Again, taken from the vital statistics. THOMAS: Cordelia, 6 mos, d/o Otto HUHN (Germany-KY), illegitimate, 1 Sept 1874. George, 67 yrs, 8 mos, 19 days, s/o William & Marry, southside, congestive fever, 15 July 1856. Henry C, 5 yrs, 3 mos, 3 days, northside, s/o R A & Grace (Washington Co-Hardin Co), typhoid, 4 Aug 1861. James Lucus, 4, parents not named (Hart-Taylor), 12 June 1877. THOMPSON: Christina, 1 yr, 8 mos, d/o W W & S M, southside, brain inflamation, 1 Nov 1857. D L, 6 mos, male, s/o H F & Mary (NC-KY), croup, 1 Jan 1874. James H, 28, married, s/o R S & America, typhoid, 7 Sept 1852. Mary M, 2 yrs, 3 mos, 26 days, northside, d/o William & Mary (Nelson Co-Washington Co), croup, 15 Dec 1861 Milton, 13, born Barren Co, d/o Washington & Narcissa, typhoid, 1 Dec 1852. Robert S, 54, county surveyor, born Pittsylvania Co CA, s/o William & Dorothy, dispepsia?, 13 Mar 1852. Virginia, 31, married, born Barren Co, d/o William & Elizabeth Embree, typhoid, 21 Dec 1852 Washington, 39, married, s/o William & Judith, typhoid, 21 Dec 1852. Thompson Slaves: Alexander, 10 mos, 5 days, owned by W W Thompson, southside, 15 May 1858. Allen, 4 mos, owned by same, southside, croup, 10 Aug 1859. America, 7 mos, owned by James H Thompson, hydrcephalis, Feb 1852. Bartlett, 80, born Albemarle Co VA, owned by Judith Thompson, retention of urine, 15 July 1852 Elizabeth Ann, 3 mos, estate of Robert S Thompson, erasiphilis, Sept 1852. John, 23, owned by James H Thompson, typhoid, 28 Sept 1852. Laura, 4, owned by same, croup, 10 Mar 1852. Martha, 26, owned by same, Feb 18?? Molly, 14, estate of R S Thompson, southside, typhoid, 1 Sept 1854 Peter, 27, owned by B F Thompson, consumption, 11 Feb 1855 Phebe, 50, owned by Judith Thompson, dropsy, Aug 1852 Reuben, 1, owned by James H Thompson, croup, 10 Mar 1852. Sally, 14, owned by same, pneumonia, 2 Mar 1852 THORNBERRY, John T, 43, merchant, married, s/o Thomas & Mildred (KY-KY), consumpton, 6 July 1876. THORNBERRY, No First, 1 day, male, s/o J T & Mary, 15 Feb 1858. THORNTON, Mariah, Black, 19, married, d/o Allen & Mariah (Green-Green), cold, Mar 1877. THORNTON, Nancy, 50, married, merchant's wife, resided Woodsonville KY, born Washington Co PA, d/o Nancy HALL, died Woodsonville, chronic liver disease, 15 Apr 1852. THURSTON, Abram, 5 yrs, 5 mos, born Barren Co, s/o Hannibal & Lurissa, died Barren Co, southside, 20 Oct 1854. TISDALE: Alfred W, 24, single, teacher & minister, s/o H W & H A (KY-KY), enlaragement of lungs, 16 Dec 1874. F? W, 75, male, married, s/o H & L (VA-VA), pneumonia, 3 Dec 1892. Henry S, 17 mos?, s/o F M & Minnie (Hart-Hart), 12 Nov 1903. Samuel W, 1, s/o Henry W & Hester A, southside, brain inflamation, 16 Aug 1858. TOLLS (see also TOWLES) to be posted later. Leroy, 14 yrs, 6 mos, born Barren Co, d/o Mary, dropsy, 1 Mar 1855. To be continued next week with TOMS. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

TIP 623 - A PLEA FOR HELP - EASTERN STATE HOSPITAL For this research tip, I am posting not only to listers at KYRESEARCH but also to my KYBIOGRAPHIES and two other lists. I have just learned of a new rootsweb site that deserves all of our attention and help. Mary Hatton and Jerry Taylor, two wonderful researchers and great gals as well, have undertaken a project involving Eastern State Hospital Cemetery in Lexington, KY. Let's look at a little background information: >From the time when Kentucky reached statehood in 1792 and reaching into 1824, mentally disturbed citizens of the Commonwealth were normally boarded out with other citizens - relatives, concerned neighbors, or those who just took mercy on the condition of the individual. In many of the early court records of the state will be found payments made individuals for "the care of …." A few people were sent to Eastern State Hospital at Williamsburg, VA if they were financially able to afford their keeping at this institution. It took 24 years, but a group of citizens of Lexington established a hospital originally known as the Fayette Hospital. Its patients were to include the "poor, disabled and "lunatic" members of society." In 1817 the Honorable Henry Clay spoke at the dedication of the facility even though the building was not finished and there were no patients. It took another five years for the General Assembly of the Commonwealth to pass an "Act to Establish a Lunatic Asylum". Ten acres of land were set aside and the still unfinished building dedicated in 1817 and the Fayette Hospital welcomed its first patient on May 1, 1824, yet another two years later. In 1828, in a dissertation by Samuel Theobold, M.D., (Transylvania University) it was stated that the goal of the hospital was "the custodial care of the insane and the protection of society…Most of the lunatics admitted were incurable cases, as non-violent insane were to be maintained in private homes, being sent to the hospital when no longer tame enough to be kept at home…" According to information found, the care was minimal. Some patients were treated by local doctors or the Transylvania College of Medicine. Many years later, in 1844, Eastern State Hospital gained its first medical superintendent, Dr. John Rowan Allen. With his administration, "moral treatment" was to be observed - compassion and understanding treatment. The environment had been far from kind. Straight jackets, leather cuffs, chains and other restraining devises were used - common treatment for the day. Dr. Allen wanted to eliminate these conditions and succeeded until around the end of the Civil War. Transylvania University Medical School had closed; more patients were admitted, over-crowding became a problem and the restraints returned. All in all, the staff tried their best. In early years, patients were admitted from all over the state and other states; in 1945 there were over 2,000 patients; in 1967 there were over 1,000. Many employees lived on the grounds in cottages, dorms or in rooms at the hospital. They also did farm work, mending, washing of dishes, maintained buildings and other jobs. With time there were changes in treatment including shock therapy and tranquilizers. The original name of Eastern State Hospital was the Lunatic Asylum. In 1876, it was called Eastern Kentucky Lunatic Asylum. On January 2, 1912, the General Assembly, Commonwealth of Kentucky, officially renamed the facility Eastern State Hospital. Now we move to the plea for help. At the hospital is a cemetery that was used from the first quarter of the 19th century until the early 1950's. No one has an actual count of how many have been buried here, but some estimates set the number as high as 10,000 or more! The Eastern State Hospital Cemetery Club is trying to identify those who lived and died at the hospital when the cemetery was in use. As researchers know, it was not until 1911 that the State of Kentucky kept birth and death records with the exception of the scattered years that vital statistics were kept by the counties. Here enters Mary and Jerry who have established a website that is full of information on the hospital and what they are searching. I will give you a link to their site at the end of this post. They have transcribed several years of death certificates, scanned newspapers, read census records. Mary notes that in 1870 there were 508 patients ranging in age from 7 years to 79 years of age. A quote from the Herald-Leader staff writer Emily Yahr sums up the condition of the cemetery: "Located about a half-mile behind Eastern State Hospital, the nearly one-acre plot has a few scattered trees, a dirt-covered bench and several bright yellow lilies that seem out of place. There is a lone, rather arbitrarily placed tombstone that reads: "Celebrating their dignity." The monument reeks of irony, said Bruce Burris, the leader of the restoration effort. Because the cemetery has been disturbed over the years by construction projects, hundreds of human remains have been mixed together and re-buried, making it nearly impossible to tell who is buried where, said Burris, who has been researching the cemetery for several years. One reason for the nameless graves, he said, is that people were ashamed of the stigma of mental illness. As a result, family and friends sometimes did not claim their loved ones when they died. Some never knew they were there. Many patients were just abandoned or became wards of the state. "Back then, people hushed their mouths up. They didn't talk about things," Taylor, 52, said. "It's not that it was a bad thing, but a hospital like that ... it was taboo." Can you help? I am asking you to please check out the Eastern Hospital's Cemetery website and if you have any information, contact Mary Hatton, whose email address is linked. You will find many photographs, census records, death certificates (actual images), newspaper obituaries, and more history. You can learn more about the cemetery club. You just might find someone there whose name you recognize. If you can help in any way, know of any burials in the cemetery there, have any information at all …. It will be greatly appreciated. The website referenced is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~kygenweb/esh/#Eastern_State_Hospital_Census ©Copyright 11 January 2007, Sandra K. Gorin SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I just received the following announcement and wanted to pass it on to you. If you haven't heard Mark and you're close to Bowling Green on the 15th - please make the effort to stop in for this session. Mark is a very knowledgeable professional researcher and a very interesting speaker. If you attend, go introduce yourself and say "Sandi sent me"! I regret that I can't attend, not being able to drive at night any longer because his programs are always so informative. Here is the announcement: Mark Lowe is speaking at the Southern Kentucky Genealogical Society meeting on Monday, January 15 at 6:30 p.m. at the Kentucky Library at Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green. His topic will be "Five Ways to Jump Start Your Research in 2007." I wondered if you would post this to your list. The meeting is open to all. SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

My 4GGrandmother, Annie DOUGLASS TIMBERLAKE, was born in Albemarle Co., VA. She married Joseph TIMBERLAKE, Sr., also of VA. According to family history books, they moved to Cumberland Co., KY around 1795. However, Cumberland Co. was not a county until 1798 and was formed from Green Co. Annie supposedly died around 1815 in Russell Co., KY, according to the books, and is buried there. However, Russell Co. was not a county until 1825 and was formed from Cumberland Co. Joseph is listed in the Cumberland Co., KY census in 1820 and in the 1830 Hart Co., KY census having died there in 1841. Based on KY census maps, would Annie's records be in Green Co. and would her grave actually be in present Russell Co.? She seems to have disappeared with no paper trail. Judy Timberlake Lawler Hart Co., KY

(Glasgow Municipal continued): Bess Hestand Garnett, Hallie Garnett, Joseph R Garnett, Richard E Garnett MD, Levy Geralds, Raymond Gill, E P Gillenwater, Ada Gillock, Lucinda Glass, Bennie Golden, Henry W Goodman, Annie W(eisiger) Gorin, Thomas J(efferson) Gorin, Jimmie L Gray, Mary Lou Gray, Wallace Gray, Murrel H Grider, Annie Gillock Grizzle, Lillian Grooms, Raymond J Gumm Annie Myers Hadden, Felix B Hagan, Katie P Hale, Carlous L Hamilton, John S(am) Hammer, Wesley Bowles Hammer, John H Harlin, Morris Wolford Harlow, Ora May Harlow, Ova Mae Harlow, Paul Harlow, Floyd Harper, Lena Brown Adams Harpst, Della Smith Hararison, Hayden Richard Harrison, Elizabeth Watson Harvey, Marvin Jasper Harwood, C(larence) H Hatchett, Maynard Jones Hatter (is a Mrs.), Henry Albert Hayes Jr, George Rochester Helm, Dealie Henson, Grover C Hicks, Nellie M Hiser, Donald H Hodges, Dorothy Malone Hodges, Cynthia Ann Tichenor Holloway, Gertrude Barrick Holman, Guy A Holman, Margaret Slack Holman, Oscar E Holman, Paul W(ilson) Holman, Nora Pelda Horning, Margaret Houchens, Bess Howard, Willie E Howard, George B Huddleston, Sallie Reynolds Huggins, Terry L Humble, Guy Hume, Nolin L Humphrey, William Frank Humphrey, Wiley Huskisson Henry P Isenberg, Will Railey Jackman, Jacob Thomas Jackson, Ella H Jenkins, Dr Jesse James Jepson, Beatrice Jessie, Charles H Jessie, Polly B Jessie, Elbert F Jewell, Garner M Jewell, Elizabeth Beatrice Johnson, Eloise N Johnson, Mary j Johnson, Charles L Jones, H Dexter Jones, Harriet F Jones, John W Jones, Lera May Jones, Noah Jones, Ruby Mae Jones, Vincent Reynolds Jones Jr, Willie T Jones, Ada Jordan, Anna Jordan, Guy E Jordan, Jewell H Jordan, Permelia S Jordan, Ray Jordan, Wendell S Jordan Ronnie A Key, James David "Cobb" Keys, Winnie F Kidd, Sallie Lewis Kincheloe, Bernice C King, Ralph D Kinnaird, Levata C Kinslow, Luther A Kinslow, Minnie t Kinslow, Patgricia Ann Kinslow, Riley W Kinslow, Sarah E Kinslow, Stella P Kinslow, Willie M Kinslow, Young Kinslow, Goldie (Syra) Kirby Pearl Landrum, Eula B Lane, Fran, M Laswell, Lermon Lazarus, Dr Joseph S Leech, John Leech, Joe F Leftwich, John Bryan Lessenberry, Lizzie Etta Lessenberry, Lottie Lethgo, George R Lewis, Ray R Lewis, Richard T Lindsey, Dewey Lohden, Lucy Garnett Lucas, Sallie Lynn, Lottie Jane Lyons Earl E Magers, Annie J Mansfield, George H Mansfield, Robert Thomas Mansfield, Robert Marr, Lela Powell Marrs, Glade Crabtree Marshall, James B Marshall, Robert Rex Marshall, Nettie F Mamrshall, James Brien Martin, Beatrice Matthews, Edgar R Matthews, Edward M Matthews, Evie Matthews, Herman C Matthews, James A(llen) Matthews, Mae Dearing Matthews, Pauline E Matthews, Tip Matthews, Creed H Maxey, Terry H Maxey, Pearl L Mayfield, Wiley McCluskey, James D(avidson) McConnell, Emma S McFarland, Ulysses G McFarland, Ada Foster McGuire, Rose C McGuire, William H McIntyre, Mary Olive McNamara, Louis A McQuown, A Elvis Meador, Eva E Meador, Vinia L Mercer, William G Mercer, John Sam Miller, Robert Dale Miller, Robert L Miller, Ruth D Miller, Hugh T Moore, Linda B Moore, Gus Morris, Mary l Dickey Morris, William Redding Morris, C(hristopher) Morrison, Kate Breeding Mosby, William 'Mose" Mosby, Raymond Lee Mutter Leslie Nabors, Marc Douglas Nantz, Joeph Lorien Nelson, Earl C Nichols, Earlene S Nichols, Harvey A Nichols, Nat Nichols, Polly L Nichols, Wendell H Nichols, Joseph Wells Nolen, Lee R Nolen Jr, Caroline Compton Norris, Porter Norris, C Paul Nuckols, Lela Nuckols, Oaks, Cleve L, Euell Oliver, Flossie D Oliver, John W Oliver, M C (Mary Catherine) Oliver, Clarence R Osborne, Ida K Osborne, Kenneth Adams Osborne, John Edmond Owen, Emma L Owsley Harry W Pace, Marvin G Pace, Kathryn Palmore, Nan B. Payne, Alonzo E Peden, Archie M Peden, Cloteel H Peden, E H Peden, Guy C Peden, Ivan Hollis Peden, James M(ack) Peden, Kirby S(mith) Peden, Lewis N Peden, Lillie Whitney Peden, Lou Ella Owen Peden, Lucy B(elle) Peden, Maxie C Peden, Morgan H Peden, Pearl E Peden, Sarah D Peden, Albert W Pedigo, Howard tgandy Pedigo, I A (Isaac Alonzo) Pedigo, Mary Ellen Pedigo, Lucille Story Peers, T Philip Pendleton, Joel S Perkins, Willie J Pickett, Nettie Elle Pitcock, Loujean (Depp) Pitt, Gerry Lee Poidexter, Annie Polson, Edna Polson, Jewell Polson, Verna J(ewell) Polson, Willard J Polson, Arthur A Pons, Leon Poore, Jesse Smith Porter, Lucy Page Porter, Bell Jones Poteet, Carrie W Powell, Flem H Powell, Katherine Pritchard, Roger Pritchard, Will Pritchard J T Rader, Jessie Melvin Ralston, Roy Dean Ramsey, Mary E Dixon Rapp, Emma Read, Nellie D Read, Walter W Read, Ella Hawkins Redding, Francis Marion Redford, Ivy Bland Redford, Marshall (Samuel) Redford, Spotford Earl Redford, Flora Bailey Reeves, Edmund L Renfro, Elizabeth S Renfro, James J Renfro, Basil Richardson, Bernice S Richardson, Ivan M Richaardson, Roger M Riddle, Marie Spadara Ristori, John Thomas Rogers, Lewis P Rogers, Lillian Ross, John McLean Rouseau, Clarence F Rowland, Andrew j Russell Helen Elliott Sabens, Ernest Scott, Litttie Scruggs, Beulah K Settle, J Wooten Settle, Martha Frances Shader, Brents Shipley, Ella C Davis Shobe, John S Shoopman, Hattie B Sidden, C Vianna Simmons, John R(obert) (Sr) Sisco, Henry Kenneth Sizemore, Alfred E Smith, Boyd Smith, Burton Reid Smith, Clara Mae Smith, Ella Butler Smith, Gwynne Smith, Harry Gorin Smith, Mary Francis Smith, Ricky Lynn Smith, Sarah E Smith, Thomas Hood Smith, Uberta W Smith, William Glen Smith, Wilson L Smith, Dona E Smoot, S G Snoddy, Mary Orena Spann, Robert Morris Spencer, Robert Ellis Spillman, Frank Molton Starr, Roger H Steenbergen, Clyde Ellis Steffey, Walter Lee Steffey, E Clayton Stewart, Claude 'Bud" Stout, Della M "Dovie" Stout, Robert Grinstead Stout, Ruby Aline Strange, Otto Murry Sumers, Wesley F Swambach, B S Sweeza Ollie Dodson Tandy, Alice Gorin Taylor, F J (Flavious Joseph) Taylor MD, Gola M Taylor, Kyle Jackson Taylor, Nell M(McGlocklin) Taylor, Neva Taylor, C W Terry, Edwin Burch Terry, Emily Thomas, Grace Young Taylor, Josephine Tobin, William Taylor Tomlin, Henry Buckner Trabue, William m Trautman, Ann Ballard Trigg, Charlotte Walker Trigg, Haiden Cur Trigg, Louise B Trigg, William B Turner Josie Underwood, Mattie J(ohnson) Vance, R(oger) Vance, Sally Maude Vaughn, Eliza J Wade, Louisa Brown Walbert, Thomas Carl Walbert, Chas H Warder, Dora Warder, Helen L Washburn, Louis C Washburn, Edward D Watkins, Roy Edward Watkins, Exie L Watson, James E Watson, Annie B Wells, B K Wells, Gladys W Wells, Nancy j Wells, William A(ndy) Wells, Josephine Wood Wheeler, Wilma Alice Wheeler, Garland T Whitney, N Eloise Wilkinson (shown Wilkerson in book), Moses E Wilkinson, Charlie Grover Williams, Elva Huffman Williams, Selma Pauline Williamson, Ronald Willis, Ellis p Wilson, Frank E Wilson, Mallie B Wilson, Morris P(age) Wilson, Ruth A Wilson, Alice Winegar, Elvira Winlock, J T C Winlock, Gertie Lee Witt, Flossie Kirby Wood, Joseph l Wood, Virgie Willis Wood, John E Woodcock, Vera L Woodcock, Ivan Wooten, Louise J Wood, Veachel Word, Gladys Lavern Wyatt Graves Cemetery: Donna Sue Eudy Green Cemetery (Black): Velma M Clark, James Vernon Twyman, Walter G Williams Sr Groce Cem: Frank Groce, Minnie Groce, Oren E Groce, Teri Rae Groce, William A Matthew SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

TAYLOR, Benjamin, Pennsylvania, W28006. Was living in Daviess Co KY when he applied for a pension on 9 Dec 1833, age 77. Born 31 Mar 1756. Enlisted in Bucks Co PA 7 July 1777. Widow, Catharine, filed her claim for widow's pension 28 June 1843, age 87 while she was residing in Daviess Co. They were married March 1774. Family record: Mary Taylor born 7 Feb 1775. Ann Taylor born 8 Mar 1782. Susannah Taylor born 23 Nov 1783. Henry Taylor born 15 July 1787. Rebeckah taylor born 25 Sept 1789. Martha Taylor born 9 Mar 1790. Leannah Taylor born 28 Feb 1796. Sarah Taylor born 16 Mar 1798. Samuel Taylor born 2 May 1800. Archibald Taylor born 20 Mar 1803. John A Taylor was married to Polly BUCKNER 29 Apr 1821 and again to Margaret BROWN 30 Nov 1828. ** WADE, Richard, VA, S3443. Living in Cumberland Co when he applied for pension 12 July 1833, age 81. Born Goochland Co VA 26 Oct 1752. Enlisted at Williamsburg, James Co VA March 1777. Moved from VA to Madison Co KY, lived there until 1801. Moved to Wayne Co KY. George RICHARDSON states in Cumberland Co 12 July 1833 that he was 75 yrs old and moved to KY in 1801, knew Richard WADE in 1777. ** WHITAKER, William, GA, S31473. Was living in Cumberland Co when applying 26 May 1834, age 74. Born 15 Feb 1760. Enlisted in Wilkes Co GA June 1776. Born in the county or district of Burvin NC. Since the war has lived in TN, then to NC near to Moravian Towns, then to the Adkin River, lived in same state 3 yrs. Then to Lancaster Co SC for 5 years, then to Mercer Co KY for 1 year, then to Cumberland Co, then to White Co TN until 1829, then moved back to Cumberland Co. ** RICHARDSON, George, VA, S 14293. Living in Cumberland Co when applying Dec 1832, age 75. Born Bedford Co VA 1750, lived there until 1798. Moved to TN, then to KY in 1802. Shadrach CLAYWELL provided affidavit that he knew soldier in Bedford Co VA. Filed 12 Dec 1832 when affiant's age was 72. ** ROWE/ROE, William, VA, W3044. Living in Cumberland Co when filing for pension 15 Nov 1820, age 64. enlistede in VA 1776. Children are: Sally, born about 1804; Mary Ann, born abt 1809; Lou Terrill?, born abt 1811; Hiram, born about 1800; and Robert and Joseph C (no dates). Widow's name was Sally TOWLES. They married in Culpeper Co VA 31 Mar 1787. She filed for widow's pension while residing in Russell Co KY 30 Jan 1839, age 70. ** SMITH, Samuel, NC, R9833. Lived in Cumberland Co when applying 12 Dec 1832, age 77. Born Pittsylvania Co VA; enlisted Burke Co NC in 1778. In 1773 moved to Burke Co NC and from there to KY in 1802 or 1804. Children were: John, Nancy and Martin. Widow, Rachel, field for widow's pension 1852, age 85, resided Cumberland Co. They were married 7 Aug 1776. Affadavit of fellow soldier was from Valentine GRIDER/GRYDER made in Cumberland Co 13 Dec 1832. Knew solder in VA. John GRIDER/GRYDER, age 79 of Adair Co KY made similar statement in 1852. ** SEWELL, Joseph, NC, S31354. Made application in Cumberland Co 15 Nov 1832, age 79. Born Elk Ridge, Howard Co MD in 1753. Enlisted in WILKES Co in NC April 1st at beginning of war. Two years after the war moved to Carter Co TN, lived there 30 yrs and then moved to KY. To be continued next week. Sandi. SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

My GGG Grandfather was Joe Phillips, Billie Phillips was my grandfather. I'm trying to track down what I can on Joe Phillips - I've heard stories from family members that he left his wife & children in Taylor County and never came back - I've also heard that he had another family in another county. In the 1870 Taylor County Census, Joseph Phillips is listed at 23 years old, with a wife & two young children. Based on the names of the children, this is the only census entry I am sure is referring to my ancestor. In the 1860 Taylor County census, there is a Jos W Phillips, 14 years old, residing with the SUBLETT family In 1880, there is no Joseph Phillips in Taylor County, but in the Anderson County Census, there is a Joseph W Phillips, 33 years old, with a wife & 5 kids, the oldest of which is 11. Here is what I know, based on family knowledge: 1-Joe PHILLIPS (-) . .2-William Greene PHILLIPS (-) . . +Louisa Jane SHIPP (1869-) . . . 3-Elmer Lee PHILLIPS (November 22, 1899-November 21, 1973) . . . +Emme Estella WILLIS (April 1, 1901-August 27, 1982) . . . . .4-William Lee "Billie" PHILLIPS (July 30, 1928-September 27, 2006) Any assistance or information anyone could provide on Joe Phillips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in Advance, Eric Clark

Goodhope Baptist Church was originally in Barren Co, but with the formation of Metcalfe Co in 1860, it came within the bounds of that county. On July 14th 1838 the founding members met at a schoolhouse near Mr "VINZANT's" and constituted as a Separate Baptist Church. Abraham WOODARD, David ELKIN and Alexander GUPTON were the constituting men; they were to be a part of the Nolin Association of Separate Baptists. The names of the original members included: Abraham WOODARD, Silas WOODARD, John W WOODARD, Wesley GALLOWAY, Pleasant GALLOWAY, Willis GALLOWAY, Thomas GALLOWAY, John HARVEY, Liberty G SLINKLER, James H MIZE, James J CARTER, George W CARTER, Burrel B MIZE, John SLINKER (name marked out), Alexander FROGGET (name marked out), James CARR, Sally GALLOWAY, Sally G SLINKER, Melinda EDWARDS, Bathsheba U SLINKER, Melinda GALLOWAY, Susannah L SLINKER, Esther SLINKER, Mary Ann JEFFRIES, Rachel JEFFRIES, Nancy SLINKER, Nancy MITCHELL, Jane FROGET, Sally BOSTON, Nancy WOODARD, Patsey MIZE. Findley M SLINKER joined 15 July 1838, the first member to join after the constitution of the church. The next list shows the members again, this list is not dated.. Abraham WOODARD. Silas WOODARD, died June 1844. John W WOODWARD, dismissed by letter in 1848. Pleasant GALLOWAY, died January 1838.Willis GALLOWAY, dismised January 1839 by letter. Thomas GALLOWAY, died July 1846. John HARVEY, excluded January 1843. Liberty G SLINKER, ordained a deacon July 1839. James J CARTER, excluded January 1844. George W CARTER. Burrel B MIZE. James CARR, excluded May 1842. Findley M SLINKER, joined by experience July 1838. William DUNN, Oct 1838 (assumed joined). Allen CHAMBERS, excluded Aug 1838. John (of Colour, McDONALD), joined by experience July 1839. Isaac EDWARDS, joined by experience, dismissed Aug 1839. Peter McKENNY, received by experience Aug 1839. Alexander FROGGETT, received by baptism 1839; excluded 1842. Medford SHOCKLEY, received by experience & baptism Oct 1839. Ansel JONES, received by experience & baptism, Oct 1839. Frances FROGGETT, received by experience and baptism 1839, excluded Oct 1843. Joseph EDWARDS, received by experience & baptism Oct 1839. John BOSTON, received by experience & baptism 1839, excluded. John B HILL, by exeprience & baptism Oct 1839. Thomas SHOCKLEY, same. (two listings). Edward HENCELY, by experience & baptism Oct? 1839, 1840 (assumed left or died, not noted). W H CARTER, by experience & baptism Oct 1839. Thomas CULLINS, same, Oct - possibly same date. Julius WOODARD, experience & baptism Oct 1839, dead 1840. John THOMPSON, experience & baptism Nov 1839. John HENCELY Sr, same in Dec 1840. Isham GALLOWAY, received 1840. Russell BRAGG, by baptism & experience Dec 1840. John S SLAUGHTER, same Oct 1840, died 1846. Marion HARDING, received by baptism & experience Sept 1841. Marion HUFFMAN, same Sept 1842. John, (a Coloured man), same Oct 1842, died 1844. Morris NUNALLY, experience & baptism Nov 1842. Thomas HUFFMAN, same Nov 1842. DEPP's Dick (slave), same, Nov 1842. DENHAM's John (slave), same Nov 1842. William H NUNALLY, same Nov 1842. Austine FORD, same Feb 1843. David GALLOWAY, same Oct 1843. William THOMPSON, same Oct 1843. William HIND, save Nov 1844, excluded 1847. The following are shown with no information (all males): John SLINKER, V L CLARK, J K MITCHEL, Y H MITCHEL, E MITCHEL, C W CLARK, A M BOSTON, J M HENSLEY, J C GIBSON, N J PERRY, E K MITCHEL, M A PERRY, M B BRAGG, M F CLARK, M N MARTIN, J MITCHEL, P E MITCHEL, M C PERRY, N J HENSLEY, S C? CLARK, D Y? MITCHEL, M L LAMBIRTH, J A LAMBIRTH, N HENSLY, M R MITCHEL. To be continued next week with the female members. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Darter Cemetery: Benjamin Dean, Bernus Wesley Dean, Mary E Mansfield. Depp Cemetery: Alice M Depp, Clem L Depp Deweese Cemetery: Virgle Abner, John A Glass, Deloise J Houchens, Doris E Houchens, Junie Patrick, William Wright, Malnda Yeakly. Duval Cemetery #1: Mary L Duval Ellis Cemetery #2: Sallie Greer Ellis Emerson Cemetery #3: Thomas H Emerson Eubank Cemetery: William Gary Eubank Evergreen Cemetery: Ernest Franklin Baulch, Dona Denton Davis, Christine Gordon Demunbrun, Eva Dennison, Malcolm Mars Downey, Stuard England, Willie France, Frances Louise Gardner, Paul S Gentry, Agnes Gordon, Elmer Higgenbotham, Lillie Age Meredith, Lue Settie Ray, Allie Richard, Shelley Riherd, Orvil Shagg Thompson, Leland B "Bob" Toms, Ira L Winchester. Fisher Cemetery #1: R H Underwod Foster Cemetery #2: Ilma Matthews Foster Glasgow Memorial - Happy Valley: W T Alstatt, J Hermon Anderson, Henry Bailey, Wendell K Bailey, J Frank Baise, Vince Ballard, James Arthur Bennett, Margaret 'Fannie" Bennett, Terry D Bishop, Herbert C Bowles, Arthur L Britt, Gilbert T Britt, Maymie L Brown, E P (Ernest Porter) Bush, Leon Byrd, Pearl B Byrd, Marion R Cary, John W Bill Chapman, Wm Mack Cherry, William Thomas Church, David E Clay, Clarence Coffey, Gary Lee Compton, Joseph Howard Cooksey, Paul Crabtree, T Mitchell Crabtree, Geneva Simmons Denham, Tommy Basel Denham, Lois A Depp, Florince C Edwards, Roy Dan Emmitt, Woodard Furlong, Eddie May Gentry, Zora E Glass, Stanley T Grady, Ezra Kenneth Groce, Edward Lee Hagan, Edward Dale "Rusty" Hagan, James D Hall, Aubrey Lee Hawks, Katherine Holder, Dwight Houchens, Homer W Howell, Ruth Groce Huff, Jimmie L Hyde, Deonnie P Isenberg, Jennifer Kay Jones, Ina A Keath, Barlow G Key, Pearl Kingrey, Guy Lawrence, William H Magers, James William Martin, Pauline E Martin, Vera M Martin, T Reedy Mattahews, Annie P Shirley Morgan, Zone Walker Norman, Earl Norris, Hershel T Pedigo, John M Pedigo, Laura W Pitcock, Lawrence Pritchard, Clyde Richardson, Florence E(dna) Riddle, Dewey A Rook, Martha Scott, Arthur G Shaw, Anna E Shelton, Bertha L Wshelton, R Mitchell Sherfey, Dock Slagle Jr, Chester H Smith, Ernest M Smith, Sammie R Speck, James Ova Starnes, Delmer Ray Steenbergen, Blanche Wilborn Taylor, Mary E Taylor, Ottie Otto Thomason (shown Thomperson in book), Harry B Tolle, Josephine (E) Taylor, Maxie Reid Walden, Willie W Walden, Clarence Walker, Martha Wiley, Rex Wooten, Gladys L Young. Glasgow Muni: Geneva R Abell, H Eugene Abell, Anthony Lynn "Tony" Abney, Hattie Bybee Adams, Raymond Adams, Bronner S(cott) Adwell, Mitchel C Agers, Alice Goff Akers, Birdie V Alexander, Grace F Allen, Joshua B Anderson, Waller Raymond Anderson, Margaret A(lberta) Atnip, Herschel B Austin George Lee Bacon, Elizabeyth R Bailey, John Richad Baley, Martha A Bailey, Mildred M Bailey, Mildred M Bailey, Almira E Barbour, Beulah M Barbour, Ruby May Barnes, Clarence Barton, Evelyn Barton, Jim Barton, Robert H Barton, Thomas W Batdorf, Mattie Reid Beatty, Harry C Berry, Mary E Berry, Sudie S Berry, Hawley Bertram, Hal Thomas Biggers, Milo T Biggers, Nettie Winlock Billings, Dewey W Billinsley, Meade H Bishop, James Black, Matthew Blazejewski, Emma Warder Bohannon, Charles Elam Boles, Margaret Pedigo Boles, John T Boone, Glen Pete Borders, Lucy Kinslow Borders, T M Borers, Larray G Boucher, Alroy S Boyd, Vcornelia Shader Boyd, Charles Nicholas Boyter, Celia Ann Bradshaw, Nat Bradshaw, Virgie Bradshaw, Herbert L Branham, Raymond N Bridges, Ernest Britt, Jack Britt, Robert B(ronston} Broady, Herman Brooks, Alyne Franklin Brown, Robert M Brown, Eugene T Brownfield, Buford Brumett, Russel Bryan, Bertha L Bryant, Vechel H Buckingham, Wanda L Buckinham, Flossie Williams Bunch, Robert Lee Bunch, Willie M Burton, Elbert P Button, John Button, Pearl Dodd Button, Robbie H Button, Sophronia Button, Thomas Button, Franklin G Bybee, Robert D Bybee, Lonnie L Byrd Grace L Cain, Alanson Trigg Caldwell, Ruey F Cannon, Jennie Lynn Carr, Judith Kate Cartwright, Mary m Cassady, Susie Y Chamberlain, George E Chaplin, Vera A Chaplin, Clifton W (William Clifton) Chapman, Gary W Chapman, Dick Smith Childress, Nettie M Chism, Tolbert T(homas) Chism, Crit T Christmas, Ellis E Church, Guy F Church, David S Clark, James Eli Clayton, Mary Richardson Coffman, Ada Wood Collins, Alice Foster Collins, Hal Young Collins, Mary Virignia Compton, Maxie P Compton, W E Cook, Dock J Cooksey, Edward G Cornelius, Pierce P Cox, Freddie Cunningham, Carolin Currie Howard Nickles Daniel Jr, B G Davidson II, Benjamin Gideon Davidson, Catherine Jackman Davidson, C Willard Davis, G H Davis, Mattie L Davis, Verda Davis, Alice Francis Dean, Lawrence Dean, Nina Dean, Mildred C Weber Dearing, Bubby A Decker, V Murrell Denton, Adolphus Depp, Dora Dougherty Depp, Floyd C Depp, Frank R Depp, Joel R Depp, Joel W Depp, Laura Settle Depp, Lucian A Depp, Mary C Depp, Addie Belle Dickey, Brents Dickinson Jr, Thomas Page Dickinson, Warren Dockery, Edna Marie Dodson, Edwin M Dorsey, Ruel Dotson, Martha A Dougherty, James Aldridge Downing, Jessie Clay Doyle Jr, George William Drane, Laura Jean Drane, Winfred C Duncan Etta E Eatmon, Mattie Eaton, James D Ebert, Jessie F Edmunds, John Ray Edmunds, Lillie M Edmunds, Berta S Edwards, Andrew J "Smokey" Eldridge, Jesse Wilson 'Doc" Elliott, George J Ellis, Harry B Ellis, Mollie N Ellis, Beauty Ellison, Eugene T(homas) Ellison, Tabitha J Ellison, Ethel E Elmore, Paul C Elmore, Tank Elmore, Jane Banks Ely, Cloteel M England, Louise P England, Rex England, Jesse J Eubank, Mary Eubank, Shelby Thomas Eudey, Idelle Elliott Evans Fielding J Fant, Fred Edgar Fentress, Eugene Y(etman) Ferguson, Thomas E Fields, Leslie Lee Fish, Lucy J Fisher, Willard Lee Fisher, Howard Forbis, Hubert Stanley Forbis, George T Ford, George M Fortune, Crump Foster, Iland Lee Franklin, Mary Catharine Franklin, Mary E Franklin, Samuel H Franklin, Thomas W Franklin, W W Franklin, William W 'Fritz" Fredericks, Annie Mae Freeman, Zoie Mable Freeman, Chris T Furlong, Louis Dow Furlong SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I don't know if this will be a help to any of you or not - but just in case. As you know, for the past 10 years, I have been posting obituaries of Barren Countians taken from the local newspapers. Those of you on the KYBARREN list have been getting the past year or so as they are cross-posted from the Barren Co board. I've been able to get about 2500 obits posted ranging from the 1890's to current times and am still posting. Some have graciously been contributed by others. The obituaries are for individuals found in the Barren Co Cemetery book published by our historical society. I'm going thru the cemetery book and making a list of the obituaries I've posted - the names and the cemetery in which they are buried. If they were not listed in the cemetery book, they do not appear on my list but could be found on the Barren Co board. So, as I get these typed up, I am going to post them to the list in a one-time effort and you can easily see if one of your family's obituary is on line. If you find one, click on the URL in my signature line called SCKY links, then click on the Barren Co board link. You can then do a search for that name (being sure to just search on the Barren Co board, not all of rootsweb and the abstract of the obituary will be there with all family information, burial information etc. that was shown. Here is the first list covering the Anderson Cemetery through the Crenshaw Cemetery. More will follow, likely one per day. Sandi Anderson Cemetery: Martha Tuder Harvey Austin Cemetery: Zebedee Berry, George W Bush, Isaac Hayden Gillock, W F Helm, Ethel Holder, Oscar J Holder, Flora Etta Kngrey, Quilley D Livesay, Elvirtie Bush Rigney, Lucy Witt. Barber Cemetery (black): Carrie Mae Duerson Barlow Cemetery (Black): Jennie Buford, Leonard C Herndon, Darnell Devon Hunter, Sherman Lee, John Henry Mattingly, William L Maupin, Lora Verda Riggs, George Earl Robinson. Beech Grove: Myrtie R Bridges, Walter Crawhorn, Lera Owen Davison, Roger H Foster, Lebrus M Frankum, Lola Green Frankum, Minnie L Furlong, Ruby L Lewis, Jim Ed Lyons. Big Meadow: W Maude Billingsley, Urie Lee Bowles, Jewell Deweese, Verlon A Forrest, John W Gooden, Leo E Gooden, Amy Florine Greer, Joe H Jessie, Lewis Karnes, Edward B Lutterman, Flora Saltsman. Bishop Cemetery: Permelia A Bishop Bon Ayr Cemetery: Bryant Crumpton, Ora Allene Gray, Annie M Herald, Sidney S Murray, Roy Lee Walker. Bowles Cemetery #1: Mary Ellen Bowles Bowles Cemetery #3: Henry Bowles, Lavada Bowles, Charlie M Nichols, T D Nichols, Victor L Nichols, Walter Page, Bruce Orville Warad Bowles Cemetery #4: Dianna Brown Bowles, George Pochard Bradshaw-Smith Cemtery: Osha Bradshaw Houchens Britt Cemetery #3. Malinda Britt Buckley Cemetery: Charles H Harvey, Sarah Buckley Harvey Camp Ground Cemetery. Woodrow Coats, Jesse C Doyle, Lithia Ellen Gossett, Mossie L Hart, Nanie J Hunter, Arthur W Martin, Josie F Martin, Annie W Toohey Caney Fork Cemetery: James Samuel Bailey, Nancy Tom Bertram, Kenneth Edward Dillard, Ann Elliott, James B Elliott, Luther L Elliott, George B(ryant) Elmore, Henry S Francs, Crit Harrison, Roy Houchens, Willie F Houchens, Josh Martin, Ader McClard, Joe Chris McGuire, Wallace Moore McGuire, Nannie Bell Nabors, Vivian Nabors, John H Robertson, Zelna Siddens, Ollie W. Thomas, Mary Susan Thomerson, Jesse B(ryant) Wheeler, Ora H Wood. Cave City Cemetery: Earl T Amos, Eloise M Amos, John H Bagby, William C Barnes, Mary F Borden, Dallas E Boyd, Margaret D Brewington, James H Bybee, Ruth M Campbell, Leonard Clines, Charle E Cooper, Lennie V "Perk" Cox, Christine S Farris Curd, Ora E Doyle, Elmer Estes, Balus Fishback, Louisa J Fishback, Gertrude C Fisher, Grace Ford, Robert Lee Franklin, Mary L Gentry, Grover Gonterman, John William Goodhue, Luther Grider, William Ed Harvey, Roy Hatcher, Vivian E Hatcher, Charles R 'Rick" Higason, Ethel Gerald Hogan, Willie Luther Hogan, Tony Lee Huffman, W(ashington) Huggins, Rev Ray Hughes, Cora Lee Kinser, Ray H Leonard, Mable Long, Hascal B Lyons, Andrew Lee Marcum, Drew J Martin, Lera D McCoy, Sherd Melton, Esther Miller, Hubert P Monroe, Clara Farris Myers, Robert E Parker, Maggie J Peden, Linda Gale Poynter, Marvis E Preston, Raymond W Pulley, Elizabeth Renfro, Moss E Renick, Chester G Rennick, Harold Hampton Reynolds, Henry C(lay) Reynolds, Maude C Reynolds, Mayme Brady Reynolds, Roy D Reynolds, Ruth Isenberg Hatcher Savage, Fannie Davis Shaw, Leora Shaw, David Perry Shofner, Connier H Short, Floyd "Barney" Short, Cora E Simmons, Ray Skaggs, Pearlie M Smith, Radford Smith, Joseph "Pat" Steen, Nick C Stull, Henry Bernice Swann, Belinda Terry, Bertha T Turner, Mary A Whitehouse, Elbert A Wilson, Margaret Smith Wilson, William Lawrence Woods, Lucille A Wyatt, Edwina C Young. Cedar Grove Cemetery: Ollie C Barrick, C D Basil, Mary M Basil, Clifton Beals, Robert Frank Carter, Mary W Fisher, J S Francis, Margaret A Francis, Tom C "Pete" Jackson, Calvin Davis Kinslow, Loren E Leboeuf, Robert E Munday, Veachel Allen 'Dud" Renfro, Wendell Lee Renfro, Zona Renfro, Bessie B Spann, Goldie Spillman, Mary Wilma Thomas, Myrtie Frances Thomas. Chambers Cemetery (Tige): H E Chambers, Hassell Wheelock. Chapman Cemetery: Virginia L Bishop, Judge J Jackman Church Cemetery: Maggie Church Crenshaw Cemetery: Nancy Crenshaw Allen, Emma Alexander Crenshaw, Henry Thompson Crenshaw, Susan Frances Saunders Franklin. to be continued. SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Session for 28 Apr 1801 with John HALL, John GARNETT & Wm NEVELL present. John MURPHEY, foreman, and the following jurists sworn in: John COLE, John PHELPS, William BUSH, Frederick MOSS, Frances KING, Wm JENKINS, James WILLIAMSON, Robt STOCKTON, James NEVILL, William WILSON, Elisha D__, James BRADSBERRY, John ANDERSON, Absalem JOHNSTON, James FORBIS, Danl HENDRICKS, John BLACK, John FRANKLIN Sr, John SMITH. Retired to make decisions. John L JONES's deposition to be taken. On motion of Saml ROUNDTDREE of one part; Thomas POLLOK, John MATTHEWS, Joshua? LOCK, S___ LEE, Peter GRINSTEAD, Wm DOOGAN, Joshua L___, Berry JACKSON, Stephen PERKINS and Thos BERTRAM of the other part. Controversy exists to the present day between the said parties. This controversy forwarded to Simeon BUFORD, Richd WAGNON, Wm BLAKEY, Abel HENNON, Thos SHEARLEY Sr, Edward YOUNG, Wm BUCKNER, Jonathan COWHERD, John CHANDLER, John ALLEN, John W___ & Thomas MARSHALL or 2/3rd of them to make the award between the parties (they referees). To meet 1st Friday in June next at the Elk Creek Meeting House in Barren Co. If not enough there to meet, rescheduled. On motion of George Henry ROUNDTREE of the one part & Thos PATTON, John MATTHEWS, Joshua LEE, Sampson/Thompson LEE, Potter GREENSTREET, Wm DOOGAN, Joshua LAWSON, Berry LAWSON, Stephen PERKINS, Thos BAKER of the other part - same order. Mentions John ROZIER & Co vs Thos CLARK. Grand Jury returned with the following verdicts. John MAYFIELD Sr for a breach of the peace against William BUFORD. Same vs Benja GASSAWAY same charge against John BUFORD. Same vs George MAYFIELD for same against William BUFORD. Same vs John MAYFIELD Sr against GASSAWAY & George MAYFIELD for a riot - committed at the house of BUFORD. Same vs Simeon BUFORD for profanity (swearing one oath). Same vs George W FLETCHER for same. Commonwealth vs Simeon BUFORD charged 5 lbs which the Sheriff is to receive. Wm SKAGGS vs John CROW, continued. John YATES vs George SCOTT, continued. Robt HILL vs Michael & Henry KIRKHAM, special bail. Commonwealth vs Adam BLAKEMAN - discharged debt. Same vs Isaac CASEY, special bail. Commonwealth vs Stephen BARNETT & Robt DENNISON, special bail. Court adjourned until next day. 29 Apr: Commonwealth vs Mary ROUNDTREE, 3 cases dismissed. Same vs Samuel ROUNDTREE, dismissed. Same vs William LASWELL, dismissed. Same vs Jacob CLARK, dismissed. Same vs Reuben CLARK, dismissed. Same vs William LASWELL, Jacob CLARK & Reuben CLARK, dismissed. MOORE vs CRUMP, Henry RENNICK, special bail. to be continued next week. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I came across an Elizabeth Parrish in the archives ... http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/S/SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY+1999+34795555425+F PARRISH, Elizabeth, 47, married, d/o J & E GARMON, 13 Nov 1858. Does anyone know where this Elizabeth Parrish is buried? Is her husband buried there also? Rachel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Cane Ridge Meeting House is also maintained and still actively used by the Disciples of Christ (The Christian Church). Charles __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Cane Ridge is and was 6 miles east of Paris in Bourbon County, Ky. There is a Ky Historical Marker at the site. I am sure music traditions travelled west to KS from KY and MO, just ast they travelled west to KY from VA and, prior to that, Ireland, Scotland, etc. Gerald

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Cane Ridge is located in Bourbon County, Kentucky near Paris. The ridge was named by Daniel Boone when he went through the area, and noticed a form of bamboo growing in the area. >Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:34:59 -0600 >To: <south-central-kentucky@rootsweb.com> >From: Dan Page <depage@ipa.net> >Subject: Fwd: Music > >Found this: > >"In the 1830s, a Great Awakening of fervent Christianity began, >leading to popular spiritual song traditions. During this period, >the country was undergoing a religious revival that was centered on >itinerant preachers called circuit riders, and outdoor worship >gatherings (camp meetings) where hymns (camp songs) were sung. >Earlier in the century, the first camp meeting was held in July 1800 >in Logan County, Kentucky. In 1801, a meeting in Cane Ridge, >Kentucky lasted for six days and attracted ten to twenty thousand people " > >I wonder where Cane Ridge is or was... > > > >>Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:24:55 -0600 >>To: <south-central-kentucky@rootsweb.com> >>From: Dan Page <depage@ipa.net> >>Subject: Music >> >>This will probably sound a bit goofy, but it's something I've often >>wondered about: >> >>I have many relatives and ancestors who migrated from VA and the >>Carolinas to SCKY. Later their children including my gggrandpa >>migrated from there to MO. I have long been aware of this family >>history, and many details. However, one detail I'm curious about >>is how music may have played a role in their lives. By the time >>they arrived in KS from MO, their music was a strong >>tradition. But how about earlier, in say the 1830-1860 >>period? e.g. Every time I've heard Stephen Foster's "My Old >>Kentucky Home," I've wondered how many were aware of that song back >>then. He died at the end of the Civil War. >> >>When I was a little boy growing up in KS, us kids would go to >>dances in Clay Co. It seemed like every older male in the family >>could play an instrument, a fiddle, some sort of harp, etc. and >>seemed to know a lot of old music. That was in the 1930's. I >>wonder where it started, and whether it carried down from MO and KY??

Cane Ridge is in Paris, Bourbon Co KY. Sandi

Found this: "In the 1830s, a Great Awakening of fervent Christianity began, leading to popular spiritual song traditions. During this period, the country was undergoing a religious revival that was centered on itinerant preachers called circuit riders, and outdoor worship gatherings (camp meetings) where hymns (camp songs) were sung. Earlier in the century, the first camp meeting was held in July 1800 in Logan County, Kentucky. In 1801, a meeting in Cane Ridge, Kentucky lasted for six days and attracted ten to twenty thousand people " I wonder where Cane Ridge is or was... >Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:24:55 -0600 >To: <south-central-kentucky@rootsweb.com> >From: Dan Page <depage@ipa.net> >Subject: Music > >This will probably sound a bit goofy, but it's something I've often >wondered about: > >I have many relatives and ancestors who migrated from VA and the >Carolinas to SCKY. Later their children including my gggrandpa >migrated from there to MO. I have long been aware of this family >history, and many details. However, one detail I'm curious about is >how music may have played a role in their lives. By the time they >arrived in KS from MO, their music was a strong tradition. But how >about earlier, in say the 1830-1860 period? e.g. Every time I've >heard Stephen Foster's "My Old Kentucky Home," I've wondered how >many were aware of that song back then. He died at the end of the Civil War. > >When I was a little boy growing up in KS, us kids would go to dances >in Clay Co. It seemed like every older male in the family could >play an instrument, a fiddle, some sort of harp, etc. and seemed to >know a lot of old music. That was in the 1930's. I wonder where it >started, and whether it carried down from MO and KY??

TABBS, Mary F, 3 yrs & 8 months old, born Larue Co KY, d/o Jackson & Martha, northside, typhoid, 10 Oct 1854. TANNER, Quintilla, 4 mos, d/o John & Nancy J, croup, 10 Feb 1855. TANNER, Quintilla Harriet, 3 mos, 13 days, d/o John S & Nancy J, southside, 10 Feb 1854. Note: Likely same child, sometimes names were acidentally entered on 2 years. TATE, Nancy E, 19, married, d/o Casey BELL & M A WARE (Green-Halifax Co VA), 11 June 1877. TATE, Nance E, 5 weeks, d/o John R & Nancy E (IN-Hart), whooping cough, 13 June 1877. TAYLOR: Abraham J, 64, md, born Mercer Co, s/o George W & Sarah (VA-VA), rheumatism of heart, 8 Dec 1861. Ada Q?, 8 yrs, 11 mos, northside, born Stokes Co NC, d/o Asa & Polly (Guilford-Stokes), dyptheria, 8 Dec 1861. Andrew, 63, md, born Pulaski Co, s/o Benjamin & Priscilla, consumption, 28 Mar 1856. Asberry Jefferson, 3, s/o Oliver & Louisa, flux & fever, 22 July 1852. Fannie J, 5, d/o Flavious J & Fanny J (KY-KY), asthma, 14 July 1876. Henry Twyman, 1 yr, 1 mo, 24 days, s/o Oliver G & Louisa, southside, whooping cough, 4 Aug 1854. J L, 1, male, s/o J W & Elizabeth (KY-KY), scrofula, 4 Sept 1882. James F, 6 yrs, 11 mos, 15 days, southside, s/o O Z & Frances (Hart-Barren), quinsey, 16 Dec 1861. John E, 22 yrs, 10 mos, single, northside, born Stokes Co NC, s/o Asa & Polly (Guiliford-NC), measles, 20 Dec 1861. Lilly Ann, 28, single, d/o Anderson & Susan, consumpton, 24 Aug 1853. Mahala, 3 mos, d/o Benjamin & Mary M, northside, pipes (windpipe?), 15 Aug 1858. Marshall, 18, born Edmonson Co KY, s/o Joseph & Rebecca, congestive fever, 20 Dec 1852 N M, 61 yrs, 11 mos, 16 days, male, md, born Carolina [sic], southside, s/o John & Susan, (Carolina-Carolina), 26 Nov 1861. No First, 1 mo, female, d/o Larkin & Mary (Hart-Logan), 13 July 1876. Ransom, 28 yrs, 7 os, widower, born Edmonson Co, s/o Joseph & Rebecca, southside, consumption, 30 Apr 1854. Susan H, 73, widow, d/o William & Susan Smith, 12 Aug 1875. W J, 75, male, md, born KY, s/o Sam & Mitchell (last name?) (KY-KY), spinal trouble, Mar 1904. TENNISON: J W, 67, male, widower, 24 Apr 1907. Mary M, 38 yrs, 10 mos, md, s/o James & Martha ANDERSON, northside, dropsy, 4 Apr 1857 Milly R, 6 yrs, 6 mos, d/o Joseph & Mary, northside, croup, 3 Aug 1858. THARP: Agnes R, 1, d/o Turner R & Sarah E (KY-KY), 2 July 1874. Arabel, 6, d/o William B & Nancy (KY-KY), brain fever, 1 Aug 1876. Charlotte, 54, md, born Charleston SC, d/o John & Elizabeth SELF, northside, disease of uterus, 30 July 1859. Eliza, 26, md, d/o J B & Perlina JAGGERS (Hart-Warren), 20 July 1875 Ellender, 32, md, born Hardin Co, d/o Andrew & Elizabeth LONG, cholera, 20 July 1852. John G, 7 mos, 4 days, northside, s/o Silas & Rachel (Hart-IN), brain inflammation, 20 July 1861. Mary, 12, born & resided Munfordville, d/o John & Harriett (Hart-Grayson), burned, 6 May 1876. Rachel, 49, widow, born TN, d/o Isaac McDANIEL, consumption, June 1852. Sarah E, 26, md, d/o John B & Perline JAGGERS (Hart-Warren), consumption, 26 July 1875. Sarah E, 11 mos, born Grayson Co, d/o John W & Cynthia (Hart-Barren), 11 May 1875. Wilborn T, 1 yr, 11 mos, s/o James & Sarah (Hart-TN), fall against rock, 15 Dec 1875. to be continued next week with THOMAS. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

This will probably sound a bit goofy, but it's something I've often wondered about: I have many relatives and ancestors who migrated from VA and the Carolinas to SCKY. Later their children including my gggrandpa migrated from there to MO. I have long been aware of this family history, and many details. However, one detail I'm curious about is how music may have played a role in their lives. By the time they arrived in KS from MO, their music was a strong tradition. But how about earlier, in say the 1830-1860 period? e.g. Every time I've heard Stephen Foster's "My Old Kentucky Home," I've wondered how many were aware of that song back then. He died at the end of the Civil War. When I was a little boy growing up in KS, us kids would go to dances in Clay Co. It seemed like every older male in the family could play an instrument, a fiddle, some sort of harp, etc. and seemed to know a lot of old music. That was in the 1930's. I wonder where it started, and whether it carried down from MO and KY??

If your male ancestor played football for the Glasgow Scotties in 1927, this I think will be interesting. I have a list of the players and their official "nicknames" on the team. Players included: Loren 'Slick" NELSON Hershell "Fanny" AUSTIN Harold "Old Devil" HARPST Bill "Hoot" VAUGHAN (mascot) Mitchell "Pap" TAYLOR John Uri "Nellie" NELSON Francis "Sunshine" JACKSON Bernard "Peck" JONES Oren "Dink" NELSON Arthur "Mudeyes" BROOKS Garland "Butter" REYNOLDS William "Big Bill" DICKINSON Paul "Bear" TUCKER Ralph "Socker" HAMMER Johnny JONES Frank McGLOCKLIN Charles "Feets" GOODMAN Raymond D RIDLEY (head coach) James Freeman TANNER (assistant coach) Arthur MATTHEWS Billy PEDIGO Lawrence "Dusty" MILLER Edmund "Hezzie" SMITH Billy Sam TERRY Paul "Fox" HOLMAN Henry Clay "Buzz" BARTON D. Crawford LYNN (assistant coach) Robert "Nuts" VAUGHAN I guess a few "escaped" without nicknames! Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/