Continuation of the original land entries as found. Names shown as spelled (or interpreted!) January 1802, Certificates 372 thru 409: John Bennett, John Garrison, Jonathan E Garrison, John Hawkins, John Clark, James Barton, John Read, Richd Gray, Joseph Higdon, Jacob Lock, Jonathan Carr, John Gray, James Berry, Joshua Hodges, Joseph Camp, Samuel Carbe, John Matthews, John Allin, Ellener Loveless, John Boon, William Cotham, William Muschamp?, William Hodges, Michael Smith, Richard Cotham, John Downen, Wm King, George Renclk [Renick?], James Matthews, William Perkins, Moses Spencer, Johnston Munroe, Celbon Harloe, Thomas Parker, Joseph Roudiry, William Carde, John Johnston, Moses Johnston. February 1802, Certificates 410 thru 433: Jonas Austen, Edward Britt, Richd Bayley, Richd Turner, Peter Brothers, Samuel Simpson, William Oney, John Simpson, Peter Turner, Zacheriah Harrison, Peter Gray, William Spivey, John Cartright, William Simpson, Joel Thornton, Stephen Burnett, Zekiel Young, Robert Cunningham, John Wallace, John Dale, John Twitty, Saml Morgan, William Johnson. March 1802, Certificates 434 thru 453: Thomas Cotram Sr, Joseph Jenkins, John A Holloday, Hugh Brown, William Wilson, Zacheriah Allen, William Williams, Britton Williams, Jenkins Astin, Barney Flin, John Marshall, Joseph Pointer, John Criner, James Nevil, Richard Henderson, Abraham McEarly, James Crumpton, David Ally, Benjamin Williams, James Stringfield, Thomas Downs. May 1802: Certificates 454 through 475: Thomas Middleton, William Logan, Amos Smith, Patrick McMannis, Robert Dougherty, James Wells, Saml Isaacs, Wm Feland, Wm Springfield, Saml Reading, Wm Davidson, Tulliver Craig, Thomas Dagley, Robert Dougherty, John Summers, Saml Summers, William Rasdell, John Ranken, Saml Thomas, James Thomas, John Mayfield Jr, Isaac Carr. June 1802: Certificates 476 through 493: Daniel Wray, Thomas Brown, Thomas Whitwell, Robert Whitwell, Daniel Shipman, Andrew Lowry, David Rasdell, William Wright, John Smith, Thomas Wright, Jacob Wright, Polly Howell, James Clemmins, Robert McEntire, Miles Brooks, Thomas Karr, Adrin Lane, Tilman Lane. August 1802: Certificates 494 thru 509: Joseph Elliott, Thomas Means, William Goforth, James Clarke, James Summers, William Wiley, Henry Temple, John Wilson, Abner Brown, Mannon Gore, George Bushong, Benjamin Dailey, Edmund Perkins, Elijah Radford, William Douglas, Alexr Thomas. to be continued next week. Sandi SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Can anyone give Blaine a helping hand? He's not on either list - if you have any information to share, you will need to write him directly at: bs1164@aol.com Thanks much, Sandi Blaine wrote: I am from Allen Co. I am desperartly looking for some help and you seem to be one of the main people to go to. This is what I know. Im from Ayers and Caldwell/Culwell/Calwell of the area. Right now my main concern is David Caldwell/Culwell/Calwell and his son J.H. I know the date of David's death but that is it. Where is he burried? Did he serve in the Civil War? What about his son who was 21 in 1860, did he serve? Where is he burried? Any info would be great! Thanks, Blaine SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I am sorry my post went to entire list. I hit the reply button and didn't realize it was going to entire list. I wanted to e-mail just Sandy. Sorry. Margaret ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Yes, Sandy I would like to see the index. The latest on the McDaniel Cemetery........ We arrived home from Florida last week. I call Steve Wilson and ask what we could do about the cemetery. He said he had someone, a farm hand I believe, to clean it up. His mother Virginia Wilson has been in and out of the hospital for the past couple of months, so he has been busy. I will e-mail him and see if any work has been done of the cemetery. With this cold weather I am ready to do back to Florida. Margaret Wilson ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Continuation of births recorded in Hart Co before birth/death certificates were kept in KY. This is ALL the information given. BRENTS: Burt, Black, s/o Maxey & Lavina (HOOK) Brents (Barren-Barren), 20 Jan 1874 Cory B, shown female, d/o Frank & Dora (LOGSDON) Brents (Louisville-Hart), 20 Mar 1892. Harrison G, s/o J M & Susan J (CARDEN) Brents, southside (Hart-Barren), 27 Dec 1861. Jo Lewis, Black, s/o Maxey & Louisa (WOOD) Brents (Hart-Hart), 21 Jan 1876. Joseph T, Twin, s/o J M & Sarah E (MUNFORD) Brents (Hart-Hart), 27 Dec 1876. Mary Elizabeth, d/o John D & Elizabeth B (GARVIN) Brents, southside, 14 Oct 1853. Slave Elizabeth, owned by Joshua Brents, southside, 4 Dec 1857. Slave Mariah Ann, owned by John Brents, southside, 1 May 1854. Zorada M, Twin, d/o J M & Sarah E (MUNFORD) Brents (Hart-Hart), 27 Dec 1876. BRIGHT: George S, s/o J A & C J (REYNOLDS) Bright, northside (Green-Green), 27 July 1861. J Robert, s/o James A & Corintha J (REYNOLDS) Bright, northside, 22 Oct 1858. BROADY: John D, s/o William S & Sarah A (WALTON) Broady, southside, (Barren-Barren), 17 Mar 1861. Dallie E, d/o James H & Malissa (CROSS) Broady (Hart-Clinton), born Barren Co, 9 Sept 1874. Thomas W, s/o William S & Sarah A (WALTON) Broady (Barren-Barren), 8 May 1876. BROWN: Martha Louise, d/o W? & Martha Jane (WHEELER) Brown, southside, 9 Apr 1853. Mary E, d/o Samuel W & Rebecca A (GOFF) Brown, southside, 2 Mar 1858. Meda, d/o C C & Julia A (PERREGIN) Brown (AL-Allen), 24 June 1875. Mertle, d/o Burd T & Margie (GOLDSMITH) Brown (Hart-Washington), 7 Feb 1876. No First, dead, d/o Samuel W & Rebecca Ann (GOFF) Brown, southside, 21 Sept 1854. No First, s/o Same, 6 Sept 1859. No First, s/o Berry F & Luzetta (FULKERSON) Brown (Larue-Grayson), 2 July 1874. No First, d/o William M & Ann E (STINSON) Brown (Hart-Danville KY), 10 Oct 1874. Rachel Tabitha, d/o Isaac N & Elizabeth (WATKINS) Brown, southside, 9 Apr 1854. Rosannah, Black, d/o Moses & Catharine (NEELEY) Brown (Fayette Co-GA), 6 Jan 1876. Rosie Ann, d/o Daniel & Cassender (COYLE) Brown (NY-NY), 25 Dec 1874. Sarah E, d/o John W & Behesterline (COBB) Brown, northside, 14 Mar 1859. Sarah F, d/o Alfred & Betty Ann (GOFF) Brown, 29 Sept 1852. Sarah M, d/o William A & Sarah M (NUNN) Brown (Taylor-Hart), 8 Oct 1874. Slave Daniel, owned by J T S Brown, northside, 18 Mar 1859. Slave Elizabeth, owned by same, 15 Oct 1861. Slave James Robert, owned by Nancy Brown, southside, 24 July 1854. Slave No First, female, owned by William B Brown, northside, 1 Dec 1854. Slave William, owned by John T S Brown, northside, 29 Oct 1854. Trudy J, d/o Ben F & Lucetta (FULKERSON) Brown (Larue-Grayson), 15 Aug 1875. Victoria, d/o James & Mary (GRAHAM) Brown (Green-Hart), 11 Feb 1874. ___, s/o O A & Mary (JONES) Brown, 28 Nov 1852. BROWNFIELD: Nancy E, d/o Elisha & Sarah J (STURGEON) Brownfield, southside, 31 Dec 1858. Rebecca Janek, d/o Palatine & Elizabeth (BASS) Brownfield, born Taylor Co, 23 Aug 1857. BRUMFIELD, William C, s/o Elisha H & Sarah J (STURGEON) Brumfield, southside, (Hart-Hart), 20 Jan 1861. NOTE: See Brownfield. To be continued next week with BUCKNER. Sandi SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I've been busy typing again, and this one was an interesting challenge! Christopher Tompkins was a very noted Judge of the Circuit Court, respected throughout the state, a Governor candidate, reared many years by the honorable John Breckinridge. With his move to Barren Co and his marriage to Theodosia Logan, he carved out for himself an extremely noteworthy career including being Judge of the Circuit Court. I have published 2 other minute books of the Circuit Court and one Witness book, all written by Richard Garnett, the Circuit Court Clerk for many years. This book covers September 15, 1817 through Sept 18, 1822 and is a compliment book to those above. It is a list of everyone who was sued, who sued or who sat on the Grand Jury during this time frame. As in the other books, sometimes the cases are not explained in detail but with the other books, there is a picture of life in Barren Co during this time. Cases ranged from horse stealing, land and slave distributions, the famous John Hamilton murder trial, lunacy, divorces and most primarily debt. During this time frame KY was undergoing a financial upheaval, bank closings and notes that could not be paid. Businesses were suing businesses, businesses were suing customers who could not pay. Seldom will one find a really "bad guy", altho they are there - most of the people involved were friend or kin and after their cases were heard, sat on the Grand Jury for another case. It is almost a who's who of Barren Co at the time when the county was very small. It appears that every male in the county was sued, sued someone or sat on the Grand Jury. The book is 150 typed pages long, written beautifully by Richard Garnett, sometimes assisted by his brother, John Garnett. Comments are wonderful when some was fined for not showing up for Jury duty or for "razzing" someone during the hearing of the case. Earlier settlers who had moved to other states were often subpoened to appear to give testimony - Alabama, Louisiana, Illinois and the Missourie [sic] Territory along with Indiana Territory. The index is huge, 34 pages with over 10,000 entries. I'm thankful to be done with the book, but it gave me a good history lesson of the area and I included a definitions and abbreviations page along with a write-up on the life of Christopher Tompkins. If you would like to see a copy of the index, write me privately and I'll send it to you as a virus-free Word document attachment. Sandi SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

CHRISTIAN, No First Name, born Barren Co, d/o John H & Mary (FURKIN) Christian (Green- Cumberland), 24 Sept 1876. CLEMMONS, J W, s/o W R & E A (COOKSEY) Clemmons (Monroe-Adair), 8 Aug 1876. CLOYD, James E, s/o John & Tibitha (CARTER) Cloyd (Cumberland-Barren), 9 June 1874. COCHRAM, Malinda F, d/o George A & Mary A (DODSON) Cochram (Barren-Barren), 9 July 1874. COCHRAN, Willis A, s/o above, 6 Nov 1876. COFFEY, No First, d/o Joel & Mamrgaret (HILL) Coffey (Russell-Russell), 1874. COLE, C J, s/o N M CREE? & C J Coles (NC-Barren), 3 July 1876. COLEMAN: A L, s/o C W & S J (PENDLETON) Coleman (Adair-Adair), 16 Apr 1876. Clay R Jr, s/o Clay R & Lonie (PURSLEY) Coleman (Metcalfe-TN), 21 Nov 1906. Fannie Y, d/o James A & E J (SKAGGS) Coleman (Adair-Barren), 15 Oct 1875). Mattie E, d/o C W & E J (PENDLETON) Coleman (mother born Adair), 27 Aug 1878. COLLINS, Odell, s/o O C & Mattie (SMITH) Collins (Cumberland-Metcalfe), 20 Oct 1906. COMPTON: Ben A, s/o J R & Kitty (DIAL) Compton (Metcalfe-Metcalfe), 12 July 1907. J A, s/o John & Ella (MEDLEY) Compton (Unknown-VA), 8 Dec 1876 J S, s/o W W & Rachel (ENGLAND) Compton (Metcalfe-Metcalfe), 5 Apr 1907. John, s/o John & Matilda E (McKNIGHT) Compton, born Barren Co (Adair-Monroe), Twin, 30 Oct 1874. No First, d/o J N & Rachel (MEDLEY) Compton, stillborn (Metcalfe-Metcalfe), 12 Oct 1906. No First, d/o Willie & Lettie/Lillie (SHIVE) Compton (Metcalfe-Metcalfe), 11 Mar 1907. Sallie F, d/o Billy & Matilda (BEASLEY) Compton (Adair-Metcalfe), 1878. Ruth, d/o W B & Emma (BLANKENSHIP) Compton, born East Fork KY (Adair-Green), 24 Nov 1906. Sarah F, d/o John & Matilda E (McKNIGHT) Compton, born Monroe Co, (Adair-Monroe), 30 Oct 1874 Twin. William H, s/o Lewis T & Sarah B (WILLIAMS) Compton (Barren-Barren), 23 Oct 1875. CONGERS, Ann Eliza, d/o William A & Bell (WILCOXEN) Congers (Hart-Barren), Oct 1875, NOTE: There is another entry showing the name as CONYERS with a birth date of 5 Oct 1874, same parents. Sometimes births were entered accidentally on two different years so??? COOK, Virginia N, d/o Valentine & Amanda (LEEPER) Cook (Hart-Barren), 11 June 1861. COOKSEY, Jesse O, s/o Lus? & Evie (PEDIGO) Cooksey (TN-Metcalfe), 14 Sept 1906. COOMER, Beulah M, d/o D F & Cora A (STINSON) Coomer (Adair-IL), 11 Feb 1907. COOMER, William H, s/o Joseph M & Fannie (STEPHENSON) Coomer (Pulaski- White Co TN), 31 July 1874. To be continued next week with COX. Sandi SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Maybe I'm not seeing the forest for the trees but just revisiting the 1910 census helped because it hit me that of the likely relations to this Ambrose Spear b. 1878 are the same families that were living in close proximity to each other on the Martinsburg Rd. in 1910. I had thought it noteworthy that the Ambrose b. in Edmonson Co. 1878 father's name was Francis M. The Monroe Co. family of Hulet Spear and America Head had a son Francis M. b. 1871 (m. Amelia Pennington) and they too lived close by to Ambrose and Martha/Mattie in 1910. The other Ambrose in 1910 Monroe Co. mentioned by Doug was enumerated in the Union area on the Mud Lick & Glasgow Rd. I'm not familiar with the geography of the county so don't know if these two Ambroses were physically close to each other or not. I appreciate all of the input. Y'all are special people! Lea Head headtexan@skytex.net

Thomas BARTLEY #R591. Appeared 26 Feb 1838 in Monroe Co, aged about 78 years. Said Thomas BARTLEY made a declaration before said court in 1833 but his name was written as Thomas BARTLETT - he being an illiterate man and was not informed of the mistake until lately. Th War Department had said they found no record of him as a soldier under the name of BARTLETT. He declared that in Philadelphia PA he was an apprentice to a butcher by the name of John HOUSEMAN. He enlisted in the regular army under command of a light horse company in the 1st Regt of the Continental commanded by Col SHRYHAWK. There was a man who enlisted on the same day with William T BARTLEY by the name of Benjamin OSTEN but the applicant was transferred to the foot troops under command of Capt TABOT - Osten also transferred to same. His Major was RETT. He performed his services in Philadelphia, Morristown and Chester PA. He never was in any engagement during his services but weas surprised at sign? of the block house in the night in 1781 having served mroe than 2 years but not quite 3 years. His discharge is lost or he left it in Hagerstown MD where he lived for 3 years after the close of the war. Then he moved to VA where he lived for 4 years, then went with ST CLAIR for 6 months and was wounded at the time of his defeat when he was brought to Georgetown KY by Maj BODINGER where he remained until his wound was healed. He then returned to VA where he enlisted 3 years under Capt Alexandria GIPSON of Staunton under Gen WAYNE's command and served him for 3 yeears. He was discharged at Cincinnati OH; came to KY to close to where he now lives and married. He has never returned to MD, thus he doesn't have his discharge. He knows of no person who knows of his services during the Rev War. He relinquishes every claim whatevesr to a pension or annity except the present one. William BUTLER, clerk of the Monroe Co Courft certified that the foregoing contained the original proceedings of the court in the matter of Thomas Bartley for pension. On 22 Dec 1838 Bartley made declaration similiar to the one he made in Feb. He wanted to amend as following: The name of the Col should have been written SKYHAWK instead of SHRYHAWK. On 18 July 1855 Margaret BARTLEY of Monroe Co, widow of Thomas appeared and made declaration in court of being the widow. She wished to appoint with full power of substitution William BARTLEY [also looks like BARKLEY] of Danville her attorney to make a full investigation. The declaration was attested by Henry BRAY and William BARTLEY, both of Monroe Co and certified by Ile? CONKLIN, Clerk of the county court of Monroe Co. 30 May 1854 the widow appeared again and repeated his military service. She appointed Charles C TUCKER of Washington DC as her attorney. Declaration made before William L JACKSON, JP, William Bartley; certified by A C CONKLIN, Clerk of Monroe Co. Nothing else in the file. To be continued next week with Matthew KIDWELL, Jacob GOODMAN, Joseph KINGARY, John GILES, Ephraim DICKEN, etc. Sandi SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Lea Head wrote: > Hoping someone will take pity on an old, frustrated woman who has >spent the last week trying to figure out who Ambrose Spear's parents >and family were. This Ambrose was born abt 1878 in KY and married >Settie Bailey on 13 Jan 1898 in Monroe Co. (copy actually says >Ambroe). Later, in the 1930 Monroe Co. census, he turns up but wife's >name is Mattie D., age 45. Children enumerated then were Homer J., >Harlan C., Hanley F., Cloyd H. and Losie R. Many thanks in advance >for any scrap of comfort or information .....................Lea Head > ======================================================================= Lea, I looked at this for a while this morning and intend to spend more time, since I have a lot of Spear interests. Here are some observations. Settie Bailey, the first wife of Ambros(e) was Lousettie C Bailey. I have some data on her ancestry: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dougmoore&id=I18239 Settie died on 4 Oct 1905 and is buried in Bailey Cem in Monroe Co. Ambrose then married Martha (Mattie) D Emmert on 23 Nov 1905 in Monroe Co. I have a lot on the Emmerts: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=dougmoore&id=I20186 Mattie and Ambrose are both buried in Bailey Cem near Settie. L C Spear: 1 May 1875 - 4 Oct 1905 (This is Settie) Ambrose Spear: 2 May 1880 - 14 Dec 1946 Mattie D Spear: 27 Apr 1884 - 12 Jan 1936 Ambrose is listed in the Monroe Co census in 1900, 1910, 1920 and 1930. There is a 2nd Ambrose Spear in the 1910 census, but I didn't find him in the other years. You probably saw the Francis Spear in the 1880 Edmonson Co census, with his 2 year old son Ambrose M(Martin) Spear. This might be your Ambrose. I think that this Francis Spear is the one from Cumberland Co. Have you looked at the DC for Ambrose? This should resolve the parent question. He is listed in the KY DC index: SPEARS AMBROS 066 MONROE MONROE 12-14-1946 005 02057 1947 Doug Moore moore@asu.edu -- |==================================================================| | J.Douglas Moore Mathematics.. http://math.asu.edu/~moore/home | | moore@asu.edu Genealogy.... http://www.public.asu.edu/~moore | |==================================================================| | Math Department Office: (480)965-3720 HOME: | | Arizona St. U. Fax: (480)965-8119 5223 E Tamblo Dr | | Tempe,AZ 85287 Home: (480)893-1144 Phoenix,AZ 85044 | |==================================================================| | Tempe Symphony Orchestra.. http://www.tempe.gov/arts/events/TSO/ | |==================================================================| | "An empty vessel makes the most noise." (Shakespeare, Henry V) | |==================================================================|

Hoping someone will take pity on an old, frustrated woman who has spent the last week trying to figure out who Ambrose Spear's parents and family were. This Ambrose was born abt 1878 in KY and married Settie Bailey on 13 Jan 1898 in Monroe Co. (copy actually says Ambroe). Later, in the 1930 Monroe Co. census, he turns up but wife's name is Mattie D., age 45. Children enumerated then were Homer J., Harlan C., Hanley F., Cloyd H. and Losie R. Many thanks in advance for any scrap of comfort or information .....................Lea Head

"James Rollie Payne, son of William Thomas Payne and Mary Elizabeth "Mollie" Simmons (daughter of Capt. James Simmons)" Does anyone know the father/family of this "William Thomas Payne?" Any help will be appreciated. Thanks, Charles R. Arterburn ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news

As I announced last week on the SCKY list, for a goodly time I will be running the biography of James Bosley Carter, written when he was age 76. I have decided to run it also on the KYBARREN list as I think the readers will find it extremely interesting. The story starts in Cumberland Co KY. This is courtesy of Margaret Gagliardi <megsgeneo@gmail.com> to whom I give much thanks. I hope you enjoy the series. Sandi ** James Bosley Carter writes: Please take the time to be thrilled with a heretofore unreleased record of one man's chronicle of his part in the American Civil War - don't let his Preface scare you off. This manuscript has been typed as close to the original handwritten text, as possible, with its author's colorful errors and "flexible spelling" intact. Some military and other period terms are defined at the end, to assist the reader. PREFACE To be born is a condition that has come to evry one that has been born into this life since the world began, and the onley differance that there is in the culmination of such an event is the conditions that may have surrounded each individual case. It has often occurred that the Prince of the relm, and the Pesant of the lowest order, have been born within the same hour, and so far as the physical fact was concerned, there was no difference, but the social conditions that have obtained in these cases, was notorious to the extent that in the former, the fact of the birth was heralded to evry part of the civilized world, over which the inhabitance were greatly rejoyced, and celebrated the occasion with lowd acclaim while in the latter incident little was known of the fact outside of the hovel in which it occurred, and instead of honor and goodwill to the little strainger, the question of food and raiment was seriously considered without reaching a satisfactory conclussion. Thus quietly, and meekly millions have come in it, and lived in it for a time and have gone out of it without either fact being known outsider of the circle of a very small number of friends whose friendship and kind offices was a matter of duty instead of pleasure. Some however, like the redeemer of the world, have been paupers as were at birth, have died kings, and princes of the relm, and for many years afterwards have been reveranced as great benefactors of the race. Thus the story of the cross will be told through out all ages till all the world shal hear the glad tidings, and the name of Lincolon will be reveranced, by all of the lowley, and downtroden, as the great emansipator. This preface is inteded to introduce to any member of my family who may take the trouble to read the following sketch of my life now being writen in the early daun of my 76 yeare. I am sorry that I havent a more startling aray of facts to present, but it is something to live so long in the world, and while it has not been my privilege to atchieve great, and notable things, I have performed my duty as I have seen it with energy, and absolute honesty. ooooooo OOOOOOO ooooooo CHAPTER I The reader of the prefface of to this beography will find nothing to indicate that I was born a prince: neither will he conclude that I was born a pauper; but it will not be out of place to say that while my parents were not rich, as the world looks at such acquirements; they were rich, in the qualities that are necessary to build up and establish an honorable manwhood, and a pure, and unassaleble womanhood; in principal they were arristocrate, and gloried in the honorable traditions of their families; but unfortunately for them and the subject of this sketch, they were seriously handicapped by the balefull influencies of human slavery; that in their day were injected into the social relations of life, by the use of the negro as such, as it existed in the south prior to the civil war; and this observation calls into the question the place of my nativity, which I am not asshamed to locate in the foothills of the cumberland mountains in Cumberland county Kentuckey. It is a matter of history that this part of the country was settled up by imigrants from Verginia, North carlina, and Tenn; all had working people, thoroughly honest in all of their business transactions, and profoundly religeous in their morral uprightness. These people all came from a mountaineous part of the country, and were well equipped for the hardships that were necessary to subdue the wilderness out of which they were to make new homes. Inspite of the hardships that they had to indure I believe that they got more satisfaction out of life, than people do now, with all of the modern opertunities for ease and social pleasures. While these people did not bring a great many slaves with them, they did bring much of the prejudice, that follow in the wake of slave conditions, and they could hardly get away from it, when it was preached to them from the pulpit evry sabath day. I remember that a very favorite test; "Servents obey your masters, for such is the will of God", and as the preachers depended upon the few slave owners for their saleries, they had little trouble in silencing any little prickings of their concience that might diturbe their equinimity that might trouble them, occassioaly. It looks strange, now that these liberty loving people should have been controled by the influencies that came over the mountains from the far south land, where slavery was paramount. My Father, Green Carter was born in Cumberland County KY, and his ancesters were Verginians, and of English decent; and thogh he was oppoesed to negro slavery, his predjudices against the abolitionists were so strong, that inspite of his moving around, very close to the notorious "Mason & Dixon line; he never ventured across it to live; in his religious views he was quite puretanical, and his observance of the sabath day was so streneous, that it was a torture to young people, who were full of life, and energy, at least that was the way that it appeared to me at the age of 7 & 8 years of age. While he was given to hard labor, as were all who were born in a mountaineous part of the country. They had no faculty for acquiring property in the direction of a perminent home, and if he had done so I am of the opinion that the church would have gotten most of it in one way or an other. During his whole life, from a young man to its close, he was an exorter, a local preacher, and a clas leader, in the methodist church, and spent much valuable time in looking after the churches affares. He was also given to a sperit of unrest, and moved around from place to place, rearly remaining in one place more than one year. Truly he was a rolling stone, "that gathers no moss". Inasmuch as other charactoristics will appears from time to time, in this narrative, further mention is not necessary here. My mother, Frances Hawkins was born in Verginia, but her father removed to Tenn while she was yet a babe, and shortly aftrwards to Cumberland county Kentuckey, where she grew up to wormanhood without acquiring an education, further than to read. She was a most loveable character, and if she could have acquired a liberal education, she would have taken high rank in the social affares of life. But as it was, she commanded the love and respect of all who ever made her acquaintence. I do not think that anyone who knew her ever spoke ill of her in anyway. Her religious convictions were most profound, and impressive, and so thuroghly unselfish, that one could be mistaken as to the purity of her motives. She was a member of the methodist church for more than fifty years, and inspite of many hardships, and privations, and serious physical disability she lived to be nearley 75 years of age. Shortly after my birth, which occurred on the 15 day of October 1836. My parents removed to Harden county KY, where we reamined some two years, when they again removed to Mead county KY. About this time some of our neighbors concluded to remove to southeastern Mo, where they had some relatives already located. I do not remember the county, but know that it was in the corner of the state, on the Miss river, about 18 miles above Newmadered, and my father, ever ready to rove, cought the fever, and joined them in this unfortunate venture, which resulted in his death some two years afterwards. At this time we were living about 25 miles from the Ohio river, with the great free north land just beyond, and yet my father faild, or refused to take advantage of the opertunity of his to forever get away from the balefull influence of negro slavery. Just across the border, great opertunities were available for his children to acquire an education, that would prepare them for the responsibilities of life, while on the otherside was enforced ignorance, and social ostracism. There were three families of us who proposed to go to what they termed a land of promise, and vigerous steps were taken at once to prepare for the removal. A flat boat was constructed, and launched in salt river, a short distance from the Ohio river, which was large enough to carry all of the families, their household plunder, their farming tools, their stock, in fact evrything that would be needed at their new homes. Thogh a small boy, many of the incidents of the journey are indelably fixed in my mind, and are now rememberd at my advanced age, as if occuring but yesterday. At that time, water transportation was the onley mode for heavy transportation, and the Ohio river teamed with mighty steamers that plowed up and down the rivers, and were in evidence, almost continualy, day and night. Having more space than we needed, we took on some freight, as a speculation, which consisted in part of a lot of barreled lime. We also had an extra passinger on board that engaged my boyish attention during the days, and part of the time at night. This passinger was a well developed member of the babroon family, this animal, thogh chained became a terror to the children both day and night, and finaly to the men, when they went out one morning and found that broone had tore some of the lime barrels into peices, and scattered the lime over the boat. Of course the lime had to be thrown overboard. I do not know what became of the perpetrator of all of this miscief, and loss, I onley know that he disapeared, to the great satisfaction of all on board the boat. In those days, steamboats were a terror to flatsboatmen. The officers of a steamer and steamers in general had very little regard for flatboatsmen, and rarely failed to show their contempt for them by running close enough to throw water over the gunwals of the boat. In cases where onley men were aboard these contemptable acts, created lttle excitement, other than aburst of profanity on the part of the "flatboatmen" but when there was a lot of women and children aboard, the lementations of these people, parralized the men into profound, silence. The steamboatmen generaly knew who they were fooling with. They did not trouble the boats of the heavy shippers, for each one had some peculararty in the construction of their boats, that was familiar to the officers of the steamboats. Of course there was a law governing transportation, as there is now, but boats owened by occassional shippers like ours, had very little remedy for annoyance, or damages agains these fellows, for the reason that if they even got into the courts with their cases they would have little show for justice against these corporations. So you see that monopolistic forces were in evidence, even in those earley days, and were quite as arrogant and hard to controll as they are at this time, the steamboat interests wanted to monopolize the freight transportation, and used every means in their power to drive the flatboatsman from the rivers. In those days the freight trafic from the Ohio, and Miss vallies were emense, and the heavy part of it found its way to Neworleans by water transportation. The law required each flatboat to display a signal, which was a flage of some kind in the daytime and a large torch light at night. to be continued. Sandi SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

Hi Sandi, The record you mentioned of a Mrs. Stilts who died 7 July 1939 would be my grandmother - Sarah Elizabeth Smith STILTS. She is buried in the Cave City Cemetery along side of her husband, John William Stilts. I hope you are doing well. Wayne Hatcher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandi Gorin" <sgorin@glasgow-ky.com> To: <SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:26 AM Subject: [SCKY] STILTZ > Tonya - no record here. There is a Mrs Stiltz who die d7 July 1939, age 57 > who's burial was handled by Mrs J B Garder of Cave City; no burial > location > given. Hatcher and Saddler have this record - no other information.

Tonya - no record here. There is a Mrs Stiltz who die d7 July 1939, age 57 who's burial was handled by Mrs J B Garder of Cave City; no burial location given. Hatcher and Saddler have this record - no other information. I checked A F Crow & Son - they have a Florence Stilts of Route 5 Glasgow who died 22 Mar 1955 at home of her son Dallas. Born 1 Jan 1862 Green Co - she was a widow - buried Sandige Cemetery in Wisdom. That's the only records that are close. SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I'm searching for a funeral home record for Granville Archie Stiltz. He died in Barren County in October 1940. He was buried in the Cedar Flatt Cemetery in Edmonton. Family members are wanting to put up a stone, but need to locate the grave site. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Tonya

Continuation of the original land entries. Oct 1801 entries include #207 through 315 - numbered in consecutive order as shown: [names spelled as shown on the Clerk's list] David Owing, William Newell, Elijah Johnston, Haiden Trigg, Benjamin Johnston, John Johnston, John Hawkins, John Johnston Sr, Joseph Williams, James Morrison, John Mitchell, William Anderson, John Murphy Jr, John Murphy Sr, Gorsham Lee, Barnabas Walters, George Davis, William Barrens, Samuel Patton, James Barnes, Charles Barnes, Hellen Call, Henry Scaggs, John Kelsey, John Andrews, Willey Burris, William Laswell, Thomas Simpson, Geremiah Bridges, Thomas Flanry, James Wealch, William Mitchell, Daniel Beck, Peter Ash, William Siddins, Benjamin Poe, William Gess, Stephen Philips, John Simon, Jesse Rogers, William Leonard, Morrica Phelps, Peter King, Alexander Stewart, Benjamin French, Jacob Chism, John Birks, Wm Johnston, Moses Kelsey, Saml Anderson, Hawkey Gunter, Hugh Marshall, John Harley, Saml Forrister, Thomas Wyley, Jesse Rogers, Alexander Brown, Walter Holms, Thomas Hall, Thomas Smith vs John Crow (sic), Joseph Bayless, Benjamin Burcham, David Burcham, James Carter, James Clark, Ephriam Ellis, William Goforth, Benjamin Harris, Samue/Emanuel Holms, Francis Handel, Thomas Means, James McMurtry, Gideon Mayfield, Howard Mercer (two entries), Britton Ward, Samuel Doyal, John West, Isaac Ralston, Timothy Puckett, John Cole, Thomas Flippin, David McGuire, Thomas Cortrum Sr. November Court 1801, #'s 317 through 371: Jonathan Burd, Johnston Poe, James Lasley, Daniel Munroe Jr, Matthew Warters [Walters-Waters?], Samuel Mitchell, John Harris, John True, Alexander Brown, William Richardson, William Jones, John Franklin Jr, John Moss, Coalman Harrsdil?, Arthur Hagan, Robert Crump, John Ray, Thomas Gallon, David Porter, William Munroe, Alexander Gordon, Wm D Swaringen, William Ray, Larry Chapman, Edmund Watts, Joseph Hill, William Murphy, Richard Reynold, Thomas Buknall, Samuel Malone, Thomas Bates, Bennett Mesely, Edward Barns, Charles Arbuckle, Conrad Speecs, Isaac Reed, Keller Morris, Jonathan Hillyard, Daniel Blain, Moses Mitchell, Joshua Morris, John Wayt [Wyatt], John Morris, John Craighill, William Hughes, John Johnston, William Watson, Christopher DIckers, James Denny, James Downy, Robert Newell, Andrew Stice, Marten Wells?, Gambler Cas?, James Bates. To be continued next week with Jan 1802. Sandi SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/

I am looking for information on a William K. MCCOMAS and need to know who is wife was. His oldest child is 36 in the 1850 Monroe County census and this is the first year his children is listed. William K. is not on that census but a Lydia, who is 61 is listed, which I thought might be William K.'s widow. My husband descends from William's son, Elisha Sinclair McComas and we have documented information from Elisha S. MCCOMAS on down, But can find nothing about William K. MCCOMAS. This family lived in the part of Monroe County that is near Cumberland County and Elisha Sinclair MCCOMAS moved his family to Cumberland County. In the Monroe County census of 1820 through 1840 the only MCCOMAS listed is William MCCOMAS. I don't know if this is William K. or not. No wife or children are listed. Can anyone help me? I would greatly appreciate any info. on this family. Thanks, Flo Lewis flo1121@alltel.net

My dad and I visited the Horse Cave area back in 1976 to meet OVERFELT kin. It was beyond great! Our hosts took us to meet lots of folks and see many places significant in the family's history. I know we went to Glasgow, Barren Co., but am not sure what other counties we went into. I was especially impressed with the Overfelt Burying Ground with its tall, thick wall enclosure. It was one of several cemeteries we visited. My questions for the list are: Where is the OBG? I do not find a specific location (county, etc)in my notes from the trip (pretty well yellowed with age now!); Secondly,what is the location of the PHILLIPS/OVERFELT Cemetery? I would be pleased to share my OVERFELT data, as well as related family data, with anyone. Some of the related family names are TURNER, GOOCH, CUNNINGHAM, HAWKS, WALROND and PERKINS. Sincerely, Mary (WALLACE) SLOAN david.sloan@sbcglobal.net

Roy Kinslow sent me this link a couple of weeks ago and I just have had time to read it. I think you will find the article of interest with its connection to this area. Thanks Roy! Sandi Roy said: Sandi, the article at the attached link may be of interest to some Glasgow and So. KY listers. Two persons named in the story, Edwin F. Smith of Glasgow, and Aubrey K. Stinson of Caneyville, are from Kentucky. The story has to do with the mid-air crash of two B-29 bombers over Weatherford, Texas during a training mission on August 17, 1945. As you will recall, Weatherford is 20 or 30 miles northwest of Fort Worth. The training date seems a little strange to me because the Japanese surrender was signed on August 15, 1945. The difference could be from inaccurate reporting or other reasons. Edwiin Smith was still alive in the late 1990s because he was interviewed for the story. Lt. Smith and his waist gunner were the only survivors of the crash of the two planes. The other B-29 was piloted by Lt. Stinson. Nothing is said of him in the article. Roy Kinslow Dallas TX http://www.texasescapes.com/WorldWarII/TragedyOverWeatherfordTexas.htm SCKY Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=south-central-kentucky Barren Co Archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=kybarren GGP: http://ggpublishing.tripod.com/