The following was received from Viv Kymdell in response to my 2005 Rootsweb enquiry:. There seems to be two Ralph families, yours and mine, but dont think they tie up. Cheers Norma Richard RALPH x Elizabeth MILLS [b] 1. Joseph RALPH x Carolina Margareta Peterson [I would have thought Pietersen - Viv.] [c] 1. Hanna Palmer RALPH *Palmietfontein, Somerset East 5.5.1839 + Molteno 20.4.1919 # Molteno x Somerset East 17.2.1857 Alexander Daniel Peter JUBBER * Grahamstown 9.5.1828 + Molteno 7.3.1903 # Molteno. Alexander and Hanna had 19 [nineteen] children. If you would like the children, just let me know. [His 1st wife is shown as Sarah [Loveridge] LOVE * Trappes Valley, Albany 1.11.1834 + Bloemfontein, OFS 27.4.1852, Alexander and Sarah show 2 children]. Susanna Catharina Magdalena RALPH * Burgersdorp CP 18.5.1942 x 7.7.1962 Pieter Hendrik HENNING * Cathcart 12.1.1941 son of Stephanus Johannes Paulus HENNING [1918 - 1988] and Edith Mary GREYLING [1917 1965] Susanna and Pieter show 4 children. William Henry RALPH x Wesleyan Methodist Church, Queenstown Ester Sarah MITCHLEY *Kimberley 9.10.1877 ~ Wesleyan Methodist Church, Kimberley 29.10.1877, dau of Frederick James MITCHLEY and Elizabeth Ann RIDGARD [1856 - 1899]. There are no dates shown for William and no children shown, the notes record that his occupation is given as a platelayer, residing in Queenstown [Cape Government Railways]. Lynette RALPH *27.7.1968 x Bloemfontein, OFS 2.4.1988 Matthys Johannes VAN REENEN *23.12.1960, son of Jacob Johannes VAN REENEN [1931-1978] and Ester DEINER Lynette and Matthys show 1 dau. John RALPH x abt 1761 PA. USA, Verena HUNSAKER * PA. USA 1740, parents from Switzerland.

Hi Mike and Norma I don't know anything about John Alexander RALPH, but along the line I inherited some notes on the RALPH family tree from my sister-in-laws mother - she was a KNOTT and the KNOTT and RALPH lines are inter-linked. I am not researching the RALPH line at all, but seeing the correspondence below prompted me to pull out these notes. There were two RALPH families in FORD's 1820 Settler Party who went out to the Eastern Cape on the Weymouth in 1820: 1. Richard RALPH (b. abt 1790/91 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) married in abt 1815 to Elizabeth MILLS (b. 1790). Richard and Elizabeth had 4 children: Harriet (b. 1815/16), Samuel or Stephen (b. 1818 and di. shortly after their arrival in the Cape), Sarah and Agatha. So as the only son died young there are no male RALPH descendants from this line. 2. Joseph RALPH (b. 15 Jul 1792 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) a Baptist Lay Preacher married in 1815 at Crockerton, Wiltshire to Elizabeth CURTIS (b. ? Crockerton, Wiltshire and died sometime between Dec 1827 and Dec 1834 in the Eastern Cape) I suspect that Richard and Joseph RALPH were most likely brothers - both families came from Crockerton in Wiltshire, England. I haven't checked Sue McKay's 1820 Settler correspondence - there may be more clues in that on their relationship. Joseph RALPH and Elizabeth CURTIS had 5 children: Joseph (b. 1816, d. 1837), Mary (b. 1819, d. 21 Feb 1820 at sea), John (b. 1822), Rhoda (b. 1824), and Jemima (b. 1827). After Elizabeth died Joseph CURTIS married Carolina Margaretha PIETERSON (or PIETERSEN) in Dec 1834 in Somerset East. Joseph and Carolina had 11 children: i) Catherine RALPH (b. 13 Oct 1837 - Botha's Post, Cradock district) ii) Hannah Palmer RALPH (b. 05 May 1839 - Botha's Post Cradock district) ..... rest of her details in Mike's email below iii) Jacoba RALPH (b. 09 Nov 1840 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) iv) Samuel Richard RALPH (b. 25 May 1842 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) v) Benjamin RALPH (b. 15 Dec 1844 - - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) vi) Peter RALPH (b. 26 Oct 1846 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) vii) James RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1848 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) viii) Caroline RALPH (b. 10 Mar 1851 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) ix) Daniel RALPH (b. 23 Aug 1854 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) x) William Walker RALPH (b. 17 Sep 1856 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) xi) Jesse RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1858 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) I have further details on Benjamin RALPH's descendants if anyone is interested. The source for the information on Joseph RALPH's family is a typed note by Harold James RALPH - Joseph's g.grandson and with handwritten annotations by Harold and presumably by Ann SMITH (nee KNOTT). There is a third RALPH 1820 Settler - John RALPH (b. abt 1799) in ERITH's Party - I don't anything more about this line. I hope this info is of use to someone. Best wishes Craig -----Original Message----- From: Norma Patrick Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:21 PM To: MICHAELJ WATTRUS ; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Lookups - John Alexander RALPH The following was received from Viv Kymdell in response to my 2005 Rootsweb enquiry:. There seems to be two Ralph families, yours and mine, but dont think they tie up. Cheers Norma Richard RALPH x Elizabeth MILLS [b] 1. Joseph RALPH x Carolina Margareta Peterson [I would have thought Pietersen - Viv.] [c] 1. Hanna Palmer RALPH *Palmietfontein, Somerset East 5.5.1839 + Molteno 20.4.1919 # Molteno x Somerset East 17.2.1857 Alexander Daniel Peter JUBBER * Grahamstown 9.5.1828 + Molteno 7.3.1903 # Molteno. Alexander and Hanna had 19 [nineteen] children. If you would like the children, just let me know. [His 1st wife is shown as Sarah [Loveridge] LOVE * Trappes Valley, Albany 1.11.1834 + Bloemfontein, OFS 27.4.1852, Alexander and Sarah show 2 children]. Susanna Catharina Magdalena RALPH * Burgersdorp CP 18.5.1942 x 7.7.1962 Pieter Hendrik HENNING * Cathcart 12.1.1941 son of Stephanus Johannes Paulus HENNING [1918 - 1988] and Edith Mary GREYLING [1917 1965] Susanna and Pieter show 4 children. William Henry RALPH x Wesleyan Methodist Church, Queenstown Ester Sarah MITCHLEY *Kimberley 9.10.1877 ~ Wesleyan Methodist Church, Kimberley 29.10.1877, dau of Frederick James MITCHLEY and Elizabeth Ann RIDGARD [1856 - 1899]. There are no dates shown for William and no children shown, the notes record that his occupation is given as a platelayer, residing in Queenstown [Cape Government Railways]. Lynette RALPH *27.7.1968 x Bloemfontein, OFS 2.4.1988 Matthys Johannes VAN REENEN *23.12.1960, son of Jacob Johannes VAN REENEN [1931-1978] and Ester DEINER Lynette and Matthys show 1 dau. John RALPH x abt 1761 PA. USA, Verena HUNSAKER * PA. USA 1740, parents from Switzerland.

Hi Craig, I would be interested in any Ralphs from Thaba "Nchu, Free State. Johnny Ralph, the 1940's boxer, had a sister Lilian who married into the Dickasons Thanks Graham -------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Hilton-Taylor" <craig.hilton-taylor@sky.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:42 PM To: "MICHAELJ WATTRUS" <michaeljwattrus@btinternet.com>; <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Lookups - John Alexander RALPH > Hi Mike and Norma > > I don't know anything about John Alexander RALPH, but along the line I > inherited some notes on the RALPH family tree from my sister-in-laws > mother - she was a KNOTT and the KNOTT and RALPH lines are inter-linked. > > I am not researching the RALPH line at all, but seeing the correspondence > below prompted me to pull out these notes. > > There were two RALPH families in FORD's 1820 Settler Party who went out to > the Eastern Cape on the Weymouth in 1820: > > 1. Richard RALPH (b. abt 1790/91 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) married in abt > 1815 to Elizabeth MILLS (b. 1790). Richard and Elizabeth had 4 children: > Harriet (b. 1815/16), Samuel or Stephen (b. 1818 and di. shortly after > their > arrival in the Cape), Sarah and Agatha. So as the only son died young > there > are no male RALPH descendants from this line. > > 2. Joseph RALPH (b. 15 Jul 1792 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) a Baptist Lay > Preacher married in 1815 at Crockerton, Wiltshire to Elizabeth CURTIS (b. > ? > Crockerton, Wiltshire and died sometime between Dec 1827 and Dec 1834 in > the > Eastern Cape) > > I suspect that Richard and Joseph RALPH were most likely brothers - both > families came from Crockerton in Wiltshire, England. I haven't checked Sue > McKay's 1820 Settler correspondence - there may be more clues in that on > their relationship. > > Joseph RALPH and Elizabeth CURTIS had 5 children: Joseph (b. 1816, d. > 1837), > Mary (b. 1819, d. 21 Feb 1820 at sea), John (b. 1822), Rhoda (b. 1824), > and > Jemima (b. 1827). > > After Elizabeth died Joseph CURTIS married Carolina Margaretha PIETERSON > (or > PIETERSEN) in Dec 1834 in Somerset East. Joseph and Carolina had 11 > children: > i) Catherine RALPH (b. 13 Oct 1837 - Botha's Post, Cradock district) > ii) Hannah Palmer RALPH (b. 05 May 1839 - Botha's Post Cradock district) > ..... rest of her details in Mike's email below > iii) Jacoba RALPH (b. 09 Nov 1840 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > iv) Samuel Richard RALPH (b. 25 May 1842 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > v) Benjamin RALPH (b. 15 Dec 1844 - - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > vi) Peter RALPH (b. 26 Oct 1846 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > vii) James RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1848 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > viii) Caroline RALPH (b. 10 Mar 1851 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) > ix) Daniel RALPH (b. 23 Aug 1854 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) > x) William Walker RALPH (b. 17 Sep 1856 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > xi) Jesse RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1858 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > > > I have further details on Benjamin RALPH's descendants if anyone is > interested. > > The source for the information on Joseph RALPH's family is a typed note by > Harold James RALPH - Joseph's g.grandson and with handwritten annotations > by > Harold and presumably by Ann SMITH (nee KNOTT). > > There is a third RALPH 1820 Settler - John RALPH (b. abt 1799) in ERITH's > Party - I don't anything more about this line. > > I hope this info is of use to someone. > > Best wishes > Craig > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Norma Patrick > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:21 PM > To: MICHAELJ WATTRUS ; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Lookups - John Alexander RALPH > > The following was received from Viv Kymdell in response to my 2005 > Rootsweb > enquiry:. There seems to be two Ralph families, yours and mine, but dont > think they tie up. > > Cheers Norma > > Richard RALPH x Elizabeth MILLS > > [b] 1. Joseph RALPH x Carolina Margareta Peterson [I would have thought > Pietersen - Viv.] > [c] 1. Hanna Palmer RALPH *Palmietfontein, Somerset East 5.5.1839 + > Molteno 20.4.1919 # Molteno x Somerset East 17.2.1857 Alexander Daniel > Peter > JUBBER * Grahamstown 9.5.1828 + Molteno 7.3.1903 # Molteno. Alexander and > Hanna had 19 [nineteen] children. If you would like the children, just let > me know. > [His 1st wife is shown as Sarah [Loveridge] LOVE * Trappes Valley, Albany > 1.11.1834 + Bloemfontein, OFS 27.4.1852, Alexander and Sarah show 2 > children]. > > > Susanna Catharina Magdalena RALPH * Burgersdorp CP 18.5.1942 x 7.7.1962 > Pieter Hendrik HENNING * Cathcart 12.1.1941 son of Stephanus Johannes > Paulus > HENNING [1918 - 1988] and Edith Mary GREYLING [1917 1965] > Susanna and Pieter show 4 children. > > > > William Henry RALPH x Wesleyan Methodist Church, Queenstown Ester Sarah > MITCHLEY *Kimberley 9.10.1877 ~ Wesleyan Methodist Church, Kimberley > 29.10.1877, dau of Frederick James MITCHLEY and Elizabeth Ann RIDGARD > [1856 - 1899]. > There are no dates shown for William and no children shown, the notes > record > that his occupation is given as a platelayer, residing in Queenstown [Cape > Government Railways]. > > > > Lynette RALPH *27.7.1968 x Bloemfontein, OFS 2.4.1988 Matthys Johannes VAN > REENEN *23.12.1960, son of Jacob Johannes VAN REENEN [1931-1978] and Ester > DEINER > Lynette and Matthys show 1 dau. > > > John RALPH x abt 1761 PA. USA, Verena HUNSAKER * PA. USA 1740, parents > from > Switzerland. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Graham Sorry, I don't have anything on your RALPH's Best wishes Craig -----Original Message----- From: Graham Dickason Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 4:53 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Lookups - John Alexander RALPH Hi Craig, I would be interested in any Ralphs from Thaba "Nchu, Free State. Johnny Ralph, the 1940's boxer, had a sister Lilian who married into the Dickasons Thanks Graham -------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Hilton-Taylor" <craig.hilton-taylor@sky.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:42 PM To: "MICHAELJ WATTRUS" <michaeljwattrus@btinternet.com>; <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Lookups - John Alexander RALPH > Hi Mike and Norma > > I don't know anything about John Alexander RALPH, but along the line I > inherited some notes on the RALPH family tree from my sister-in-laws > mother - she was a KNOTT and the KNOTT and RALPH lines are inter-linked. > > I am not researching the RALPH line at all, but seeing the correspondence > below prompted me to pull out these notes. > > There were two RALPH families in FORD's 1820 Settler Party who went out to > the Eastern Cape on the Weymouth in 1820: > > 1. Richard RALPH (b. abt 1790/91 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) married in abt > 1815 to Elizabeth MILLS (b. 1790). Richard and Elizabeth had 4 children: > Harriet (b. 1815/16), Samuel or Stephen (b. 1818 and di. shortly after > their > arrival in the Cape), Sarah and Agatha. So as the only son died young > there > are no male RALPH descendants from this line. > > 2. Joseph RALPH (b. 15 Jul 1792 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) a Baptist Lay > Preacher married in 1815 at Crockerton, Wiltshire to Elizabeth CURTIS (b. > ? > Crockerton, Wiltshire and died sometime between Dec 1827 and Dec 1834 in > the > Eastern Cape) > > I suspect that Richard and Joseph RALPH were most likely brothers - both > families came from Crockerton in Wiltshire, England. I haven't checked Sue > McKay's 1820 Settler correspondence - there may be more clues in that on > their relationship. > > Joseph RALPH and Elizabeth CURTIS had 5 children: Joseph (b. 1816, d. > 1837), > Mary (b. 1819, d. 21 Feb 1820 at sea), John (b. 1822), Rhoda (b. 1824), > and > Jemima (b. 1827). > > After Elizabeth died Joseph CURTIS married Carolina Margaretha PIETERSON > (or > PIETERSEN) in Dec 1834 in Somerset East. Joseph and Carolina had 11 > children: > i) Catherine RALPH (b. 13 Oct 1837 - Botha's Post, Cradock district) > ii) Hannah Palmer RALPH (b. 05 May 1839 - Botha's Post Cradock district) > ..... rest of her details in Mike's email below > iii) Jacoba RALPH (b. 09 Nov 1840 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > iv) Samuel Richard RALPH (b. 25 May 1842 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > v) Benjamin RALPH (b. 15 Dec 1844 - - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > vi) Peter RALPH (b. 26 Oct 1846 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > vii) James RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1848 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > viii) Caroline RALPH (b. 10 Mar 1851 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) > ix) Daniel RALPH (b. 23 Aug 1854 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) > x) William Walker RALPH (b. 17 Sep 1856 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > xi) Jesse RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1858 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > > > I have further details on Benjamin RALPH's descendants if anyone is > interested. > > The source for the information on Joseph RALPH's family is a typed note by > Harold James RALPH - Joseph's g.grandson and with handwritten annotations > by > Harold and presumably by Ann SMITH (nee KNOTT). > > There is a third RALPH 1820 Settler - John RALPH (b. abt 1799) in ERITH's > Party - I don't anything more about this line. > > I hope this info is of use to someone. > > Best wishes > Craig >