Hi Elspeth, I managed to get a copy of the 'Readers Digest Atlas of Southern Africa' ....the copy I have was published in 1984. I was very surprised (and amazed) to find that there are thousands and thousands of farm names printed on the maps. I have succeeded in finding where many of my various family farms were situated just by looking at the maps. One does need a good magnifying glass, patience and a hi-liter.....I was brought up not to deface books, but I have to confess to having marked the various farms in different colours to indicate to me which branch of the family the farm had belonged to....it's a pity there are limited hi-lite colours available. One list member managed to find a copy for about £5 in New Zealand. My copy came from South Africa (I managed to find a copy through 'The Bookfinder General' but of course these days it is so much easier to find books on the net) was considerably more expensive. The postage alone was prohibitive as it is a very large book....to save money I got it posted by land rather than by air! Best wishes, Tombi Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elspeth Muirhead" <eamuirhead@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > Hi Cheri > > Mostly MULLIGAN and FITZGERALD - a SMITH connection with Post Retief - the > only farms I know of still in existence today. > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheri > Marshall > Sent: 24 October 2012 01:05 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > Hi Elspeth.. > Which family Names are you looking at... > Cheri > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Elspeth > Muirhead > Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012 8:31 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > Hi listers > > > > I'm in a hopeless tangle trying to find out more or less which parts of > the > Eastern Cape my family farmed in - it's suddenly got urgent as I want to > do > a trip to the Eastern Cape soon. I wonder if someone can explain how to > trace the 1891 map of Komgha district (I have a list of the farm numbers > and owners from on 2005 thread on this list but need to see whereabouts it > is). I am not sure what the boundaries of Komgha district were - my farm > is > listed under a few below 'near Gonubie River' - for practical purposes is > this vague info all I'll get anyway, and if so where does anyone know more > or less where this would refer to? > > > > I then would like to find out about farms in the Indwe / Dordrecht area in > the 1890s. My search of KAB showed farms being transferred from Wodehouse > district and Elliot district around 1919. Indwe was very new in 1890 - but > where would farms around 1894- 1900 or so be registered? Where and how > would > I look for this information? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Elspeth > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Tombi, Elspeth and other listers, You can download the trial (free) version of the map-viewing software OziExplorer at http://www.oziexplorer3.com/eng/oziexplorer.html If the program won't run and says it needs a file - Google that file and download it to the program file. Then go to http://www.madmappers.com/countries.php?TY=R where all the SA250k and SA50k topographic maps are available free (raster maps). These are the most detailed maps, those you normally buy at the Surveyor General's office. Farms are also marked on these maps. It takes a bit of bandwidth to download, but the result is a digital set of SA maps with no equivalent. Regards Paul LE ROUX Paarl LE ROUX x STEMMET MILNS x SANDS -----Original Message----- From: Tombi Peck [mailto:tombipeck@talktalk.net] Sent: 24 October 2012 11:09 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts Hi Elspeth, I managed to get a copy of the 'Readers Digest Atlas of Southern Africa' ....the copy I have was published in 1984. I was very surprised (and amazed) to find that there are thousands and thousands of farm names printed on the maps. I have succeeded in finding where many of my various family farms were situated just by looking at the maps. One does need a good magnifying glass, patience and a hi-liter.....I was brought up not to deface books, but I have to confess to having marked the various farms in different colours to indicate to me which branch of the family the farm had belonged to....it's a pity there are limited hi-lite colours available. One list member managed to find a copy for about £5 in New Zealand. My copy came from South Africa (I managed to find a copy through 'The Bookfinder General' but of course these days it is so much easier to find books on the net) was considerably more expensive. The postage alone was prohibitive as it is a very large book....to save money I got it posted by land rather than by air! Best wishes, Tombi Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elspeth Muirhead" <eamuirhead@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > Hi Cheri > > Mostly MULLIGAN and FITZGERALD - a SMITH connection with Post Retief - the > only farms I know of still in existence today. > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheri > Marshall > Sent: 24 October 2012 01:05 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > Hi Elspeth.. > Which family Names are you looking at... > Cheri > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Elspeth > Muirhead > Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012 8:31 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > Hi listers > > > > I'm in a hopeless tangle trying to find out more or less which parts of > the > Eastern Cape my family farmed in - it's suddenly got urgent as I want to > do > a trip to the Eastern Cape soon. I wonder if someone can explain how to > trace the 1891 map of Komgha district (I have a list of the farm numbers > and owners from on 2005 thread on this list but need to see whereabouts it > is). I am not sure what the boundaries of Komgha district were - my farm > is > listed under a few below 'near Gonubie River' - for practical purposes is > this vague info all I'll get anyway, and if so where does anyone know more > or less where this would refer to? > > > > I then would like to find out about farms in the Indwe / Dordrecht area in > the 1890s. My search of KAB showed farms being transferred from Wodehouse > district and Elliot district around 1919. Indwe was very new in 1890 - but > where would farms around 1894- 1900 or so be registered? Where and how > would > I look for this information? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Elspeth > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Paul, Unfortunately I have a very elderly computer and wouldn't like to try to download anything into her (especially a large file). I have to say I'm also old enough to enjoy actual books. I'm not too old not to enjoy looking at all the houses still standing which are to be found on Search.... It was amazing seeing how the house we lived in at 31 Hillbrow Street, Berea, Johannesburg looks now....it looked nothing like this when we lived there in 1973. Quite fun being able to walk up and down the road! Best wishes, Tombi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul le Roux" <paultjie@mweb.co.za> To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts Dear Tombi, Elspeth and other listers, You can download the trial (free) version of the map-viewing software OziExplorer at http://www.oziexplorer3.com/eng/oziexplorer.html If the program won't run and says it needs a file - Google that file and download it to the program file. Then go to http://www.madmappers.com/countries.php?TY=R where all the SA250k and SA50k topographic maps are available free (raster maps). These are the most detailed maps, those you normally buy at the Surveyor General's office. Farms are also marked on these maps. It takes a bit of bandwidth to download, but the result is a digital set of SA maps with no equivalent. Regards Paul LE ROUX Paarl LE ROUX x STEMMET MILNS x SANDS -----Original Message----- From: Tombi Peck [mailto:tombipeck@talktalk.net] Sent: 24 October 2012 11:09 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts Hi Elspeth, I managed to get a copy of the 'Readers Digest Atlas of Southern Africa' ....the copy I have was published in 1984. I was very surprised (and amazed) to find that there are thousands and thousands of farm names printed on the maps. I have succeeded in finding where many of my various family farms were situated just by looking at the maps. One does need a good magnifying glass, patience and a hi-liter.....I was brought up not to deface books, but I have to confess to having marked the various farms in different colours to indicate to me which branch of the family the farm had belonged to....it's a pity there are limited hi-lite colours available. One list member managed to find a copy for about £5 in New Zealand. My copy came from South Africa (I managed to find a copy through 'The Bookfinder General' but of course these days it is so much easier to find books on the net) was considerably more expensive. The postage alone was prohibitive as it is a very large book....to save money I got it posted by land rather than by air! Best wishes, Tombi Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elspeth Muirhead" <eamuirhead@telkomsa.net> To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > Hi Cheri > > Mostly MULLIGAN and FITZGERALD - a SMITH connection with Post Retief - the > only farms I know of still in existence today. > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheri > Marshall > Sent: 24 October 2012 01:05 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > Hi Elspeth.. > Which family Names are you looking at... > Cheri > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Elspeth > Muirhead > Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012 8:31 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > Hi listers > > > > I'm in a hopeless tangle trying to find out more or less which parts of > the > Eastern Cape my family farmed in - it's suddenly got urgent as I want to > do > a trip to the Eastern Cape soon. I wonder if someone can explain how to > trace the 1891 map of Komgha district (I have a list of the farm numbers > and owners from on 2005 thread on this list but need to see whereabouts it > is). I am not sure what the boundaries of Komgha district were - my farm > is > listed under a few below 'near Gonubie River' - for practical purposes is > this vague info all I'll get anyway, and if so where does anyone know more > or less where this would refer to? > > > > I then would like to find out about farms in the Indwe / Dordrecht area in > the 1890s. My search of KAB showed farms being transferred from Wodehouse > district and Elliot district around 1919. Indwe was very new in 1890 - but > where would farms around 1894- 1900 or so be registered? Where and how > would > I look for this information? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Elspeth > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paul This is exiting news, thanks. I have accessed the site 'madmappers' as per your link but cannot find any way of downloading the maps, please advise. Thanks Malcolm On 2012/10/24 06:17 PM, Paul le Roux wrote: > Dear Tombi, Elspeth and other listers, > > You can download the trial (free) version of the map-viewing software > OziExplorer at http://www.oziexplorer3.com/eng/oziexplorer.html > If the program won't run and says it needs a file - Google that file and > download it to the program file. > > Then go to http://www.madmappers.com/countries.php?TY=R where all the SA250k > and SA50k topographic maps are available free (raster maps). These are the > most detailed maps, those you normally buy at the Surveyor General's office. > Farms are also marked on these maps. > > It takes a bit of bandwidth to download, but the result is a digital set of > SA maps with no equivalent. > > Regards > Paul LE ROUX > Paarl > LE ROUX x STEMMET > MILNS x SANDS > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tombi Peck [mailto:tombipeck@talktalk.net] > Sent: 24 October 2012 11:09 > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > Hi Elspeth, > I managed to get a copy of the 'Readers Digest Atlas of Southern Africa' > ....the copy I have was published in 1984. > > I was very surprised (and amazed) to find that there are thousands and > thousands of farm names printed on the maps. > > I have succeeded in finding where many of my various family farms were > situated just by looking at the maps. One does need a good magnifying glass, > patience and a hi-liter.....I was brought up not to deface books, but I have > to confess to having marked the various farms in different colours to > indicate to me which branch of the family the farm had belonged to....it's a > pity there are limited hi-lite colours available. > > One list member managed to find a copy for about £5 in New Zealand. My copy > came from South Africa (I managed to find a copy through 'The Bookfinder > General' but of course these days it is so much easier to find books on the > net) was considerably more expensive. The postage alone was prohibitive as > it is a very large book....to save money I got it posted by land rather than > by air! > > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elspeth Muirhead" <eamuirhead@telkomsa.net> > To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:47 AM > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > >> Hi Cheri >> >> Mostly MULLIGAN and FITZGERALD - a SMITH connection with Post Retief - the >> only farms I know of still in existence today. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheri >> Marshall >> Sent: 24 October 2012 01:05 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts >> >> Hi Elspeth.. >> Which family Names are you looking at... >> Cheri >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Elspeth >> Muirhead >> Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012 8:31 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts >> >> Hi listers >> >> >> >> I'm in a hopeless tangle trying to find out more or less which parts of >> the >> Eastern Cape my family farmed in - it's suddenly got urgent as I want to >> do >> a trip to the Eastern Cape soon. I wonder if someone can explain how to >> trace the 1891 map of Komgha district (I have a list of the farm numbers >> and owners from on 2005 thread on this list but need to see whereabouts it >> is). I am not sure what the boundaries of Komgha district were - my farm >> is >> listed under a few below 'near Gonubie River' - for practical purposes is >> this vague info all I'll get anyway, and if so where does anyone know more >> or less where this would refer to? >> >> >> >> I then would like to find out about farms in the Indwe / Dordrecht area in >> the 1890s. My search of KAB showed farms being transferred from Wodehouse >> district and Elliot district around 1919. Indwe was very new in 1890 - but >> where would farms around 1894- 1900 or so be registered? Where and how >> would >> I look for this information? >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> Elspeth >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- */Malcolm Brown/* Phone: +27 33 343 1892 Mobile: +27 82 901 9047 Fax: +27 86 671 7921 20 Hillary Road, Hilton, Kwazulu-Natal PO Box 1013, Hilton, 3245, South Africa *Think about the environment! Do not print this email unless necessary. Thank you. *Confidentiality Note:* This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and legally privileged information. 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