I am just now getting caught up on reading, due to having recent surgery. I am intrigued as to which Thomas N. Pace was married to. Was Mary the wife of the Thomas N. Pace, born 1801, died 1893, who was married to sisters Docia Williams and Mary Williams? Or was she the wife of Thomas N. Pace, born 1811, died 1880, who married Mary Anderson? Or was it a different Thomas N. Pace that I don't have in my data base? Any ideas? Thanks! Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: <south-central-kentucky-request@rootsweb.com> To: <south-central-kentucky@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 7 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Jackson County Site (Cissy1963@aol.com) > 2. MARY PACE'S SLAVES 1837 (Sandi Gorin) > 3. ELIZABETH WRIGHT, SETTLER, 1809 (Sandi Gorin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:08:35 EDT > From: Cissy1963@aol.com > Subject: [SCKY] Jackson County Site > To: KYJACKSO-L@rootsweb.com, EASTERNKENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com, > SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <332.868da80.32484dd3@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I would like to address a problem brought to my attention: > > "Several years ago, I submitted information on my families in Jackson > County, including marriages, births, and deaths, but they were never > input. > Looking through the records today on the revamped site, it seems that > there are > only records that have been submitted by you and two or three other > people. Is > that all the people that have tried to submit items or are other people > not > allowed to submit things?" > > First of all, Carol and I accept any and all information from anyone who > is > willing to donate it. We apologize if anyone has felt otherwise. Whether > that > information is just a picture or two, a family tree or biography, we are > not > picky and do not discriminate. We are always happy with everything we > receive from you and don't care who you are, as long as what you send is > accurate > to the best of your knowledge. For all of you who have donated > information in > the past, please take a moment to visit the Jackson County site. If your > information cannot be found, please let Carol or I know. We cannot stress > enough > how much the site relies on all of you out there and your generosity with > your family information. > > > Sarah (Cissy) Thompson / Jackson County, Ky Coordinator > Carol Hurst / Jackson County, Ky Assistant Coordinator > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 16:40:45 -0500 > From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> > Subject: [SCKY] MARY PACE'S SLAVES 1837 > To: SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rootsweb.com > Cc: KYBARREN@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20060924164045.00b0a348@mail.glasgow-ky.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > "The following is a List of Slaves which I hold a Life Estate in the > rights > of My dec'd wife, Mary Pace, late Mary Turner, they having increased since > first listed. > > Jim, a woman between 47 & 52 years old > Sarah, a woman ~~~~~~~ 37 & 42 ~~~ > Harriet, Girl ~~~~~ 10 & 12 ~~~~~ > Clay, boy ~~~~~ 8 & 10 ~~~~~ > Henry, boy ~~~~~6 & 8 ~~~~~ > Jane, girl ~~~~~ 6 & 8 ~~~~~ > Julia, girl ~~~~~ 5 & 7 ~~~~~ > Caroline Elizabeth ~~~~~ 3 & 4 ~~~~~ > Elbert, boy ~~~~~ under 1 year old > > Given under my hand this 21st day of March 1857. /s/ Thos N. Pace > > Barren County Sct. March 21st 1857. The foregoihng list of slaes of Mary > Pace decd., was this day produced to me in my office & ordered to be > recorded. /s/ Travis Cockrill CBCC" > > > Sandi's Puzzlers: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html > SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html > GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 21:09:48 -0500 > From: Sandi Gorin <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> > Subject: [SCKY] ELIZABETH WRIGHT, SETTLER, 1809 > To: SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rootsweb.com > Cc: KYBARREN@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.20060924210948.00b0a348@mail.glasgow-ky.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > CHARLES SCOTT, ESQ Governor of the Commonwealth of Kentucky. > TO ALL TO WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME - GREETING: > > KNOW YE, That by virtue and in consideration of a certificate No. 1576 > granted by the Commissioners in 1798 agreeably, to an act of assembly, for > encouraging and granting relief to settlers _____ > > there is granted by the said commonwealth unto Elizabeth Wright, a certain > tract or Parcel of LAND containing Two hundred acres by survey being date > the 27th day of August 1799 lying, and being in the County of Barren on > the > South fork of Bever (sic) creek and bounded as followeth Towit: Beginning > on a buckeye and beech James Franklins corner on Bells Military line > thence > with Bells line North 33 East 138 poles to the corner, poplar and maple > thence West 75 poles to a beech then with a line supposed to be Walkers > North 19 East 200 poles to a sugartree and poplar in said line thence > North > 62 West 172 Poles to a beech and dogwood thence South 6 East 240 poles > binding on Jacob Wrights line 135 poles to his corner with Jajmes Franklin > a white walnut beech and gum thence South 27 East 133 poles with James > Franklins line to the Beginning. > > With its apurtances: TO HAVE AND TO HOLD the said Tract or Parcel of LAND, > with its appurtances, to the said Elizabeth Wright and her heirs forever. > > In Witness Whereof, the said Charles Scott, Esq. governor of the > Commonwealth of Kentucky, hath hereunto set his hand, and caused the Seal > of the said Commonwealth to be affixed at Frankfort on the Sixth day of > January in the year of our Lord one thousand Eight hundred and Nine and of > the Commonwealth the Seventeenth. > > By the Governor Chs. Scott > Jesse Bledsoe Secretary > A Copy Teste: John M. > foster, Regt (water smear) > By Thoms J. Helm Deputy Reg > ___" > > > > Sandi's Puzzlers: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html > SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html > GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY list administrator, send an email to > SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY mailing list, send an > email to SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 7 > **************************************************** > >

In the news 14 Mar 1957 Deaths: Lillie Grider PITCOCK, 77, died at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Edwin MILLER of Bowling Green 7 Mar 1957. Born 13 Dec 1879, member Church of the Latter Day Saints, preceded in death by husband, Ben Pitcock, 14 years ago. Survived by three brothers: Hade GRIDER of Woodburn KY, Ben Grider of Chicago IL and Victor Grider of Summer Shade. Also by three sisters, Mrs Venia RICHARDSON and Mrs Lula WOLFE, both of Chicago Heights IL and Hattie TINDER of Ft Wayne IN. Half-sister: Mrs Laverne CAWTHORNE of Summer Shade & three grandchildren. Services March 9, Old Mt Hermon Church, Bro Ervin SCOTT in charge, burial Old Mt Hermon Cemetery, McMurtrey Funeral Home in charge of arrangements. Julia Elnora BELCHER, 84, passed away at the home of a grandson, Elmer Beclher, Route 3, T'ville. Daughter of the late John & Martha STRODE BIGGERS; widow of James F Belcher. Survivors: Son, Frank of T'ville; daughter, Mrs. Clonie WHITE of Green City MO; 7 granchildren, 17 great-grandchildren. Services Skaggs Creek 9 Mar, 1 pm, Bro Tom CLEMMONS in charge; burial Skaggs Creek Cemetery, Yokley Funeral Home. Sam L DYER, native of Monroe Co who had been living in Mabank TX died 12 Feb 1957. He had been married to Ermin POOR in 1886, was 90 yrs old at death. Wife preceded him in death 12 yrs ago. Survived by 2 daugthers, Mrs Gertrude TADE of Hestand, KY and Mrs Oscar BOONE of Moss TN; one son, Ados DYER of Hestand. John Nelson CROWE, died at his home in Ebenezer Community 5 Mar 1957; son of the late Nelson & Betty FORD Crowe; 82 yrs old. Survived by his wife, Mrs Minnie Belle Crowe; two sons, Hubert of Indianapolis and Huston of Louisville KY. Services by bro Clurie REAGAN & Bro Jessie ADAMS at Ebenezer Baptist Church 8 Mar; burial Ebenezer Cemetery; Yokley Funeral Home. Hospital News: M/M Lenard Levie LOYD, Route 2 Summer Shade, have a baby girl born 7 Mar. M/M Ervin TOOLEY of Fountain Run have a baby girl, Rachel, born 8 Mar. M/M John Smith KING, Route 2 Red Boiling Springs, son named John Mark 10 Mar and M/M Ed KENDALL of Moss TN, a girl 10 Mar named Verlina Van. Patients admitted: Ralph BEASLEY, Eddie F BILLINGSLEY, Earl BRANDON, Kathy Lee BROWN, Sarah BROWN, Janicw CHERRY, Laura CHERRY, Claude CLEMENTS, Claude COMPTON, Virgil DECKARD, Stanley GRAY Jr, Joe JACKSON, Betty KEITH, Mary Ann KEY, Gracie KING, Carolyn MELTON, Luther MILLER, Jo Ann PROFFITT, Roy PRUITT, Ina RAY, Talmage RICH, Glathe SHORT, Barlow STRONG, Chester TURNER. Dicharged: Mark SHRUM, Eva LONG, Patsy YORK, Woodrow WELCH, Lizzie HAMMER, Fred LAWSON, Effie M COPLAIN, Alene HATCHER, Nelda Sue THOMAS, Arlene HATCHER, Nelda Sue THOMAS, Arlene TRIFFETT, Melvina CROWE, Rosa BURKS, Mary Doyle BROWN, Oak FINLEY, Terry BARTLEY, Lawrence Taylor EMMERT, Ruth THOMAS, James Otto CURTIS, Delma Lee TOOLEY, Mary Katheirne SIMMONS, Cleta TURNER, Gladiola Mai CRABTREE, Nora DENEHAM, Lou Turner SHIVE, Debbie HOPKINS, Pearl NEWMAN, Shirley BOWMAN, Louella PENNINGTON, Wanda GLOVER, Bessie Edith LOYD, Janelle MOORE, Jesse HAMILTON, Comer E HURD, Roger Douglas GILLENWATER, Jerry Dale ROUSE, Martha Jean BOWMAN, Nol KENDALL, Benton THOMPSON, Jimmy Neal KERR, Madelle KING, Katherine Ann PALMORE. T'ville Basketball team won 5th Regional Basketball Tournament at Bowling Green. Photo of players include Prentice STANFORD, Jimmie RAMSEY, John TAYLOR, Charles MILLER, J E PETETT, assistant coach Cecil PETETT, Carley BARTLEY, Danny CARTER, Marvin BILLINGSLEY, Jack McCLENDON, Joe PETETT, Larry TOOLEY and Coach John C. Marrs. Robert REECER, T'ville honored at his firms Central East District Sales Conference in Cincinnati as sales rep for Hardware Mutuals of Stevens Point Wisconsins. Outstanding sales, third yr he has been a sales leader. Most of this issue was on the basketball tournament. To be continued next week with news from 10 Apr 1958. I have papers going thru abt 1966, I'm thinking of stopping in the 50's unless you want to see more. It's up to you. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

In case you didn't see George Eastman's genealogy newsletter today, the Mormon Church has announced some changes on their Family History site which many of us use. The article can be found at the below URL. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650194998,00.html Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

The following concludes the residents of the County Farm in Barren Co 1860-1900. These are only those shown on the census records 1860 thru 1900. Shown is the approximate year of birth, state of birth, marital status if shown and census record from which obtained. Sandi Gammon, Matilda (B) ca 1825 KY ____ 1880 not shown pauper Gates, James ca 1830 ____ ____ 1880 idiotic Hart, Dafney (B) ca 1790 VA ____ 1860 Hester, Jacob ___ 1844 unknown Single 1900 Holman, Albert ca 1801 VA ____ 1870 Huckby, Elender ca 1795 VA ____ 1860 {Huckaby, Eliza ca 1816 ____ ____ 1870 {Huckaby, Eliza A ca 1816 KY ____ 1880 Huckaby, JosA ca 1784 VA ____ 1860 Jones, Harriet (B) ca 1836 ____ _____ 1870 Jones, James W ca 1869 ____ Single 1870 s/o pauper Linden, Polly ca 1836 KY ____ 1860 Linder, Elizth. ca 1820 OH ____ 1860 Linder, Sally ca 1836 KY ____ 1860 Martin, Isaac ca 1808 KY ____ 1880 McFela, Reba Ca 1768 MD ____ 1860 Blind Merfey, Fannie ____1855 KY Widowed 1900 Middleton, Harry ca 1806 VA ____ 1880 Blind Miller, Emily (Mulatto) ca 1845 TN ____ 1880 Miller, Hense (B) ca 1875 KY Single 1880 s/o Emily Miller, Martha (B) ca 1876 KY Single 1880 s/o Emily Moore, Reuben (B) ca 1807 VA ____ 1880 Nifong, Ephraim Jos. ca 1811 KY ____ 1880 not shown pauper Padgett, Mary A ca 1845 TN ____ 1880 Padgett, Nathan ca 1808 TN ____ 1880 Padgett, William ca 1844 KY ____ 1880 Peers, Enoch ca 1878 KY Single 1880 s/o Sally Peers, Rosa L ca 1875 KY Single 1880 d/o Sally Peers, Sally ca 1850 KY ____ 1880 Ragland, Sarah ca 1846 TN ____ 1880 Richardson, David ca 1760 VA ____ 1870 110 yrs old Smith, Luvina Dec 1825 KY Widowed 1900 Steffey, Mary ca 1830 KY ____ 1880 Stephens, James ca 1790 VA ____ 1870 {Thompson, Mary E ca 1853 KY ____ 1860 {Thompson, Mary E ____1855 KY Single 1900 Walker, Harriet ____1825 KY Widowed 1900 Walker, Harriet A ca 1835 KY w/o Samuel 1880 cooks & Assists - not shown pauper {Walker, Samuel ca 1839 KY ____ 1870 {Walker, Samuel ca 1840 KY Married 1880 West, Mary ca 1825 KY ____ 1860 Wilson, Elizabeth ca 1802 KY ____ 1880 Wilson, Rececca ca 1820 OH ____ 1860 {Wilson, Richd. ca 1783 VA ____ 1860 {Wilson, Richard ca 1783 VA ____ 1870 Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

We slid right into Oct now with only 3 months to go in 2006, mercy! This will end the 10th year that I've been posting for rootsweb too, plus about 3 yrs before that with maiser. A lot of data over the years which I hope has helped. Charlie has posted the puzzler for the week; hope you enjoy this one! If you want to give it a try, click on the URL in my signature line called gensoup and give it a try. For the next 2 weeks I am going to be quieter on the list (except my daily posts). On Oct 14th I will be speaking at the joint session of the KY Historical Society and KY Genealogical Society in Frankfort KY on the topic of genealogical publishing. I am getting prepared for that plus the Green Co Book Fair the first Sat in November. The KY Historical Society has ordered a huge amount of my books and I am working on that also, plus a Barren Co Cemetery Board meeting, etc. etc. So, I'm keeping busy! I wish you a great week and I'll see you tomorrow with Monroe Co newspaper tidbits. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Thank you to all that responded. The consenus is that it is probably US. Rachel RL <proex_99@yahoo.com> wrote: In a Rockcastle County census record I came across B Jessie with the parents birthplace given as what appears to be W S. What does it mean? Rachel --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

In a Rockcastle County census record I came across a Jessie with the parents birthplace given as what appears to be W S. What does it mean? Rachel --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.

William Siddens was born in the 1770s, perhaps near Philadelphia. He married Rachel Stockton, eventually settled in Barren, perhaps in the part that later became Allen, and died in 1856. It is quite possible, even probable, that William is the brother of James Siddens. James came with his family to Barren early in the 1800s, staying until c 1825, at which time he lost his property for taxes and he moved to Indiana. I am seeking information about the ancestry of William. Note: some sources give William's dob as 01 April 1777. This is incorrect, for it is the dob of James, as found on James's headstone in Indiana. Duane Lamers, Troy, Michigan --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

Note: Metcalfe Co will be at the Green Co Book Fair also. The following is transcribed from the original document. "Agreeably to an order of the Barren County Court, at their Decemter term for 1849. The undersigned Commissioners preceding to divide the estate, Real and pesonal of Thomas W. WADE deceased among the children of Fielding T WADE acording to the last will and Testament of said Thomas W. WADE, Decd., being first sworn, in manner and form following towit: They first proceded to appraise and divide the slaves belonging to said estate, as shown to them, dividing them into four equal lots viz in the first lot; Ned, $650. Billy $675. Nancy $500, Jane $350. Marion $350. Peggy $350. Oliver $250 and Ann Virginia $150 making a total valuation of this first lot for $3275. In the second lot Daniel $700, Henry Clay $500, Edy $500, Rhoda & child Cynthia $700, Nathan $400, Sophia $250, Thomas Jefferson $200 making a total valuation of the Second lot $32.50. In the third lot, Charles $650, Monroe $650, Kitty the Elder $500, Mary $600, Kitty the less $200, Sarah $300, Malinda & child George Harrison $200 making a total valuation of the third lot $3100 - and according to agreement amongst the heirs, Fanny was added to the third lot for $99.995/00 which makes this 3rd lot $3199.95. In the fourth lot is Jourdan $650, Spencer $650, Lucinda $500, Matilda and child Louisa $550, Harriet $400, Austin $250 and Sarah Frances $200 making a total valuation of the fourth lot $3200 making a grand total of $12924.95 - so that each share of one equal part is $3231.23 3/4 - By which it will appear that lot #1 will have to pay back $43.76 1/4 - and that lot No. 2 will have to pay back $18.76 1/4 - and that lot No. 3 lacks up an equal share of $31.28 3/4 - and that lot No. 4 lacks of an equal shire $31.23 3/4. It should be here noted, that George an old man of about 75 years of age, and Lewis, who is sick, and worthless by reason of his sickness supposed to be consumpton and not valued at anything - The other heirs present offering to take George at any thing - William & Wade, by agreement with them to with: B. S. WOLF and J. E. EDWARDS offered to take care of George without charge, and Wolf & Edwards again undertook to do so, whereupon George is to go with the lot that Williams may draw - also it is to be noted that no one of the heirs would agree to take Lewis, at no value, whereupon Lewis was put up amongs the heirs, at the lowest bidder, to take Lewis and take care of him, and Wm. E. WADE, being the lowest bidder again to take Lewis for $45 to be paid equally by the four heirs, being $11.27 that each one of the heirs must pay to Wm. to which Wolf and Edwards agreed - William acting as committee for Preston M WADE so that Lewis is also to be added to Williams lot. The first Lot was then drawn by James E EDWARDS who is to pay back the sum of $43.76 1/4 - and William E WADE Committee for Preston M WADE, drew for Preston Lot No. 2, and has (to) pay back as Committee as aforesaid the sum of $18.76 1/4 - and Martha I WOLF and her husband drew Lot No. 3, and is to redceive of the amount so paid back to make the lots equal $21.28 3/4 - and WM. E WADE drew for himself Lot No 4 and is to receive of the amount paid back $31.23 3/4 - All which as respects the slaves is respectfully reported to Court 29th Decr 1849. /s/ J A COOKE, John ALLEN, Jas G HARVY, Uberto WRIGHT, W ANDERSON. Allowance to J A Cook two days, same for other Commissiioners - no amounts entered. Barren Conty Sct December Term 1850. The foregoing division & allotment of slaves of Thos. W. WADE decd between the heirs of Fielding T WADE was returned to Court and ordered to be recorded. /s/ Travis COCKRILL, CBCC." "Recorded Book 6, Page 190." Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

MUNFORD: Thomas, 81 yrs, 7 mos, 3 dys, resided & died Barren Co, born Amelia Co VA, s/o Thomas and Jane, southside, old age "worn out", 18 June 1854. MURRAY: Alfred, 1 mo, 3 days s/o R D & Mary J, northside, typhoid, 19 Sept 1856. Alner A J, 27, single, c/o Eli & Ann, fever, 2 Mar 1853. Ann, 76, married, d/o Thomas & Tabitha GOOCH, southside, pneumonia, 13 Dec 1859. Fannie, 76, widow, old age, 26 Dec 1907. Julia Ann, 25 yrs, 4 mos, 26 days, married, d/o Jocelin & Elizabeth, northside, typhoid, 2 Oct 1854. Murri?, 1, female, d/o B W & Laura (KY-KY), pneumonia, 29 Dec 1904. MURREY: Samuel A, 10 yrs, 11 mos, 13 days, northside, s/o Samuel & Mary (Green-Hart), dyptheria, 7 Oct 1861. Slave Mariah, 33 yrs, 6 mos, born Barren Co, owned by Matilda Murrey, 18 Feb 1855. MURRELL: Arthur Brown, 13, shown female, born Barren Co, s/o Jefferson STOVALL (Barren-Hart), consumption, 8 Mar 1877. So shown. Samuel, 32 yrs, 5 mos, 17 days, single, born Lincoln Co KY, s/o of (blank) & Elizabeth, northside, typhoid, 23 Apr 1858. Slave Caroline, 11 days, copper colored, 1 yr, 11 mos, 1 day, born Adair Co, owned by Elizabeth MURRELL, northside,croup, 11 Jan 1854. MUSTAIN: Mary J, 34 yrs, 10 mos, 14 days, married, d/o J B & E J WILLIS, southside, erysipilas, 16 Mar 1858. McAKMAN?, Slave ___ Eliza, 1 yr, owned b WIlliam C McAKMAN?, infant choelra, July 1852. McAHRAM?, Samuel B, 3 mos,10 days,s/o W C & Susan, northside, 15 Nov 1859. McCANDLESS, John A T, 10 mos, 11 days, s/o Hugh M & Sarah O, southside, measles, 10 Nov 1854. McCALL/McCAUL: Benjamin J, 63 yrs, 8 mos, born Richmond VA, s/o William, typhoid, 6 Nov 1852. Fannie, black, 2, d/o George K& Bettie (Hart-Hart), scrofula, Sept 1877 Florence, 6 mos, d/o George & Betttie (KY-KY), brain fever,14 Aug 1874. Not shown black here. McCONNELL, No First, 7 days, female, d/o John W & E F (TN-KY), 7 mo birth, 12 July 1876. McCLURE, Samuel, 60, married, machinist, born PA, s/o Seth & Mary, pneumonia, 1 Mar 1875. McCUBBIN, John T, 4 mos, 21 days, s/o E G & Lucinda E, northside, infant cholera, 31 Aug 1858. McCUBBIN, Nancy S, 2 yrs, 5 days, d/o Joshu B & Mary, northside, hydroephelis, 15 Aug 1858. McDOWELL, James, 4 ys, 6 mos, s/o William & Martha, northside, 11 Aug 1856. McDOWELL, John, 3, s/o James W & Martha, northside, 27 Sept 1856. McFELA, No first, 0 age, c/o M T & Flora (KY-KY), 23 July 18__ McHATTON, Hetty, 18, single, consumption, 16 Apr 1874. McHATTON, Maria, 1 mo, 4 days, d/o Alex & A M, northside, croup, 1 Oct 1856. McINTEER, Sarah A, 23 yrs, 6 mos, 6 days, married, d/o Silas & Margaret PAYTON, southside, erysipilas, 15 Oct 1859. McKINNEY, F M, 65?, male, married, s/o John and a MORE? (VA-KY), fever?, 16 Apr 1893. McKINNEY, Lewis M, 4 mos, s/o Franklin & Susan, southside, croup, 15 Oct 1858. To be continued next week with NEWCOMER. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Add two h's and "Wic" probably simply means "which". " I will that no part of my estate real or personal shall be sold but kept together in the possession of my beloved wife Jane McIntire for the support and maintenance of her and my children out of which also i will that all of my children, to wit, Ann McIntire, Elizabeth..." I notice that the "h" was also omitted from the word "choice..." and in one place from the word "heirs". Elaine > ----- Original Message ----- From: <wwalker@iglou.com> To: "Green County Historical Society" <KYGREEN-D@rootsweb.com>; <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: [SCKY] What does this mean? > > In the following will, the words: > > ...for the support and maintenance of her and my children out of wic? > > What does this mean??? > > Any informat, very much appreciated > > Wayne Walker in Louisville, KY > > > I copied John McIntire's will word for word as listed in the "Wills of > Washington County" book at the Kentucky History Center here in Frankfort. > > Washington County, Kentucky Wills > > McIntyre, Thomas 22 May 1795 > > Thomas McAntire 22 May 1795 > > September 3, 1795 > > > Being weak and infirm, etc. > > First I will and bequeath to my beloved wife Jane McAntire > one third part of all horses, cattle, sheep, hogs, as well as of the > household furniture and one hundred acres of land. Her coice of my tract > on Cartwright Creek to include half of the cleared land the dwelling > house and orchard to run so as not to cross the creek for her during her > natural life and after her death to return to my estate and to be divided > maong my children. As the balance of my estate hereinafter mentioned. > > I will that no part of my estate real or personal shall be > sold but kept together in the possession of my beloved wife Jane McIntire > > > for the support and maintenance of her and my children out of wic? also > > > > i will that all of my children, to wit, Ann McIntire, Elizabeth > McIntire, Thomas McIntire, Henry McIntire, and Dennis William McIntire > that is not already schooled shall be tolerably well, and that > particularly John Small McIntire owing to an infirmity shall be learned > to understand arithmetic and book keeping well. > > I will that when any or either of my children above mentioned > shall marry or come of age if they choose shall be entitled to their > equal proportion of the balance of my estate both real and personal to > them and their eirs and assignees forever. And if it is found convenient > my will is that they be furnished with a riding creature, briddle and > saddle in part of their part of my estate. My daughter Ann McIntire > having the possession of a sorrell mare called munro if she pleases to > take her she is to do so but not the colt she is now with, which mare is > to be valued and Ann to amount to the estate for so much received on her > part of my estate. Also my daughter Elizabeth McIntire if she chooses is > to have a two year bay colt whish is also to be valued at so much of her > part of my estate. > > I will that is any of my children shall die before they come > of age or marry that their proportion of my estate shall be divided among > the survivors of my children and their heirs in the same manner before > mentioned. > > lastly I do appoint my beloved wife Jane McIntire executrix > and Matthew Walton Executor to my last will and testament in witness > whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal the twenty second > day of May 1795. > > > > Witnesses: > > James Neally > > George Grundy > > William Astren Thomas McIntire > > John Mcintire Book A, Page 48 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here, as promised, is the information on the Green Co Book Fair. I hope to see you there! Sandi The book fair is November 4, 8:30 to 3:00 CST at the Green County Fire and Rescue Bldg on East Hodgenville Ave, one block off Main St behind the Baptist Church; turn between the church and PBI Bank. 1. Ancestral Trails Historical Society 2. Barbara Wright - Green County 3. Green County Genealogical Society 4. Colleen Olson 5. McDowell Publishing 6. Larue Co. Genealogy Soc. 7. Michael Watson 8. Kentucky Historical Soc (set up by Mike Watson) 9. Debbie Gilpin - Green and Taylor Co. 10. Joseph DeSpain - Green Co. 11. Adair Co. Genealogical Soc. 12. Sandi Gorin Publications 13. Green County Public Library Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

According to the book, A To Zax by Evans, wic means week. Mary June

I have assembled some information that is suggestive of a relationship between three South Central Kentucky and Jackson County Tennessee families but I need further information to prove the relationships. I would appreciate help from anyone familiar with the Kentucky Reagan, Ragan and Harrison families. There is a marriage bond from Barren County, KY dated June 13, 1808 for the marriage of a William Morrel and Betsey Regin or Rigin. The bondsman is Jesse Harrison. [Both the Morrel and Harrison signatures are extremely clear.] John Mulkey married this couple on June 14, 1808. This places the marriage in extreme southern Barren County, now Tompkinsville in Monroe County where Mulkey's church was located. The William Morrel is likely the William Morrel, a widower, who moved to northern Jackson County, Tennessee sometime before 1813. He was born in Virginia between 1750 and 1754. There is an Elizabeth Harrison Ragan or Reagan the widow of Daniel Reagan who died in 1805 in Christian County. She was born in 1767. Elizabeth and Daniel were married in Greene County, Tennessee on June 23, 1788, as was a Jesse Harrison (to Mary Gist). A Nehemiah Cravens Reagan is listed in the 1820 Jackson County, Tennessee census. There are undocumented sources on line that say he was the son of Daniel Reagan and Elizabeth Harrison. A Jessee Harrison appears on the Barren County, Kentucky 1810 census. In addition, a Jesse Ragan was in Bailey Butler’s Jackson County, Tennessee militia company in 1813-1814. The circumstantial evidence seems strong that all of these people are related but just how is not clear. Specifically, these pieces of information suggest the possibility that the Betsey Regin or Rigin who married William Morrel in 1808 was Elizabeth Ragan or Reagan, the widow of Daniel and that Jesse Harrison who signed the marriage bond might have been Elizabeth's relative -- perhaps a brother. Is anyone enough of a family expert on the early Barren County Harrisons to confirm any of this? Many thanks, John John Newton Morrel morcor@comcast.net

In the following will, the words: ...for the support and maintenance of her and my children out of wic? What does this mean??? Any informat, very much appreciated Wayne Walker in Louisville, KY I copied John McIntire's will word for word as listed in the "Wills of Washington County" book at the Kentucky History Center here in Frankfort. Washington County, Kentucky Wills McIntyre, Thomas 22 May 1795 Thomas McAntire 22 May 1795 September 3, 1795 Being weak and infirm, etc. First I will and bequeath to my beloved wife Jane McAntire one third part of all horses, cattle, sheep, hogs, as well as of the household furniture and one hundred acres of land. Her coice of my tract on Cartwright Creek to include half of the cleared land the dwelling house and orchard to run so as not to cross the creek for her during her natural life and after her death to return to my estate and to be divided maong my children. As the balance of my estate hereinafter mentioned. I will that no part of my estate real or personal shall be sold but kept together in the possession of my beloved wife Jane McIntire for the support and maintenance of her and my children out of wic? also i will that all of my children, to wit, Ann McIntire, Elizabeth McIntire, Thomas McIntire, Henry McIntire, and Dennis William McIntire that is not already schooled shall be tolerably well, and that particularly John Small McIntire owing to an infirmity shall be learned to understand arithmetic and book keeping well. I will that when any or either of my children above mentioned shall marry or come of age if they choose shall be entitled to their equal proportion of the balance of my estate both real and personal to them and their eirs and assignees forever. And if it is found convenient my will is that they be furnished with a riding creature, briddle and saddle in part of their part of my estate. My daughter Ann McIntire having the possession of a sorrell mare called munro if she pleases to take her she is to do so but not the colt she is now with, which mare is to be valued and Ann to amount to the estate for so much received on her part of my estate. Also my daughter Elizabeth McIntire if she chooses is to have a two year bay colt whish is also to be valued at so much of her part of my estate. I will that is any of my children shall die before they come of age or marry that their proportion of my estate shall be divided among the survivors of my children and their heirs in the same manner before mentioned. lastly I do appoint my beloved wife Jane McIntire executrix and Matthew Walton Executor to my last will and testament in witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my seal the twenty second day of May 1795. Witnesses: James Neally George Grundy William Astren Thomas McIntire John Mcintire Book A, Page 48

Can any of you help on this query? If you can, I'd appreciate it and you'll need to write directly to the individual as they are not on these lists. Thanks! Sandi From: Duane/Rita Lamers <kglamers@yahoo.com> Subject: Siddens family My ancestors James Siddens and wife Sarah Graves moved to Indiana from Barren (Allen) about 1825. I am trying to do more research on the Siddens line and cannot get past James's birth in 1777. I believe he had brothers William and Joseph. The three allegedly are sons of William and Jeanne Carr Siddons of Philadelphia, married in 1766, but I have seen no documentation to prove this connection. If you have any information on William or Joseph, I would be interested in hearing from you. Duane Lamers Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Name is spelled Harrison and Harrisson. North Carolina, W2934 Covering jacket: Kentucky ... 19581. Richard HARRISON of Allen Co, Private in the company of Captain SMITH, regiment of Col McDOWELL in NC line for 6 months. Inscribed on KY Roll at $20 per year to begin 4 March 1831. Certificate of pension issued 24 Sept 1833. Kentucky 8362. Rachel HARRISON, widow of Richard HARRISON, inscribed on KY Roll at $20 per year to begin 6 May 1838. Certificate of Pension Issued 2 May 1844. Allen Co KY, 10 June 1833. Richard HARRISON, aged 69 states that his first tour of duty was as a substitute for Isaac ROBERTSON and he served under Capt. George SMITH in Lincoln Co NC. In 1781, when he was 16 or 17 years old, he served another term for ROBERTSON as an Indian Spy in the Mounted Cavalry under Capt. Joseph McDONNELL. The next tour he volunteered and served under Samuel KILLIAM as a spy. He stated that he was raised an orphan without education. He cited William TRAVELSTEAD, William MAYHUE, Mical CLINE, John CLINE, Jonathan BANKS and John TRAVELSTREET as neighborhood witnesses. Edmund WAGONER, clergyman, and Joseph ANTHONY testified to his age and character for veracity. On 20 March 1840 Mrs Rachel HARRISON, aged 75, deposed that she was the widow of Richard HARRISON and that they were married 14 Feb 1786; he died 6 May 1838. On 25 Mar 1840 William TRAVELSTEAD testified that he was well acquainted with Richard and Rachel in Lincoln Co NC; they were married sometime in 1786, he thinks in Feb. He has known them ever since; that he left for KY about 10-12 yrs before the HARRISON's moved and that they were neighbors in KY before the applicant died. Thomas COLLBERT, W T ANTHONY, Thomas KENNEDY, Allen D BERRY, Michael CLINE and Wm ALSHUE testified on the same date and they had long acquaintenance with Richard and Rachel. On 18 Jan 1844 Rachel HARRISON, age 80, deposed before Andrew HARRISON, JP that she was married to Richard as stated above but no record of the marriage exists. She submitted an old Psalm Book in which was recorded the birth of their children and that she thinks it originally had record of their marriage. On 18 Jan 1844 Michael CLINE deposed that he was about 14 years when his father, Martin CLINE, moved from PA to NC and settled in the immediate neighborhood of Richard and Rachel; they were living together as man and wife and had two or three children. Franklin Co TN on 19 Sept 1832 Thomas HARRISON deposed that Richard had served in the Rev. War. Family Record submitted "from a very old leaf from David's Psalms": Rachel DORSEY? was born Aug 29, 1764 (this name may be Dansey, Lansey, Donsey or Lonsey - difficult to read). (Note by Sandi: I have not seen the original) Andrew HARRISON was born Nov. 25, 1786. William HARRISON was born June 12, 1788. John HARRISON was born Sept 27, 1791. Benjamin HARRISON was born March 9, 1794 Patience HARRISON was born Aug 6, 1796. Thomas HARRISON was born Oct 29, 1798. Mary HARRISON was born Dec 14, 1800. Richard HARRISON was born April 10, 1803. Elizabeth HARRISON was born Oct 9, 1805. End of file. Next week - Michael HATLER, Wilson MOORE and James McELROY, all Allen Co. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

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"For and in consideration of the sum of Twelve hundred dollars We the under signed have this day baragained and sold to John G PAGE of Allen county Kentucky a certian negro woman named Emily aged about 22 yrs and her infant child named Johnson aged 11 months which said woman and child are hereby was and is still sound in body & mind and slaves for life and hereby bind ourselves to warrant and defend the title to said negros against the claim or claims of all persons whom so ever witness our hands this 16th day of March 1857. /s/ J M DOTY, Ann M DOTY. " Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

In the news 29 Aug 1957: Deaths: Darrell Wayne COOTS, Jr. s/o M/M Darrell Wayne COOTS, died at the home of his grandparents, M/M Sam C. SCOTT of Aug 22nd. Age six months, 12 days. Also survived by M/M Cyril F COOTS of Foty, KY. Services by Elder Ervin A SCOTT at th Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints Chapel, burial Old Mt Hermon Cemetery, Yokley Funeral Home in charge. Grover C CARTER, s/o the late M/M C W CARTER, born 25 Apr 1892 near Hermitage Springs TN where he spent the greater part of his life. Died Aug 2, 1957 in a Nashville Hospital. Was married to the late Edna WILSON who died in 1943. They had 5 daughters: Mrs Rebo NEWMAN of Hendersonville TN, Mrs Ruth CLEMENT and Mrs Bertha Lea COPASS of Red Boiling Springs, TN, Mrs. Jewell PRICE of Taylorivlle IL and Miss Ann CARTER of Nashville. Had 2 sons: Lewis of Cliffisde NJ and Frank of Nashville. 18 grandchildren, one great-grandchild. Also survived by sister, Mrs. B R HARLIN of Gamaliel & his late wife, Mrs Bettie BEAN Carter of Donelson TN. Burial Spring Hilll Cemetery near Nashville; faithful member of the Church of Christ for several years; well known in Clay Co TN and Monroe Co. Sanford E THOMPSON, age 60, mechanic at Sinclair Refining Co's garage, Louisville, died 9:15 am 26 Aug 1957 at KY Baptist Hospital. Suffered a stroke at his home Sunday, 107 Blackburn. Was a native of T'ville, had lived in Louisville since 1918. Overseas veteran of WWI, member Crescent Hill Methodist Church and VFW. Survivors: Wife, Mrs Anne STOLL THOMPSON; daughter, Mrs Robert M BURNETT; five brothers, Tazell of Dodge City KS, Charles of Decatur IL, Edwin of Jacksonville FL, Wiley of Celina TN and Sam. Three sisters; Mrs Willie MARSHALL of T'ville, Mrs Ansil PAGE of Decatur and Mrs Bertha PATTERSON of Ford City KS; one grandson. Services in Louisville 28 Aug. Marvin C JONES, 77, died at Monroe Co War Memorial Hospital Sat night, 24 Aug 1957. Had been in declining health for several months. Owner & operator of Jones Motor Court, having established it in 1952. Operated a tourist home & real estate business in Ocala FL before moving to T'ville; also operated a restaurant in Burkesville for about 10 yrs before going to FL. Was born near Martinsburg KY, s/o late John G & Fannie NORRIS JONES. Survivors: Widow, Mrs Eva Lee JONES; daughter, Mrs Norris CASTLE of Los Angeles; two sons, Julien Jr of Tyler TX and Marvin C Jr of Los Angeles; two step-sons, Oakley GARMON of T'ville and Johnnie GARMON of Gamaliel; three sisters, Mrs Sallie KEEN of Riverside CA, Mrs Pearl GIST of Elkton KY and Mrs Zelma ANDERSON of Gallatin TN. One brother, Carmen. Services at T'ville Methodist Church by Bro Ross O SPEAR & Jack VIBBERT; burial Marrowbone Cemetery under direction of John e YOKLEY Funeral Home. Hospital News - Births: M/M Paul HALE of Rt 1, T'ville, a girl named Paula Denise, 22 Aug. M/M Douglas CARTER, Rt 2, T'ville, a boy named Anthony Craig 23 Aug. M/M Dentis PAGE Rt 2 Summer Shade KY, a boy named Harold Douglas, 23 Aug. M/M Guy RODDY, T'ville, a boy named Roger Guydale, 25 Aug. M/M Phillip STRONG, Rt 1, Moss TN, a girl named Susan Beth, 26 Aug M/M McKinley CROWE, Rt 1, T'ville, a boy, Danny Joe, 28 Aug. Patients admitted: Chloe RAY, Ray CARTER, Estline CROWE, Thomas DAVIS, Leak EMBERTON, Leatha EMBERTON, Ned FORD, Ina RAY, Ester RITTER, Walter SMITH, Anna STRONG, Barbara WITCHER, Corrine RICH, Irene CHITWOOD. Patients discharged: Euginia Kay TURNER, Thelma TURNER, George Eagle WATKINS, Jewell GENTRY, Bonnie BRASWELL, Dollie GOOLSBY, Golman VINSON, Cass Richard LEE, David Paul GRAY, Shelby Jean GERALDS, Flossie PENNINGTON, Davis W MABRY, Geneva BROWN, Beulah BILINGSLEY, Bertie GUMM, Ronnie MAXMILTON, Lois CHITWOOD, Fannie Roxie MARTIN, Clovis VINSON, Shirley Ann WISDOM, Debbie HOPKINS, Wayne HOWARD, Lucille PAGE, Cecil HOOD, Charles STRODE, Willaden CARTER, Ina HALE, Harold ENGLAND, Mack BRANDON, Marie RODDY, Inell KERR, Elmer TOOLEY. Birthday: S T HAGAN celebrated his 81st birthday at his home Sunday with a family dinner prepared by his wife and Bertha GRAVES. Others present included Mrs. Anna Lee THORNBERRY of North Miami Beach FL, M/M Louis RAYBURN and daughter Sarah Ann of Glasgow KY, M/M Ralph HAGAN and daughter Rebekah, M/M Gene R HAGAN and son Stephen, M/M C S HAGAN and chldren Patricia and Johnny. One one granddaughter Mrs Hettie Lou FINN and a grandson Sam H HAGAN were unable to attend. News: Mrs Joe L TRAVIS, former Mary Lou COPELAND of Stone KY, completed the prescried nurses training program at the Good Samaritan Hospital in Lexington; did three months of physhciatric affiliation at St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Washington DC where she did affiliation with Hazelwood TB Hospital in Louisville. She attended the University of KY where she did college work required by the Good Samaritan Training program. She is currently working at the Monroe County War Memorial Hospital in T'ville. [photo] Miss Monroe Co Fair; Lt Gov of KY to present the crown Friday night. Entries from many communities. Revival at Berea Chapel Methodist Church near Harlan's Cross Roads, Bro Lemuel DAVIS to preach. The Dixie Sunshine quartet of Nashville will be at Beautiful Home Baptist Church Sat night. Revival at Goodson Chapel methodist of near Summer Shade; Rev C G BLANKENSHIP is the pator and Rev. V K LaFON, evangelist. The annual gathering of the DOWNINGS will be held Sunday, 1 Sept at Beech Band Park in Bowling Green KY. Coach Clifton CARTER'S Bears Football team to open season against Monterey TN. Photo shows: Bobby WELCH (tackle), David GERALDS (co-captain, center or guard), Charles MILLER (co-captain, fullback), Sam CLARK (halfback), James CHAPMAN (halfback), Lary TOOLEY (end), Elmer WALLER Jr (tackle), Joe PETETT (quarteback and fullback), Joe RUSSELL (guard), Maxie HEADRICK (tackle or center), Roy PETETT (guard), Jesse KENDALL (halfback), Ted BUTLER (tackle), Orville PEDIGO (halfback), James GRAVES (tackle), Richard HARLAN (halfback), Wayne BUTLER (guard or center), Parker CREWS (quarterback), Veachel HARLAN (end), Coach Clifton CARTER, Gary PROFFITT and Joe GENTRY - managers and Cecil PETETT, assistant coach. Next week - 14 Mar 1957. 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