Nothing I am afraid Christine Kind regards Nikki -----Original Message----- From: Christine & Craig Weaver Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 2:34 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE Digest, Vol 7, Issue 345 Hi Nikki, Hope you are well! I saw someone requested SA Police, well my Great Grandfather JACOB JACOBUS VAN DER MERWE was in the Cape Police during the Boer War, I wonder if there is anything about him?? Thanks for your help! Christine Weaver (Bell) Sent from my iPod On 2012-10-16, at 8:10 AM, south-africa-eastern-cape-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: HOGG Cape Civil Service List 1900 (Marielle Ford) > 2. Re: Alan Duthie BOWKER and Ethel Atherstone Marriage > transcription Middleton 1909 (Ian Currie) > 3. Re: HOGG Cape Civil Service List 1900 (Gail R?thlin) > 4. CARLIN Cape Civil Service List 1900 (Gail R?thlin) > 5. Re: British SA Police (Faraway Gardner-Brown) > 6. EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD, 16.12.1986 (Carol Beneke) > 7. Re: CARLIN Cape Civil Service List 1900 (Nikki) > 8. Re: British SA Police (Elspeth Muirhead) > 9. Re: British SA Police MURRAY and WHITE (Nikki) > 10. Re: British SA Police (Shani Lamb (SGLA)) > 11. Re: BSAP Corporal Frederick FITZGERALD (Nikki) > 12. Re: British SA Police (Nikki) > 13. Re: British SA Police MURRAY and WHITE (Faraway Gardner-Brown) > 14. Re: BSAP Corporal Frederick FITZGERALD (Elspeth Muirhead) > 15. Re: CARLIN Cape Civil Service List 1900 (Gail R?thlin) > 16. Re: Cape Civil Service List 1900 (shirley paladin) > Hi Gail, > > Who is this one? I have a strays tree as my ancestor was a MOODIE Settler > named John HOGG. > > Rgds > Marielle > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gail Röthlin" <mgroth@sunrise.ch> > To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:43 AM > Subject: [ZA-EC] HOGG Cape Civil Service List 1900 > > >> Nikki, >> Could you please check for a Mr HOGG, in the Forestry Dept, I think. >> >> Thanks, >> Gail > > > > Thanks Nikki > > Marielle did send it to me off list, but thansk for posting it for others > to see too. > > Kind regards > Ian Currie > > > On 2012/10/16 08:22 AM, Nikki wrote: >> Hi again all >> >> Did a little googling and found this transcription sent by Marielle to >> the >> IB list way back when. >> >> Kind regards >> Nikki >> >> From: "Marielle Ford" < marielle@intekom.co.za> >> Subject: Middleton BMD's >> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 20:21:02 +0200 >> MARRIAGE INDEX: ST MICHAEL AND ALL ANGELS, MIDDLETON >> >> No.,Date,Groom,Age,Occupation,Abode,Bride,Age,Occupation,Abode >> ,,,,,,,,, >> 1,26-05-1894,Duncan Fitzwilliam OGILVIE,Full,Bachelor - Manager,,Caroline >> Elizabeth CLOETE,Full,Spinster,Waterfall >> 2,06-04-1898,Robert Ainslie HOCKLY,Full,Bachelor,"Cullen-dale, >> Bedford",Emma >> Clare BOWKER,,,Olifants Kloof >> 3,22-04-1901,Walter Edwin ATHERSTONE,31,Bachelor - Lawyer,"Eland, >> Albany",Elizabeth White DONOVAN,35,Widow ,"Ellinde, Albany" >> 4,30-12-1905,Edgar Napier RANKIN,35,Station Master ,Grahams-town,Elsie >> Helena Gertrude CLOETE,19,Spinster,Carlisle Bridge >> 5,10-03-1909,Alan Duthie BOWKER,29,Bachelor - Farmer,"Signal Kop, >> Albany",Ethel ATHERSTONE,21,Spinster,Ellinde >> 6,22-06-1910,Evelyn Henry Bowker CLOETE,36,Bachelor - >> Farmer,Waterfall,Ethel >> Maud MATTHEWS,22,Spinster,"Wynberg, Cape Colony" >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Craig Hilton-Taylor >> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:37 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Alan Duthie BOWKER >> >> Hi Ian, Nikki and Marielle >> >> It certainly looks like there is mounting evidence that Alan Duthie >> BOWKER >> married Ethel ATHERSTONE and not Ethel Atherstone HILTON-BARBER. >> >> Just shows how easy it is to be lead astray and the need to cross-check >> all >> information very carefully, especially if it is not well-sourced. >> >> Many apologies to Tombi and any others who corrected their data to what I >> said. >> >> The collective breadth, depth and sharing of knowledge in our genie >> community always amazes me. >> >> Thanks to all >> Craig >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ian Currie >> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:44 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Alan Duthie BOWKER >> >> Hi Craig, Tombi and Nikki >> >> There is indeed some controversy about exactly who the wife of Alan >> Duthie BOWKER was. However, although I cannot prove it 100%, as I have >> not seen a marriage certificate yet, I think that he married Ethel >> ATHERSTONE, and not Ethel Atherstone HILTON-BARBER. My reasoning is as >> follows: >> >> Ethel Atherstone HILTON-BARBER, it would appear, from her tombstone, >> never married, and only died in 1949. See >> http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1314810. So she clearly >> did not die before Alan Duthie BOWKER, and her tombstone still gives her >> maiden name. I have been unable to find a tombstone for Ethel Atherstone >> BOWKER. The only Ethel BOWKER listed on eGGSA Gravestones is Ethel >> Patricia Southey BOWKER, nee STIRK >> (http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1642925) >> >> Like, Tombi, I did not keep references when I started out (bad,bad,bad), >> but I have Ethel ATHERSTONE's date of birth as 5 June 1878, and that she >> is the daughter of Walter ATHERSTONE and Mary Ann Hornsby BLAKE. There >> are photographs of these two people in my great-grandmother's >> (Williamina CURRIE, nee BOWKER) photo album (see photo no. 90 here - >> http://1820settlers.com/modules.php?name=gallery2&g2_itemId=2627&g2_page=5). >> >> As you say, Craig, there are so many cross-linkages in these families >> that it can become very confusing. >> >> I would be very keen to hear what other listers think, as Alan Duthie >> BOWKER was my grandmother's (Olive CURRIE, nee BOWKER) brother. >> >> Kind regards >> Ian Currie >> >> >> On 2012/10/14 11:34 AM, Craig Hilton-Taylor wrote: >>> Hi Tombi >>> >>> Many thanks for all the extra details, that helped fill a few gaps. The >>> one >>> big difference I have concerns: >>> >>> 5. Alan Duthie BOWKER born abt Feb 1879 Graham's Town, Albany Eastern >>> Cape >>> of Good Hope died 24 March 1918 Flanders during WW1 married Ethel Mary >>> ATHERSTONE born May 1881, Graham's Town, Albany, Eastern Cape of Good >>> Hope >>> died 11 August 1963 Johannesburg, Transvaal, Republic of South Africa. >>> >>> I have Alan's wife as Ethel Atherstone HILTON-BARBER (born 31 Mar 1878 >>> in >>> the Cape and died BEF 1918). Ethel was the daughter of Hilton >>> HILTON-BARBER >>> (1842-1928) and Fanny ATHERSTONE. Alan and Ethel married on 10 Mar 1909 >>> in >>> St Michael's and All Angel's Church, Middleton, Cape, South Africa. >>> >>> In support of this, if you look at the Memorial Inscription to Alan on >>> the >>> Commonwealth Graves Commission website >>> (http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/309828/BOWKER,%20ALAN%20DUTHIE) >>> it reads: >>> >>> "In Memory of >>> Lieutenant ALAN DUTHIE BOWKER >>> >>> 4th Regt., South African Infantry >>> who died age 38 >>> on 24 March 1918 >>> Son of Miles and Elizabeth Mary BOWKER; husband of the late Ethel >>> Atherstone >>> BOWKER. >>> Remembered with honour >>> HEM FARM MILITARY CEMETERY, HEM-MONACU" >>> >>> So his wife's 2nd name was Atherstone, and she had died before Alan was >>> killed in the Battle of the Somme. >>> >>> >>> >>> There are so many cross linkages between these families and the same >>> names >>> keep recurring hence it is very easy to get the wrong people linked up. >>> So >>> I >>> am not sure which of us is correct - can anyone else help? >>> >>> Best wishes >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 >> 08:34:00 >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 >> 08:34:00 >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> > > > Marielle, > He was one Walter HOGG formerly of Selkirk, Scotland and only arrived in > the > 1880s. > Rgds, > Gail > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Marielle Ford > Sent: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 09:46 > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HOGG Cape Civil Service List 1900 > > Hi Gail, > > Who is this one? I have a strays tree as my ancestor was a MOODIE Settler > named John HOGG. > > Rgds > Marielle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gail Röthlin" <mgroth@sunrise.ch> > To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:43 AM > Subject: [ZA-EC] HOGG Cape Civil Service List 1900 > > >> Nikki, >> Could you please check for a Mr HOGG, in the Forestry Dept, I think. >> >> Thanks, >> Gail > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > Nikki, > Could you please check for a Joseph CARLIN also perhaps in the Forestry > Dept. > > Thanks, > Gail > > > > Hi Nikki > > I'm also trying to trace a Scotsman - please would you look out for any > Murray or White entries? > > Many thanks > Faraway > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nikki > Sent: 15 October 2012 19:34 > To: Marielle Ford; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > No Mallen I am afraid. If I pick up any other Scotsmen I will message Kind > regards Nikki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marielle Ford > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:13 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Hi Nikki > > Any mention of Scotsmen who were in the BSAP, esp. MALLEN? > > Thank you. > Marielle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nikki" <alnic@polka.co.za> > To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:06 PM > Subject: [ZA-EC] Randolph Cosby NESBITT > > >> Hi all >> Anyone researching NESBITTS? >> Randolph Colby born Queenstown. There is a section pertaining to him in >> the book Men Who Made Rhodesia, British South Africa Company’s Police by >> Beddy. If anyone would like the onfo i will type it up for you. >> Kind regards >> Nikki >> Sedgefield >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. > > Port Elizabeth, Tuesday, December 16, 1986. > > > > BIRTHS. > > BANCROFT. – To Shaun and Charmaine, a daughter Tenielle, Friday, December > 12, 1986 at Sandford. > > FIELD. – To Trevor and Thea (nee DU PLESSIS, twin daughters born on > Monday, December 15, 1986 at Sandford. Sisters for Samantha and Natalie. > > KINNELL. - To James and Sue, a daughter, Megan, born Sunday December 14, > 1986 at Sandford. A sister for Andrew. > > > > ENGAGEMENTS. > > FRENCH. – BOSHOFF. Ivan and Eunice are pleased to announce the engagement > of their eldest daughter, Linda to Martin, elder son of Keith and Anne > FRENCH of Cape Town on December 13, 1986. > > KRUGER. – SCOTT. Rev and Mrs D. SCOTT have pleasure in announcing the > engagement of their eldest daughter Clara SCOTT, to the only son of Mr and > Mrs J. KRUGER, John Kelvin KRUGER. > > THOMPSON. – LORD. Stewart and Ann THOMPSON have pleasure in announcing > the engagement of their son, Peter to Sandie, daughter of Cecil and Val > LORD of Morningside. > > VAN DER MERWE. – MARRYATT. Ron and Myrna have pleasure in announcing the > engagement of their only daughter Michelle, to Paul, younger son of Tony > and Eva, on Monday, December 15, 1986. > > > > MARRIAGES. > > ANDERSEN. – VAN DER MERWE. Harry and Yvonne are pleased to announce the > marriage of their eldest daughter, Shantal, to Garth, only son of Albert > and Joy, Saturday, December 13, 1986. > > > > WEDDING ANNIVERSARIES. > > HARRISON. – Roy and Norma. Congratulations Mom and Dad on your 25th > Wedding Anniversary. Love Debi, Mike and Tony. > > REED. – KIERNAN. John and Rose, married on December 16, 1936 in Monastery > Hillcrest, Pretoria. > > > > DEATHS. > > ABERNATHY. – Pauline. Mourned by her children Rosille, John, Vaughan, > Charmaine and grandchildren. Cremation private. > > AVELY. – Betty, passed away on Sunday, December 14, 1986. Mother and > grandmother to Audrey, Gloria, Michelle, Andrew, Anthony (in George), > Robert, Colleen, Michael and Sharri (in Bulawayo). > > BATTS. – Jean Lynette (nee BAXTER), passed away on Sunday, December 14, > 1986. Wife of Cedric and mother of Mandy; daughter of Iris, and sister of > Alan. Mourned by Mom, Alan, Alice and Donna. > > HALL. – Percy Raymond, passed away at Leicester on Sunday, December 14, > 1986 aged 76 years. Mourned by Nielson and Denise; Susan, René, Stewart. > Gladys, Cheryl, Roger, Shaun and families. > > RUSSEL. – Gloria, my wife and our mother, passed away December 11, 1986. > Mourned by Owen, Cathy and Janet, daughter-in-law Venna and Doug. > > > > FUNERAL NOTICES. > > BATTS. – Jean Lynette (nee BAXTER), passed away on Sunday, December 14, > 1986. Wife of Cedric and mother of Mandy, family and friends. Service will > take place at the Walmer Methodist Church, tomorrow (Wednesday), December > 17, 1986 at 11 am. Private cremation. > > > > IN MEMORIAM. > > BOUAH. – Kate, passed away 2 years ago today. Remembered by her daughter > Jaabira and Ebrahim and family. > > FROST. – Phillip, passed away December 16, 1979. Remembered by his wife > Ivy; Rodney, Eleanor, Beverley and Grant. > > GEORGE. – James, passed away December 16, 1982. Remembered by his wife > Eileen and daughter Heather. > > JANSEN. – Ronald, passed away December 14, 1984. Remembered by his brother > Gordon and Mona and children Jacqueline and Annelize. > > KEYTER. – Iris Muriel. From children and grandchildren. > > OLIVIER. – G.R.J. (Ollie) passed away December 16, 1983. Remembered by his > wife Marjorie, children Antoinette, Lucelle, Ulrica, sons-in-law and > grandchildren; Dennis, Lavona and family’ > > PITTAWAY. – Gertrude, passed away December 16. Remembered by Alf and > Nellie (Bloemfontein); all your friends; Max and Joe and grandchildren > Michael, Ethel, Janice, Athol and great grandmother of Timothy and > Caroline; Connie, Bonny, Wendy, David and Shirley. > > PLAATJIES. – Martin, passed away December 16, three years ago. Remembered > by his sisters and brothers. > > > > > Transcribed by > Carol BENEKE nee STEWART > Port Elizabeth, South Africa. > 083 482 1482 > carme@iafrica.com > ________________________ > Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE > and related families. > > Facebook group - > https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/ > Hi Gail > There is no Joseph But there is > > William CARLIN who was a Forester in Alexandria P.E. First appointment > date > Jul 1 1885. Appointed to this post Sep 1 1894 at a salry of 100 pounds > p.a. > > Kind regards > Nikki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Röthlin > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:40 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] CARLIN Cape Civil Service List 1900 > > > Nikki, > Could you please check for a Joseph CARLIN also perhaps in the Forestry > Dept. > > Thanks, > Gail > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > Hi Nikki > > Not sure if you are doing general look ups for people. If you are would > you mind looking up a Fitzgerald - I've forgotten his first name. He was > with the BSAP and was later killed in the Shangani Patrol. I've not been > able to find other info on him tho. > > Thank you. > > Elspeth > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Faraway Gardner-Brown > Sent: 16 October 2012 11:22 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Hi Nikki > > I'm also trying to trace a Scotsman - please would you look out for any > Murray or White entries? > > Many thanks > Faraway > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nikki > Sent: 15 October 2012 19:34 > To: Marielle Ford; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > No Mallen I am afraid. If I pick up any other Scotsmen I will message Kind > regards Nikki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marielle Ford > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:13 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Hi Nikki > > Any mention of Scotsmen who were in the BSAP, esp. MALLEN? > > Thank you. > Marielle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nikki" <alnic@polka.co.za> > To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:06 PM > Subject: [ZA-EC] Randolph Cosby NESBITT > > >> Hi all >> Anyone researching NESBITTS? >> Randolph Colby born Queenstown. There is a section pertaining to him >> in the book Men Who Made Rhodesia, British South Africa Company s >> Police by Beddy. If anyone would like the onfo i will type it up for you. >> Kind regards >> Nikki >> Sedgefield >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Hi Faraway > > 2 MURRAYs > K.A > Charles S. > > 6 WHITEs > > C.M. > Frederick James > J. > Stanley > T.W. > W. de L. > > If any of them look to be yours just shout for the info. > Kind regards > Nikki > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Faraway Gardner-Brown > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:21 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Hi Nikki > > I'm also trying to trace a Scotsman - please would you look out for any > Murray or White entries? > > Many thanks > Faraway > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nikki > Sent: 15 October 2012 19:34 > To: Marielle Ford; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > No Mallen I am afraid. If I pick up any other Scotsmen I will message Kind > regards Nikki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marielle Ford > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:13 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Hi Nikki > > Any mention of Scotsmen who were in the BSAP, esp. MALLEN? > > Thank you. > Marielle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nikki" <alnic@polka.co.za> > To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:06 PM > Subject: [ZA-EC] Randolph Cosby NESBITT > > >> Hi all >> Anyone researching NESBITTS? >> Randolph Colby born Queenstown. There is a section pertaining to him in >> the book Men Who Made Rhodesia, British South Africa Company’s Police by >> Beddy. If anyone would like the onfo i will type it up for you. >> Kind regards >> Nikki >> Sedgefield >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > Any listings for B LONGBOTTOM ? > > Hi Elspeth > > Here he is! > > Kind regards > Nikki > > Extract from Men Who Made Rhodesia , The British South Africa Company's > Police by A S Hickman 1960 > > > "Corporal FITZGERALD, Frederick (later Captain) > A native of Kingwilliamstown, Cape, described by his friend, Cpl. C.H. F. > DIVINE, as "long and lean with a charming smile, a good shot and a > splendid > horseman....the very best type of colonial soldier", and by Capt. A.G. > Leonard, his commanding officer, as a colonial of Irish descent "fiery, > impulsive, yet full of initiative". > > He attested on 1/3/1890 and served in E.Troop at Macloutsie, where a group > photograph taken there in 1890 shows him seated outside the corporal's > mess, > a well-built figure with a slight moustache, wearing smasher hat, > grey-back > shirt, breeches and top-boots. In August, 1890, he was in charge of horses > grazing 8 miles from Macloutsie. In December, 1890, he was sent by capt. > Leonard from Fort Tuli on a reconnaissance patrol to look for a reported > Matabele Impi at the junction of Macloutie and Shashi Rivers. > > On 13/12/1890 E.Troop, on its march from Macloutsie to Fort Tuli to > relieve > D.Troop, halted at Semalale, which was then in charge of Cpl. C.H.F. > DIVINE, > who asked his troop officer, Leonard, for a transfer to D.Troop, as he did > not wish to remain on base duties. Leonard agreed, but pointed out that he > had no N.C.O. to relieve him, as due to the shortage of native transport > drivers, he was using FITZGERALD to drive a wagon and span of sixteen > oxen. > Divine made out that he could do the same and thus was relieved by > FITZGERALD, but would never have succeeded except for the latter's help, > inspanning for him and giving him some tips which enabled him to reach > Fort > Tuli. > > FITZGERALD was promoted to sergeant on 22/5/1891, and was at FortTuli in > June of the same year at the time of the anticiapted Boer incursion from > the > Transvaal under Col. Ignatius Ferreira. > He became a sergeant-major at Tuli Depot on 15/9/1891, and took his > discharge on 11/12/1891 > > As an illustration of his sportsmanship, Divine relates that he spent a > few > days at Fort Tuli as FITZGERALDS guest. They rode out on a Sunday morning > after buck, FITGERALD suddenly dismounted, and came to the aim at two > splendid roan antelope about 400 yards away. But he held his fire to wait > for Divine, remarking, "Sorry Charlie, old man, its your shot". Divine > missed and the buck diappeared, but he was tremendously impressed by > FITZGERALD's treatment of him as a guest. > > Later, as a sub-inspector, he was in charge of the Mashonaland Mounted > Police at Fort Victoria, where in 1893 he assisted Major Allan Wilson in > training, drilling and equipping the Victoria Rangers, of which as a > captain, he commanded No.1 Troop in the Matabele War, 1893. near the > Shangani River on the march into Matabeleland he went out with a raiding > party on 24/10/1893, and sent in 1,000 head of cattle and 900 sheep and > goats. At dark he rode into camp with Capt. H.J. Borrow ; they breported > that they had seen no Matabele but had burnt some kraals. He is reported > to > have done excellent work throughout the campaign and was mentioned by > Major > P.W. Forbes, commanding the column, for special services. > > On 17/11/1893, with Capt. Napier, 100 men, a maxim, and a 7-pounder, he > was > left in charge of the L.M.S. Mission at Emhlangeni ( Inyati) when the main > column moved on. Later he rejoined it, and on 4/12/1893 was killed in > action > with the Shangani Patrol. > The bronze figure of FITZGERALD on the Shangani Memorial at World's View > is > said to be an exact likeness." > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elspeth Muirhead > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:02 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Hi Nikki > > Not sure if you are doing general look ups for people. If you are would > you > mind looking up a Fitzgerald - I've forgotten his first name. He was with > the BSAP and was later killed in the Shangani Patrol. I've not been able > to > find other info on him tho. > > Thank you. > > Elspeth > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Faraway > Gardner-Brown > Sent: 16 October 2012 11:22 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Hi Nikki > > I'm also trying to trace a Scotsman - please would you look out for any > Murray or White entries? > > Many thanks > Faraway > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nikki > Sent: 15 October 2012 19:34 > To: Marielle Ford; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > No Mallen I am afraid. If I pick up any other Scotsmen I will message Kind > regards Nikki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marielle Ford > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:13 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Hi Nikki > > Any mention of Scotsmen who were in the BSAP, esp. MALLEN? > > Thank you. > Marielle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nikki" <alnic@polka.co.za> > To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:06 PM > Subject: [ZA-EC] Randolph Cosby NESBITT > > >> Hi all >> Anyone researching NESBITTS? >> Randolph Colby born Queenstown. There is a section pertaining to him >> in the book Men Who Made Rhodesia, British South Africa Company s >> Police by Beddy. If anyone would like the onfo i will type it up for you. >> Kind regards >> Nikki >> Sedgefield >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > Sorry Shani, Nothing > Kind regards > Nikki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shani Lamb (SGLA) > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 1:18 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Any listings for B LONGBOTTOM ? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > Hi Nikki > > Very many thanks for your swift reply - sadly I'm chasing an R S Murray > White aka White aka Murray. > Thank you anyway > Faraway > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nikki > Sent: 16 October 2012 12:05 > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police MURRAY and WHITE > > Hi Faraway > > 2 MURRAYs > K.A > Charles S. > > 6 WHITEs > > C.M. > Frederick James > J. > Stanley > T.W. > W. de L. > > If any of them look to be yours just shout for the info. > Kind regards > Nikki > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Faraway Gardner-Brown > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:21 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Hi Nikki > > I'm also trying to trace a Scotsman - please would you look out for any > Murray or White entries? > > Many thanks > Faraway > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nikki > Sent: 15 October 2012 19:34 > To: Marielle Ford; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > No Mallen I am afraid. If I pick up any other Scotsmen I will message Kind > regards Nikki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marielle Ford > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 8:13 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] British SA Police > > Hi Nikki > > Any mention of Scotsmen who were in the BSAP, esp. MALLEN? > > Thank you. > Marielle > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nikki" <alnic@polka.co.za> > To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:06 PM > Subject: [ZA-EC] Randolph Cosby NESBITT > > >> Hi all >> Anyone researching NESBITTS? >> Randolph Colby born Queenstown. There is a section pertaining to him >> in the book Men Who Made Rhodesia, British South Africa Company’s >> Police by Beddy. If anyone would like the onfo i will type it up for you. >> Kind regards >> Nikki >> Sedgefield >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Nikkie, thank you so much! > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nikki > Sent: 16 October 2012 01:43 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] BSAP Corporal Frederick FITZGERALD > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5333 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 08:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Spot on, thanks Nikki. > Gail > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nikki > Sent: Dienstag, 16. Oktober 2012 12:55 > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] CARLIN Cape Civil Service List 1900 > > Hi Gail > There is no Joseph But there is > > William CARLIN who was a Forester in Alexandria P.E. First appointment > date > Jul 1 1885. Appointed to this post Sep 1 1894 at a salry of 100 pounds > p.a. > > Kind regards > Nikki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gail Röthlin > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 10:40 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] CARLIN Cape Civil Service List 1900 > > > Nikki, > Could you please check for a Joseph CARLIN also perhaps in the Forestry > Dept. > > Thanks, > Gail > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5334 - Release Date: 10/15/12 > 21:22:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Hi Nikki > I would appreciate it if you could check for HARVEY and HOPE. > Thanks > Shirley > > On 13 October 2012 01:45, Scott and Alison <sadrysdale@bigpond.com> wrote: >> Nikki, would you mind looking for Milnes and Drysdales >> >> Thank you >> >> Alison >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Nikki >> Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2012 12:23 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Cape Civil Service List 1900 >> >> Hi Rose >> Nothing I am afraid. Sorry >> Kind regards >> Nikki >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rose McArthur >> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 3:15 PM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ZA-EC] Cape Civil Service List 1900 >> >> >> Hi Nikki, >> I would be most grateful if you would check to see if there is a Malcolm >> MCARTHUR (MC ARTHUR) in the list. He worked for the Cape Midlands >> Railways >> and retired in 1904. >> Many thanks, >> Rose >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5325 - Release Date: 10/11/12 >> 20:34:00 >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5325 - Release Date: 10/11/12 >> 20:34:00 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE list administrator, send an email > to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE mailing list, send an > email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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