Good morning Listers Just as a matter of interest there are a few restaurants in Pretoria that advertise mealie meal pap and kaiings on their menus. I can just imagine it being a cholesterol nightmare !!! ??? Regards Sybil On 2 February 2015 at 10:00, <south-africa-eastern-cape-request@rootsweb.com > wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Does anyone have (ctrhine@talktalk.net) > 2. Re: Does anyone have (The Revd Fr Brian Tee) > 3. Re: Does anyone have (The Revd Fr Brian Tee) > 4. Re: Does anyone have (Daniel Jacobs) > 5. Re: Does anyone have (Irene de Villiers) > 6. Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Does anyone have a photo of a Cooler > "Safe" (Pat Frykberg) > 7. Re: Does anyone have (Pat Frykberg) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: ctrhine@talktalk.net > To: Pat Frykberg via <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Cc: > Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 11:07:55 -0000 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Does anyone have > Hello Pat > Kaiings or, in English, greaves, are the crispy bits left over from > rendered fat, most particularly from fat-tail sheep. Also called > vetmoer and afsaksel. The word kaiings sounds like it has Hottentot > origins. > Food safes work on the principle of cooling by evaporation and are > very effective. No CFCs or other gases required. > Best wishes, John > John Powell > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: The Revd Fr Brian Tee <snottygobble@bigpond.com> > To: "'Pat Frykberg'" <patfryk@clear.net.nz>, < > south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Cc: > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 20:21:29 +0800 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Does anyone have > 1 Sounds similar to the Coolgardie safe used here in Western Australia: > > "The Coolgardie Safe is a good old-fashioned piece of Aussie technology > invented during the first gold-rush in the town of the same name, > Coolgardie > in Western Australia, where the climate is extremely harsh and arid. > Without any electricity in those days, food would have gone off incredibly > quickly without refrigeration. For a desert town without any power, the > Coolgardie safe must have been a blessing." > > There are photos on the Web. > > Regards, > Brian+. > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat > Frykberg via > Sent: 01 February 2015 09:00 > To: south-africa@rootsweb.com; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] Does anyone have > > 1.a photo or drawing of the kind of safe we used. There was talk of it here > sometime ago. Zinc lined with coke and chicken wire on the outside and > water > to dribble down from a tray into the coke. And that made the safe quite > cold inside? Stood on legs in the shade. > 2. kiangs....what was this? > Fragile childhood memories coming to the fore! > Pat > Patricia Frykberg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: The Revd Fr Brian Tee <snottygobble@bigpond.com> > To: <ctrhine@talktalk.net>, <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Cc: > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 20:27:32 +0800 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Does anyone have > I have always known kaiings as crackling? > Regards, > Brian+. > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > ctrhine > via > Sent: 01 February 2015 19:08 > To: Pat Frykberg via > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Does anyone have > > Hello Pat > Kaiings or, in English, greaves, are the crispy bits left over from > rendered > fat, most particularly from fat-tail sheep. Also called vetmoer and > afsaksel. The word kaiings sounds like it has Hottentot origins. > Food safes work on the principle of cooling by evaporation and are > very effective. No CFCs or other gases required. > Best wishes, John > John Powell > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Daniel Jacobs <danielmalanjacobs@gmail.com> > To: The Revd Fr Brian Tee <snottygobble@bigpond.com>, > south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 14:36:57 +0200 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Does anyone have > You get "kaiings" as the leftovers when you fry fat in a pan (we use to do > it with sheep fat). Yes Brian it make a "cracking" side when you eat them > :) > > Vir gratis Genealogiese Handleiding gaan na www.gendata.co.za > > Siebrits/du Toit/Meyer/Zeeman/De Villiers (Franschhoek/Paarl) > Jacobs/Oberholster/Smith (Graaff-Reinet/Fauresmith) > Le Roux/Van der Merwe (Villiersdorp) > Louw/Brink (Kaapstad/Wellington) > De Vos (De Doorns/Wellington) > Malan (Wellington/Zeerust) > Ungerer (Swellendam) > Smith (Wellington) > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 2:27 PM, The Revd Fr Brian Tee via < > south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > I have always known kaiings as crackling? > > Regards, > > Brian+. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > > ctrhine > > via > > Sent: 01 February 2015 19:08 > > To: Pat Frykberg via > > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Does anyone have > > > > Hello Pat > > Kaiings or, in English, greaves, are the crispy bits left over from > > rendered > > fat, most particularly from fat-tail sheep. Also called vetmoer and > > afsaksel. The word kaiings sounds like it has Hottentot origins. > > Food safes work on the principle of cooling by evaporation and > are > > very effective. No CFCs or other gases required. > > Best wishes, John > > John Powell > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Irene de Villiers <furryboots@icehouse.net> > To: danielmalanjacobs@gmail.com, south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 09:02:16 -0800 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Does anyone have > > On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:36 AM, Daniel Jacobs via wrote: > > > You get "kaiings" as the leftovers when you fry fat in a pan (we use to > do > > it with sheep fat). Yes Brian it make a "cracking" side when you eat > them > > :) > > If you roast a leg or pork, fat side up, the fat turns to yummy crackling. > > ..Irene > -- > Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. > P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. > www.Furryboots.info > (Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy) > "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it." > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Pat Frykberg <patfryk@clear.net.nz> > To: Irene de Villiers <furryboots@icehouse.net>, south-africa@rootsweb.com, > Dennis Pretorius <dennispretorius@mweb.co.za>, > south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 09:10:03 +1300 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] [SOUTH-AFRICA] Does anyone have a photo of a Cooler > "Safe" > Oh what a a treasure trove. This is what really makes genealogy > interesting. In this age of unbelievable magical gadgets even my children > are gobsmacked by our ways. > Thanks to all. Irene's hot water bath brings a chilly memory and I > remember the irons our maid had to fill with hot coals from the stove. And > she ironed immaculately with those heavy big cumbersome things. > And thanks Dennis for that link. In fact thanks all severally and > individually. I got more than I bargained for. > Pat Frykberg > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Irene de Villiers via" <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 5:47 AM > To: "Dennis Pretorius" <dennispretorius@mweb.co.za> > Cc: <south-africa@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Does anyone have a photo of a Cooler "Safe" > > >> On Feb 1, 2015, at 1:30 AM, Dennis Pretorius wrote: >> >> You will find a few photos there of "ou goed" >>> >> >> Thanks Dennis, Baie interressant! >> >> My gran had a dozen or more old irons, as they would soon cool and >> there's need to be a fresh one to use next. >> She also had a well pump, manual one, which took a lot of effort daily to >> get enough buckets of water for all uses, carefully labelled as to which >> was for what. >> One of the photos looks almost like the "donkey" which was actually built >> by my dad in the fifties for my gran, outside the bathroom. It was an oven >> .... not for pizza but for water, so as to be able to gravity-run hot water >> into the bathroom for a bath in that frigid cast iron bath that felt like >> ice when you got in and sat on its cold surface under the warm water, as it >> did not warm easily and it was a waste of time/heat to wait for more water >> to heat. You bathed in about 2 inches. As fast as possible in July! >> Despite that, the donkey was a great upgrade from heating water on the >> old coal stove, and it was "plumbed". >> We visited Jamestown every July. Brr. >> >> Dennis wrote: >> Paul and I established a website some years ago with photos of all sorts >> of >> things relating to Genealogy and History especially about South African >> History and Genealogy. You will find a few photos there of "ou goed" ie >> "old >> things" and in particular your safe >> >> The link is: >> http://public.fotki.com/SAgenealogie/ougoed/safeicebox002.html >> >> You are welcome to page through all the other photos of old things and >> many >> others too >> >> ......Irene >> -- >> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. >> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. >> www.Furryboots.info >> (Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy) >> "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it." >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1434 / Virus Database: 4257/8535 - Release Date: 02/01/15 >> >> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Pat Frykberg <patfryk@clear.net.nz> > To: ctrhine@talktalk.net, south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 13:05:23 +1300 > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Does anyone have > Thanks for the English equivalent. And yes it does sound Hottentot. And we > always made ours from the fat tail sheep. > Sounds as though we can go back and save the planet, since we used no > power or gases or cfcs > Pat > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "ctrhine via" <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 12:07 AM > To: "Pat Frykberg via" <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Does anyone have > > Hello Pat >> Kaiings or, in English, greaves, are the crispy bits left over from >> rendered fat, most particularly from fat-tail sheep. Also called >> vetmoer and afsaksel. The word kaiings sounds like it has Hottentot >> origins. >> Food safes work on the principle of cooling by evaporation and are >> very effective. No CFCs or other gases required. >> Best wishes, John >> John Powell >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1434 / Virus Database: 4257/8535 - Release Date: 02/01/15 >> >> > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE list administrator, send an email > to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE mailing list, send an > email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > >

On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:16 PM, Sybil Banisterjones via wrote: > > Just as a matter of interest there are a few restaurants in Pretoria > that advertise mealie meal pap and kaiings on their menus. I can just > imagine it being a cholesterol nightmare !!! ??? > Regards It's a well advertized myth that cholesterol in food is a problem. It is actually brain food. Nothing is better than eggs as a food. You'd die fast without food cholesterol or with a too low level. It's also a myth that a high blood cholesterol comes from fatty food. It comes from sugar and starch food that is deposited as central fat which is metabolically active and actually MAKES the LDL cholesterol in the blood. So cholesterol comes from food - but ONLY from sugar/starch food. Cholesterol in food is not part of that. So the things to eat are crackling and kaiings, and the things to avoid are jelly donuts, mieliepap and potatoes Based on new knowledge:-) Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.Furryboots.info (Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy) "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."