Many thanks for the info about where the Cape Town archives are and the information about available dates. Unfortunately my grandfather was born in January 1877 so it would not be worth my while to go to the archives. I appreciate your info. Kind regards Sybil On 12 April 2014 06:23, <[email protected]>wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES (Sybil Banisterjones) > 2. Re: Willowmore (Patty Myers) > 3. Re: Willowmore (Patty Myers) > 4. Re: Willowmore (Patty Myers) > 5. Re: CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES (Accounts IBF) > 6. Re: CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES (rodg) > 7. Re: Willowmore (Linda Farrell) > 8. Re: Willowmore (Accounts IBF) > 9. Re: CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES (Heather MacAlister) > 10. Re: CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES (Graham and Jennifer Lloyd) > 11. Re: Willowmore (Colin M?hr) > 12. Re: Willowmore (Patti Putter) > 13. Re: Willowmore (John & Liz Wilmot) > 14. Indexes of Dutch Reformed church records available at GISA on > Family Search ([email protected]) > 15. Re: Indexes of Dutch Reformed church records available at > GISA on Family Search (Linda Farrell) > 16. The Herald, 13.09.2002 (Carol Beneke) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Sybil Banisterjones <[email protected]> > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:03:48 +0200 > Subject: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES > Please can someone explain to me where the CT archive building is and > whether they have birth registers there, and if so, how does one access > them? > Many thanks > Sybil > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Patty Myers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:25:56 +0200 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > Her death was 23 Oct 1931, 35 years so that would make her birth year 1896. > I would imagine that they were Dutch Reformed. Could one email them and > get > them to look for the birth record or must I go there personally? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Accounts IBF [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 10 April 2014 09:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > Registration of the birth should be recorded at the Cape Archives so > perhaps > they could be of assistance with that? My husband found his grandmother's > birth record in large handwritten volumes that are kept at the archives. As > far as the baptism record goes, do you know what church they would have > attended? (presume Dutch Reformed?) Do you know her exact date of birth or > can you calculate the approximate date from her date of death? > > > > Antoinette Saunders > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patty > Myers > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:42 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around > 1896 > and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as they > raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. > > I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the > right > direction of where to look. > > > > Kind regards > > Patty > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Patty Myers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected] > > > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:27:12 +0200 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > Can I access it online? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 10 April 2014 09:41 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > > Dear Patty > > At GISA in Stellenbosch is an index of Cape DRC baptismals for the period > 1856-1898. > > They also have microfilms of the baptismals registers. > > Kind regards > > Daniel JacobsDaniel Jacobs</div> > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Patty Myers" <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:41:34 > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around > 1896 and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as > they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. > > I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the > right direction of where to look. > > > > Kind regards > > Patty > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Patty Myers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:28:53 +0200 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > Thanks Linda, I'll have a peek but I think they were Dutch Reformed. She > married Miles Walker Capstick in PE and that marriage would probably been > in > the Anglican Church as my mother was baptised in St Pauls St Barnabas > Church. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda Farrell [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 10 April 2014 11:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > Hi Patty, > > > If there's a chance that they could have belonged to the Anglican church, > you can browse through these on familysearch : > > https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.o > > rg%2Frecapi%2Fsord%2Fwaypoint%2FMCM6-QNL%3A44975801%2C44975802%2C49789201%3F > cc%3D1468076 > > Linda > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Accounts IBF > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Registration of the birth should be recorded at the Cape Archives so > > perhaps they could be of assistance with that? My husband found his > > grandmother's birth record in large handwritten volumes that are kept > > at the archives. As far as the baptism record goes, do you know what > > church they would have attended? (presume Dutch Reformed?) Do you know > > her exact date of birth or can you calculate the approximate date from > > her date of death? > > > > > > > > Antoinette Saunders > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > Patty Myers > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:42 AM > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > > > My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born > > around > > 1896 > > and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as > > they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. > > > > I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the > > right direction of where to look. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Patty > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Accounts IBF" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 12:13:01 +0200 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES > Hi, > > The archives are at 72 Roeland Street (old Roeland Street jail building) - > the easiest would be to google for directions. > > My personal experience only - my husband found his grandmother's birth > record in a register (born 1897 in PE and I saw my mother's as well (1923 > Cape Town). Prior to 1895 you won't find them because it wasn't required to > register births before 1895 in the Cape. You would need lots of time if you > don't have the exact year and place of birth as it doesn't seem that the > registers cover every single town and some fall under other places. The > staff were relatively helpful especially when I said I was trying to find > out who my grandfather was as my mother was born out of wedlock. However, > as > the birth took place less than 100 years ago, they were not permitted to > show me the original birth registration which is kept separately to the > registers (according to what they told me anyway.) My only option would be > to apply to Home Affairs for my mother's original birth certificate. The > handwritten registers are kept in a separate room which the public has > access to unlike the other records which you must first order from the > desk. > > > > Antoinette Saunders > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sybil > Banisterjones > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:04 AM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE > Subject: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES > > Please can someone explain to me where the CT archive building is and > whether they have birth registers there, and if so, how does one access > them? > Many thanks > Sybil > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "rodg" <[email protected]> > To: south-africa-easte[email protected] > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:18:26 +0000 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES > In Roeland street, opp the school > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sybil Banisterjones <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:03:48 > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE<[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES > > Please can someone explain to me where the CT archive building is and > whether they have birth registers there, and if so, how does one access > them? > Many thanks > Sybil > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Linda Farrell <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 20:18:20 +1000 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > Patty, > > The Van der Mescht NG baptisms are on this image and the next one: > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-24239-12463-57?cc=1392488&wc=M64C-L38:13850901,13850902,13851003,22521201 > . > If you find hers, you can contact GISA with the Book number (bk no) > and > Page number (bl) and they will help you > > "GISA realised that genealogists who could not visit our offices to do > their research, requires the service of an researcher. GISA do offer this > service themselve now. People who wish to commission research can contact > [email protected]< > [email protected]?subject=RE%3A%20Versoek%20vir%20navorsing%20%2F%20Request%20for%20research > >with > all the available information they do have and must clearly specify > the information needed. A quote for the service will be provided before the > research will commence." > > Linda > > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Patty Myers <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > Can I access it online? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: 10 April 2014 09:41 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > > > > > Dear Patty > > > > At GISA in Stellenbosch is an index of Cape DRC baptismals for the period > > 1856-1898. > > > > They also have microfilms of the baptismals registers. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Daniel JacobsDaniel Jacobs</div> > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Patty Myers" <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:41:34 > > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected] > > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > > > My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around > > 1896 and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as > > they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. > > > > I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the > > right direction of where to look. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Patty > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Accounts IBF" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 12:19:13 +0200 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > I don't think they will do look-ups as the births are in volumes, not on > the > computer system (other documents which are recorded on NAAIRS can be > requested by e-mail and they will post) so I would imagine you may have to > go there in person. > > Antoinette Saunders > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patty > Myers > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:26 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > Her death was 23 Oct 1931, 35 years so that would make her birth year 1896. > I would imagine that they were Dutch Reformed. Could one email them and > get > them to look for the birth record or must I go there personally? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Accounts IBF [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 10 April 2014 09:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > Registration of the birth should be recorded at the Cape Archives so > perhaps > they could be of assistance with that? My husband found his grandmother's > birth record in large handwritten volumes that are kept at the archives. As > far as the baptism record goes, do you know what church they would have > attended? (presume Dutch Reformed?) Do you know her exact date of birth or > can you calculate the approximate date from her date of death? > > > > Antoinette Saunders > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patty > Myers > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:42 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around > 1896 > and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as they > raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. > > I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the > right > direction of where to look. > > > > Kind regards > > Patty > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Heather MacAlister <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:12:07 +0000 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES > Hi Sybil > Yes there are birth records in the Cape Town Archives for the Western > Cape, Eastern Cape and Northern Cape BUT you will need to know what > magisterial district the birth was registered in as there are over 20 > possibilities just in Cape Town itself. > In a nutshell: > > The government office holds the most comprehensive compilation of > personal resources for all South Africans. Since the registers of births > are closed for a period of a 100 years – the public may then view birth > records prior to 1908 which are housed in the various archival > repositories. If someone was born in Kimberley – these records would be in > the Cape Town Archives. If they were born in Rustenburg then they would be > in the Pretoria Archives etc. > The index’s available to these records are also housed in the provincial > archival repositories. Each province has a reference pertaining to these > births: > HAWC – Home Affairs Western Cape > Eastern Cape > Northern Cape > Natal > Free State > Transvaal > > Registration of births in the Cape begun in 1895, the Transvaal in 1901 > and Orange Free State in 1903. > > You will first need to know exactly which magisterial district the event > took place before you can request the index. These indexes are not > searchable electronically either except for the Western Cape Index on > Ancestry24. The Home Affairs Western Cape Index (HAWC) is housed in the > Cape Town Archives as well as the Eastern and Northern Cape. > > If someone was born in Cape Town you will need to check places like Cape > Town Central, Wynberg, Docks, Green Point, See Point, Woodstock, > Observatory etc – these are all separate registers. > > Please note that a CLOSED period of 100 years exists to all Birth records > to protect individuals as stipulated by the office of origin. A normal > period of closure remains as 20 years for Deaths and Marriages. > > To find the birth certificate of an individual you will need to first > consult the index to the birth in the area in which it was registered i.e. > Worcester. The earliest reference number begins with 1/3/57/4/1 –which > covers 1895 to June 1905. > > Once you have got the register 1/3/57/4/1 you will need to look for the > dates between 1895 – 1905 for that birth registration. There are two > volumes of birth registers that apply for this period being 1/3/57/3/1 to > 1/3/57/3/2. The first volume covers January 1895 to June 1899 and the > second one June 1899 until January 1905. > > Depending on the size of the initial index will depend on how many volumes > of registers there are for each area. Worcester has 62 Birth registers > equalling about 4 years per book until 1933 and then one book per year > thereafter. This does not apply to each area. > > Some of these books are very large, heavy and the pages are difficult to > photograph because of the enormity of them. There are on the top floor of > the archives and once ordered be prepared for a very long wait. First make > sure you get your volume numbers correct before you attempt to order any of > these books. > > The Cape Town Archives is situated in Roeland Street and parking can be > difficult – depending on the time of day > > > https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/Roeland+St/@-33.930859,18.4235699,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x1dcc677c24c99003:0x2b9226a0c0a6ef14 > > Street address: 72 Roeland Street, CAPE TOWN > > Tel: (021) 466 8100. Fax: (021) 465 2960 > > regards > > Heather > > > > Heather MacAlister > > Content Manager South Africa / Consultant > > > Ancestry.com<http://www.ancestry.com/> > > P > > 082-8082251 > > > > > > E [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > P. O. Box 455 > > Clanwilliam, 8135, South Africa > > > > > > From: Sybil Banisterjones <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>" < > [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> > Date: Friday 11 April 2014 at 10:03 AM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES > > Please can someone explain to me where the CT archive building is and > whether they have birth registers there, and if so, how does one access > them? > Many thanks > Sybil > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]> with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Graham and Jennifer Lloyd" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 13:47:42 +0200 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES > Just to inform those who maybe wanting to visit the Cape Archives that > there is no parking in the Archives parking area as Drury Street (entrance > to the parking area) is now closed for 6 months due to road works. > Cheers > Jenn > > Graham & Jennifer Lloyd > [Genealogical & Historical Research] > Tel: +0027 (0)21 7974875 > Mobile: 0824037343 > email: [email protected] > www.southafricanfamily.com > > I'm not stuck, I'm Ancestrally challenged > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister" < > [email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:12 PM > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES > > > Hi Sybil > Yes there are birth records in the Cape Town Archives for the Western > Cape, Eastern Cape and Northern Cape BUT you will need to know what > magisterial district the birth was registered in as there are over 20 > possibilities just in Cape Town itself. > In a nutshell: > > The government office holds the most comprehensive compilation of > personal resources for all South Africans. Since the registers of births > are closed for a period of a 100 years – the public may then view birth > records prior to 1908 which are housed in the various archival > repositories. If someone was born in Kimberley – these records would be in > the Cape Town Archives. If they were born in Rustenburg then they would be > in the Pretoria Archives etc. > The index’s available to these records are also housed in the provincial > archival repositories. Each province has a reference pertaining to these > births: > HAWC – Home Affairs Western Cape > Eastern Cape > Northern Cape > Natal > Free State > Transvaal > > Registration of births in the Cape begun in 1895, the Transvaal in 1901 > and Orange Free State in 1903. > > You will first need to know exactly which magisterial district the event > took place before you can request the index. These indexes are not > searchable electronically either except for the Western Cape Index on > Ancestry24. The Home Affairs Western Cape Index (HAWC) is housed in the > Cape Town Archives as well as the Eastern and Northern Cape. > > If someone was born in Cape Town you will need to check places like Cape > Town Central, Wynberg, Docks, Green Point, See Point, Woodstock, > Observatory etc – these are all separate registers. > > Please note that a CLOSED period of 100 years exists to all Birth records > to protect individuals as stipulated by the office of origin. A normal > period of closure remains as 20 years for Deaths and Marriages. > > To find the birth certificate of an individual you will need to first > consult the index to the birth in the area in which it was registered i.e. > Worcester. The earliest reference number begins with 1/3/57/4/1 –which > covers 1895 to June 1905. > > Once you have got the register 1/3/57/4/1 you will need to look for the > dates between 1895 – 1905 for that birth registration. There are two > volumes of birth registers that apply for this period being 1/3/57/3/1 to > 1/3/57/3/2. The first volume covers January 1895 to June 1899 and the > second one June 1899 until January 1905. > > Depending on the size of the initial index will depend on how many volumes > of registers there are for each area. Worcester has 62 Birth registers > equalling about 4 years per book until 1933 and then one book per year > thereafter. This does not apply to each area. > > Some of these books are very large, heavy and the pages are difficult to > photograph because of the enormity of them. There are on the top floor of > the archives and once ordered be prepared for a very long wait. First make > sure you get your volume numbers correct before you attempt to order any of > these books. > > The Cape Town Archives is situated in Roeland Street and parking can be > difficult – depending on the time of day > > https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/Roeland+St/@-33.930859, > 18.4235699,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x1dcc677c24c99003: > 0x2b9226a0c0a6ef14 > > Street address: 72 Roeland Street, CAPE TOWN > > Tel: (021) 466 8100. Fax: (021) 465 2960 > > regards > > Heather > > > > Heather MacAlister > > Content Manager South Africa / Consultant > > > Ancestry.com<http://www.ancestry.com/> > > P > > 082-8082251 > > > > > > E [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > > P. O. Box 455 > > Clanwilliam, 8135, South Africa > > > > > > From: Sybil Banisterjones <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:south- > [email protected]>" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Date: Friday 11 April 2014 at 10:03 AM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > Subject: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES > > Please can someone explain to me where the CT archive building is and > whether they have birth registers there, and if so, how does one access > them? > Many thanks > Sybil > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:SO > [email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Colin Möhr" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:27:19 +0200 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > Linda, > Any indication what the costs are? > Regards, > Colin Mohr > Researching the Western Cape Germans > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Farrell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > > Patty, >> >> The Van der Mescht NG baptisms are on this image and the next one: >> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-24239-12463- >> 57?cc=1392488&wc=M64C-L38:13850901,13850902,13851003,22521201. >> If you find hers, you can contact GISA with the Book number (bk no) >> and >> Page number (bl) and they will help you >> >> "GISA realised that genealogists who could not visit our offices to do >> their research, requires the service of an researcher. GISA do offer this >> service themselve now. People who wish to commission research can contact >> [email protected]<[email protected]?subject=RE% >> 3A%20Versoek%20vir%20navorsing%20%2F%20Request%20for%20research>with >> all the available information they do have and must clearly specify >> the information needed. A quote for the service will be provided before >> the >> research will commence." >> >> Linda >> >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Patty Myers <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Can I access it online? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: 10 April 2014 09:41 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore >>> >>> >>> Dear Patty >>> >>> At GISA in Stellenbosch is an index of Cape DRC baptismals for the period >>> 1856-1898. >>> >>> They also have microfilms of the baptismals registers. >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Daniel JacobsDaniel Jacobs</div> >>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Patty Myers" <[email protected]> >>> Sender: [email protected] >>> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:41:34 >>> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected] >>> > >>> Reply-To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore >>> >>> My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around >>> 1896 and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as >>> they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. >>> >>> I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the >>> right direction of where to look. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Patty >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Patti Putter" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:48:05 +0200 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > Hi Colin > > I ordered a copy of a baptism register entry from Glen Lynden last year - > and a very helpful lady called Lorna sent me a whole bunch (that I hadn't > ordered) and it cost R150. > > Regards > Patti > > > -----Original Message----- From: Colin Möhr > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 5:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > Linda, > Any indication what the costs are? > Regards, > Colin Mohr > Researching the Western Cape Germans > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "John & Liz Wilmot" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 20:30:53 +0200 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > Hi, Here is an excerp from the February issue of GSSA, East Cape > newsletter, Chronicles: > b10. George Murray ministered in Willowmore from 1869, Swellendam from > 1879, > Oudtshoorn from 1892, de Hoop from 1910 and Worcester from 1916. > (Willowmore was named after the farm, The Willows & owner William Moore and > first named Willow-Moore). > Cheers, John Wilmot > ---------------------------- > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patty Myers" <[email protected] > > > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:25 AM > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > > Her death was 23 Oct 1931, 35 years so that would make her birth year >> 1896. >> I would imagine that they were Dutch Reformed. Could one email them and >> get >> them to look for the birth record or must I go there personally? >> ---------------------------- -----Original Message----- >> From: Accounts IBF [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 10 April 2014 09:21 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore >> >> Registration of the birth should be recorded at the Cape Archives so >> perhaps >> they could be of assistance with that? My husband found his grandmother's >> birth record in large handwritten volumes that are kept at the archives. >> As >> far as the baptism record goes, do you know what church they would have >> attended? (presume Dutch Reformed?) Do you know her exact date of birth or >> can you calculate the approximate date from her date of death? >> >> Antoinette Saunders >> --------------------------- >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Patty >> Myers >> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:42 AM >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore >> >> My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around >> 1896 >> and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as they >> raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. >> I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the >> right >> direction of where to look. >> Kind regards >> >> Patty >> > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" < > [email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 23:50:39 +0200 > Subject: [ZA-EC] Indexes of Dutch Reformed church records available at > GISA on Family Search > I read the previous e-mails from Patti Putter who was requesting help with > finding her grandmother's records (van der Mescht). I have been trying to > find my grandfather's baptism (Hendrik Jacobus Moolman born 30/08/1891 in > Hankey) for a long time. I thought I had struck gold with the index and > followed the link provided from Linda to the Family Search site but could > not find any M's in the index. Am I missing something? When trying to go > through from the home page of Family Search in the normal manner, I could > not find the indexes of the GISA baptism records. Can anyone help as I > would like to contact GISA if I have something to go on. > > > > Antoinette Saunders > > Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Linda Farrell <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 06:51:03 +1000 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Indexes of Dutch Reformed church records available at > GISA on Family Search > Hi Antoinette, > > There are several indexes depending on date of baptism and first letter of > surname. The indexes are here: > > https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecapi%2Fsord%2Fwaypoint%2FM64C-VWL%3A13850901%2C13850902%2C13851003%3Fcc%3D1392488 > > Hope you find your grandfather's baptism! > > Linda > > > On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 7:50 AM, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I read the previous e-mails from Patti Putter who was requesting help > with > > finding her grandmother's records (van der Mescht). I have been trying to > > find my grandfather's baptism (Hendrik Jacobus Moolman born 30/08/1891 in > > Hankey) for a long time. I thought I had struck gold with the index and > > followed the link provided from Linda to the Family Search site but could > > not find any M's in the index. Am I missing something? When trying to go > > through from the home page of Family Search in the normal manner, I could > > not find the indexes of the GISA baptism records. Can anyone help as I > > would like to contact GISA if I have something to go on. > > > > > > > > Antoinette Saunders > > > > Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Carol Beneke" <[email protected]> > To: "Rootsweb - E.C." <[email protected]>, "Walter > Renze" <[email protected]>, "Sue Mackay" <[email protected]> > Cc: > Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 06:23:49 +0200 > Subject: [ZA-EC] The Herald, 13.09.2002 > The Herald. > > Friday, September 13, 2002. > > > > BIRTHS. > > CUNNINGHAM. – To Craig and Jane, in Cape Town on Wednesday, September 11, > 2002, a daughter, Lee. Sister to Amy and more joy for Des and Denise. > > KEEVY. – To Brent and Leanne, a son Nicholas, brother to Matthew. > > NEL. – To Hein and Melissa, a daughter Jodi Leah, Tuesday, September 10, > 2002. > > > > WEDDING ANNIVERSARIES. > > FERREIRA. – Stan and Enid. Congratulations on your 50th Anniversary. Love > Jeff, Debbie, Sean, Cliff, Kathy, Samantha, James and Alfir. > > > > DEATHS. > > COTZER. – Melville (Cob), passed away on Wednesday, September 11, 2002. > Husband of Irene and dad of Karen and Leon, Erika and Johan, Rene and > Ingrid and Christo. Oupa of Brandon, Jessica, Morné and Erik. > > FONTEIN. – Thomas. Remembered by his wife and family. > > GREEN. – Winifred Maud, passed away on Wednesday, September 11, 2002. > Remembered by her husband Alec and friends. > > MANN. – Steve, passed away on Wednesday, September 11, 2002. Remembered by > your wife Maggie, son and daughter Carl and Debbie, son-in-law Lance and > granddaughters Tate and Amber and step-son Jacques DU TOUT. > > NEL. – Danielle (nee BARNARD). Remembered by Mom, Marieta, Christelle and > Petro. > > SMITH. – Michael (Mike), passed away on Thursday, September 12, 2002. Son > of Steve and Muriel. Remembered by your brother Lester, Carol, Jenny and > Mark. > > SWARTZ. – Henry, passed away on Monday, September 9, 2002. Remembered by > your wife Sarah, family and Siesie Phyllis; son Martin, Linda, Margo, > Mirielle and Michaela; Koennie, Chrissie JACOBS and family. > > VAN HEERDEN. – Vera, passed away on Wednesday, September 11, 2002. > Condolences to Vida, Vernon, Cynthia and families. Remembered by Johnny, > Phyllis and family; Cynthia and André; Teresa, Brandon and Stephanie; son > Vernon, daughter Shirley and families; grandmother of Gary, Joanne, Cheryl, > Sean and Jenny and great-grandchildren. > > > > FUNERAL NOTICES. > > ADAMS. – Sarah, age 76 years. The funeral service will take place > tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 1.30 pm from the Roselane > Congregational Church. Cremation private on Sunday. > > BILLETT. – Charlie, aged 35 years. The funeral service will take place > tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 11 am from the Old Apostolic > Church, St Adam’s Drive. > > BROWN. – Sylvia, aged 53 years. The funeral service will take place > tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 12 noon from the Audrey Reneke > Church, West End. > > CELLIERS. – Jennifer Maria, aged 29 years. The funeral service will take > place tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 12 noon from the > Methodist Church, Alexander Street, Cannon Hill. > > CLOETE. – David, passed away on Wednesday, September 11, 2002 at the age > of 83. Missed by his wife Dorrie, daughters Sally, Betty and Lisie and > families. Funeral service will take place today (Friday), September 13 at > 10 am from the Huisgenot Old Age Home, Dyke Road, Algoa Park. Thence to the > North End Cemetery. > > DASA. – Thembeni, age 32 years. The funeral service will take place > tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 10 am from the Old Apostolic > Church, Red Location. > > DU PLESSIS. – Marvin, passed away tragically. Funeral took place yesterday > (Thursday), September 12, 2002 at 3 pm from St Joseph the Waker, Bloemendal. > > FONTEIN. – Thomas. The funeral service will take place tomorrow > (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 1 pm from the Beulah Worship Centre, > Highfield Road. Thence to Paapenkuils Cemetery. > > GOBA. – Nomakhaya (Kideo) Rita, ex-employee of MacDonald Restaurant. > Service tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 8 am from 17 Dada > Street, NU8, Motherwell. At 9 am from the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, > Kwazakhele. > > GREEN. – Winifred Maud. The funeral service will take place from Milnerton > House Chapel, First Avenue Funeral Home, Walmer on Monday, September 16, > 2002 at 2 pm. Cremation private. > > GUEST. – Johanna. The funeral service will take place tomorrow (Saturday), > September 14, 2002 at 12 noon from the Old Apostolic Church, Barcelona. > > HENDRICKS. – Raymond. The funeral service will take place tomorrow > (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 1 pm from the Roselane Church, Aloes. > > JANUARY. – Margaret. The funeral service will take place tomorrow > (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 1 pm from the Old Apostolic Church, > Reyneke Street. Thence to Paapenkuils Cemetery. > > JANUARY. – Francis, age 37 years. The funeral service will take place > tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 10 am from the Holy Spirit, > Arcadia. > > MAFANA. – Vuyiswa. The funeral service will take place tomorrow > (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 9 am from 25 Ncapayi Street, New > Brighton. > > MAGIELIES. – Errol and Margaret. The funeral service will take place > tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 2 pm from the Old apostolic > Church, Kleinskool. Thence to Bethelsdorp Cemetery. > > MAJOLA. – Marilyn Jessie. The funeral service will take place tomorrow > (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 12 noon from the United Congregational > Church, Missionvale. > > MANA. – Alfred. The funeral service will take place tomorrow (Saturday), > September 14, 2002 at 9 am in the Methodist Church of South Africa > (Kwa-Donkey), Kwazakhele. > > MANN. – Steve. The funeral service will take place on Monday, September > 16, 2002 at 10 am from St Peter’s Congregational Church, Walter Road, > Charlo. > > MAYEKO. – Wendy. Service tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 8 am > from 17 Dada Street, NU8, Motherwell. > > MDE. – Nomatamsanqa. Service tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 10 > am from the Universal Church, Sidwell. > > MHLAMBISO. – Noluvuyo, former field and track athlete, popularly known as > “Tumtum”, passed away on Friday, September 6, 2002. She will be buried on > Saturday, September 14, 2002. Short service at 11278 Ndongeni Street. > Procession to Mavavana Hall (next to Kaizer Ngxwana). She leaves her father > Sandile, ex-star track himself and brother, EP Cross country star, > Lukhanyiso. > > MULLER. – Delores. Service tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 12 > noon from the Church of God, Velozia Drive, Extension 31. > > MULLER. – Thys, aged 28 years. Service tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, > 2002 at 12 noon from 29 Fondling Street, Bloemendal. > > NEL. – Danielle (nee BARNARD). 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Thence to Bethelsdorp > Cemetery. > > SAAYMAN. – Jannie, (ex Swartkops), passed away on Wednesday, September 11, > 2002. Missed by his wife Rita, children Leonie, Willie, Leon and Emma and > families. Funeral service will take place today (Friday), September 13, > 2002 at 2 pm, from the D.R. Church, Kragga Kamma, Sunridge Parl. Cremation > private. > > SEEKOEI. – Piet, aged 54 years. Service tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, > 2002 at 12 noon from the Methodist Church, Alexander Street, Cannon Hill. > > SEPTEMBER. – Patrick James, aged 53. Service tomorrow (Saturday), > September 14, 2002 at 12 noon from the A.G.S. Church, Korsten. Thence to > North End Cemetery. > > SIYAKA. – Nokuzola. Funeral on Sunday, September 15, 2002 at 9 am from 251 > Gqamana Street, New Brighton. > > SMITH. – Aileen. The funeral service will take place on Monday, September > 16, 2002, at 11 am, from the Harvest Christian Church, Albert Road, Walmer. > > SMITH. – Sylvia, aged 44 years. 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Service tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, 2002 > at 10 am from St Michaels Church, Jameson Road, Schauderville. > > WIDDICOMBE. – Father Ace (Alexander Charles Ernest), Priest and former > Rector passed away in Cape Town in his 92nd year. A memorial service will > take place at St Francis Xavier Anglican Church, Kabega Park, tomorrow > (Saturday), September 14, 2002 at 2.30 pm. > > WILLIAMS. – Christina. Funeral service tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, > 2002 at 11 am from St Michaels Church, Jameson Road, Schauderville. > > WINDVOGEL. – Patricia. Funeral service tomorrow (Saturday), September 14, > 2002 at 12 noon from the New Apostolic Church, Cleary Park. Thence to > Paapenkuils Cemetery. > > YONA. – Martha, aged 53 years. Funeral service tomorrow (Saturday), > September 14, 2002 at 2 pm from the V.G.K. Bloemendal. > > > > IN MEMORIAM. > > AHMOOK. – David, passed away 30 years ago. 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