Hi Pieter. I found your man, but the family did not come out in 1852, but in 1859. They came on the Wilhelmsburg.(1000 tons) They left Hamburg on 19th October 1858; arrived East London on 13th January 1859. The captain was C.H.Müller. The doctor in charge of the ship was Dr. Carl Paul. Poor man he must have had his hands full. This was the immigrant ship on which the most children died on the voyage...64 children, 1 woman. There was an outbreak of scarlet fewer. There were a total of 121 families, 563 souls, 445 adults, rest children. Your Richter family came from Crewitz. I could not up to now find any info as to where they had settled. I could only find one other family who came from Crewitz, Johann Appel, his wife and 3 children. They also sailed on the Wilhelmsburg. I would sum it up as follows:- Either the two families, immigrated from the same place, knew each other, were related, made friends over the 3 months on the ship/children played together. The 1858-59 immigrants could stay where their friends/families were staying. The Appel family stayed at Cambridge (East London). This is close to Hanover. Maybe they also settled at Cambridge at first and later moved to Hanover. If she was buried at Hanover, I think you could take it that they had settled there. You say you are new in this game. Try different spellings of the surnames you battle with. Don't just take it that you have the correct spelling of a surname. Sometimes the poor ancestors could not spell, the clerks spelled a surname as they thought it should be, or as they heard it or phonetically. Wishing you luck. We all battle but who said genealogy is easy? Not easy but interesting! Regards. Trudie Marais -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 02 April 2014 11:13 AM To: Trudie Marais Subject: RE: Keith's Address Dear Trudie, Thank you for your quick response. I am new to the genealogy scene and find that most of the people I am researching are those difficult ones. But some with great mysteries and stories to tell. Friedrich and Friedericke Richter and their four children, Friedrich, Carl, Elilie and Johanne, settled in Hanover (maybe – no proof). Arrived in South Africa in 1852 from Crewitz via Hamburg. Friedericke died 12 March 1885 and was buried at Hanover. Of the couple’s eldest child Friedrich and third child Emilie nothing is known. I have most of the other descendants. Don’t let me start with the blanks I have with Louisa Flanegan and William Rielly. Do you think that Keith’s book will have anything that I can use?? - Hi Pieter & Rod - As far as I can remember, Keith does not mention individual people. He - published Broken Promises in Sept 2012. Here is his address:- - [email protected] He is exploring Sir George Grey's settler schemes - for the Eastern Cape. - I did a quick look up for you on the Germans I have. Do you perhaps have - his - name and the year your Richter came to S.A. as there were several who came - to S.A. It's difficult with the Germans just to go by a place name, as it - might be a small place where they came from and then they sometimes have - it - under the next big city or even the Province's name. - I found a Julius; Carl; Nicolaus; Friedrich; Wilhelm. If those names ring - a - bell, I might be able to help you a little further. - Regards. - Trudie Marais - [email protected] - - - -