Hi John, Thank you for the information provided, and as describe by you, a treasure-trove of information can be found in the Death Notice. To prove your point, Johannes Matthys de Beer *20 December 1857 ~25 January 1858 +19 January 1923 x Johanna Christina Pretorius * 22-11-1869, the Death Notice entries show his children were baptised in Pretoria, he died in Regents Park Johannesburg, and was married in Krugersdorp. Fortunately I live in Cape Town, and have found most of the Death Notices relating to the members mentioned in my previous mail. It is with the marriage certificate that I find difficulty in tracing as the wives are not always from the same area as the husband. Where would the marriage take place, at the brides residence, or the groom residence? Thank you for sharing information with me, it is much appreciated! Regards, Malcolm de Beer Sea Point Cape Town. On 19 July 2015 at 17:53, ctrhine via <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello Malcolm > As you live in Cape Town, if you haven't done so already, I suggest > you visit the Cape Archives, which is still at the old Roeland Street > Prison, I think. You can check on line for references and arrange to > view the documents and get copies. Death Notices are very useful as > they should name surviving spouses and pre-deceased spouses. Usually > the place of marriage is named, sometimes even the date. Wills name > spouses too. Estate files, most of which include death notices, often > offer much more information about the deceased person's family. > Check on line for the references here: > http://www.national.archives.gov.za/index.htm > > click on: Search National Automated Archival Information Retrieval > System > I suggest you choose the KAB option (for Cape Archives) > Type each name on a separate line. > > Best wishes, John > John Powell > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message