkner age 7F. Born in Ky. Attended school within last year. 4. Per Cyrus Edwards in 'History of the Edwards Family in Barren County, Kentucky', "Stephen R. Edwards was for some years a deputy sheriff in Barren County, and was a Justice of the Peace in Metcalfe County for many years.". 5. Mary Ross (marycurt@juno.com) Alexander Faulkner b: January 14, 1817 Barren Co., KY d: January 15, 1844 Barren Co., KY +Charlotte Ford m: May 21, 1838 Barren Co., KY b: Abt 1818 KY 2 Mary Ann Faulkner b: Abt 1839 +James Greer m: August 15, 1861 Metcalfe Co., KY 2 Susanna "Susan" Faulkner b: November 1842 d: July 29, 1915 Barren Co., KY +Thomas P. Arnold He lists 7 children for Susanna Faulkner and Thomas Arnold. a. Minnie B. born about 1861. b. John R. born about 1863. c. Merritt S. born about 1865 d. Oscar born March 1872 e. Lula B. born about 1876 f. Hattie born July 1878 g. William T. born August 1889. Prepared by: Kathy Booth Locke kl343@verizon.net ------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 07:30:38 -0500 From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> To: SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: BARREN CO - BLUE SPRINGS CHURCH NOTES Continuation of notes on members cited at Blue Springs Baptist Church previously posted. Charlotte EDWARDS appears to be the wife of Stephen R as shown on the 1850 census, Dist 2, house 1041-1060. He was shown as 32, farmer, born KY. She was 32, born KY. They had Rebecca, 132; Henry, 12; Charles, 10, Alexander, 9; Stephen, 7; John, 5; Elizabeth, 2 and Charlotte 4/12. Stephen Edwards md in Barren Co Charlotte FAULKNER on 7 Jan 1847, sureties by Thomas M PIPER, md by Rev. Ralph PETTY.

Happy Monday! Charlie has posted the puzzler for this week and for a change, there are perhaps three correct answers to this genealogical puzzler; I will accept any or all of them! To see if you can figure out the answer, click on the URL in my signature line called gensoup and give it a try. If all goes on schedule, the KYBARREN list - and all those beginning with K will be migrated Wed. Since many of you have subscribed to KYRESEARCH - if Thursday's post isn't received by any of you, just stand by ... this is a huge list of over 2,100 subscribers and on a different server from my other lists ... you will receive the post! It might be delayed; it might fly from the beginning! See you tomorrow with Monroe Co's tidbits. Have a great week! Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Continuation of notes on members cited at Blue Springs Baptist Church previously posted. Sally & Patsy BRADLEY were d/o of James & Nancy as shown on the 1850 Barren Co census. Sally would have been abt 16 yrs old & Patsy 13 at time cited. They were in Dist 1, house 1044-1062 with their parents; the father being 51, born KY and a blacksmith. Nancy, the mother, was also 51 & other siblings included Isabella, 24; William, 17 (blacksmith), James, 13 & Benjamin, 9. James Bradley had married Nancy PETTY, d/o Rev Ralph, in Barren Co 1 July 1819. Daniel SHIRLEY, an early member of the church, married them. Cynthia E & Martha H HARDY are on the 1850 census, Dist 2, house 535- 547. They were the d/o William G HARDY (age 43, tanner, born VA) and Ann T (37, born TN). Cinthia would have been 17 and Martha H, 13. They had siblings of William H, 16 (b TN), Lucretia J, 14 (b TN), Polly Ann 12 (b KY), Francis L 9 (b KY) and Luann C 2/12 (b KY). William G Hardy married in Barren Co to Lucinda SHIRLEY 27 May 1872, md by Rev Cornelius DeWEESWE. Garland TWYMAN was s/o William & Emily Twyman, would have been abt 37 yrs old when cited. James B RATLIFF and wife Mary Ann, in 1850 lived in Dist 2, house 420-430 with Stephen and Patsy Ratliff. He was 24; she 25. There was a GALLOWAY family & a MIZE family at the same residence. James B RATLIFFE [sic] married Mary MIZE on 15 Oct 1846. Charlotte EDWARDS appears to be the wife of Stephen R as shown on the 1850 census, Dist 2, house 1041-1060. He was shown as 32, farmer, born KY. She was 32, born KY. They had Rebecca, 132; Henry, 12; Charles, 10, Alexander, 9; Stephen, 7; John, 5; Elizabeth, 2 and Charlotte 4/12. Stephen Edwards md in Barren Co Charlotte FAULKNER on 7 Jan 1847, sureties by Thomas M PIPER, md by Rev. Ralph PETTY. James RUSH was shown as a messenger from Glover Creek Baptist Church (Summer Shade in Metcalfe Co) in 1853. There was a James Rush in Barren Co in 1850, Dist 2, house 264-269; 45 yrs old, farmer. Wife was Elizabeth, 50. They had one son at home, Peter 23. Uncertain if this is the same James Rush. Rev Natahaniel Gorin TERRY later pastored many churches in arren Co area. He wed in Barren Co 21 Nov 1850 to Emily STARK, md by Rev. J P MURRELL. He was the son of Catherine GORIN whose father was Henry GORIN - brother of John GORIN who founded Glasgow. When accepting the 2nd term as pastor of Blue Springs, he would have been 30 yrs old; he had one child, N D Terry, age 1. to be continued next week. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Does anyone have records of a family named Regin, Reagan, Rigin, Riggins or some logical variant in Barren County about 1808? I am trying to identify the Betsy Regin and William Morrel whose marriage bond is dated 13 June 1808. The bond is clearly signed Wm. Morrel -- not Murrel -- though I am careful about drawing hard conclusions from spellings. Betsy's last name looks to me to be spelled Regin, though it could also be Rigin in this document. Jessee Harrison was a bondsman. I have a William Morrel who moved to Jackson County, Tennessee about this time. He would have been a widow about 55-60 years old in 1808 so if he is the William Morrel of the bond, it was most likely a second marriage for both people. Betsy might be the widow of a Regin. ( I have seen a printed record of the marriage of Wm. Morrel to Patsy Riggin on Jan 4, 1807 but I have not found documentation of that date or first name.) As to William Morrel, I am aware of the family of Samuel and Susannah Murrel in Barren County that includes a William Murrell whose marriage bond to Nancy Nunnally is dated 5 November 1832. For the record, the signatures on the two bonds are completely different. I would very much appreciate help with these families. John Newton Morrel morcor@comcast.net

I have a message board in Campbellsville, KY and we just started a family genealogy thread. You can post your family genealogy questions for Green and Taylor Co. and perhaps someone has your answer. I have several families researched in Barren and Hart, Green, Taylor, Hardin, Lincoln, Washington, Marion, LaRue Co., KY and Virginia families. Post your question and we'll see what we come up with. Give it a try you might find an answer to your question. Marsha Hamilton Campbellsville, KY http://groups.google.com/group/Taylor-County-Day-and-Night?hl=en

The only Riggins family I ever heard of in the area was at Tompkinsville, Monroe County. Hermit in the Woods ----- Original Message ----- From: <morcor@comcast.net> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:44 PM Subject: [SCKY] Regan, Reagan, Regin, Riggins families > > > Does anyone have records of a family named Regin, Reagan, Rigin, Riggins > or some logical variant in Barren County about 1808? I am trying to > identify the Betsy Regin and William Morrel whose marriage bond is dated > 13 June 1808. The bond is clearly signed Wm. Morrel -- not Murrel -- > though I am careful about drawing hard conclusions from spellings. Betsy's > last name looks to me to be spelled Regin, though it could also be Rigin > in this document. Jessee Harrison was a bondsman. > > I have a William Morrel who moved to Jackson County, Tennessee about this > time. He would have been a widow about 55-60 years old in 1808 so if he > is the William Morrel of the bond, it was most likely a second marriage > for both people. Betsy might be the widow of a Regin. > > ( I have seen a printed record of the marriage of Wm. Morrel to Patsy > Riggin on Jan 4, 1807 but I have not found documentation of that date or > first name.) As to William Morrel, I am aware of the family of Samuel and > Susannah Murrel in Barren County that includes a William Murrell whose > marriage bond to Nancy Nunnally is dated 5 November 1832. For the record, > the signatures on the two bonds are completely different. > > I would very much appreciate help with these families. > John Newton Morrel morcor@comcast.net > > > ==== SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Mailing List ==== > >

Just a little note about the changes at rootsweb which I'm still trying to weed through. As I noted yesterday, every subscriber to rootsweb lists was supposed to have received a message indicating that the lists would be "migrated" from the SmartList software which has been used for years to the Mailman software. The lists are being moved over alphabetically; those rootsweb lists beginning with A and B and I think C have been moved already. Of course there are glitches along the way; it is a massive undertaking. It should not make much difference to the subscribers - the main thing you might notice is that it is no longer necessary to put the "L" in the address name. As I noted, you never had to do with on the South-Central-Kentucky list as it didn't need it - but to post to the KYBARREN you did. When this list is migrated, you will only need to send the emails to KYBARREN@rootsweb.com. The schedule for moving the lists is shown below - but, the schedule is modified if there is a problem. All the K's, which would include our KYBARREN, KYRESEARCH & KYBIOGRAPHIES - Aug 23rd. The S's which would include SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY - Aug 29th. So, if mail is delayed to you around these dates, they are in the process of being moved to the new software and I am trying to work my way through the administsrative changes I must make (you get the easy part!). I hope everything will go smoothly but hang in there! Thanks for all of you have subbed to Research after my post of yesterday. These posts will be in outline form and the ideas and tips are from 1,000 researchers who were queried as to how they handled various aspects of research, links to other articles on the subjects by the experts, reasons behind each step of research. It is quite good and hopefully will give us all a fresh look at what we've been doing and maybe some things we never thought of. The first post will be next Thursday and will run for several weeks. If you've never looked at the past 600 tips I've made over the years, click on the URL in my signature line called SCKY links, then click on research. Again, if you are already receiving the Thursday tips from me, you do not need to subscribe again. Thanks so much and I'll see you Monday! Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Looking for more info on this family. Florence Lain/Lane being my Grandmother's sister. They live in the Cave City, Goodnite area. Some in Horse Cave also.I remember a Patsy Ross as a child but don't know if she is one of the ones below. Ken Smith Descendants of Lestir C Ross 1 Lestir C Ross 1869 - 1963 b: Abt. 1869 in Kentucky d: 08 Jul 1963 in Barren C. Ky .. +FLORENCE LAIN 1874 - b: Abt. 1874 in Barren Co Ky ......... 2 Ruby V Ross 1899 - b: 1899 ......... 2 Minnie Ross 1902 - b: 1902 ......... 2 Hattie Ross 1904 - b: 1904 ......... 2 John B Ross 1906 - b: 1906 in Barren Co, Kentucky ............. +Nellie .................... 3 Edward C Ross ......... 2 Mattie Ross 1909 - b: 1909 ......... 2 Leslie H Ross 1914 - 1978 b: 19 Jun 1914 in Barren C. Ky d: Abt. 1978 in Barren C. Ky ......... 2 Bill Ross 1918 - b: Abt. 1918 This is America, why must we press 1 for English Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops but 29% are on welfare. The cost of immigration to the American taxpayer in 1997 was a NET (after subtracting taxes immigrants pay) $70 BILLION a year, [Professor Donald Huddle, Rice University]. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.

As you know, rootsweb will be undergoing some major changes this month. I got behind on reading about all the changes while out of town and am trying to play catch up now. You all received a notice from rootsweb as to this change. For the most part, you won't have to do too much - or anything. One of the changes is doing away with the -L having to appear in list names - this would include the KYBARREN list but not SOUTH-CENTRAL- KENTUCKY, KYRESEARCH or KYBIOGRAPHIES as they are some of the oldest lists on rootsweb and didn't require the extra "L". I have printed off 22 pages of changes that do affect the list admins ... and some I will understand better when the lists are "migrated" to a new system. If I disappear for a day or so, it's likely because I'm trying to learn what to do!!! The lists are being moved over to the new system on different days so it won't happen all at once. So bear with us as we muddle through the changes .... Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I'm really excited to announce that I'm going to be running a series on KYRESEARCH that I think you will definitely be interested in. Back in April of this year I participated in a survey conducted by Barry J. Ewell and later presented at a Family History and Genealogy Conference in UT. Barry then sent all participants in the survey the entire course as he presented at the conference and granted me participation to share it with the subscribers of KYRESEARCH. I am very pleased! Some of the topics he presented have been covered by me in tips past but a fresh prospective can breathe life into our research. Whether you are brand new genealogists or long-time researchers - there's something for you. He entitled the course as Top 20 Lessons Genealogists Need To Know. The topics he covers from his presentation include: Verify, Verify, Verify Data You Receive from Others, Use your genealogy software to help find questionable data. Verifying online genealogy sources, Document Your Sources, Do it right the first time!, Sources you can rely on, Sources establish credibility, Write legibly, Checking sources allow for verification, How valuable is your time?, Six elements of a good source citation, Resource. Check Multiple Sources , Use multiple sources to correlate, Learn what resources contain needed information and where they're located, Searching multiple sources reveals existence of family members, Census records are not always correct, Don't forget the help/knowledge of others, Hit a Brick- wall? Be Patient and Persistent, Brick-walls come and go with patience and persistence, Suggestions for managing brick-walls, Additional resources, Talk to Your Family-NOW!, Interviews provide opportunities to locate family records, Use open ended questions in interviews, Ask the same question to several individuals, Record and write down the information you are told, Check out dates and stories, There are two-sides to every story, Do not edit family stories, Some family secrets/gossips should remain family secrets, Respect the living, Go to family reunions, Ask others to help gather information Share Your Time, Research, and Interest with Others, Share your genealogy research, Share and beware - sharing genealogy in the information age, Share your time with others, Share your interest in genealogy with others, Organize Your Data, Start out organized, Choose an on organization system that genealogists use, Organize the results of your research, Learn About Your Ancestors, Learn about the historical and social context of ancestors lives, Read the history of countries, states, counties, cities, towns, and villages, Maps provide help to track down facts about ancestors, Search out historical resources, Study drawings, paintings, and photographs of the time period. Keep Your Genealogy Research Focused, Stay focused on the research you start, See the big picture. Expect the Unexpected, Surprise, surprise, surprise, Managing the unexpected, Don't be Afraid to Ask Questions, Learning begins with a question, Ask for documentation, Ask the same question to several individuals, Review your written questions before you press the send button, Narrow the focus of your questions, Examples of the questions genealogists ask, Bring Ancestors to Life with Photographs, Putting faces with names and dates, Identifying photographs, Using photographs in your research, Additional resources. Effectively Use the Message Boards, Value of message boards, Think before you send your query or reply. How to keep track of your message board queries, There Are Many Ways to Spell Your Last Name, Spelling Doesn't Count, Conduct Field Research, Where the computer screen ends and shoes hit the street. Learn to Read Old Script, Understanding old script. Backup Your Data - Need we say more, What genealogy data should I backup?, When should I backup?, Where to backup? Backup media pros and cons, Use Genealogy Software, Find and choose genealogy software. Learn to Use the Census, United States census records, State census records, Census records from around the world, Where to find census records, Clues gathered from the census?, Census records have limitations, Census Do's and Don'ts. Learning Genealogy is a Process, Yearnings to know "Whose I am.", A Genealogy Process-Getting Started in 6 Steps, Getting Started, Online resources to help you as you start the journey, Learn How to Use the Web in Your Research, Research from your desktop, Learn to use Google and refine your skills in internet searches, Verify your data, Field research is still a required genealogy skill, Learn to Analyze Your Data, Sherlock Holmes understood analysis, The 5 W's of analysis, Common analysis errors not to make, Organize your research into spreadsheets to simplify your analysis, Seek the Inspiration of Prayer, Genealogy, prayer and inspiration. Quite a training course right? If you are not yet a subscriber to KYRESEARCH, this might be the time to jump on! Send an email to: KYRESEARCH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com and put the word subscribe in the subject line and/or body of the email. Nothing else. If you are already receiving my Thursday (once-a-week) posts, you don't need to resub. 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If any of you see an error, please post the correction to the list. As I have mentioned in the past, the physicians were required to annually submit to the County Clerk all the births and deaths that they had attended. These were often on tiny scraps of paper which were then entered into large ledger books. At times the physicians forgot to write down an event, misspelled a name or got the date wrong, or the County Clerk wrote the information down wrong. Then when I transcribed the information from the microfilmed copy of the ledger - there were times when the entry was smeared, writing impossible to decipher etc. LIGHT: Jacob, 59 years, 26 days, blacksmith, married, born VA, s/o Eber & Elizabeth, appoplexy (so spelled, then crossed out), 14 Sept 1856 Sally, 57 years, 2 days, married, born Barren Co, d/o John J & Elizabeth LEECH (? on spelling again as there was an ink blob over part of the name), cancer, 12 Dec 1856. LILE: Laura A, 10 mos, 3 days, d/o Alexander N & Eliza J, southside, 9 Oct 1859. Sarah Elizabeth, 2 mos, d/o Alexander & Avalina, opium poisoing, 25 Dec 1852. William Shelton, 1 mo, 9 days, born Green Co KY, s/o William & Anna, southside, 7 Aug 1866. LINDSEY, Virginia, 6, born Wabash Co IL, d/o Samuel & Mary (KY-KY), whoopeing cough, 11 Nov 1876. LIVELY: A M, 15 yrs, 11 mos, 8 days, male, s/o William C & Susan, consumption, 11 Feb 1855. Cecil, 25, single, s/o Lewis & Mary B (Hart-Hart), spinal, 4 Oct 1904. John H, 62 yrs, 2 days, married, born near Glasgow VA, s/o Mark & Mary, northside, typhoid, 24 Oct 1854. Judith E, 17 yrs, 7 mos, 26 days, single, s/o William C & Susan, southside, consumption, 9 June 1854. Mary Jane, 30, married, d/o William & Grace Mansfield, chronic inflamatory bowels, 9 Oct 1852. Nancy, 18 mos, d/o William M & Amelia, flux, 10 July 1853. Nellie V, 1 1/2 yrs old, d/o J C & N C (KY-VA), erysipilis, 17 Mar 1874. Pamela, 55, married, d/o John & Nancy LARD (Hart-Barren), congestive chills, 12 Sept 1877. Slave Abram, 60, born VA, owned by James S Lively, southside, 3 June 1858. Slave Judith, 9, owned by William M Lively, flux & fever, 14 July 1853. Slave Judith, 57, owned by B M Lively, southside, strangulated hernia, 10 Aug 1854. Slave Margaret, 20, born Barren Co, owned by B M Lively, dropsy, 4 Apr 1855. Slave Sarah Jane, 13 yrs, 4 mos, owned by B M Lively, typhoid, 26 June 1855. V F, 5 yrs, 5 mos, 13 days, female, d/o William M & Permelia, brain inflamation, 27 June 1855. LOCK/LOCKE: Amanda B, 20, single, born Barren Co, d/o Jacob H & Jane E (KY-KY), consumption, 11 Mar 1876. Isaac E, 1 mo, s/o E D & E, southside, brain inflamation, 7 May 1858. Margaret, 83, widow, born VA, d/o Anthony & Luliaza JETT, died Barren Co, inflamed bowels, 6 Jan 1852. to be continued next week with LOGSDON. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Shown is head of household, # of acres owned, location based on nearest waterway. NICHOLS, Thomas, no land NEAL, William P, 101 1/2 acres, Barren River NICHOLS, John, no land NICHOLS, Susannah, 82 acres, B Fork OVERBY, James, 100 acres, B Fork OLIVER, Thomas W, no land OLIVER, John, no land OLIVER, Thomas Sr, 155 acres, Difficult plus 7 lots in Port Arthur OLIVER, William Jr, no land, lot in Port Arthur OLIVER, James, no land OLIVER, William Sr, 176 acres B Fork & 40 acres same PIPPIN, Joseph, no land PREWITT, William, no land PULLIAM, John Jr, 200 acres W Creek, 200 acres W Creek, 150 acres W Creek, 68 acres W Creek, 8 acres in Hart Co. PORTER, David A, 180 acres B Fork, 50 acres same, 116 3/4 acres same, one lot Scottsville PORTER, Denton S, 210 acres, B Fork PIPER, Asa, 200 acres, B Fork PULLIAM, Joseph, 100 acres B Fork, 82 acres same PAYNE, Thomas, either 7 or 9 lots in Scottsville PARIS, Robert H, 200 acres, T Creek, 109 acres L Creek PATON, John, 200 acres, Difficult PULLIAM, John Sr, 75 acres Diffiicult & 76 acres same PREAST, William, no land PULLEN, John, 197 acres, Difficult PATON, William, no land PATON, Robert, 50 aces, Difficult PITCHFORD, Daniel Jr, no land PITCHFORD, Daniel Sr, 100 aces L Creek, 62 acres same, 100 acres L Creek PARKER, Samuel, 118 acres L Creek, 125 acres same, 200 acres same, 150 acres same, 34 acres same, 40 acres same, 250 acres same, 4 lots Scottsville POPE, Elijah, 50 acres, L Creek PARKER, William, 200 acres L Creek, 125 acres same, 3 acres same, 7 acres same, 5 1/2 acres same POIDEN???, Jesse, 200 acres, L Creek PORTER, Edward, 200 acres B Fork and 60 acres same PITCHFORD, Eli, 100 acres L Creek PAYNE, Alford, 150 acres B Fork, 50 acres same, 360 acres same, 100 acres same, 50 acres same, 150 acres L Creek, 10 acres B Fork, 6 acres same, 100 acres T Creek, 100 acres same, 150 acres same, 50 acres J Creek, 110 acres B Fork, 100 acres L Creek, 400 acres B Fork To be continued next week. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Mt. Moriah Baptist Church near Mt. Sherman, Kentucky, will be celebrating its 150th anniversary on October 29, 2006. Looking for OLD historical information. Would love a picture of the original log building or frame building from 1888. Thanks, Sherri

Monroe County News ... old tidbits. Likely to be continued next week. 14 May 1898: Deputy Collector J H NEWMAN discovered & destroyed a moonshine distillery in the Sand Lick neighborhood the past Sat night. It was nearly new and no one knows who it belonged to. Misses Mollie & Kate KIDWELL are visiting their grandparents, M/M L D KIDWELL. Mrs Willie ANDERS and her beautiful and accomplished daughter Miss Myrtie are visiting at M D KIDWELL's. J F EMMERT returned from TX yesterday. He says Monroe Co is the best place on earth and he'll never go away any more. Miss Minnie COX had been visiting her sister, Mrs. Cam McPHERSON here, returned home to Dixon Springs. Miss Dora, beautiful & accomplished daughter of the widow Bess of Meshack is visiting her sister, Mrs T M COPASS at this place. Miss Adda Belle EUBANK has returned from a visit to relatives & friends at Glasgow. Prof. W S EMMERT and wife of Cloyd's Landing were in town a few days ago. Mr T T TUCKER is visiting his sister, Mrs J C CARTER here. Mrs Reuben WHITE of Summer Shade was in town. Miss Hattie COE of the Normal school here has returned from a visit to her parents in Martinsburg. Tom KIDWELL of Sulphur Creek was in town. Mrs. Cora BAXTER who has been attending school in Glasgow returned to her home at Hestand. Mrs Camilla FORD has been visiting her mother, Mrs. PURCELL, at Spivey for several days. An entertainment given at the home of M/M O D BOWMAN near Rock Bridge last Sat was well attended. Wanted: the whereabouts of Narcis SMILEY, colored, or any of her family. She belonged to Eliza SMILEY and lived in TX before the war of the rebellion.. Ad placed by Jane KIRKPATRICK, colored of Tompkinsville. Frank WHITE and Miss Mollie KIDWELL were married at 7 pm yesterday (no date). Married at the Christian Church; largest crowd we'd ever seen in T'ville. House was beautifully decorated with evergreens and ferns, beautiful bouquets and flowers. Bride is the youngest daughter of M/Mrs I D KIDWELL - beautiful, accomplished, devout Christian lady. Dress was of costly silk of a blue tint and made in the latest Paris style. Groom is the oldest living son of M/M Jordan WHITE. Prominent young lawyer with bright prospects before him. Character is spotless as the snow of winter. Two of the best families of T'ville. Ushers were Thomas KIDWELL, Prof S B RAY, I D TURNER & Sam WHITE. Newly wed couple offer their thanks for their gifts from: Miss Sarah WILLIAMS, M/M E L BIGGERSTAFF, Miss LaVice CARR, Mrs Emma MAXEY, Miss Laura COUNTY, Mr C P WHITE & Miss Caffrie PALMORE. August 6, 1899: Election yesterday went quietly. School opened Monday. Miss Mamie MORGAN of Cookeville TN will teach the music class here. E S DALTON & Haywood GETTINGS of Moss TN were in town. Bob LEE of Cookeville TN was in town. Mrs T W COMER, Master Herman PLUMLEE and Mrs E GOODE are on the sick list. Mrs Flora EVANS and sister, Miss Roxie of T'ville visited their parents. T M GILLENWATER of Walnut Shade is in town. Mrs Gus EMBERTON had been spending a week with her sister, Mrs Kate HARLIN - has returned home. Wirt COMER went to Mud Lick to see W E WILLIAMS. Joe NEWMAN now of Etoile was in town. Misses Ora CRABTREE & Laura CRAWFORD were at home for a visit. W S HARLAN moved to Sulphur Creek. Haro FOUST, Hubert CARTER & Tip CANON were in town. Rev Bob SPILLMAN preached at the Baptist Church. Jake EMBERTON and famly visited J B CRAWFORD's. Miss Ettie GILLENWATER of Walnut Shade visited T W COMER's today. Surprise birthday party honoring Mrs Minerva J MOORE on her 68th birthday, over 90 of her relatives and friends attended. Met at her residence near Mount Hermon Church. Participants included: Rev S H PAGE, Betsie TOOLEY, Isham TOOLEY, J B PITCOCK, W T GENTRY, Sarah SYMPSON, Dollie PAGE, Fannie GENTRY, Clara GENTRY, Caroline TRIVETT, C M PITCOCK, T S PITCOCK, William HARRISON, Bert PAGE, Charley PAGE, Albert PITCOCK, Jepthia GERALDS, Weslie PITCOCK, Rev Charles PAGE, Coil TOOLEY, R M PITCOCK, Jasper JACKSON, John BASIL, Bertie GENTRY, Birdy PITCOCK, Denton DAVIS, Frank PITCOCK, Randolph GERALDS, Avery PITCOCK, Denton PITCOCK, Osmon PITCOCK, Laura BASIL, Eddie PITCOCK, Alice PITCOCK, Alice PAGE, Eva PITCOCK, May MOORE, Onie PITCOCK, Genie BASIL, Effie PITCOCK, Lula HARRISON, Della GERALDS, Arpha MOORE, Lou MOORE, Linsey MOORE, Fannie PITCOCK, Bettie PITCOCK, Bettie McPHERSON, Sarah PITCOCK, Martha TOOLEY, Syntithia PITCOCK, Laura GENTRY, Martha PAGE, Mrs FORD, Gillie GENTRY, Smuel YOKLEY, J G PITCOCK, Bedford PITCOCK, Sarah PAGE, John PITCOCK, Martha PITCOCK, Martha HARRISON, Lizzie PITCOCK, Marvin PITCOCK, Joe POLAND, Hugh PITCOCK, Early PITCOCK, Fannie PITCOCK, Flora PITCOCK, Donna PITCOCK, Mary PITCOCK, Lucy HARRISON, Leona GERALDS, Miss GERALDS, Bettie PITCOCK, Viola PITCOCK, Carrie PITCOCK, Samuel MOORE, Lola HARRISON, Annie PITCOCK. Mrs Minerva MOORE is the widow of the late E E MOORE, an eminent Baptist ,mionister who passed to the spirit land about 7 years ago. to be continued - Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/