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    1. [SCKY] Monroe County--William Turner
    2. Charles R. Arterburn
    3. CORRECTION: Sorry, I overlooked the fact that I had a birthdate (this from Dayton Birdwell) for WILLIAM'S daughter, LUCINDA C. TURNER (m. ROBERT SMITH): April 3, 1816. This fits perfectly with the 1820 Buckingham and 1830 Monroe Censuses evidence, placing WILLIAM & FRANCES in Buckingham County, VA before coming to KY. The 1850 and 1860 Monroe transcriptions I've seen are both off for Lucinda's age--first understated then overstated, respectively. MARY A. TURNER (m. ____ ENGLAND) birthdate remains approximate, 1817-1819, based roughly on her age range from 1830 Monroe and the age (12) of her apparently oldest surviving child. There still remains an unaccounted for female (0-4) in their household in 1830 Monroe. Could have been their child that did not survive, the infant son (Toliver Turner) of JOHN A., or possibly someone else. -------------- More About WILLIAM & FRANCES' Burial Site: Another possibility could be BETHLEHEM CEMETERY, although it wasn't donated as a burying ground to the church until 1870. There are a few earlier burials there, but may have only been a family cemetery before. There is no reason I know of to doubt that WILLIAM & FRANCES were still active members of Bethlehem Church, during 1860-64, but family cemeteries and home burials predominated at the time, and seems most likely for them, especially if TURNER GRAVEYARD was on TURNER or ENGLAND land back then. [One of WYATT'S descendants, I know, currently lives on a farm adjacent.] Perhaps other local descendants on this list may know the history of NEW SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH--which, I believe, wasn't founded until after 1900--and the history of TURNER GRAVEYARD. I don't know the earliest surnames and dates buried there. MARY A. TURNER ENGLAND and WILLIAM T. TURNER both pre-deceased their father. But I don't know whether either might have legible markers in this cemetery--I don't have a cemetery book readily at hand. Can anyone help here? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/23/2006 01:03:52
    1. [SCKY] Query - John Akin (Fitz) Geralds, died 1909 Cave City
    2. Dan & Alice Lee
    3. We had a lovely young couple at our church this morning looking for John Akin (Fitz) Geralds. They had his obituary from 1909, saying that his funeral was at our church - Cave City Methodist, but we couldn't find any mention of him in the oldest roll book, with members from 1891 on. They are seeking his parents. Does anyone know anything about this family? Alice

    10/22/2006 11:27:37
    1. [SCKY] Monroe County--William Turner
    2. Charles R. Arterburn
    3. SOME ADDITIONAL TURNER FAMILY NOTES: About WILLIAM TURNER's will and death: SAMUEL RAY, who apparently drafted and also later attested to the recording of WILLIAM'S will in 1864, was one of BETHLEHEM METHODIST CHURCH'S three original trustees (1840), along with WILLIAM TURNER and ELZIA ARTERBURN. So, RAY and TURNER were probably old friends. SAMUEL RAY appears in Lynwood Montell's "Monroe County History" in the list of county judges, although in TURNER'S will he was apparently acting as a county court commissioner. WILLIAM TURNER'S death may have occurred sometime between 1860-1864, if the allusion to a fire was in fact the courthouse fire (1863), and this was a re-recording of the will. ------------------------ About the home/burial sites of WILLIAM and FRANCES TURNER: As far as I know, their gravesites are not legibly marked or known--they do not appear in Peden/Gorin's Monroe County cemetery book. Perhaps some other local TURNER descendants might have some clues or family tradition about this. If so, I hope they will share. A careful deed search might turn-up their homeplace, since the estate appears to have been settled after 1864. My guess is that their homeplace was in the vicinity of the communities of JEFFREY and MUD LICK, probably near Bethlehem Church, and might possibly have included or was near the property now occupied by NEW SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH. When I was a youth, the old cemetery behind this church was referred to as TURNER GRAVEYARD, although it has long since become a large public cemetery. The cemetery definitely predates the church. Some early TURNER descendants are buried there, including sons JOHN A. and WYATT N., and many later descendants lived/still live in this area. ------------------- Possible ENGLAND family VA connection: JOHN A. and WILLIANN ENGLAND TURNER were married very quickly, apparently within a year or so, of the TURNERS arriving in Monroe County (1828-29). Could be that it was just love at first sight :>), but could also be there was an earlier VA connection between these families. WILLIANN'S parents, WILLIAM and JANE ANGUS ENGLAND, were in Barren County (before Monroe was formed) as early as 1806, according to the tax lists--also in 1810 Barren Census. [The ENGLAND homestead/cemetery was apparently nearer to Gamaliel. As far as I know, her parents do not have legibly marked gravesites.] So, the ENGLANDS came to KY long before WILLIAM and FRANCES TURNER, but the TURNERS (and HOODS) settled near to the ENGLANDS in Monroe County. This could be coincidence, but maybe not. WILLIANN'S grandfather, WILLIAM ANDERSON ENGLAND, appears in VA land grants with 174 acres, in 1788--adjacent to HENRY TURNER, in Amherst County. Son WILLIAM ENGLAND bought this farm from his sibling heirs, in 1801. By 1806, he was in KY. The ENGLANDS also have early recorded marriages in Amherst County. This ENGLAND family has an excellent published genealogy: "Genealogies of Some England Families in America / compiled by C. Walter England. Silver Spring, MD: C.W. England, 1980." I have no other evidence that HENRY TURNER was related to the BUCKINGHAM TURNERS, but Amherst County is close by, and it's an intriguing possibility. -------------------- Possible WYATT family VA connection: WYATT N. TURNER, second son, appears to represent the namesake of his grandfather, NICHOLAS. Possibly, his first name might indicate a WYATT family namesake. CONQUEST WYATT, a descendant of EDWARD and JANE CONQUEST WYATT--descendants of Rev. HAUTE WYATT, Vicar of Jamestown Colony, VA--moved to early Barren County from VA, first appearing in tax lists in 1799. He settled in southeast Monroe County, near Salt Lick Bend of Cumberland River--about 30-40 miles from the JEFFREY-MUD LICK communities. CONQUEST appears in 1830 Monroe, but is absent by 1840. LARKIN TURNER later also settled in this area, first appearing in 1840 Monroe County. The WILLIAM/JOSEPH TURNER and LARKIN TURNER families have traditionally been considered two separate sets of TURNERS in Monroe County, and there may have been other separate progenitor TURNERS unknown to me. But, the WYATT connection might possibly tie these two sets of TURNERS together, back in VA at least. And there may be other clues tying these two TURNER families together that others may know about. HENRY WYATT'S Revolutionary War pension application from Pendleton County, KY, includes an affidavit from his nephew, Emanuel Wyatt, in Fayette County, who stated that Emanuel and his brother, TURNER WYATT, was born in 1787, in VA--another clue that a TURNER family and the WYATTS were connected. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/22/2006 05:08:21
    1. [SCKY] Turners and Englands in Monroe Co
    2. Colleen Lill
    3. Hi, I have a Turner Goodall England in my database. He was born May 1844, son of Leroy England and Mary Gum. He married Dinah Margaret Carter 1865 in Monroe Co. She was the daughter of Thomas Carter and Mary Wheeler (Wheelers in Monroe Co are my line). Several times I believe I've seen the name Goodall mentioned in Monroe Co (although specifics escape me at the moment!). I've long wondered if Turner Goodall England is related somehow to both the Turners and the Goodalls. Or was his name given to him just because his parents like the name? thanks, Colleen Lill

    10/21/2006 05:55:25
    1. Re: [SCKY] Monroe County--William Turner
    2. Charles R. Arterburn
    3. A correction--about JOHN A. TURNER'S whereabouts in the 1830 Monroe County Census: I noted that he was married in 1830. But clearly his son, WILLIAM T. TURNER, was born in 1830--according to his tombstone and death certificate. So, JOHN and WILLIANN ENGLAND TURNER and their new son must have been somewhere else in 1830--as they were missing from the household of his parents, WILLIAM and FRANCES TURNER. So, evidently JOHN A. was married earlier than 1830. Anyone have a clue about JOHN A.'s whereabouts in 1830? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/21/2006 10:53:52
    1. [SCKY] Monroe County--William Turner
    2. Charles R. Arterburn
    3. 1820 BUCKINGHAM COUNTY VA CENSUS: "William Turner, So N": Males: 2 (0-10) 2 (under 16) 1 (under 45) Females: 2 (0-10) 1 (under 45) "Joseph Turner": Males: 1 (0-10) 1 (under 45) Females: 1 (0-10) 1 (16-26) ----------------- 1830 MONROE COUNTY KY CENSUS: "William Turner": Males: 3 (5-9) 1 (15-19) 1 (20-29) 1 (40-49) Females: 1 (0-4) 2 (10-14) 1 (40-49) "Joseph Turner": Males: 1 (0-4) 2 (5-9) 1 (10-14) 1 (30-39) Females: 1 (0-4) 1 (10-14) 1 (30-39) ------------------- JOSEPH TURNER, b. 1790 [1850: age 60] LYDIA TURNER, b. [1850: age 60] WILLIAM TURNER, b. 1788 [1850: age 62] FRANCES TURNER, b. 1789 [1850: age 61] JOHN A. TURNER, b. Jun 12 1808 [1820: age 12; 1850: age 42] WYATT N. TURNER, b. Jan 10 1810 [1820: age 10; 1850: age 40] JESSE JEFFERSON TURNER, b. 1812-13 [1820: age 8; 1850: age 38] MARY A. TURNER (____ ENGLAND), b. 1815-18 [1820: age 0-10; deceased before 1850; children--oldest, age 12--living with grandparents, 1850] JAMES M.O. TURNER, b. 1819-20 [1820: age 0-10; 1850, age 31] ROBERT J. TURNER, b. 1822-23 [1850: age 29] WILLIAM T. TURNER, b. 1824-25 [1850: age 26; deceased by 1864] LUCINDA C. TURNER (ROBERT SMITH), b. 1825-26 [1850: AGE 25; 1860, age 48?] There was a third female (10-14 or 0-4), unaccounted for in WILLIAM'S Will or elsewhere, if 1830 Monroe County Census figures are correct--unless this female was not a member of the family. Also, John A. Turner, who was married in 1830, is unaccounted for in WILLIAM'S household in the 1830 Monroe Census, and may have been living in another household. --------------- I hope that other family tree connections that have been made for this WILLIAM TURNER to Franklin, Patrick, Mathews or another VA county will be compared with this evidence. There was no WILLIAM in 1820 Mathews County, and the profile for WILLIAM does not match either 1820 Franklin or Patrick County. WILLIAM and JOSEPH TURNER match from 1820 BUCKINGHAM to 1830 MONROE--the only ones in 1820 VA that do match. This, taken together with the families of HOODS who made the trip from Buckingham to Monroe, seem to clearly connect this WILLIAM TURNER to NICHOLAS TURNER of old BUCKINGHAM COUNTY, and I'm convinced we have to look for his and JOSEPH'S roots there. The goal is simply to find the right connection for WILLIAM and JOSEPH, not to trump or devalue anyone else's work. I hope other TURNER researchers will eventually agree. Charles R. Arterburn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/21/2006 07:47:35
    1. [SCKY] ELIZA M WILLIS McMURRY - PART 2
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Continuation of previous article: "One day ministering to some hero from the north, the next kneeling at the couch and aiding some noble lad from the land of the magnolia, Who of you, as you think of her there, can fail to couple her name with that of Grace Darling? The virtues that grace gently womanhood shone respondent throughout her life. Modest, gentle, tender and loving she was ever ready to minister to the extend of her ability with heart, hands and means to the poor and distressed, always ready to drop words of truth and cheer into every heart, always found counselling patience and peace to the end of her life. She was a member of a large famly, all of whom preceded her to the Golden shores; the death of her youngest sister, to whom she was deeply attached, occurring just one month before her own death, and of which in life she never knew. "During her long illness of 104 days with fever and other complications, she was the recipient of many tokens of love, and she often wondered why she should be thus so tenderly remembered in a land of comparative strangers, but into her heart came the comfort that the Father was returning to her "the bread she had cast upon the waters" of the long ago. Gratitude and patience, the queenliest of all virtues, were in her character beautifully exemplified. Every favor elicited grateful acknowledgement, and even when unable to speak her peaceful, soul-lit face and the faint clasp of her hand sacredly told of her peace, her gratitude and her blessing. During her more than one hundred days of suffering, ending in death, not one note or reproachful impatience, was extracted from her suffering soul; quietly, calmly and without a murmur she waited the end, her faith clinging all the closer to the great White Throne. "In her earlier womanhood her heart sought the "pearl of great price," and since coming to Texas she united with the Commerce street Christian church of this city in December, 1885, of which she remained a faithful member, and as the cold waves of death were beating about her, her soul gave christian evidence of her supreme trust in her blessed Master, and her last sacred words to her loved ones will be source that will comfort them forever and aye. And thus, after a long life of noble purposes rcrystalized into noble deeds, "the angels have borne her spirit away upon their snowy winds," within the pearly gates of the bright Beyond, and fittingly chosen at her funeral services were the words of the text, Revelations xiv, 13: "Blessed be the dead who died in the Lord from henceforth; yea, saith the spirit: tht they may rest from their labors and their works do follow them." "Touchingly sweet has been the esteem in which the life of this noble woman has been held as has been tenderly evidenced by the tears of friends and the wealth of beautiful floral offerings, covering her casket and filling the rooms of mourning: silently they have told of Kentucky friendships begun fifty years ago, as well as the esteem of later years born in the hearts of Texas womanhood. All that is mortal of her has been tenderly laid to rest in Trinity cemetery: down into the grave awith her have gone sweet flowers, typical of her life; there rest upon her bosom till the Judgment day while rosebuds offered by childhood's hands, and her grave has been covered by sweet tokens placed and strewn in love by gentle hands and thus we leave her to peaceful sleep, and God help us to emulate her christian example left as priceless heritage to all who loved her; and now the following beautiful lines offered by a friend are a fitting close to this tribute to the memory of her life: "Folded Hands. Pale, withered hands, that nearly four-score years. Have wrought for others, soothed the burst of tears. Rocked children's cradles, eased the fever's smart, Dropped the balm of love in many an aching heart: Now stirless, folded, like wan rose leaves pressed, Above the snow and silence of her breast, In mute appeal they tell of labor done, And well-earned rest that came near the rise of sun. From her worn brown the lines of care have swept, as if an angel's kiss, the while she slept. Has smoothed the cobweb wrinkles quite away, And given back the peace of childhood's day. And on her lips the faint smiles almost said, "None know life's secret but the happy dead.. So Gazing where she lies we know that pain And parting cannot cleave her soul again. And we are sure that they who saw her last, In that dim vista which we call the past, When never knew her old and at the River's side, Remembering best the maiden and the bride, Have sprung to greet her with the olden speech, The dear sweet names no later more can teach. And, 'Welcome home they've cried and grasped her hands: So dwells the mother in the Paradise of lands." End Of course, many of you will recognize her friends and family's name from Barren Co and area. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    10/20/2006 07:51:00
    1. [SCKY] ELIZA M. WILLIS McMURRY
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. This is long so I might do in 2-3 posts but thought many of you might be interested in this. Dallas (TX) Morning News, Nov 23,1890, Section 1, page 5. "IN MEMORIAM. From the beautiful memorial tribute and interesting biographal sketch by M. M. DAVIS of the lat Mrs. E. M. McMURRY, whose recent death occurred in this city, we quote the following: "Eliza M. McMURRY was born in Kentucky May 12, 1818, and died in Dallas, Tex., Nov 4,1890, at the residence of her children, Mr. and Mrs. J. R. JOHNSON, on McKinney avenue. She was the daughter of the mathematician,, Joseph WILLIS, and Sallie TWYMAN GARNETT, the latter a daughter of the distinguished jurist, Judge John GARNETT, of Virginia, a lineal descendant of Sir William GARNETT, baronet of England. he deceased was a close relative of the families of the eminent theologian, James M. PENDLETON of Philadelphia, and President Leslie WAGGONER of the state university. She was also a niece of Gen. Samuel SPENCER and of William T. WILLIS, lawyer, orator and statesman, who, with McKEE and Harry CLAY, poured out his life's blood at Buena Vista in defense of Texas, and over whose ashes grateful Kentucky has raised her monumental marble at her capital. "Eliza M. WILLIS, possessed of delicate beauty and aided graces of mind and heart, was marired Nov. 10, 1836, to William M. McMURRY of North Carolina, a man of commanding personal and brilliant power. Around their heathstone of culture and happiness gathered such names as ROGERS, GORIN, GARNETT, BRYAN, BELL, McFERRAN, LEWIS, NUCKOLS, Tom MARSHALL and others well known to Kentucky chivalry and clothed with her laurels of honor. In 1859 they removed to Memphis thence to Clarksville, Tenn., where in 1863 the husband died, and the wife, Naomi-like, returned to her old Kentucky home. In October, 1863(?), she came to Dallas to bless and brighten the home of her only daughter. Her oldest child, a son, was for a number of years connected with the Custom-House at New Orleans, but at his dseath, May, 1870, was Judge of Grant parish, Louisiana. Mrs.J. R. JOHNSON, her only remaining child and a heart's blessing to her mother, has had the sad but sacred pleasure of tirelessly watching at her bedside during her long illness and of comforting her with a daughter's deathless devotion, joined by her husband whose love was no less deep than her own, as their mother passed into the Jordan of death, attended by friends, tender and true, when for her "the Day-star of Eternity shimmered in life's gloom." "During the great civil war one of those strange things, sometimes seen in human struggle, was witnessed in her house; father and son, true to noble manhood's convictions rather than the emotions of their very souls, espousing the colors and the cause of different sides; the father chose the blue under Gen. GRANT while the son wore the gray and followed PILLOW and was a member of his staff of aides, while the brother - the late Col. WILLIS of El Paso - cast his lot with Sterling PRICE and at Vicksburg, when the battle's fury raged his commanding form was seen, true to the heroism of his name, at a cannon, in danger, ouring a sheen of fire and volleys of death into the columns of the advancing foe. The heart of this noble woman was with the cause of the Southland, yet the clinging love of this wife, mother and sister lingered lovingly amidst the hosts of both armies, and you will not question why she was so often seen with friends upon the battlefields of death almost before the smoke had cleared away or the echo of the mad artiliery had hushed its roar, leading her baby girl with one hand, and offering succor with the other, nor way, like a ministering angel, she was so often found in the hospitals of either side. Yes, found "Within the wards of the white-washed halls Where the dead and the dying lay, Where wounded by bayonets, shells or balls, Somebody's idol was borned each day." to be continued next post. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    10/20/2006 07:31:28
    1. [SCKY] Monroe County--William Turner Will
    2. Charles R. Arterburn
    3. Last Will & Testament of WILLIAM TURNER (1788-1864), from Will Book "C" of Monroe County. Some of the handwriting is very difficult to read (punctuation supplied): "I, William Turner of Monroe County Kentucky, being weak in body but of sound mind and disposing memory, do make this my last will and testament, hereby revoking all previous wills made by me. 1st Pt. It is my will that after my death my beloved wife, Frances Turner, shall of my effects pay all my just debts and funeral expenses, and have and control and use all my property of every description during her natural life, and at her death it is my will that all my property be equally divided amongst my children and heirs, to wit: John A. Turner, Wyatt Turner heirs, Jefferson Turner, Lucinda Smith, James M.O. Turner, Robert J. Turner, and the heirs of William Turner, and the heirs of Mary A. England, except my land, which at my wife['s] death, I will to Mary A. England heirs and William Turner heirs, to be equally divided between them, that is equally between each set of said heirs, having heretofore given the other children all the land I design[ed] for them. And lastly, I appoint my son, Robert J. Turner, to execute this my last will and testament, in witness whereof I here set my name. William x Turner" ["x" is surrounded by notation, "his mark."] "This day personally appeared before me, R. J. Maxey, County Court Clerk, Monroe County, Kentucky, Marmaduk[e] N. Jeffreys, of lawful age and resident of Monroe County, Kentucky, and made oath in due form of law that the above is copy in substance of a will signed by William Turner, in his lifetime and acknowledged in his presence, signed and sworn to.... ... this 13th day of Sept. 1864" "This day personally appeared before me, R.J. Maxey, County Court Commissioner Samuel Ray, and of lawful age and a resident of the County of Monroe and State of Kentucky, and made oath in due form of law that the [illegible] as foregoing contains the substance of a will which he drafted for William Turner and in his lifetime, which [illegible] he agreed by making his mark and acknowledged it to be his will, that the same such person in open court and [illegible] the said will and record of the same [illegible] has been destroyed by fire. Samuel Ray ...this 14th day of September, 1864" ----------------------------- This difficult to decipher reference to a fire might refer to the court house fire of 1863. This seems to open up the possibility that WILLIAM TURNER might have died before the court house fire, and his Will was here being re-recorded. Anyone have any comments or ideas about this? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/20/2006 05:46:21
    1. [SCKY] Monroe County--Turner--Hood
    2. Charles R. Arterburn
    3. TURNER lines are a difficult lot to sort out, since there seem to be so many different branches, and so many common names repeated. The VA origin of this TURNER family of Monroe County deserves a second look: WILLIAM TURNER (b. about 1788 VA--w.p. 1864 KY) m. FRANCES _____ (b. about 1789 VA--d. after 1864 KY) 1. Appears in 1820 Buckingham County VA Census under "William, So N"--family profile matches 1830 Monroe County, best match for "William Turner" in 1820 VA. 2. Appears in 1829 Monroe County KY Tax List. 3. Appears in 1830 Monroe County KY Census. 4. Appears in deed of gift as one of three original trustees of Bethlehem Methodist Church, Monroe County, 1840. Other family members named as charter members were: Jefferson Turner, Jane England. 5. Appears in 1840, 1850, 1860 Monroe County Censuses. (Joseph Turner, Charles, Richard, and Thomas Hood also appear in 1820 Buckingham and all subsequently reappear, along with George Hood, in 1830 Monroe County. These Hood and Turner families are known to have intermarried.) Since Buckingham is a burned county (1869), early public records have had to be reconstructed from other sources. The following selections have been published (full citations are available upon request): "1800 BUCKINGHAM Tax List: TURNER William John John James Nicholas Andrew, Jr. Andrew (estate)" ---------------- Selected from Land Tax Summaries & Implied Deeds (to 1814): "Turner, JOHN. 1800 to 1814. BOUGHT: 1800, 130 acres adjacent Blakeys Creek (9N) from Haynes. 1803, 100 acres adjacent Blakeys Creek (9N) from C. May, and 112 and 1/2 acres adjacent Blakeys Creek (9N) from James and Rane Staton. 1813/1814 LOCATION: residence on Blakeys Creek (9N) with land adjacent. Listed as "Captain" in 1810 and 1811. Turner, NICHOLAS. 1804 to 1814. BOUGHT: 1804, 50 acres from Rogers. 1806, 48 acres on Wreck Island Creek from John Horsley. 1809, 48 acres adjacent Wreck Island Creek from Joseph Horsley. 1813, 21 acres adjacent Wreck Island Creek (25W) from James Christian, in 1814, residence of his son, William (Turner). Turner, WILLIAM. 1786 to 1814. 1813/1814. LOCATION: residence near Gowan Hill (27W); in 1814, William Turner, son of Nicholas, residence adjacent Wreck Island Creek (25W)." -------------- Selected from Land Tax Summaries & Implied Deeds (to 1830): "Turner, JOHN Captain. 1815 to 1822. Estate, 1823 to 1840. BOUGHT: 1816, 20 acres on Blakeys Creek (9N) from estate of John Beazley. 1818, 75 acres from Thomas Winfrey. SOLD: 1821, 75 acres to Sarah S. Couch. 1823, 150 acres to Fleming Turner, Jr. 1835, 106 acres to John Chambers, sold by Caroline Chambers (or Couch). [Captain John apparently died about 1822.] Turner, NANCY. 1820-1839. BOUGHT: 1820, 26 acres on Wreck Island Creek (30W), her interest in James Beckham estate. [May be NANCY, the daughter of NICHOLAS TURNER, who married WILLIAM PHELPS.] Turner, NICHOLAS. 1815 to 1828. SOLD: 1818, 22 acres on Wreck Island Creek (25W) to James P. Rogers. [Nicholas appears to have died about 1828. His son, William, must have left for Kentucky soon after. "Est. of Nicholas Turner" appears in the 1830 census, which included a female 50-60 yrs old--presumably Nicholas' widow, along with 2 white males and 2 white females (20-30), and 3 female slaves.] Turner, WILLIAM. 1815 to 1827. Listed as Senior, 1826 and 1827. In 1816, owned 137 acres near Gowans Hill (27W); in 1817, adjacent Edward Gouldman (27W). SOLD: 1826, 135 acres on Boring Mill Branch (27W) to William Moore. Hood, HOBSON. 1815 to 1827. SOLD: 1826, 222 acres on Wreck Island Creek (30W) to Robert S. Gary. Hood, JOHN. 1815 to 1829. SOLD: 1829, THOMAS Hood and others sold 98 acres (24W) to Peter Doss. Hood, NATHANIEL. 1815 to 1832. Estate, 1833 to 1840. In 1828, listed as Nathaniel R. Hood. Location: In 1831 on Little Wreck Island Creek (29W)." ------------------ It seems highly likely that WILLIAM TURNER of Monroe County was the WILLIAM, son of NICHOLAS, who appears in 1820 Buckingham Census and tax and deed records there. NICHOLAS may have been the partial namesake for the second son of WILLIAM and FRANCES: WYATT N. TURNER. Perhaps "WYATT" and the name of their first son "JOHN A." may hold clues about other extended family members. ************************************************ Named in the Monroe County Will of WILLIAM TURNER, 1864 [bracketed items added]: FRANCES TURNER [spouse] JOHN A. TURNER WYATT [N.] TURNER HEIRS [JESSE] JEFFERSON TURNER LUCINDA [C.] SMITH JAMES M.O. TURNER ROBERT J. TURNER [also Executor] WILLIAM [T.] TURNER HEIRS MARY A. ENGLAND HEIRS ************************************************ One of NICHOLAS TURNER'S VA descendants states that NICHOLAS was married to JUDITH _____ (possibly PHELPS), and that they were members of Red Oak Baptist Church, in present-day Appomattox County, VA. JUDITH TURNER appears in 1850 Appomattox County Census, age 91. Burials at the church began more recently, so NICHOLAS and JUDITH are probably in a family cemetery somewhere, perhaps unmarked. He speculates that NICHOLAS may have been the son of ANDREW TURNER, who was in Buckingham County as early as 1787. The published tax and deed summaries, listed above, also show a WILLIAM TURNER in Buckingham County as early as 1786. This early WILLIAM probably wasn't the WILLIAM SR. listed above, since the latter was only 45+ yrs old and still with young children, in the 1820 Buckingham Census. So, NICHOLAS' father might actually have been an earlier WILLIAM TURNER. It may be too soon to look for a naming pattern, though, since WILLIAM, son of NICHOLAS, didn't follow the expected pattern. -------------- My cousin, Mike Arterburn of California, and I are descendants of this WILLIAM TURNER, and we will be working to establish more clearly WILLIAM and FRANCES TURNER'S VA roots. At some point, DNA analysis might be used to help distinguish or relate branches of VA TURNERS where very little or nothing can be found of an early paper trail. Any descendants of this TURNER family who wish may join in this effort, and all are welcome to participate! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/20/2006 05:33:05
    1. [SCKY] INFORMATION ON CREASY FAMILIES OF METCALFE CO
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Butch has given me permission to post this to the list. He's not a subber to SCKY but might be soon, so if you can help him out in anyway, would you write to him directly. Thanks a lot! Sandi >From: Cresiezoe@aol.com >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 23:15:20 EDT > Sandi, My name is William Cresie. I go by Butch. I was >wondering if you had any information on any Creasy/Cresie families that >lived in Metcalfe County, Ky. from mid 1800's to 1900. My >great-grandmother was Lucy Creasy (there are variants on the spelling of my >last name) who had a child, my grandfather, Ed Harrison Cresie. When Ed >was around 10 years old, she married a man by the name of Andrew (A. J.) >Jackson Bowles/Boles. When Lucy, died, Andrew gave Ed up to another >family, Robert and Cordelia Davis. We know nothing about Ed's parentage, >except that his real mother's name was Lucy. We don't know if Creasy was a >married name or if that was her maiden name and she had Ed out of wedlock. >I have found a Lucy E. Creasy that I located on Ancestry.com in the 1880 >census. Her father was John Creasy, a widower. She also had a brother >William D. Creasy. It was interesting because when Ed married my >grandmother, he named two of his sons John and William D. I know I'm >searching for a needle in a haystack, but I thought I'd take the chance to >see if you could help me. I found the site where you could look up births >on your county page, where I found your e-mail address, but every time I >clicked on to it, it said that page could not be found. Hope you can help. >Thank you, > cresiezoe@aol.com Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    10/19/2006 11:35:41
    1. [SCKY] HART CO DEATHS - PALMER THROUGH PEOPLES
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Information required varies from year to year. PALMER: Susan, 60, widow, born Pittsylvania Co VA, d/o of Larkin & ____, flux, 23 Oct 1852. Winfield, 36, s/o Luke & E, northside, flux, 6 Aug 1854 Winfield J, 2 yrs, 2 mos, s/o Luke & E, northside flux, 15 Aug 1856. So entered on these two, ??? PALMORE: George W, Mulatto, 5 mos, s/o Ed & Jane (Hart-Hart), 1 June 1875. James Martin, 2, s/o Robert & Mary Eliza, 14 Jan 1853. Martha B, 1 yr, 8 mos, d/o R S & Mary E, southsideside, scarletina, 28 Dec 1857. Slave Carter, 2 mos, 15 days, owned by R S Palmore, southside, 1 Nov 1857. Slave No First Name, 1 mo, male, owned by R S Palmore, southside, 2 Sept 1858. PARKER, George W, 35, married, s/o William & Arena (-TN), consumption, 6 Mar 1876. PARRISH, Elizabeth, 85, wdow, born Bedford Co VA, d/o John & Ruth THARP, (Bedford-Bedford), heart disease, 2 Aug 1877. PARRISH, Ephraim, 76 yrs, 4 mos, widower, born Goochland Co VA, resided and died in Barren Co, s/o John & Judith, southside, gravel, 14 June 1854. PATRICK, Caroline, Black, 78, widow, born VA, parents born VA, old age, July 1876. PATTERSON: Ben, 30 yrs, 4 mos, 15 days, born Green Co KY, s/o Samuel & Polly, died Meade Co KY of consumption, 28 July 1856. Elmira?, 42, born TN, d/o James & Nancy WILLIAMS (KY-TN), consumption, 4 Dec 1874. Slave Billy, 50, born Green Co KY, owned by Samuel Patterson, typhoid, 15 Feb 1855. Slave Israel, 25, owned by Samuel Patterson, southside, consumption, 22 Dec 1856. PAYTON: Elizabeth, 78, widow, born Henry Co VA, d/o John & Mary BURKS, pneumonia, 27 Dec 1853. Francis T, 8 mos, 20 days, s/o Alfred & Rachel, southside, 14 Jan 1858. G R, 58, male, married, lime burner, s/o Sils & Margaret (VA-KY), typhoid, 21 Apr 1892. John R, Black, 3 weeks, s/o Ed & Evilina (Hart-Hart), Oct 1877. Mary, 50, single, born Barren Co, d/o Daniel & Elizabeth, southside, flux, 5 Sept 1854. No First, Black, female, 1 mo, d/o John & Amanda (KY-KY), croup, 29 Sept 1874. Richard M, 3 mos, s/o G R K& Mary E, born Hardin Co KY, 8 Jan 1856. Silas, 67, married, born Barren Co, southside, cholera morbis, 18 Nov 1858. Slave Ann, 3 mos, 15 days, slave of Alexander Payton, southside, sudden death, overlaid by mother, 1 Mar 1854. Slave No First, 21 days, male, owned by Thomas Payton, 7 Mar 1855. PEARCE: Slave Charles, 50, born VA, died Louisville KY, owned by Edmund Pearce, ulcerated bowels, Apr 1852. ___, 72, male, son of Garry? D & Eliza (NY-NY), spinal, 26 Apr 1893. PEDIGO: Ida T, 2, d/o John H & Lou J (KY-KY), consumption, 6 Sept 1876. Jesse, 11 yrs, 7 mos 9 days, s/o Jesse & Jane, died Hardin Co KY, southside, accidently killed when thrown from horse. PENICK, Charles, 65, married, born Barren Co, s/o William & Nancy A, mother born Barren Co, 14 July 1875. PEOPLES, Hannah, 64, married, born SC, d/o John (no last name), northside, consumption, Sept 1854. To be continued next wek with PEPPER. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    10/19/2006 01:47:54
    1. [SCKY] William T. Turner--Monroe County
    2. Charles R. Arterburn
    3. >From the tombstone of William T. "Toll" Turner, son of John A. Turner, in Isenberg Cemetery, at Emberton, in Monroe County: W.T. Turner May 1, 1830 May 27, 1914 Co H 9th Reg Ky Inf In the 1850 Monroe County Census, "Toliver Turner," age 19, was listed in the household of his widowed grandmother, Jane England. William Toliver Turner was not yet married. He was also predictably absent from his parents' (John & WilliAnn) household. His grandfather shared his first name, and his uncle William T. shared both, so it doesn't seem surprising that Toll Turner or his family might have inclined toward the use of his middle name to tell them apart. His death certificate reads only "Toll Turner," and I believe subsequent censuses use only "William T." or "W.T." I sometimes see it listed in family trees as "William Tolbert Turner." Do any descendants of this Turner family happen to know how Tolbert came to stand for Toll Turner's middle name, instead of Toliver? thanks, Charles R. Arterburn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

    10/18/2006 11:42:05
    1. [SCKY] ALLEN CO PENSION APPLICATIONS - REVOLUTIONARY WAR - POE, SEARS, STOVALL
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. POE, Benjamin, NC, S31307. Covering jacket: Kentucky, 25,348. Allen Co. Pvt NC line for 3 months. Pvt of infantry 9 months. Pvt of Cavalry. Inscribed on KY Roll at $47.50 per year to begin 4 Mar 1831. Certificate of pension issued 28 Dec 1833. 9 Oct 1833, open court. Benjamin Poe, aged 94, deposed that he entered service Dec 1775 in NC and then moved to Randolph Co NC. Sept 1781 served again in the company of horsemen under Capt T MARSH/MASH. Dec 1781 entered service again in the company of mounted infantry under Capt Charles GOULDSTON. After serving this tour he returned to Randolph Co and found his dwelling house reduced to ashes; property destroyed, wife and children driven away by the Tories and cast upon the charity of the world for support. He again entered service Mar 1782 in the company of mounted infantry under Capt Joseph ROSSER. Total service of one year. Was born 14 Aug 1749 (Old Stile) in Cullpeper Co VA. When he enlisted service he lived in Chatham or Randolph Co NC. Since the war he has lived in Chatham and Wake Counties NC, Barren, Monroe and Allen Co KY. Was in no general battle but in many skirmishes. Cites John DYSON, Levi ROARK (clergymen), Robert F PULLIAM, Johnson J COCKERILLE, Robt H PARIS, Walter THOMAS, Isaac TRACY, Lovel STENSON as neighborhood witnesses. *** SEARS, Joseph. VA Continental, S 25,810. Covering jacket: "To Kentucky from Virginia." Private in Capt GWINN's Company 1st VA Regt Lt Dragoons. Inscribed on VA Roll at $2.77 per month and increased to $4.43 by law 24 Apr 1826. Increased from that to $8 per month from 24 Jan 1832. Original declaration missing. Allen Co 16 Oct 1826. Sears makes oath that he is the same person who served in the 1st VA Regt Light Dragoons in company of Capt James GUIN (written also GUN), his name placed on pension rolls of VA but he never received a formal certificate. Sworn before Anah DAWSON, JP. Placed on roll at $4.43 per month having as he states received a severe wound in the shoulder and the knee, two in the head and other lesser wounds amounting in all to eleven while in the line of duty. Abt 6 May 1780 at LENO (?) TERRY SC (so written) and in consequence of said injury is disabled in our opinion; he is entitled to $3.57 more than he already receives, being disabled to a degree amounting to total disability. 23 Jan 1832, Dr. Robert H PARIS and Dr. Thomas J MOORE. 16 Aug 1824, noted that at the end of his services he went to NC to live until 16 or 17 yrs ago when he moved to Allen Co KY and wishes his pension payable in KY. For the past 56 months he received $292.82 and was informed that he was entitled to receive $44.44 per month and that he was paid about 20 cents short of what he is entitled to. /s/ Joseph SEARS, sworn to before Thomas GATTON, JP, Allen Co. *** STOVALL, George, VA, S31391. Covering jacket: Kentucky 13554. Pvt VA line. 9 months. Inscribed on KY Rolls at $30 per year beginning 4 Mar 1831. Certificate of Pension issued 18 May 1833. On back in pencil: "Died January 8, 1841. Agency book." Allen Co 11 Feb 1833, open court. Stovall, aged 71, deposed that he entered service as private militia Apr 1778 in company of Capt Peter ROGERS in Halifax Co VA. Was in the Battle of Charleston. In 1779 or 1780 was drafted in the company of Capt KING near 96 SC. Was taken with small pox. Lived in Halifax Co when he entered service. Born in that county 15 Nov 1761. The family register in which his birth is recorded is in possession of Valentine DICKERSON of Barren Co. Continued to live in Halifax Co till about 15 yrs ago when he moved to KY. On same date John WEAVER swore that from 1777 to 1778 and until after the Revolution, he lived in Halifax Co where his service in the militia was undesr Capt ROGERS. On same date, Sarah McFARLAND swore she was well acquainted with Stovall, has known him from infancy. Well recollected his going into the arm and that he stayed a long time, remembers the report that he had small pox while in service. His family (to which she is related) was very uneasy; my father (who was his brother) went for him and he came back home with him much disfigured by the small pox. Sarah is 68 or 69 years old and we were children together. Jesse L HICKMAN (clergy), Willis MITCHELL, William P NEALS, Levi SPELLMAN and Maston WILLIAMS certified to his age and belief in his service. To be continued next week with Daniel PITCHFORD, John RICHEY/RICHIE. Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    10/18/2006 01:51:20
    1. [SCKY] MONROE CO - TIDBITS 30 APR 1959 - PART 2
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Mrs Lola SLAUGHTER, 58, services at Germany Church of Christ as Hestand Friday afternoon; died at Monroe Co War memorial Hospital Thurs, 23 Apr 1959. Bro Ross O SPEARS officiated, burial in the BAILEY Cemetery; Yokley Funeral Home in charge. Survived by husband, Esmond; three sons, Reval and Eugene both of Inda IN and Esmond Jr of Hestand; sister, Mrs Melia SPEAR of Hestand. Services for Garrett SMITH, 89 of Boles KY held Sunday afternoon at Moss TN. He died at the home of his son, Oren Smith at Boles, 25 Apr. Services by Bro Ross O SPEAR & Bro Glenn PAGE; burial Moss Cemetery; Yokley Funeral Home in chrge. He was the s/o the late James & Mary HAMMER Smith. His wife, Mrs Florida SAVAGE Smith died several yars ago. Retired farmer and blcksmith, for school teacher. Survived by 2 daughters: Mrs George HATCHER of Green Castle IN and Mrs Eugene PLUMLEE of Hestand; two sons, Illow of Smiths Grove KY and Oren of Boles. 8th graders graduate 14 May, no names shown; Randall GRIDER was the high school principl. All night singing at Red Lick Church in Adair Co near Breeding. Reed DECKARD was the singing school instructor. Oil Drilling begins on the W T DUBREE farm near Persimmon. Producing wells have beenfound in Allen, Cumberland and Metcalfe Co. Junior-Senior Banquet held at Gamaliel Tuesday night. Piano music by Mrs Howard DOSSEY; invocation by DeWayne FOX. A W BROGDON was toastmaster; Nancy LANDRUM sang. Mrs M J NEWMAN accompanied. Other speakers were Ruby ARTERBURN, Benny HOLDER, Edwin STEEN (principal). Special guests were M/M William S ABNEY (Superintendent) and M/M George ELLIOTT. Senior sponsors, Mrs Winford CROPPER & Mrs Jasper THOMPSON and Jr sponsers were Mrs Robert EATON and Mrs George DOWNING. American Legion dedicates new building. Post commander was Ray ELDRED. Two young ministers of the Latter Day Saints working in county - Elder Nehemiah GOSS from AZ and Elder Garner OLESON from UT. Baccalaureate Services at Gamaliel Sunday, 6 May. Processional march played by Mrs Howard Bryant DOSSEY; invoction by Bro Howard COOK (pastor Gamaliel Baptist Church). Edward STEEN principal; benediction by Bro COOK. At the graduation services: Rev. Charles TIDWELL (pastor Gamaliel Church of Christ); Miss Luree RUSSELL (saluatory address); Miss Jo Ann ROWLAND (valedictory address). Address by P L SANDERFUR (Physics Dept WKU). Graduates were: Ruby L ARTERBURN, Ruth E ARTERBURN, Charles AUSTIN, Daphanna R BRANDON, Phyllis Ann BRANDON, William H CARDER, Ralph CLARKSON, Joe R COPASS, Vivian Janetta COPASS, Anna Dare CORNWELL, Bobby F CORNWELL, Clovis Joe CORNWELL, Jackie Ned CORNWELL, Judy Ann CRABTREE, Barbara Ann CROPER, Katheryn DECKARD, Wanda Jean DECKARD, Kenneth DOWNING, Phyllis Dean EMBERTON, Jimmy GOODMAN, Benny HOLDER, Donald HOWARD, Billy Clay HUGHES, Fay HUNT, Leon ISENBERG, Betty Jean JOHNSON, Anna JONES, Judith Nell JONES, Nancy Ann LANDRUM, Bobby Lewis LEE, Martha LEE, Larry LYON, Vicki Faye MASTESRS, Janet McDONALD, Lewis Ray McDONALD, Shirley McPEAK, Janice PROFFITT, Jo Ann ROWLAND, Luree RUSSELL, Judy STINSON, Winford TAYLOR, Betty Jean Turner PARE and Dixie WHEELER. Teachers named for the 1959-60 school term: Tompkinsville HS: Randall GRIDER (principal), Robert MILLER and Royce GETTINGS (vocational Ag), Mrs Cecil PETETT & Mrs David WALDEN (home ec), Bratton PINCKLEY and Ellis RUSSELl (commercial), W L SWANN, Mrs Robert REECER and Harlie WHITE Jr (math), Mrs Bratton PINCKLEY, Mrs. Clarice BUSHONG, Mrs Jack ALEXANDER and Mrs Oscar MARTIN (English), Harold C SMITh and Mrs James HAYS (history), Reid V WILLIAMS (Social Science), Cecil PETETT (athletic director), Clifton CARTER (footballcoach), John C MARRS (basketball coch), Mrs Gene BURKS (librarian), Bobby GARMON, Kenneth BARTLEY, Miss Hela BOWMAN, Mrs Tommy DOWNING and Mrs Glen GRINESTAFF (junior high teachers). Tompkinsville Grade schools: Robert CONKIN (Principal), Miss Jesse D MILLER, Mrs Leon EUBANK and Mrs B C GRIDER (1st grade), Mrs Ray LYON, Mrs Ruth Ann CURTIS and Mrs Elsie PITCOCK (2nd grade), Mrs Stanton TAYLOR and Mrs Paul CROWE (3rd grade), Mrs George CARTER and Mrs Cecil HALE (45h), Mrs Victor HEADRICK and Mrs Verniece B BOWMAN (5th), Mrs Geraldine CARTER and Miss Alice PATTERSON (6th). Gamaliel High School: Principal: Edwin STEEN. Morris CARDER (vocational ag), Mrs Randall GRIDER (home ec), Mrs Harry R TURNER (Math), Mrs. Robert EATON (English), Mrs Jasper THOMPSON (science), Mrs Ann COX (commercial), Tommy DOWNING (coach), Mrs George DOWNING (librarian), Orby LYON, Mrs Effie RAY, Mrs WInford CROPPER and Clyde ENGLAND (jr high techers) and Leon EUBANK (guidance counsellor). Gamaliel Grade School: Mrs Leland HUFFER (1st), Mrs Glen JACKSON (2nd), Miss Ina DOWNING (3rd), Mrs Edwin STEEN (4th), Mrs L H LANDRUM (5th), Mrs Garnet PARE (6th), Mrs Morris Carder (extra lower grades), Mrs Mary D BROWN (extra upper grades), Mrs Clyde ENGLAND (art), Mrs M J NEWMAN (music). At the Black schools: Winfred PIPKIN and Mrs Maude L CRAWFORD; Charles E CRZAWFORD at Fountain Run. Fountain Run Elementary: Ardus GOAD (principal), Mrs Emma McDONALD (1st), Mrs Scott HOWARD (2nd), Mrs Geneva DAVIS (3rd), Mrs Mattie COOKSEY (4th), Mrs Druie BRANDON (5th), Mary Susan GOAD (6th), Mrs Nina MURPHY (7th), Miss Tressie YOKLEY (8th). Rural schools: Tinsley Hill: Mrs Ezel THOMPSON Mud Lick: Mrs Ferry JACKSON & Mrs Esco SPEARS. Cloyd: Mrs Dane WALDEN & Mrs Alton ROSS. Poplar Log: Roxie G ADAMS and Ada JEFFREY. Mt Gilead: Mrs Ione TEETERS. Old Rocky Hill: Shelvy HOLLAND. Boyd: Ish RICHEY. Free Will: Mrs Henry MYERS Mt Hermon: Mrs Eula GENTRY. Lyon: Mrs Neva CARTER. McPeak: Mrs Myrtle GUMM. Alexander: Travis STEENBERGEN. Hickory Grove: Mrs Corinna MOORE. Mt Zion: Mrs Chloe RITTER. Rocky Point; Mrs Denton BARTLEY. Cedar Hill: Mrs Buenna B TYREE. Hackers Branch: Kenneth HAYS. Sand Lick: Mrs Manche EMBERTON. Merryville: Mrs Ray BYBEE. Hmilton: Mrs Clyde HODGES. Union Hill: Mrs Lewis SRIGHT. Ivy Hill: Avo SYMPSON. Old Mt Hermon: Mrs Elva RITTER. Willow Springs: Mrs Willie MILLER. Oak Hill: Mrs Betty PAGE. Center Point: Mrs Bliss BROWN. Sulphur Ridge: Mrs Rosa WALDEN. Rush Point: Mrs Hazel ENGLAND. Liberty: S J MOORE. White: Mrs Mary D BIRGE. Janitors: Jesse HALE (Fountain Run), Delbert BEAN and Bueley DECKARD (Gamaliel), Tim DODSON and Glen WITTY (T'ville), Clarence CRAWFORD (T'ville Black school). If I mistyped - I apologize ... typed out! Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    10/17/2006 02:47:23
    1. [SCKY] MONROE CO - TIDBITS FROM 30 APR 1959 - PART 1
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. We're getting pretty modern in the tidbits - up to 30 Apr 1959, but it is history. 57 members of Local Battery are stationed on Letcher School Campus - Gov. CHANDLER arranges 24-hr leave for Juniors & Srs to attend banquet. 57 Monroe Co National Guardsmen, Battery "A", 623 Field Artillery Battalion are among 2,000 troops moved into the East KY Coal mining area last Sat; the governor offered the guardsmen into the strikebound coal fields following mob violence which included shootings, dynamitings and arson; they are stationed in Perry and Letcher Counties. The Governor regretted needing the action but "Lives of State Police are in jeopardy". The strikes have idled 7,000 men; 2 non-union men have been killed, dynamitings reported and a coal tipple burned at Combs with over $250,000 in damage. The article continues with information that also moved into the area were the 241st Tank Battalion from Barbourville, the 242nd Tank Battalion from Ashland, the 441st Field Artillery from Richmond and the 623rd Field Artillery from Glasgow. It started as a protest over salaries. Those from Monroe Co area included Lt Charles m TAYLOR, SFC Esmond M BARTLEY, SFC Charles J DODSON, SFC Bobby E GARMON, SFC Wayne E KING, SFC Willis E RICH Jr, SFC Wallace C RICH, SFC Ira E SPEARS, SFC Joe W TAYLOR, Sgt Jon P COSBY, Sgt Bobby L POLAND, Sgt Elmer E POLAND, Sgt William L PHILPOT, Sgt Jerome D TAYLOR, Sgt James D WHITE, Sgt Elmer V WALLER Jr, Sp/2 Ernest ENGLND Jr, SP/2 Harold E FRAZIER, Sgt Herman L HAMMER. The following are SP/3's: Billy J ANDERSON, Dewey ARNETT Jr, Carmon C BAXTER, Thomas H BEAN, Carlos H CARTER, Billie W CHAPMAN, Kenny L ELDRED, Joe L FERGUSON, Leon B FERGUSON, Radford M FLIPPIN, William D GERALDS, Claude E HAMILTON, Wayne T HAMMER, Ted KING, Cecil L LYONS, Irvin C SMITH, John M TAYLOR, Billy D TURNER and Noel E WHITE. PFC's included: Paul M ANDERSON, Jackie L BIRGE, Milton L BOYLES, George E BRANDON, James A DECKARD, Joe E FLIPPIN, Carl E FRAZIER, Charles E HALE, James E LEAMON, Willie LONG, Fred A NEAL, Edgar L STOUT, James T TOOLEY, John F ANDERSON, Carol H EMMERT and Henry W WATSON. Six students granted leave: Pfc Edgar L STOUT, Pfc Milton L BOYLES, Pfc George E BRANDON, SP/3 Dewey ARNETT Jr, SP/3 Leon B FERGUSON and Pfc James A DECKARD. It appears the students were granted a 24-hr leave in order to come back for the Junior/Senior Banquet. Funeral services for Michael ISENBERG Friday, 14 month old son of M/M Veachel Earl Isenberg of Inda, IN; he died at Inda Wed, 22 Apr 1959. Bro Carl JONES officiated; services at Free WIll and burial in the Isenberg Cemetery; Yokley Funeral Home in charge. Survived by parents and grandparents, M/M C J ISENBERG of rural Gamaliel and 2 sisters: Vickey and Rebecca Isenberg of Inda, IN. Funeral services for Mrs. Eva Lena BOWMAN SYMPSON, age 77, held at Skaggs Creek Baptist Church at 2 today; she died at her home Monday afternoon. Rev. Lucien E COLEMAN Jr officiated, burial Skaggs Creek Cemetery; Yokley Funreral Home in charge. She was a member of the Skaggs Creek Church; d/o the late Ozias BOWMAN and Lucinda Page SYMPSON. Her husband survives, W J SYMPSON. Also survived by 3 daughters - Mrs Paul CARTER, Mrs Benton BAXTER and Miss Avo Sympson, all of T'ville; three brothers - Dr Med Bowman of Summer Shade KY, Bart Bowman and Hubert Bowman, both of T'ville, 2 grandchildren, 3 great-grandchildren. to be continued in next post. Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    10/17/2006 02:06:13
    1. [SCKY] IN CLOSING MONDAY, 16 OCT 2006 - PUZZLER
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. I'm still collapsing from the weekend activities but am trying to get back into a normal routine on a rainy KY day. Charlie has posted the puzzler for the week; I think this one will be quite easy so go give it a try. Click on the URL in my signature line called gensoup and see! Tomorrow we'll look again at Monroe Co; Wed - Allen Co and Thursday, Hart Co. After one more post on the 1900 occupations, I'll be starting another series on Barren Co and am looking for some new material on the other counties we cover. Have a great day! Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    10/16/2006 01:37:31
    1. [SCKY] BARREN CO - OCCUPATIONS FROM 1900 CENSUS CONTINUED
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. I'm continuing this week, and will finish next week, the list of occupations from the 1900 Barren Co census as our ancestors reached toward the 20th century. As I noted last week, many of the ladies are appearing now with jobs other than housekeeping; on today's list, one gal has an unusual occupation for a woman of this era. Gardner: Frank W Barron, William Farmer, John Gavin, Kissie Hicks (and washing) Hack driver: Robert E. Preston, Scott Herd, George W Bartley Hand Painting: Samuel Greer Hod carrier: Henry Payne Horse Dealer: Samuel E Terry Horse trainer: Sanford Garnett Hotel keeper: James L Gerald, William D Hammer Hotel clerk/porter: Clarence Pace, Robert Page, Robert Camp House Builder: William Hodge, William R Britt, Houston Bishop House painting: William Jordan Insurance: Hardy C Smith, Tom C Bagby Jailer: Fountain Carter Jeweler: Fendell P Hagan, John B Delvaux, John M Bisel? Jewelry salesman: Firdinan Dinkelspeel Life Insurance agent: Oswald Mueller, Ed N Caldwell, Curtis Jones, Morgan Brents Livestock dealer: Thomas W Lasley Machinist: Lewis Slinker, Russell Slinker, Arthur U Ebert Mail carrier: Lovel Settle Mail contractor: Walter Owen Marble cutter: Murray Kilgore Millinery: Mrs Pamelia Jordan, Nancy J Dearing, Byrd Rogers, Emily Moss, Lillian Stone, Beulah Barrick, Loula Hatcher, Julia Monroe, Mary Adams, Mary E Reynolds, Nora Sloan Mining geologist: S S Goby(?) Mining superintendent: Thom Goby (?) Music teacher: Ed W Mack, Lizzie W Twyman, Pearl G Scott, Ruth B Terry Musician: Lorenzo D Carver Newsboy: Fleming G Railey, Elzie O Duerson Nightwatchman: Elias Shanks Oil driller: David Baker, Walter Dean Oil Inspectress: Allace Wright Oil refinery: Herbert C. Berry Oil salesman: Charles L Wing Optician: Monroe Dinkelspeel Painter: Mat Firquier, Sam Patch, Bur McQuoun, John R Gregory, Alfred Lane, Aron Patterson Penitentiary Guard: Henry C Masters Photographer: John T Clark, Adolphus Rapp Picture salesman: William Reynolds Porter: Harden Kinslow, Oliver Ferguson Postmaster: James F Taylor, Flavius A Taylor (assistant postmaster), Warner Word (postal clerk), Minnie E Reneau (assistant postmaster), Margaret P Reneau (assistant postmaster), Lena R Morton, Lucy W Barron, James B Whitney (assistant), Louise Proctor Post office clerk: Clara Taylor, Elmore Estes Poultry dealer: Morris Ferguson Printer: Lewis Pace, James Richardson, John D Masters, Brice Reynolds, Joe R Nunn, Walter Nunn, Day W Dickerson, Ewel Hancock, James T Curry, Warner Word Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    10/16/2006 01:32:06
    1. [SCKY] FRANKFORT SEMINAR
    2. Sandi Gorin
    3. Just a note this evening to say that I've returned safely from Frankfort and had a most marvelous time. If you have never visited the KY Historial Society Building there, please put that on your agenda when you come to KY! The program worked! I spoke for an hour before lunch on the options available for the self-publisher with pros and cons on all avenues. After a break for lunch we delved into copyrights, city, state and federal requirements, and internet publishing. There were approximately 75 people in attendance and I'm so proud of them - they didn't fall asleep! I was video taped and the program will be shown locally in Frankfort some time soon and then put on DVD. We had a lively question session and I was able to meet a lot of dedicated researchers ranging from brand new to over 20 years. Several from our lists were there and I was glad to meet them and I even got to meet one of our kinfolk who decided to drop in and see the program, not knowing I was the speaker. Right now I'm a little tired but it's a good tired! This was the most receptive audience I've spoken too and I truly enjoyed it. I just don't have much of a voice left! See you Monday, Sandi Sandi's Puzzlers: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gensoup/gorin/puz.html SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

    10/14/2006 11:33:50
    1. [SCKY] LIST OF PICTURES
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