Hi, I've been away so only seen this post now. Is your Mary Ann SMITH born Post Retief, the daughter of John Joseph SMITH of the Winterberg? I think so. Regards, elspeth -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Marshall Sent: 03 December 2012 01:55 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Annie Lucas and Marianne/Marion?amaryann SMITH Hi Jenn Thanks. Absolutely correct as I have your Llloyd info as source.but did not have the full baptism details so thanks for that. The problem is that Carol has a Maryann Josephine SMITH born 1843 or 1845 as the husband of Andries Stephanus BENECKE and it cant be "our" one as she dies 1925 ..............We have two women of the same name and we are trying to find the second one probably the daughter of Annie LUCAS X SMITH. These SMITHS>>>>>aaargh! cheri -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Graham and Jennifer Lloyd Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2012 5:05 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Annie Lucas and Marianne/Marion?amaryann SMITH Hi there According to my notes, Mary Ann Josephine Smith who married Thomas Henry James Lloyd, was born 27 June 1845 Blinkwater, Cape Colony and died 23 June 1925. She was baptized in the Anglican Church, Post Retief, Winterberg. Cheers Jenn Graham & Jennifer Lloyd [Genealogical & Historical Research] 2 Constantia Court River's End Road Plumstead 7800 Cape Town South Africa Tel: +0027 (0)21 7974875 Mobile: 0824037343 email: lacey@yebo.co.za www.southafricanfamily.com I'm not stuck, I'm Ancestrally challenged Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass It's about learning to dance in the rain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheri Marshall" <cherim@tpg.com.au> To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Cc: <south-africa-immigrants-british@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 1:34 AM Subject: [ZA-EC] Annie Lucas and Marianne/Marion?amaryann SMITH > Hi List > > I have been talking to Carol Benecke as we have been trying to solve the > puzzle of Marianne/Maryanne/Maria Anne/Marion Josephine SMITH as the one > I have on my SMITH tree...Mary Anne Josephine born 27 june 1845 is the one > who married Henry Thomas James LLOYD. She cannot be the same M J SMITH > who married A J BENECKE in Uitenhage in 1871. My one was happily married > and signed his DN in 1912 so it is obviously a different > Maryanne/marrianne/Maria/ Marie Ann....Josephine SMITH....born circa 1843. > I hoping that someone will be able to help us here.....Is there SKS who > can pull this doc ?...someone going to the archives this week as to find > her link we have to check that Annie LUCAS was married to > Stephen(William?) SMITH and that they had a daughter born circa 1843 or > possible a bit later...or alternatively someone who has the DN for Stephen > SMITH (her husband)? Annie LUCAS and STEPHEN SMITH are listed as parents > of Maryanne Josephine SMITH but is possible that the name is wrong or > that the parents are incorrect..Any help would be appreciated as this is a > bit of a brick wall! > Thanks so Much > Cheri > > Name: LUCAS, ANNIE > Year: 1890 > Volume: 6/9/278 > Source Location: National Archives, Cape Town (KAB) > Reference: 377 > Source: Master's Office / Orphan Chamber, Cape Town (MOOC) > Collection Name: Cape Estates Death Notice Index 1834 - 1951 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message