I don't recall whether there was a location of the Blue Springs Baptist Church posted. Does any one know where the church was located. Thanks Ken Smith Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> wrote: As I wake, have my coffee and wait for rains to come in; I just finished our series on the Blue Springs Baptist Church. For the next couple of weeks I'll be running a series on the residents of the County Farm or poor house through a 30-yr period in Glasgow. Charlie has posted the puzzler for the week - again, fewer "guessers" last week and if it doesn't kick up a smidgen, we'll send the puzzlers on vacation for a while. If you want to guess, click on the URL in my signature line call gensoup. Again, remember to enter your email address 'cause your answer will come to me ok, but I won't have the foggiest idea of who you are! No one sees your answer but me - it doesn't appear on the website. Later on today, hopefully, I want to tell you 2 stories that might be an encouragement to you in your research ... sometimes it takes awhile to break down your brick walls, but then they come tumbling - two of mine did less than 8 hours apart on two separate lines and I'll tell you how. Later - Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, Inc. 6501 Greenway Parkway Suite 103-640 Scottsdale, AZ 85254 (520) 829-3112 http://www.minutemanhq.com A. Attrition Through Enforcement. B. Mandatory Workplace Verification of New Hires. C. Federal Cooperation With Local Law Enforcement to Pick Up Illegal Aliens Who Have Been Detained

Yes, I love stories like that, Sandi. Had one in one of my lines about a year ago when I found someone in a census record which I know good and well I had checked before. But I just spent time browsing through the original instead of the book transcription. Mike Vance

My mom has a book that belonged to her father of Dwight L. Moody's sermons, it has to be handled with a lot of care, it is to fragile to be rebound. Bettie in TN

Yep ! Me, too !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandi Gorin" <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> To: <south-central-kentucky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [SCKY] IN CLOSING MONDAY, 18 SEPT 2006 - PUZZLER >I think there are a LOT like you. There are over 1,000 on the two lists > combined and I've been hearing from about 15. I'll allow it tho! Sandi > > > Sandi's Puzzlers: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html > SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html > GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

First tho ... the KYBARREN server and the KYBIOGRAPHIES server seem to be down this morning, posts will go out later! There are 2 things I always recommend - take oral history with a grain of salt until it can be proven - and never stop looking - those brick walls can come tumbling down. In one of the cases below, it took 60 or more years; the other over 35 years. Forgive the personal references but I think this will encourage you (forget the length of time it took!). #1. I spent this weekend actually working on my own maternal line, a rarity. One of my dead ends had long been my gggg grandmother, one Dorothy Moody of NH to IL. My genealogically blessed aunt (yes, the one who taught me this biz 36 yrs ago), sent me a book on Unity NH where she was born and some miscellaneous family sheets. This took her back 3 more generations thankfully but ran me into a roadblock. Her ancestors did NOT hook up to their ancestors as shown. I spent hours reading censuses, ancestry.com, Family History, etc. etc and got into old books on the family. Bingo! There was the right line; she was not descended from one John Moody the Emigrant, but from his cousin, William Moody the Emigrant - they appear to have come to America together from England. But, that roused my curiosity. Moody. I remembered a Moody from my younger years - a very famous evangelist who died in 1899 named Dwight L. Moody. Just for the fun of it, I did some web searching and found his pedigree, published by his own family (son and grandson) and lo and behold, he was a descendant of William Moody too and a close cousin to my gggg grandmother, Dorothy. I called my aunt and she said something to the effect that my (Sandi's) grandmother and her mother always told the family that they were related to Dwight L Moody but we always thought it was just a tale of a family wanted to be related to someone famous. The family told this story back in the 1880's but no one bothered to find out if it was true or not. For a change, I didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater! So - do some investigating; the story might have been elaborated on over the years, or changed when passed from ancestor to ancestor - but maybe - just maybe it might be true! #2. Then, I was working on my Dad's family and a stumbling block has always been my ggg grandfather, one David Laughery, who was born "abt 1795 in OH" with his father born in northern Ireland. He is shown in many Logan Co IL records and his wife was always shown as an Elizabeth. On my records I have carried her name as Elizabeth Williams - and doggone it - I haven't the foggiest idea of where I got that name - I didn't document well in my early days. Last night, before calling it a day and quite tired of eyes, I clicked on one more site called Find a Cemetery. None of our families ever made it to sites like that but I typed in Laughery. Laughery can be spelled some 100 different ways - or more. Bingo - there is listed a cemetery that was JUST transcribed in July 2006 by a lady I don't know - on a cemetery I'd never heard up, basically in the back yard of where my Dad grew up - a big one. And there is my David Laughery and his wife. Now I have his full date of birth and problems. His wife was Elizabeth J Birks, not Williams, but I know it is my ggg grandfather. Buried with him is his son Nathan and the wife of my gg grandfather (who is buried in a different cemetery). I went back on the web and did a search for Elizabeth Birks - and there she was, neat as a pin, married to a Thomas David Laughery or Lowery. I wrote her; she just emailed me almost 100 pages of data. They had the Birks but no information on the Laughery - which I have. We have a problem as there are 2 stones there - one for David Laughery born on a certain date and dying on a certain date in 1795. He's ours. Next to it is a stone for Thomas David Laughery born on exactly the same day and month, but dying in 1794. Either a later stone was put up and and the got the year wrong, or the stones were mis-transcribed. The brick wall still has a few bricks standing ... I still can't find his parents or grandparents but from northern Ireland I know he came - the family "castle" is still standing! So this afternoon I'm sorting through wills, deeds and everything the lady sent me and helping her as she helps me. 36 yrs of looking - and I was likely no more than 2 miles from this cemetery when I was back in IL in early August. I'm bribing my aunt to run over there and shoot some pictures for me, but what a find. Don't give up!!!!!!!! Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Sandi, I hope you don't stop the questions. I look every week and the question and the answer from the previous week and learn something. Most times I don't know the answer and don't have the time to look for it. Don't take the fact that I don't answer to mean that I'm not interested. There are probably plenty of others like me! Pat

I think there are a LOT like you. There are over 1,000 on the two lists combined and I've been hearing from about 15. I'll allow it tho! Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

As I wake, have my coffee and wait for rains to come in; I just finished our series on the Blue Springs Baptist Church. For the next couple of weeks I'll be running a series on the residents of the County Farm or poor house through a 30-yr period in Glasgow. Charlie has posted the puzzler for the week - again, fewer "guessers" last week and if it doesn't kick up a smidgen, we'll send the puzzlers on vacation for a while. If you want to guess, click on the URL in my signature line call gensoup. Again, remember to enter your email address 'cause your answer will come to me ok, but I won't have the foggiest idea of who you are! No one sees your answer but me - it doesn't appear on the website. Later on today, hopefully, I want to tell you 2 stories that might be an encouragement to you in your research ... sometimes it takes awhile to break down your brick walls, but then they come tumbling - two of mine did less than 8 hours apart on two separate lines and I'll tell you how. Later - Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

This will be the final look at some of the members of Blue Springs before moving on to a different topic. Elizabeth ELAM was living with the Jonathan & Nancy Jane REID family in Metcalfe Co per the 1870 Metcalfe census, house 28-28. She was a domestic servant and age 61 at that time. William G HARDY, 62, farmer, born VA and wife Ann T, 57, born TN are found on the 1870 Metcalfe Co census, house 232-224.They had dau Lydia C, 17 along with David W & Luan K Smith (27 and 30) with their dau, Nancy E, 1. R R H GILLOCK was connected with many churches in SCKY serving with Mt Pleasant in Barren Co, Cave Springs Baptist, Three Springs, Boiling Springs - all in Hart Co and others. Buford SUMMERS in found on the 1870 Barren Co census, 187-182 as the son of L P & Pernetta; age 4. He would have been about 13 at the time of the revival when he joined. Arrena J CLINE & Marion H CLINE were children of Peter & Louisa Cline, house 340-328 on the 1870 Metcalfe Co Census. Peter was 38 then, farmer, born TN and Louisa was 37, born KY. Marion H was 16 and Arrena J 10; had siglings Emily J, 7; John Floid, 6 and Cyrus 2. Pleas GALLOWAY was Pleasant, s/o Iham & Amanda J, 1870 Metcalfe, house 294-285, age 5 then - or age 16 at time of his joining the church. Tom C FERGUSON, age 18, s/o David E (46, farmer, born KY) and Martha A (28, born KY). He was 7 yrs old on the census, house 336-325. John M PIPER was at house 321-321 on the 1870 Metcalfe census, age 22 then, born KY. He had wife Ann, 19 and they had a son Wm E, age 1. I hope this series has been a help. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

MEADOWS, A J, 39, female, marired, d/o J M & Alice SHORT (Hart-VA), childbed fever, 28 Nov 1903. MEDDOWS, Lydia, 26, married, born Washington Co KY, d/o William B & Margaret M (no last name shown), (Washington Co-Lincoln Co), scrofula, 1 Nov 1877. MEARS, Washington, 3 mos,s/o Hugh & Elizabeth, northside, flux, 10 Sept 1857. MERCER, T C, 9 yrs, 6 mos, 19 days, male, born Adair Co KY, s/o G & Lutilia A, 8 Apr 1855. MEREDITH: Emaline, 25, single, d/o William & Rebecca (KY-KY), consumption, 31 Mar 1876. John, 14 yrs, 1 mo, s/o William & (blank), northside, pleurisy, 10 June 1858. No first, 3 days, male, s/o Alexander & Monah (Hart-Hart), croup, 31 Dec 1877. William, 80, widow, old age, pauper, 26 Oct 1875. MERRITT, Nancy E, 23, married, d/o Zachariah & Nancy, northside,1 Dec 1859. MERRY, Slave Eliza Jane, 3 mos, 6 days,owned by James Merry, 15 May 1855. MERRY, Slave Evaline, 24, born Barren Co, owned by James Merry, southside, dropsy, 14 Sept 1858 MIDDLETON: Anderson (Black), 25, married, born Barren Co, s/o Andrew & Minerva (Barren-Barren), inflamation, 15 Feb 1875. Rial B, 41, married, shoemaker, born Hardin Co, s/o Henry? & Bell, flux & typhoid, 27 Aug 1852. William E, 8, shoemaker's son, s/o Rial B & Jane, flux & typhoid, 26 July 1852. MILES, No First, 3 days, male, s/o George & (blank), (TN-KY), 3 July 1874. MILES, William G, 8, s/o William & Ophelia (TN-KY), croup, 29 Oct 1876. MILLER: Adam, 100, married, born VA, s/o Jacob & Nancy, old age, 16 Feb 1877. Eddy L,2, female, d/o W & E (KY-KY), spasms, 15 June 1874. Jacob, 81, married, sleigh maker, born Bedford Co VA, s/o Samuel & Barbary (Germany-Germany), consumption, 8 Oct 1874. John, 37, married, farmer & blacksmith, s/o William & Agnes, typhoid, 30 Mar 1852. No First, 3 weeks, female, d/o William & Agness, dropsy, 15 Nov 1852. No First, 5 days, male, s/o John H & Julia (KY-KY), croup, 8 July 1876. Sarah F, 2 yrs, 10 mos, 12 days, d/o Albert & Mary E, northside, infant cholera, 31 Aug 1859 Thomas P (Mulatto), 1, s/o Eliza (Hart Co), 1 Dec 1875. to be continued next week with MILLS. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Back on 17 Dec 1977 I posted to this list information on a Pioneer Certificate (a program that was formerly done by the South Central KY Historical and Genealogical Society.) One of the certificates that was issued was for Elzia ARTERBURN and was submitted by Charles Arterburn. He has written me and would like to make some corrections/additions to his original application which is shown below: ELZIA ARTERBURN b 1801 Shenandoah Co VA; d July 1881Flippin, Monroe, KY; md Washington Co TN to Elizabeth DOUGLASS. He the son of James Arterburn and Mary ELZIA. Settled in Monroe Co by 2 Apr 1833, first appearing on 1834 deed and on 1840 census. His wife b 1802 TN; d March 30, 1860, daughter of John and Elizabeth DOUGLASS. Their children: Rhoda Isabelle James Henderson John Douglas Jane Elizabeth William Monroe Thomas Elijah Louisa Julia Ann Samuel Patten b 1 Oct 1844 Monroe Co; d 26 Oct 1922 Flippin; md Frances A.J. "Julia" THOMASSON 15 Nov 1865 in Monroe Co. Their son: Samuel A.O. "Gus" Arterburn b 5 Dec 1882 Monroe Co; d 11 Mar 1952 same; md 22 Nov 1901 same Lura Catherine TURNER. Their son: Raymond G Arterburn - no data - and his son the submitter. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

John DURHAM, #S31003. Lived Allen Co. Private in the company commanded by Capt. THOMPSON in VA Militia for 5 months in 1781. Inscribed on KY Roll at $20 per year to begin 4 Mar 1831. Certificate of Pension issued 28 Jan 1834. In his deposition given 11 Nov 1833 he stated that he was 72 years old. Entered the army as a volunteer Feb 1781 in Halifax Co VA where he was raised and born. He served under Capt John THOMPSON. Served 6 weeks except last 2 or 3 days when he was sent home on account of sicknes. In April of the same year he was drafted for 4 months and served under Captain Paran? BOOKER who was displaced; and then was commanded by Capt. Wm CLARK. He was again drafted in Sept of the same year and served under Capt. Wm McDANIEL. He was furloughed on account of sickness. Witnesses for John DURHAM were: Benjamin BAILEY (clergyman) and Walter THOMAS. /s/ Asher W. GRAHAM, Judge. ------------ Covering Jacket: #19232. John GATEWOOD, Allen Co, Pvt in the company commanded by Capt CHRISTIAN in the VA line for 14 months and 19 days. Inscribed on KY Roll at $45.43 per year to begin 4 Mar 1836. Certificate of pension issued 27 Dec 1839. On 17 Sept 1832, Allen Co, in open court John GATEWOOD appeared and deposeth: Age 73. Lived in Amherst Co VA during the Revolutionary War. In Feb 1778/79 was drafted and served under Capt. John CHRISTIAN. Did not serve out his full time. His father, hearing he was sick, came down and released me, presumably by furlough. In fall of 1780 drafted for 3 months under Capt. James McGUNNERY?. In Jan 1781 substituted for Thomas POWEL and served under Capt. Wm TUCKER. In May 1781 was drafted and served under Capt. James PAMPHLET. In Sept 1781 volunteered and served under Capt. John STEWART and was at the Siege of York. "Thinking my discharges would be of no service to me I sold them all or part of them to Moses HIGGINBOTHAM for wool hats." Witnesses for Gatewood were Peyton WELSH & Zadock B THACKSTON (clergyman) and Samuel E CARPENTER. He appeared again 18 May 1833 and said that as best as he could remember he served a total of one year and 19 days; that he was born in either Culpeper or Spottsylvania Co VA, can't say for sure, born 10 July 1761. On 16 Aug 1839, Mrs Nancy GATEWOOD Deposeth, age 74. Swears that she was married to John on 22 Aug 1782 and that he died 6 Oct 1835. Sworn to before Samuel E CARPENTER, JP. She displayed a Bible of great age which had been kept in the family and from which was abstracted the following. A corner of the leaf being torn off, the names are not entirely extinct [sic]. "Was borned July 10, 1761. Was borned Feb 5, 1765. Gatewood was borned Dec 21, 1783. Oaths were taken of Fletcher Gatewood and Peter FISHBOURN who say that John Gatewood preceded the first entry and Nancy Gatewood the second entry and Dotia the third entry. There was also entered in the said Bible: John and Ann Gatewood were married Aug 22, 1782 and Fletcher Gatewood further said on oath that his mother, the said Nancy or Ann Gatewood was and now is indifferently called Nancy and Ann. Peter Fishbourn and Wm HATLER swear that they knew John and Nancy many years; they were reputed to be man and wife and knew their oldest child Dotia who appears to be the age stated in the Bible. The leaf of the Gatewood Bible appeared very old, faded, rather torn and badly defaced as though a child had written all over it but one can make out in addition to what had been given, the following: Pamela? Gatewood born Dec 2, 1785 Arstiley? Gatewood born Jan 11, 1788 Roland Gatewood born Apr 12, 1790 Wiley? Gatewood born Sept 16, 1792, died Aug 4, 1806 Richard B Gatewood, born Jan 5, 1795 Marah/Manah? Gatewood born June 9, 1797 Maria Gatewood born Apr 4, 1799 John F Gatewood born Oct 17, 1801, died April 2, 1802. Fletcher Gatewood born Jan 30, 1805 (Note: I don't have this Bible - this was in the testimony only!) Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Here's what was reported 26 Aug 1954. Betty Jane DECKARD of Atlanta GA, d/o M/M Jesse Deckard of T'ville whose engagement to Robert Edward WOOSTER is anounced. Wedding will take place 1 Sept at the home of the future grandmothers home, Mrs. Kirk Wooster, Sr. The bride to be was a graduate of T'ville High School, is employed by the Citizens and Southern National Bank. He is attending the U of Georgia, Atlanda Divison; employed by the same bank. James Barlow BAXTER was instantly killed Sat eve about 6:30 when the motorcycle which he was riding ploughed into the left front fender of an auto on the T-ville-Moss highway 163. He was the s/o late Barlow Baxter who died 8 Apr 1854 and Mrs. Bessie ARMS Baxter who survives. He was riding at a very high rate of speed when he hit the car of Wilson SPEAR. He was thrown across the ditch into a field. The driver of the car was not injured. Baxter is also survived by 2 sisters; Mrs Elizabeth DUNCAN of Indianapolis and Mrs Virginia DUNBAR of Hestand; two half-sisters - Mrs Bessie Lee MASTERS of Maryville TN and Bernice Baxter of Hestand; two half-brothers- Benton axter of Mt Herman and Bazz Baxter of Hestand. Services at the T'ville Baptist Church by Revs. C E CARTER and Raymond JONES, burial family cemetery near the home. W C LEE dies. Services at Corinth Church of Christ Monday for William C Lee who died 19 Aug; a citizen of the Beautiful Home neighborhook; lived about 1/2 between T'ville and Gamaliel. Services by Bro Douglas DAVIS, burial Harlan's Cross Roads Cemeteryh. Two youths captured by Sheriff Felin FORD following a break-in at the HOLLINSNWORTH and DALE Garage last Fri night. John William COULTER, 17 and Paul ARMS, 23 are residents of Moss TN. They broke a glass window and $17 was taken. Ordination service at Sand Lick Baptist church 29 Aug to ordain Bro Marcus D SHERFEY Jr to the full work of the ministry and Bros Marcus D Sherfey Sr and Amon MARTIN as deacons. Personals: Out of town guests who attended the J H NEWMAN funeral last Thurs were: A N SOUTHERLAND of Louisville, Guy COMER and M/M Fred MAXEY of Nashville, C D TIDWELL of Waverly TN, Mrs James RENICK, Mrs Ida WILLIAMS, Mrs J E SIDDENS, Mrs Randel WRIGHT, M/M Ray PATTERSON and Ralph RICHARDSON of Bowling Green, Dr. Herbert NEWMAN and Clinton NEWMAN of Versailles, James D NEWMAN of Huntington WV, R A PALMORE of Marrowbone, H B SHORT & children and Mrs Hattie B SIDDENS of Park City; Mrs U W SMITH, Mrs Willard GREER and Elvin PEDIGO of Glasgow, Miss Louise CRABTREE of Gamaliel, Lester DONALDSON of Celina TN, M/M H B SRYGLEY of Hermitage Springs TN; M/M Hershel WELLS of Summer Shade and M/M M J NEWMAN of Fllippin. M/M J A WAX of Vinton IA spent weekend at the bedside of his sister, Mrs Della TOOLEY who has been seriously ill. M/M Joe Eagle BUSHONG & son George of Indianapolis were in T'ville recently on their way to Havana, Cuba. When they reached Miama FL they were notified that their daughter, Jane was in the hospital in Indianapolis with polio. The case was mild and she is fully recovered. M/M R T HAGAN & daughters Hettye Lou and Rebekah spend the weekend in Bardwell in Carlysle Co. Mesdames Levi BAILEY and S T HAGAN attended the Initiation of four candidates and the 15th anniversary of Lafayette TN Eastern Star Chapter. M/M Kenneth BURNS & Bob FINN of Lexington were guests of their schoolmate, Miss Hettie Lou HAGAN. Mrs. Levi BAILEY has moved her beauty shop to the basement of the T'ville Drug Co bldg on 3rd street between the beauty shop of Thelma GRAVES and Wayne's Barber Shop. Hospital News: M/M Wm R BUSHONG, T'ville, had a girl named Susan Berneice born 22 Aug. M/M Rondall STEARNS of Route 1 had a girl named Kathy Joan 24 Aug. Patients: Jesse BEAN, Sue BUSHONG and baby, Merlene CARLOCK, Donald CRONE, Nancy DODSON, Jim FEGUSON, Dollie HEADRICK, Rancel ISENBURG, Harris JOHNSON, Opal PAGE, Fannie POINDEXTER, Jennie RAY, Gaynel SMITH, Silcart C SMITH, Eliza SPARS, Allen STEELMAN, Inez STEARNS & baby, Nellie THOMAS, Wilma WHITEHEAD and A W WHITE. Discharged past week: Della TOOLEY, Estel COLLINS, Hulet EMBERTON, Ann ERRANTON & baby, Alta SPEAR, Mitchell Roy RHOTON, Lucile PAGE and baby, Louise OSGATHARP and baby, Dave HIGH, Kate HAMILTON, Wencil GEE, Dana WALDEN and twins, J C COONS, Dottie Kay GOAD, Loucile EATON, Mary SCOTT and Thelma WHITE. To be continued next week with 18 Oct 1956. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

The SCKY list has been migrated to the new system. I hope successfully. You no longer have to the the -L in the mailing address to post a query. If you have a problem, please write me privately and I'll try to muddle through it! Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

A day of remembering for Americans - our thoughts and prayers with those who lost family and friends 5 years ago. Today is the day scheduled for the "migration" of this list to the new mailman processor. Hopefully, you will not see any changes on your end; but as with the other lists, it will take me a little time to get everything set up on the administrative end here. The only change you will need to make after the change is that it will no longer be necessary for you to put the -L in the address when you are making a post. I will send out a msg if and when the list is moved to let you know it has been moved. If you have any problem (such as going on the digest mode when you were on list mode or vice versa), write me privately and I'll change it back over. Charlie has posted the puzzler for the week; last week's response netting only a handful of guesses and Charlie has put up the answer. For this week's puzzler, click on the URL in my signature line called gensoup and give it a try. It will take you to a safe website where you can enter your email addy and your guess and hit send. I am the only one who will receive your answer and I'll try to let you know yes or no the same day. See you tomorrow with some more tidbids of Monroe Co history from the 1950's. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

A look at the members recently posted as members of Blue Springs Baptist Church. G. R. WOOD appears on the 1860 Barren Co in Dist 1, house 382-382; son of J & Margaret WOOD. He was then 9 yrs old. This appears to make him very young to have joined (would have been 15 at joining the church, but is the only G R Wood found. Clement CRAIG is found on the 1860 Metcalfe Co census, house 291-282. At that time he was 65 yrs old and was residing with George O Craig and wife Martha (29 and 21 respectively). Sarah E BARNETT is found on the 1870 Metcalfe Co census, house 101-292; she the wife of Lowery L Barnett, age 36. She was shown then as 33 yrs old; their children were Henry G, 14; George W, 12; Shelby P, 10; John M, 8; Nancy E, 4; Harriet U, 2. Frances LONDON is found on the 1870 Metcalfe Co Census that might be the individual cited; living in Lafayette, house 1-1. Her husband was William H, 32 who owned a retail dry goods store. She was 30 at that time and they had James C, 7; Thomas STEWART (so shown), 3; Eugene S, 3; Clarence E, 1 and some Black help. J F MORTON is shown on the 1870 Barren Co census in the Hiseville precinct, house 238-229. He was then 32, farmer, born TN. His wife was Mary, 30 and they had Derastas, 9; Edward, 5; Marshall, 2; Haiden M 1. E F B HATCHETT is found on the 1870 Barren Co census, Hiseville, house 110-105. He was 35, farmer, born KY; his wife Gertrude was 28. They had Clarence, 4, William Z, 2. H C SLINKER is found on the 1870 Metcalfe census, house 326-316; shown as Henry C. Slinker. He was 35, a blacksmith born KY. His wife Melinda was 48 and they had one child, William. There was also a Sary J. Slinker residing with them. Peter and Louisa CLINE are found on the 1870 Metcalfe census, house 340-328. He is 38, a farmer, born TN; she is 37, born KY. Thy had Marion H, (male), Arrena J, Emily J, John Floid, and Cyrus. James W SLINKER is found on the 1870 Metcalfe census, house 357-345; age 24, farmer, born KY. His wife was Mary E, 23 and they had a daughter Naomi G, 4. David M GALLOWAY is on the 1870 Metcalfe Co census, house 350-338. He was 35, farmer, born KY. His wife was Melvina W, 25. Theyhad Eugene P, 11; Udora E, 9; Mary M, 8; Laura, 7; and William A. 3. to be continued next Monday. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

DNA discussions are generally discouraged from the rootsweb lists but Sandi has given me permission to post the following information. If you have any questions, please contact me privately, off-list, to keep a discussion on DNA from getting started on this list. I can be reached at crart02@yahoo.com. An Arterburn DNA Project has been launched at Family Tree DNA with the goal of attempting to determine if Arterburn, Otterburn, or Arthaber surnames/family lines share a common ancestor. The project page can be visited at: http://www.familytreedna.com/(vtiiyz30tywqvl55unef5e45)/public/Arterburn/index.aspx Thanks, Charles R. Arterburn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I recently learned of google placing thousands of newspapers on line. It was discussed by Eastman in his daily column (get on his list, it's free and it's good). The link to his website is below. http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2006/09/google_offers_o.html He explains the new google service and has a link to googlenewspapers. In brief, it's great, but partial. You can do a search for a name and it will give you an abstract of part of the article. To get the entire article, you have to pay $2-5 dollars from the paper it appeared in. Sometimes the abstract gives you a lot of info, something just a blurb. I did a quick search on Gorin - 12,000 some entries and I found a lawsuit in Jefferson Co in 1865, a divorce in the early 1900's, and several other great articles. But, I couldn't afford to order them all - I THINK once you submit payment on line, they'll open up the entire article for you online. I don't like the paying part but it's great to know if someone you're looking for is listed - then it's up to you! Now - another "goodie" Google also has thousands of books on line! Go to: http://books.google.com/ I had to work my way through this one. IF the book is out of copyright, the entire book is there and you can download it to your computer and/or print it off. If it's still under copyright, they will just show you the page(s) where your surname is listed, but many times that is enough. When you do your search (under the box where you type in the surname) you can have it search for ALL references to that name (or location or event likely), or just for the ones that are downloadable. I did my Gorin search and found about 7 hits that I could print off. I didn't need the whole book at this time, just the citation. Some of the books go back to the mid 1800's. Just for your info ... Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

>From: "Thelma" <sugarman@fuse.net> >To: <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> >Subject: >Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 09:35:35 -0400 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 >X-pstn-levels: (S:11.25599/99.90000 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) >X-pstn-settings: 5 (2.0000:2.0000) s gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c >X-pstn-addresses: from <sugarman@fuse.net> [3992/183] >X-RCPT-TO: <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> >X-IMail-ThreadID: 788b02910000248a >X-NAS-Language: English >X-NAS-Bayes: #0: 1.26956E-024; #1: 1 >X-NAS-Classification: 0 >X-NAS-MessageID: 3607 >X-NAS-Validation: {8659653F-67A5-47FC-85F5-EC0E6871CF22} > >Trying to find a will for Jane Keel, died May 1880, Barren County. > >Thank You >Thelma Hill > > > > Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I just wanted to take a minute and update you on the progress of migrating all the rootsweb lists; it has been rather a confusing time but we're all muddling through. Since many of you are on my other lists, I'll cover them too. KYBIOGRAPHIES was migrated safely. However, until rootsweb gets the time, this "closed list" (not open to queries) has to be moderated so it is not overwhelmed with queries or spam. Once I make a post and send it out, I must go to the administsration pages for the list and "release" the email to the list. This list no longer requires the -L in the address which I had to do temporarily during the switch. KYRESEARCH was migrated safely. Same thing as above. Thank you also for all the kind words on my current series of posts on 20 Lessons Genealogists Need to Know ... this seems to be hitting home with a lot of us! KYBARREN was migrated safely. It no longer requires the -L in the name when you make a post to the list. The KYBARREN board is still "gatewayed" to the list meaning that when one makes a post to the board, it is automatically posted to the list also. Sometimes this does not work and I need to go to the administration site for the list and release the email so it will go to the list. SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY was supposed to be switched over on the 6th, but due to the holiday and fixing problems, this migration has been delayed now until the 11th. I'm hoping there will be no problems with it! After the migration, it will not be necessary for any of us to put the -L in the address (which was just temporary during this transition). I have set, on the administration side, the maximum number of "bounces" before one is removed from the list at 5. This means if an email is refused by your server because of various problems 5 times, you will be unsubscribed. This can include things like your mailbox being full, closed accounts, temporary glitches, etc. I set it at 5 (it was set at 4 previously) which hopefully will catch temporary problems which will be solved before your name is removed from the list. Digest vs list mode. As you know, you can subscribe to any rootsweb list in two modes - either digest or list. Digest means that you will receive fewer posts with several emails in one post, rather than receiving each post as it is made. On the list format - you receive the posts as they are sent. Sometimes, in this migration, some have been changed accidentally from one mode to the other. If you are now receiving posts in list mode where you subbed in digest mode or vice versa, let me know and I will switch you back (on all but the SCKY list which hasn't been migrated yet). I think that covers it - for now! There are always problems in such a massive conversion (many of you have worked in the computer/programming field and know this!), but all in all, I think this has gone smoother than I anticipated. No posts tomorrow on Friday so I wish you all a great weekend and if you haven't tried your hand at the puzzler for the week, try it! The response has been very low this week during a long holiday. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/