We're getting to the end of the death records shown on the vital statistics for Hart Co. If you missed any of them, you can check the archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search. Space down a tad (past the ancestry.com search box) and enter the name for which you're searching and any post made mentioning that name will show up with a link to the post. Remember that only certain years were recorded 1852-1910 but we're thankkful for the ones that were! Information provided on the vital statistics varied from year to year; northside/southside indicated which side of the Green River they lived; locations in parenthisis after parents names indicate their state of birth. VAUGHN: Lotty, mulatto, 30, married, born Green Co, d/o Charles M & Hannah WOOLDRIDGE (KY_VA), dropsy, 15 Sept 1876. Mary, 57 yrs, 11 mos, 4 days old, widow, born SC, d/o Hance & Nancy HARPER, southside, palsy & old age, 27 Jan 1854. Polina Jane, 25 yrs, 9 mos, 9 days old, single, d/o William & Mary, southside, consumption,, 29 June 1857. Slave James, 2 yrs, 4 mos, 12 days, most liked owned by William VAUGHAN, southside, stomach disease, 15 June 1857. VICTOR, John, 77, married, born Lafayette PA, s/o John & Mary (MD-MD), consumption, 20 Nov 1876. VICTOR, Pearl, 9 mos, d/o R M & V M (KY-KY), flux, 1 July 1876. VOSS, Marie L, 12, d/o William H & Margaret? M (Hart-Hart), heart trouble, 25 Dec 1892. WADDLE: Bell, 1 wk old, d/o Robert D & Martha (Hart-Hart), croup, 29 June 1875. Elizabeth, 26, single, d/o David & Savah, northside, typhoid, 16 Feb 1854. Elza, 2 mos, male, s/o David L & Elizabeth (Hart-Hart), head dropsy, 15 Aug 1875. No First Name, 1 1/2 mos, female, born Hancock Co KY, d/o John B & Martha, premature, 7 Mar 1857. Susan? Ann, no age shown, d/o G D Waddle (Hart-Harat), 24 Apr 1904. WADE, Henry W, 21 yrs, 1 mo, 13 days, married, cabinet maker, born Green Co KY, s/o Stephen & Catharine, northside, "died at GOOCH's Mill in Green Co. His widow removed to her mothers in this county soon after his death & I thought I ought to record it." 14 June 1858. WAGONER, Charles King, 4 mos, 8 days, s/o J C & Nancy L, southside, typhoid, 16 Mar 1856. WAGENER, No first, 15 days, female, d/o R H, northside, flux. Might have been slave since no mother indicated but was not shown as Black. 15 Aug 1856. WAGONER, Slave Peter A, 14, owned by John Wagoner, northside, flux, 1 Aug 1856 WAGENER, Slave Samuel, 33 yrs, 7 mos, northside, owned by A J WAGENER, congestive fever, 7 Jan 1861. WALDECK, Annie, 5 mos, d/o H J & SarahA, northside, 6 Mar 1858. WALDECK, John, 60, married, born VA, s/o Henry & Mary (Germany-VA), consumption, 18 Mar 1874. To be continued next week with WALSH. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

You might want to check out this site: Thanks to Lantos, all the old slave records, etc will be preserved and hopefully be available in digital format. Sandi http://www.africanaheritage.com/Lantos_Preservation_Act.asp SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

BAKER, John, VA S30843. Appeared in Cumberland Co 13 Aug 1832. Enlisted under Capt BOWLIN and part of the time under Capt. ROBERTSON. At first call of the militia from Chesterfield Co VA; discharged at Sherby Hundred on James River. Next tour served under Capt Edward MOSEBY and served 2-3 months. 3rd tour under Capt MOSEBY. Enemy fleet was in the river & in possession of HOOD's Garrison. 4th tour: Stationed at Oldfield a considerable time. 5th tour: taken from Richmond under command of Lt WHITE and "I being an order sergeant stationed at Maid River, the enemy being near us." 6th tour: called to Little York., doesn't recollect how long they were there. 7th tour: in Southhampton Crossing at Westover on James River. 8th tour: to Cabin Point below Petersburg. 9th tour: Down the James River and retreated about 70 miles with the British under us; got to Petersburg and there had an engagement. Commanders were Barron STEUBEN, Gen'l MUHLENBERG, Col FORTNER, in 1781. Lived in Chesterfield Co during the Rev. War, moved to KY over 20 yrs ago and settled in Cumberland Co. Was born in Hanover Co VA 1750, now lives in Cumberland Co. Age is recorded in the Bible of his father in Chesterfield, long since deceased. In one other tour under command of Gen MONROE in the lower part of VA. Affadavits of James BAKER & Vachel DENHAM, clergymen, both of Cumberland Co. Soldier moved to KY in 1810. States that Benjamin BURNETT, James BAKER, Joseph ALEXANDER, Joel OWSLEY, William CHEATHAM, John PARRISH and others in his neighborhood can testify on his behalf. William BAKER made testimony in 1833 and stated he knew BAKER and that he had served as stated. Daniel TRABUE of Adair Co states he had known the soldier for over 60 yrs; was a major to him in VA in 1781 (statement made in 1832). Stated that the British Army came to Richmond; I had just returned from the western army to Chesterfield. Militia was called on to oppose said enemy. Shortly after the militia was embodied saw Baker in camp on duty and shortly aftr this time a part of the militia was sent down on the south side of the James River on a 3-month tour of duty. I was one of the men who went and Baker was orderly sergeant. We were in Capt MASTER's company under Gen MUHLENBERG. I was in several tours that year and saw Baker in several towns. Records show that his children received in arrears of pension but did not give their names. Stated that 2 of the 3 children of Baker were on the pension rolls of the KY agency at the rate of $120 per annum; had been paid at this department from 4 Mar 1838 to 4 Sept 1838, the day of his death. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Chuck Despain wrote me and gave me permission to forward his request to the list. He is not on either of the lists, so if you would like to contact him, please write him privately. I hope you can hellp him. Sandi cdespain@cwnet.com Hi Sandi, I have been studying the DeSpain name for about 10 years. Do to new information I am trying to find out when James DeSpain (Spain) lived in Cumberland or Monroe Co, KY. James married Margaret Matthews 6 Sep 1807 in Cumberland Co, KY. It is known that this James is in the 1811 Green Co,KY tax list. However it has been learned that there is another James DeSpain in Green County in the 1810s and the two can not be separated. This James Despain (Listed as James Spain.) is in the 1820 Monroe Co, KY census living among his in-laws. By the 1830 census he is in the Shelby Co, TN listed as J. D. Spain. I would like to know if he can be found in Cumberland or Monroe County records for any of the years between 1811 and 1830. Chuck Despain

As I think I've told you, all the old Circuit Court cases that were housed here at the clerk's office have been sent to Frankfort for storage. They will eventually be available there but it will require a trip to Frankfort to the Dept of Archives and Libraries to see them. The late dear Gladys Benedict Wilson gave me hundreds and hundreds of cases that she had transcribed from the oldest of the Circuit Court cases and over the years I have been trying to get them all typed up and published. I have just finished Volume 9 of the series, leaving likely one more book to come. This volume has 32 cases, ranging from 1809 to 1877 (only 3 cases after 1858) and includes land disputes, slave settlements, murder, patent disputes, a problem with a raffle for a watch, a lunacy hearing, fights over horses, bad bookkeeping at a mercantile and many other cases - including a gal who couldn't handle her late husband's children, her children and disobedient slaves. Among the cases are: John Forbis vs Clement Lee; Wm Jewell vs John Crozier; Jesse Thomas vs Benjamin Eaves, Jesse Rowland & Hudson Martin vs Leonard Garmon, Thomas Staton vs Zacharah Emerson, Richard Mitchell vs James Jeffries, David Richardson vs Elizabeth M Richardson, Obadiah Wade vs William B Wade & William Holder, Lewis Smith vs Harlow & Kimble, J B Jamison vs Jno Garrison, Jose Philpot vs John Gum, Polly Threlkill vs Edmunds, Solon Thacker, Lorenzo D Peck for keeping the peace, F F Holder vs A Holder, Malachai Francis (lunacy), John Francis vs Francis, Martin, Bridges & Beam, Joseph Warder vs Warder & Evans, James Whitlow (murder), Leonard Edlin vs James Morgan Heirs, Jefferson Fulcher vs James Gillock, Frances Wheeler vs Rigdons, Jeff Stone vs Rufus McPherson, John Dickerson vs Valentine Dickerson, John McDaniel vs John C Hall, Sebert Wilson vs Glovesr, Ritter, Wooten & Goodal, and M Delph vs Presley Self and the Monroe heirs. These cases are interesting not only in testimonies, but all the known heirs (and their locations) are usually shown. If you would like to see the index of this book, I again will send it to you via a Word document if you will ask - write me privately, I cannot send it on the list as rootsweb strips off attachments to prevent viruses from getting through. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

These are taken from "The Way It Was", Tompkinsville News. They will be in random order. Dec 1945: Tompkinsville Chamber of Commerce sponsoring Christmas lighting contest; prizes offered. 14 delegates elected by AAA participants 12/7/45. Committee chosen included: Ivan F PEDIGO (chairman), Philip BOWLES (vice-chairman), L L HIGH (regular member)k Oscar BRYANT (1st alternate), Spencer CARTER (2nd alternate). Re-elected were Doc MILLER (chief clerk & treasurer), Evelyn CARTER (secretary). Other delegates elected included L H LANDRUM, Clyde CROPPER, A B COPASS, R A TURNER, Ernest BUSHONG, Ray BYBEE, Radford GETTINGS, Cloyd WILLIAMS, Denton MURPHY and Carl BAXTER. Deaths reported in Dec 1945 included: Mrs J D (Angie SMITH) BOWMAN, 69 and Isaac Decatur GENTRY, 76, Charles TAYLOR (about 60) of Lafayette IN and Ellen (EVANS) MYERS, of Amarillo TX. July 1945: Pvt Ovile WILLIAMS was wounded near Manilla 10 May and died in the hospital the following day. He was almost 19 yrs old, youngest son of M/M Allen V WILLIAMS of Route 2 Summer Shade; he lived in T'ville. A former Monroe Co, S/Sgt Warren Franklin TOOLEY, drowned at Okinawa on 28 June. Cleaning up Old Mulkey planned and for setting a monument in memory of Rev. W.E. THOMAS during a public meeting at the courthouse on 24 July. The site has been neglected since the death of Thomas and "Uncle Sam" CHISM. The Ky Park Commission said that Old Mulkey was to be abandoned unless local people showed more interest. A committee was appointed made up of L P HAGAN, N R MAXEY, Oscar BRYANT, Abe P CARTER & Price KIRKPATRICK. 12 candidates to be on Nov ballot in Monroe Co - James C CARTER Jr for Circuit Judge, L R RUSH for clerk of the Circuit Court, W C FARMER for State Senator, Lawrence WELLS for State rep, Paul CARTER for county attorney, Fred EVANS for judge of the county court, D O HAGAN for coroner, Clarence FORD, Earl THOMPSON & J G CARTER for constables - all Republicans and Democrats John BEAM and J B HOWARD, justices of the peace in magisterial districts 6 & 7. No competition in these offices. Frank F HAMMER and Fred T SCOTT elected for 3-yr terms on the board of the Southern States Cooperative served by Harley T WHITE. Other board members included Ronald BUSHONG & S B BAXTER (2 yr terms), Earnest BUSHON (1-yr term). Farm Home Advisory Board appointments were Mrs. Earl WALDEN & Mrs Denton MURPHY (3 yr), Mrs Ernest TEETERS & Mrs. Price KIRKPATRICT (2-yr) and Mrs Sam ROSS and Mrs Jack HAYES (1-yr). Deaths reported in July 1945: Lorenzo Dowell SPEAR, 68 of Smiths Grove, Ennis P HARRIS, 75 of Bowling Green and Mrs H D BUSH of Roswell NM. Also shown are deaths from July 1985: (most articles are 50 yrs ago and then 25 yrs ago). Dora (RICHARDSON) MARTIN, 91 and Kenny "Sang Digger" DECKARD, 38 of T'ville. Victoria Ethel (SHAW) KEY, 91 and Ruly (BROOKS) DENHAM, 69 of Rt 1, Gamaliel. Betty (BROWN) CREEK, 89, Rt 1 Fountain Run. Flroa JONES, 87, Rt 2 Fountain Run. Viola (MILLER) WOOD, 77, Glasgow. Vera (WHEET) TURNER HUSKISSON, 82, Lucas. Paul Arnold GOAD, 56, Scottsville. Earl Franklin BOTTS, 67, Lexington; Virgie (BUTRUM) PAYNE, 82, Louisville. George Clyde "Bully" WHITE, 75, Rt 1 Moss TN. Kinley BURTON, 61 (auto accident) and Bailey V PAGE, 76, Rt 1 Celina TN. Willette (TINSLEY) DUBRE, 83, Rt 3, Celina. Walter Franklin WILLIAMSON, 69, Rt 2 Celina, James Carson MONDAY, 75, John Mack CHERRY, 54; Kathleen SIMS, 50 and Rentford Mack CHERRY, 59 all of Indianapolis and Ida Bell (RHOTON) McPHERSON, 86, Dexter Michigan. To be continued next week. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I am trying to locate as many of the Old Finney School group pictures as possible. I attended this school from about 1953/1954 - 1957 at which time it was closed and we were then were bussed to Red Cross Elementary for grades 1-6 and Park City for the 7th grade through high school. I had six older brothers who also attended Finney School and would love to hear from anyone who may have knowledge of/or how I might obtain copies of same. I am guessing the oldest dates would be abt.1931 through about abt.1946. I have two brothers who are deceased, James Richard Nuckols b.2 Oct.,1927 and Kelly Mitchell Nuckols b.12 Apr.,1931. We were the only NUCKOLS family to ever live in Finney as far as I know. I would really appreciate anything you would like to share about the school. Thank you in advance, Judy Nuckols Lowe Barren Co KY

Anne, This may not be useful, but in the interests of full disclosure wanted to add: Last year, I had occasion to read through 38 years (1845-1883) of quarterly conference minutes of the Tompkinsville Circuit of the Methodist Episcopal Church, South, for some research I was doing. These conference meetings were attended mostly by the clergy and lay officers of the Circuit, and these were the names most likely to be listed. I don't recall ever seeing William Howard's name mentioned. This presents several possibilities: 1. Howard could have been a Methodist, but not an elder or preacher or steward. 2. He could have been performing marriages as a JP rather than as a clergyman. 3. He could have been a Methodist clergyman, but have left the M.E. Church, South at the time of the 1845/46 split over slavery. The William Howard who freed his slaves in 1846 in Monroe County might fit this scenario. 4. He may not have been a Methodist at all, but a Baptist or Church of Christ (Campbellite) clergyman instead. I hope you'll share with us your findings, if you do eventually turn-up the truth about William Howard! best wishes, Charles R. Arterburn ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news

June 23, 1801, present: John HALL, John GARNETT & Wm NEVILL. Robt STOCKTON, foreman, jury of: Alexander DAVIDSON, Wm FIELDING, Hezekiah DAVIDSON, John ALLAN, Moses COX, Elisha ALLEN, Pageman COLEMAN, Wm JENKINS Sr, Wm MACKY, Thomas KIR___, ___ SCOTT, Francis LATTEMORE, Sephen BENNIT, John COLE, John BOYD, Wm RIGHT [WRIGHT], & Joseph BATES. Withdrew to consider cases. John EMERSON being licensed to preach took necssary oaths and was admitted. William SKAGGS to pay David VANCE for 1 day as witness and traveling 50 miles as witness for him vs CROW. Grand Jury returned and presented an indictment vs John MAYFIELD Sr - a true bill. Same vs George MAYFIELD, same for Benjamin GASSAWAY, same vs John MAYFIELD Sr, George MAYFIELD & Benjamin GASSAWAY (appears to be two cases). Discharged. Deposition of Charles ALFRED to be taken. Wm WELSH vs Martin FRANKLIN - dismissed. William WILSON vs Johnson KING and John GOODMAN, special bail taken. Same for John LEWIS vs John CHISM Jr. On motion of William JENKINS, security for Timothy MERSHON Sr. Adjourned until next day. Met next day, same justices. Timothy MERSHON vs James WILLIAMSON, Pltff being solemnly called didn't come; on motion of the defendant, ordered that the Pltff be non-suited & to pay the Deft his cost. Jonas GRIFFY vs Joseph LOCK, continued for award. Commonwealth vs Benjamin GASSAWAY, indictment dismised. Same vs George MAYFIELD, dismissed. Same vs John MAYFIELD Sr, dismissed. Alexandser SLOAN and wife vs Samuel ROUNDTREE, judgement set aside, not guilty, rules of limitations. Jury seated: Presley SANDERS, John MOSS, Tho MIDDLETON, John BEDFDORD, Robert HOLMAN, Wm SHAW, John FRANKLIN Jr, John GOODMAN, James RENICK, David DIXON, John SANDERS, Jas MATTHEWS. John CROW to pay David DIXON 1 day attendance as witness vs Wm SKAGGS. Trustees of Glasgow vs Wm STRINGFIELD, dismissed. Dan'l BROWN etal vs George SCOTT. Jury: Presley SANDERS, John MOSS, Tho MIDDLETON, John BUFORD, ___ HINEMAN, Jas SHAW, John FRANKLIN Jr, James RENICK, David DIXON, John SANDERS, ___ MATTHEWS. Judgment for pltff. ___ to pay Mary DUGENS? for 1 day attendance and traveling 60 miles in case vs Sam'L ROUNDTREE & wife. Samuel ROUNDTDREE to pay Joseph BATES same vs SLOAN and wife. Commonwealth to pay Elijah ROGERS for 2 days as witness against John MAYFIELD Jr. Same to pay William BUFORD. Trustees of Glasgow vs James BLACK & HENRY MILLER, RICHD GARNETT - special bail. Dismissed until next day. To be continued next week. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I really appreciate everyone's help on this. Thank you very much. I think I have found some good leads. Ann > >

Ann, Kathy and list- I believe that William and Christopher Howard are very likely sons of Obediah Howard and Priscilla Avery Breed who are reported by other researchers to have been married about 1758 in Orange County, North Carolina. William was born March 4, 1772 and Christopher in 1774. Their older sister, Nancy, said to have been born October 16, 1759, was married to the Rev. Jonathan Mulkey. Nancy and Jonathan were the parents of the Revs. John and Phillip Mulkey who were born while in Fair Forest, South Carolina where their grandfather Phillip Mulkey had established an early Baptist Church. They are the Mulkeys who established early churches in Kentucky and central Tennessee. John is associated with the historic Mulkey Meeting House now in Tompkinsville, Monroe County, Kentucky and Phillip established the Brimstone Church just across the border in Jackson County, Tennessee. There is a great deal of information on the web about the Mulkeys and the Restoration Movement in North Caroli! na, Sou th Carolina, Kentucky and Tennessee. Here is one summary of early family information: In the fall of 1759 Stephen Howard (son of Joseph, Onslow)(who was son of John Howard, Esq., Blue Creek Onslow Co. N.C.)...and his family left Orange County, N.C. with a traveling Baptist missionary group under leadership of Shubal Stearns and Phillip Mulkay, members of the Deep River and Sandy Creek congregations and went in South Carolina, stopping first at Little River, where they formed a church. In 1762 several families under the leadership of Philip Mulkey, their minister, moved again and settled in Craven County, S.C. on branches of Fairforest Creek and Tyger River, in present "Union Co." S.C. where they established a church, and entered claims for land. According to church histories, these heads of families were: Stephen Howard and Wife Obadiah Howard and wife (son or nephew of above Stephen) (wife Priscilla Breed) Philip Mulkey and wife (Anna Ellis, dau. of Jeremiah Ellis of Lunenburg Co., Va.) Joseph Breed and wife (Priscilla Avery, dau. of Christopher Avery of Groten, Conn. Jos, Breed of Stonington, Conn. and Groten, Conn. Benjamin Gist and Wife (Mary Jarrett, dau. of Thomas Jarrett of Lunenberg Co. Va.) Charles Thomson Thomas Thomson Rachel Collins All these persons had lived before 1759 in Orange Co. N.C. for a few years, and their names appear on the tax lists of this county, with the exception of Obadiah Howard, who may have been too young to have entered claim for land at that time and date. The tax lists of Orange Co. N.C. in 1761 show the names of Edmund Howard, Nehemiah Howard, Nathaniel, and John Howard . Of those, Nehemiah Howard later moved to the Fairforest settlement in South Carolina and took up land near Stephen and Obadiah Howard and their neighbors. Stephen (2) Howard wrote the first will filed in present Union County, SC dated Dec. 24, 1777. Date of probate is not shown. As Union Co. SC was not organized until 1785, it can be assumed that he died in that year, as otherwise it would have been filed in Charleston, SC with other county records of the period before formation of Union County. Rev. Jonathan Mulkey moved from South Carolina to Buffalo Ridge, Tennessee where he headed a congregation for years but his sons and members of the Howard and Gist families were very early settlers in Barren/Green County, Kentucky and adjacent Jackson County, Tennessee. I hasten to point out that I am not a Howard researcher but I know a good deal about the Mulkeys and the migration of families from Camden and Pendleton Districts in South Carolina to south centrasl Kentucky and Tennessee. John Newton Morrel morcor@comcast.net

>Kathy, > Thank you for your response. I wish I knew the answers to your questions. You did not mention your Hardy Howard ever being in Barren or Monroe Counties. Researching the ministers made sense. Thank you for that suggestion. I looked on the Barren County GenWeb site under Barren County Land Grants to find the time frame of the ministers you mentioned. If William Howard was about 20 (just a presumption) in 1816 then he would be in his 40s when he married James P. CONKIN and Hannah H. DICKERSON making him a good candidate for being the brother of Harriet HOWARD. Rev. John Longdon, - I think the listing below may be the same man. Logsdon Jno 200 22 6-27-1804 Green River Rev. John Mulkey, - Mulkey John 50 P 4-21-1819 None Rev. Jacob Chism.... - Chism Jacob 50 A 1- 9-1816 Gills Creek Wiliam Howard, - Perhaps the William Howard referred to below are two different men - two different generations. Howard William 100 B 3- 8-1816 Fk Big Howard Wm 200 5 9- 1-1799 E Fk Big River Howard Christopher 150 7 11- 9-1804 E Fk Big River Rev. Philip Mulkey - Mulkey Philip 76 23 3- 7-1808 Mill Creek I found Harriet Howard when I was researching my Hannah H. DICKERSON line. Hannah was born about 1825 in Kentucky and died in 1904 in Gainesville, Ozark County, Missouri. At this point, I do not know who Hannah's parents are. When I found a marriage on the Barren County GenWeb site for a "DICKESON, James to HOWARD, not given, 30 Jan 1816," I checked Rootsweb World Connect database and found a file which indicated the "HOWARD, not given" was a Harriet HOWARD and the DICKESON (sp?), James was James DICKERSON, son of Solomon DICKERSON. Now I never take World Connect files as gospel, but I figure if the person who listed the information found that information, then so can I - if I can't then I go back to ground zero. The interesting thing about this find and what makes it plausible in my research is James Patterson CONKIN and Hannah H. DICKERSON named their first child, a daughter, HARRIET CONKIN, born 28 July, 1839 in Kentucky. This could mean that Hannah was following a normal naming pattern of naming her first daughter after her mother. Also Hannah's middle initial is H. which could stand for Harriet (her mother) or Holland the maiden name of her great grandmother, Hannah HOLLAND who was married to Surratt DICKERSON. Now if William HOWARD is the father or brother of Harriet HOWARD Dickerson (she married in 1816 so she was probably about 20 years old), it would make sense for him to marry his niece or granddaughter. Are any of you researching these families? Any help would be very much appreciated. One last tidbit on the Dickerson Family: | 18-03-1835 | Hix James | Dickerson Mary R | Howard, William | Maybe Hannah and Mary are sisters. Thanks again for any help. Ann >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:43:52 -0800 (PST) >From: Kathy Locke <kl343@verizon.net> >Subject: Re: [SCKY] William Howard >To: south-central-kentucky@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <601620.6423.qm@web84106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > >Ann, > The only listing I have regarding William Howard is pg 24 of the "The Times of Long Ago" by F. Gorin states that "Among the earliest settlers in that part of Monroe County taken off of Barren County, were......Rev. John Longdon, Rev. John Mulkey, Rev. Jacob Chism.... Wiliam Howard, Rev. Philip Mulkey..... > Hopefully you can track down the other pastors listed and eliminate their churchs from the list.... > > Also is this Howard related to Hardy Howard born abt 1801 in South Carolina...My husband's maternal ancestor??? > > Hardy Howard moved to Houston County, Ga and then to Choctaw County, Mississippi bef 1850..... > Choctaw County, MS Deed Book G, Page 304-305 Hardy Howard to Michael Howard was dated September 12,1837. District 5, Lot 37 containing 101 1/4 acres for $125.00. This was witnessed by William Howard, signed by Hardy Howard and Lake Watson's name was also on here, we assume as a witness with Nathan Busby, JP. > Deed Book H, Page 64 Hardy Howard to Michael Howard was dated April 24, 1840. >District 5, Lot 36, containing 202 1/2 acres for $150.00. This was witnessed by >Richard Howard and W. W. Howard (William Howard?). > > PS. 1850 Choctaw, MS, Census, 13th Subdivision, p. 82, L. 32, > HOWARD, Hardy was 49, b. SC; >Emily was 47, b. SC >Sarah was 17, b. SC; >Henry was 19, b. GA, >Tempy was 9, b. GA, >Sarah was 2, b. MS. > > >

I read this on another list, ADVRES and checke dit out - I like it. As you know, our names could have really have been clobbered in spelling on older records. Even the shortest names could end up with unknown variants of spellings - depending on how they wrote the name, how it was heard by others and the nationality. Then was introduced soundex to help us and I really hate it. It serves its purpose I know but as an example with the name Gorin - it brings up Green (of which there are millions) and many others that I don't need. Metaphone is another system - so so. Then there is Thesaurus at http://www.namethesaurus.com/Thesaurus/Search.aspx This is a site that I'm just starting to investigate but it looks good. When you enter a name, it will give you the Thesaurus names (which SOUND like your surname), and also shows the soundex and the metaphone. As an example again for the name Gorin - soundex comes up with 1816 possible matches (99% of which are of no use); Metaphone has 1944 possibilities - again, not much of a help - and Thesaurus has 177 names - the majority of wish would be variant spellings of Gorin or sound alikes. Some I would never have thought to search for. It also shows you what "it" thinks is the match score - or the possibility of that being an alternate spelling with the highest percentage at the top. You might enjoy trying this out. Have a great weekend; we're supposed to have a 70% chance of freezing rain tomorrow/Sunday too. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Re: [SCKY] William Howard Ann, William Howard may have been a Methodist. I don't have documentation for it, but some circumstantial evidence suggests this: 1. Howard performed marriages for some known Methodists in Monroe County. Whether he was acting as a minister of the gospel or justice of the peace, I'm not sure. (Paper form of published Monroe County marriage records by Marcella Headrick might indicate this, as would the original records.) 2. Isaac Dickerson, who lived in District #1 (Turner District) near Jeffrey and Mud Lick communities, was a licensed Local Preacher (LP) of Bethel Methodist Church, at old Pikeville--the community that later became known as Flippin--during the 1850/60s. Isaac may have been a relative of Hannah. 3. A "William Howard," who built the "Old Brick" house near Emberton, KY, on County House Road (Hwy 1366), freed his slaves in 1846, around the time that the Methodist Episcopal Church split over the slavery issue (1845)--if this was the same William Howard, as seems likely. http://kentucky.gov/kyhs/hmdb/MarkerSearch.aspx?mode=County&county=86 Hope this helps. best wishes, Charles R. Arterburn ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

Ann, The only listing I have regarding William Howard is pg 24 of the "The Times of Long Ago" by F. Gorin states that "Among the earliest settlers in that part of Monroe County taken off of Barren County, were......Rev. John Longdon, Rev. John Mulkey, Rev. Jacob Chism.... Wiliam Howard, Rev. Philip Mulkey..... Hopefully you can track down the other pastors listed and eliminate their churchs from the list.... Also is this Howard related to Hardy Howard born abt 1801 in South Carolina...My husband's maternal ancestor??? Hardy Howard moved to Houston County, Ga and then to Choctaw County, Mississippi bef 1850..... Choctaw County, MS Deed Book G, Page 304-305 Hardy Howard to Michael Howard was dated September 12,1837. District 5, Lot 37 containing 101 1/4 acres for $125.00. This was witnessed by William Howard, signed by Hardy Howard and Lake Watson's name was also on here, we assume as a witness with Nathan Busby, JP. Deed Book H, Page 64 Hardy Howard to Michael Howard was dated April 24, 1840. District 5, Lot 36, containing 202 1/2 acres for $150.00. This was witnessed by Richard Howard and W. W. Howard (William Howard?). PS. 1850 Choctaw, MS, Census, 13th Subdivision, p. 82, L. 32, HOWARD, Hardy was 49, b. SC; Emily was 47, b. SC Sarah was 17, b. SC; Henry was 19, b. GA, Tempy was 9, b. GA, Sarah was 2, b. MS. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:30:17 -0500 From: "Ann M. Small" Subject: [SCKY] William Howard To: south-central-kentucky@rootsweb.com Does any one have any information on William Howard, a minister in the 1830s in as far as I know Monroe and Barren Counties? I would like to know which church he belonged to and if he was related to Harriet Howard who married James Dickerson, I believe on 30 Jan 1816 in Barren County. He also married my ancestors | 02-08-1838 | Conkin James P | Dickerson Hannah | Howard, William | I am also looking for any information on James P Conkin and Hannah Dickerson. Thanks for any help. Ann ------------------------------ To contact the SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY list administrator, send an email to SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY mailing list, send an email to SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 17 *****************************************************

Taken from the vital statistics. TOMS: Harriett, Black, 45, single, born Adair Co, consumpmtion, Jan 1874. Matilda, 31 yrs, 11 days, married, born Casey Co, d/o John L & Sarah VANDEVER, died in Casey Co, lived southside, flux, 24 Aug 1854. Sarah Isabella, 2 yrs, 6 mos, 15 days, born Casey Co, d/o Ira & Matilda, died Casey Co, lived southside, flux, 25 Sept 1854. William Taylor, 3, s/o William W & Nancy, jaundice & bowel complaint, 23 May 1852. TOOLY, Mandy E, 27, married, d/o James & Eliza HUNTER (Barren Co-IL), consumption, 3 Nov 1875. TOSH, Gustavus C, 24, single, born Pittsylvania Co VA, s/o John & Amanda, cholera, 3 July 1852. TOWLES, Ermine, 49, widow, d/o John & Mary GADDIE (KY-KY), consumption, 24 Dec 1876. TUCKER, No First, 1 day, female, d/o Epps & Lucinda, southside, flux, 30 Aug 1856 TURNER: Cassa A, 2 mos, c/o John B & Roxey (KY-KY), diptheria, 30 June 1876. James W, 47, born Green Co KY, s/o David & Judy (KY-KY), pneumonia, 24 Feb 1876 Joannah, 6 mos, 16 days, d/o M A & Sarah, born Adair Co, southside, lung fever, 25 Aug 1859. Martha W, 19 yrs, 5 mos, 112 days, single, born Hardin Co KY, d/o G W & Mary Jane, northside, consumption, 21 May 1859. No First, 3 days, male, s/o Thomas W & Martha, northside, premature, 2 Aug 1854. Olive Frances, 19 single, d/o George W & Mary A (VA-Green Co), consumption, 13 Nov 1877. Roxey, 26, married, d/o John & Mary DYE (KY-KY), hearat disease, 30 May 1876. William B, 26, married, s/o Robert & Frances J, consumption, 15 Sept 1877. TWYMAN: Slave Fanny, 54, resided & died in Louisville KY, owned by Elizah H Twyman, purpeual fever, 15 May 1853. Slave Martha, 33, owned by Eliza H Twyman, consumption, 1 July 1853. Slave ___ [faded out], 4 days, sex not readable, resided & died in Louisville, 1853. William C, 4, s/o Mordeca & Melvina (Hardin-Hart), croup, 25 Jan 1875. UPTON, William H, 22 yrs, 6 mos, northside, s/o A J & Mary A (Hardin-Hardin), diptheria, 15 Oct 1861 VANCE: Louisa Alice, 11 mos, d/o T W & Eliza E MILLER (Hart-Green), diarhhea, 25 Sep 1877. No First, 0 age, male, s/o Alex & E R, northside, 16 Sept 1856 No First, 15 minutes, c/o Joseph M (Hart-Hart), 4 Mar 1877 Richard, 22, married, born Green Co, s/o Richard & Mary, congestive fever, 7 Sept 1852 Richard, 70 yrs, 11 mos, 26 days, married, born Green Co, s/o Wm & Frances, northside, congestive fever, 11 Nov 1858 Susan J, 25 yrs, 9 mos, 24 days, single, born Green Co, northside, d/o Richard & Mary (Green-NC), pleurisy; was deaf and dumb, 9 Nov 1861. VANFLEET, James, 61 yrs, 1 mo, 12 days, widower, born NY, northside, s/o Joshua & Elizabeth (Comstadt, unknown), 19 Mar 1861. To be cotninued next week with VAUGHN. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Does any one have any information on William Howard, a minister in the 1830s in as far as I know Monroe and Barren Counties? I would like to know which church he belonged to and if he was related to Harriet Howard who married James Dickerson, I believe on 30 Jan 1816 in Barren County. He also married my ancestors | 02-08-1838 | Conkin James P | Dickerson Hannah | Howard, William | I am also looking for any information on James P Conkin and Hannah Dickerson. Thanks for any help. Ann

A little of this 'n that... If you are are on the KYBIOGRAPHIES and/or KYRESEARCH lists, your posts from me might be delayed. They are "housed" on what is know as List3 and this server has been having some problems. It locks up somehow - a techie term I have no idea of what it means. These two lists are "read-only" lists meaning they do not take queries. With the recent changes in rootsweb, I now have to go to an administrative page and release the messages to go to all of you. Somehow List3 locks up and won't let me (and others) in to do anything. So bear with me please - I've made the posts - they're just behind locked doors right now! Secondly, thanks for all the updates on those of you who are stuck in the winter storm misery. I promise not to complain that it's 26 degrees in beautiful south central KY! Our thoughts and prayers are with you. On the KYRESEARCH list (whenever it gets unstuck!) there are some interesting tips and data coming up in the next few weeks. I'm sharing about some of the speciality mills that existed in the early days of KY and employed a lot of our ancestors, there are some strange mills of which you might not have heard. There is an eerie post on the Black Mariah, one on the first constitution of KY, another one on what was the militia in KY - what was it, what did they do, etc. If you're not on this once-a-week list you can subscribe by sending an email to KYRESEARCH-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com. Thirdly, I will be going back to Monroe Co on the Tues posts with more of the newspapers. Lastly, thanks for the input on the obituaries I'm posting on the Barren Co board. Please remember something. If it is posted on the Board, it is automatically cross-posted to the Barren Co list here. But, posts to the Barren Co list are NOT cross posted to the board. So, if you have information on something I (or anyone) has posted on the board - no one will see the information on the board if you post it just to the list. It needs to be posted to the board site. Hope I haven't confused you! If you are overwhelmed with the 10 or so obituaries I post almost daily ... let me know and I can switch you to the digest mode of the list so you will get only 1-2 digests a day instead of individual posts. Stay warm! Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Oops- I forgot to finish these obituaries that have been posted on the Barren Co Board - thanks for the reminder Joyce! I am adding to these every day as you know. Sandi Poplar Springs Cemetery: Ambrose Baldock, Rondal D Barabour, Orval E Mathews, Garnett Clifton Matthews, J H(omer) Matthews, Ormal Yancy Matthews, J W Maury, Virginia C Quick, Nancy Shipley Powell Cemetery #1: Stanley D Dockery, Annice Lane, Paul Lane, Beulah D Oliver Ralston-Renfro Cemetery: Mattie B Renfro Refuge Cemetery: Ernest Atnip, Mattie S Bray, Dillie Fisher, Dr C W Froedge, Evert R Froedge, Joe D Goode, Lilly M Goode, Ida G McGlocklin, Beulah E Miller, Paul Rigsby, Martha Ann Travis Rogers Cemetery #1: John W Richey, Lucy L Perkins Richey, Lucy Ellen Rogers Rogers Cemetery #2: Eugene G Baird, Wood Baird, Charles B Rogers Shady Grove Cemetery: Berry Daniel Martin Shiloh Cemetery: Mary J Abston, Eva L Bishop, Jesse T Britt, Wendell "Pete" Holman, Cornelius W Lawrence, R Floyd Lawrence, Jimmie W Reed, Harry M Sturdivant, Willie Williams Shirley Cemetery #2: Mary F Coomer Smith Cemetery #1: Emma G Bagby, Thomas C Bagby, Robert Newton Likens, Ernest Stephens Smith Cemetery #2: Ernest Young Smith Cemetery #10: W F Smith Smith Cemetery #14: Sabina Smith Speakman Cemetery: Madele Rich Speck-Mayfield Cemetery: George C Speck Spottswood Cemetery: Miss Nettie Mae Smith Steffey Cemetery: Nannie Elizabeth Steffey Stout Cemetery: Elizabeth Ruth Harwood Tolle Cemetery: Judith Garner, William Daniel Tolle Tracey Methodist Church Cemetery: Marcellus Matthews, Union #1 Cemetery: General Carter, Opal Eplin, Ray Francis, Cordie A Johnson, Iva G Minyard, Ermine Morrison, Hilra D Wyatt Union #2: Amanda S(usan) Bacon, Catherine A Bacon, Pearl Bacon, George W Barkhurst (book shows Burkhurst), Maude Crabtree, William Samuel Crabtree, J S Denham, Millard Garrett, M Harvey Harvey, Edith Joyce Hood, Freddie Jolly Jr, William L Jordan, Emmett L Kingery, Russel Mathews, Brent McCoy, Martha A Miller, Sallie Miller, Bruce Morgan, Lannie M Norris, Isaac B Reid, Joe Abb Russell, Maude Baldock Simmons, John "Gene" Stgewart, Augusta Evans Taylor, George Henry Wilborn, Jennifer Lynn Wilborn, Dulcie J Williams Walnut Hill Cemetery: Nolie Fisher, Arthur M Hampton, Irma Neville Haydon, Hezzie K Hill, Marion B Hill, Lula Belle Mansfield Jones, Harry Dee Kincheloe, Bessie Laviece Lewis, Hiram B Lobb, Brown Logsdon, Jesse S Mansfield, Sidney W Mansfield, Lucy E Martin, Bertha B Shirley, Ernest C Shirley, Eugene "Todd" Sturdivant, Emma Thomason, Lena A Walden, Ruben Wells, Jim Wyatt (Andy) Wells Cemetery #3: Sarah A Bailey, Martha S Wells, Mary F(rances) Wells (Brack) Wells Cemetery #4: B B Wells, (Brackston), B B Wells (Beverly Bird) White Cemetery #1: Blanche White Wood Cemetery #1: Rex Q Wheat Woods Cemetery (Black): Edward Bethel, George Overstreet, Arron Young SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

SELF, John, VA S31358. Lived in Cumberland Co 10 Sept 1832, age 70 when filed for pension. Born Amelia Co VA 1762; enlisted in Buckingham Co VA Jan 1780. Moved to KY 1789. Came to Cumberland Co 1809. Fellow soldier, Philip WINFREY of Adair Co KY made affadavit 12 Sept 1832. SCOTT, John, VA W3046. Living in Cumberland Co 13 May 1829 when making application, age 68. His widow whose maiden name was Sophia MURRY/MURREY filed her claim for widow's pnsion in 1848 at age 92. Fellow soldier Solomon PREWETT made affadavit in Cumberland Co 13 May 1829, he age 89. Knew soldier in VA. Also Joshua WATSON who married Nancy MURREY, sister of Sophia on 21 Nov 1799 made affadavit for Sophia SCOTT. THURMAN, Charles, VA S31314. Lived in Cumberland Co 13 Nov 1829, age 62. Enlisted Henrico Co VA, Richmond in Feb 1777. In 1820 had 2 daughters, youngest about 5. Fellow soldier John R THURMAN made affadavit in Cumberland Co 30 July 1828, knew soldier in VA. Also William SMITH and John SCOTT on same date and Philip LAWSON on same date. AMYX, Matthew Sr, VA S6501. Soldier made declaration for pension in Cumberland Co 9 Nov 1827. Served under Henry PAULDING in regt commanded by Col CLARK. Reason for moving to KY what that his son, Matthew Jr had moved there and he wished to live with his son. In 1826 he had made application for pension in same county and states that he served under Capt PAULDING and Col Charles LYNCH in the service of the US; his name was first place on the pension rolls of VA from where he had moved about 8 years ago. Formerly drew pension in Richmond from 4 Sept 1821 to Sept 1825. On 9 Nov 1827 Andrew McCRARY and Richard LAMB made affadavid that they knew the soldier; the same person who drew his pension in VA; had left his pension certificate with Mr.GRIFFIN of Botetourt Co who is now dead. Two doctors made affadavits in Cumberland Co in 1829 - Dr Joel OWSLEY and Dr M L STONER - soldier is an invalid caused by a wound in the shoulder by a ball. To be continued next with with BAKER. Sandi SCKY Links: http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore/Gorin.html GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/