Hi Craig, Tombi and Nikki There is indeed some controversy about exactly who the wife of Alan Duthie BOWKER was. However, although I cannot prove it 100%, as I have not seen a marriage certificate yet, I think that he married Ethel ATHERSTONE, and not Ethel Atherstone HILTON-BARBER. My reasoning is as follows: Ethel Atherstone HILTON-BARBER, it would appear, from her tombstone, never married, and only died in 1949. See http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1314810. So she clearly did not die before Alan Duthie BOWKER, and her tombstone still gives her maiden name. I have been unable to find a tombstone for Ethel Atherstone BOWKER. The only Ethel BOWKER listed on eGGSA Gravestones is Ethel Patricia Southey BOWKER, nee STIRK (http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1642925) Like, Tombi, I did not keep references when I started out (bad,bad,bad), but I have Ethel ATHERSTONE's date of birth as 5 June 1878, and that she is the daughter of Walter ATHERSTONE and Mary Ann Hornsby BLAKE. There are photographs of these two people in my great-grandmother's (Williamina CURRIE, nee BOWKER) photo album (see photo no. 90 here - http://1820settlers.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_itemId=2627&g2_page=5). As you say, Craig, there are so many cross-linkages in these families that it can become very confusing. I would be very keen to hear what other listers think, as Alan Duthie BOWKER was my grandmother's (Olive CURRIE, nee BOWKER) brother. Kind regards Ian Currie On 2012/10/14 11:34 AM, Craig Hilton-Taylor wrote: > Hi Tombi > > Many thanks for all the extra details, that helped fill a few gaps. The one > big difference I have concerns: > > 5. Alan Duthie BOWKER born abt Feb 1879 Graham's Town, Albany Eastern Cape > of Good Hope died 24 March 1918 Flanders during WW1 married Ethel Mary > ATHERSTONE born May 1881, Graham's Town, Albany, Eastern Cape of Good Hope > died 11 August 1963 Johannesburg, Transvaal, Republic of South Africa. > > I have Alan's wife as Ethel Atherstone HILTON-BARBER (born 31 Mar 1878 in > the Cape and died BEF 1918). Ethel was the daughter of Hilton HILTON-BARBER > (1842-1928) and Fanny ATHERSTONE. Alan and Ethel married on 10 Mar 1909 in > St Michael's and All Angel's Church, Middleton, Cape, South Africa. > > In support of this, if you look at the Memorial Inscription to Alan on the > Commonwealth Graves Commission website > (http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/309828/BOWKER,%20ALAN%20DUTHIE) > it reads: > > "In Memory of > Lieutenant ALAN DUTHIE BOWKER > > 4th Regt., South African Infantry > who died age 38 > on 24 March 1918 > Son of Miles and Elizabeth Mary BOWKER; husband of the late Ethel Atherstone > BOWKER. > Remembered with honour > HEM FARM MILITARY CEMETERY, HEM-MONACU" > > So his wife's 2nd name was Atherstone, and she had died before Alan was > killed in the Battle of the Somme. > > > > There are so many cross linkages between these families and the same names > keep recurring hence it is very easy to get the wrong people linked up. So I > am not sure which of us is correct - can anyone else help? > > Best wishes > Craig > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tombi Peck > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 3:31 AM > To: Marielle Ford ; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Kathleen Bliss BOWKER > > Hi Marielle, > I have the parents of Kathleen Bliss BOWKER as Miles Bourchier BOWKER born > about 1844 Willowfontein, Graham's Town, Albany, Eastern Cape of Good Hope > died 22 June 1896 Moordenaarspoort, Middelburg, Eastern Cape of Good hope > married about 1871 Elizabeth Mary 'Bessie' DUTHIE born 31 Augus 1850 Knysna, > Western Cape of Good Hope died 1 December 1923 Gulu, Rhodesia. > I have their chilfen as: > 1. Annie Duthie BOWKER born 30 Jun 1872 Graham's Town, Albany, Eastern Cape > of Good Hope died 6 April 1956 Pallotti Nursing home, George, Western Cape. > She was married to Roderick Erskine DUMBLETON born 7 March 1873 died 13 Jun > 1967. They were married on the 12 December 1899 Oakhurst, George, Western > Cape. > 2. Mary Constance 'Girlie' BOWKER born 30 April 1874 Eastern Cape of Good > Hope died about 1928 married St. John McVERNON. > 3. Henry Mitford Duthie 'Harry' BOWKER born 3 September 1875 Signal Kop > Farm, Graham's Town Albany, Eastern Cape of Good Hope died 5 January 1932 > Cape Province, Union of South Africa married Alice Dorothy DISTIN born 28 > May 1894 Rosmead, Eastern Cape of Good Hope died 28 April 1976 Salisbury, > Mashonaland, Southern Rhodesia > 4. Miles Duthie BOWKER born 19 December 1877 Signal Kop Farm, Graham's > Town, Albany, Eastern Cape of Good Hope died 13 January 1960 Fairfax Farm, > Bathurst, Cape Province, Union of South Africa married abt 1892 Graham's > Town, Albany, Eastern Cape of Good Hope Georgia 'Eulalie' HART born 22 April > 1877 Cathcart, Eastern Cape of Good Hope died 27 November 1961 Dickenson > Street, Port Alfred, Cape Province, Republic of South Africa. > 5. Alan Duthie BOWKER born abt Feb 1879 Graham's Town, Albany Eastern Cape > of Good Hope died 24 March 1918 Flanders during WW1 married Ethel Mary > ATHERSTONE born May 1881, Graham's Town, Albany, Eastern Cape of Good Hope > died 11 August 1963 Johannesburg, Transvaal, Republic of South Africa. > 6. Elizabeth 'Bessie' Duthie BOWKER born about 1882 Eastern Cape of Good > Hope died about 1894. No Issue. > 7. Sybil Duthie BOWKER born 29 October 1883 Eastern Cape of Good Hope died > 18 June 1953 married 3 Jan 1912 Middelburg, Cape Province, Union of South > Africa Norman Mitford Bowker WHITE (a triplet his brothers being Castell > Damant Bowker WHITE and Osbaldeston Bowker WHITE) born 5 October 1875 Table > Farm, Graham's Town, Albany, Eastern Cape of Good Hope died 6 August 1936 > Cradock, Cape Province, Union of South Africa > 8. Kathleen Bliss BOWKER born about 1885 Knysna, Western Cape of Good Hope > died 28 May 1931 Queen's Hotel, Salisbury, Southern Rhodesia married Charles > 'Leslie' CUMMING born about 1894 died Unknown (First husband) and Frank > BUTLER at Middelburg, Cape of Good Hope died Unknown. > 9. Olive BOWKER born 9 November 1887 Middelburg, Cape of Good Hope died > abt 1966 Molteno, Cape Province, Republic of South Africa, married about > 1914 Harold Howard CURRIE born 26 June 1888 Graham's Town, Albany, Eastern > Cape of Good Hope died May 1963 Cathcart, Cape Province, Republic of South > Africa. > 10. Susan Mary BOWKER born 11 May 1890 Eastern Cape of Good Hope died about > 1892 Eastern Cape of Good Hope > 11. Helen Maud Bowker born about 1893 Eastern Cape of Good Hope died Unknown > married Gerald William PIERCE born in England died Unknown. > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >