Thanks again for this information Nolene. Just trying to piece together some Smith families in case I ever find a connection for my William Eric Smith 1919-1988. Nora -----Original Message----- From: Nolene Lossau [mailto:nolene@mweb.co.za] Sent: February 6, 2015 8:57 AM To: 'Nora McLean'; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ZA-EC] Graham and Smith at Port Alfred (Nora McLean) Hi Nora I have William Collins SMITH as being born 10 Jan 1810 in Seaton, Northamptonshire, UK, son of Eli SMITH (I do not have a mother's name) . William Collins SMITH married Joyce FIELDING on 13 Nov 1837 in Adelphi Chapel, St Martins in the Field, Trafalgar Square London so it is unlikely that he was of 1820 stock. -----Original Message----- From: Nora McLean [mailto:notesfornora@telus.net] Sent: 06 February 2015 04:39 PM To: 'Nolene Lossau'; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [ZA-EC] Graham and Smith at Port Alfred (Nora McLean) Nolene, thank you for this information. In looking over this particular Smith family, does anyone know who the parents were for this William Collins Smith? Did he belong to any of the 1820 Settler families? Thanks again from Nora -----Original Message----- From: Nolene Lossau [mailto:nolene@mweb.co.za] Sent: February 5, 2015 10:24 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Graham and Smith at Port Alfred (Nora McLean) I have this Florence Ann SMITH (born GRAHAM) as the wife of Cecil Alfred SMITH - He was born 20 Jul 1873 and buried in Port Alfred 3 March 1951 - son of Alfred Slater SMITH & Mary Ann WEBBER and grandson of William Collins SMITH and Joyce FIELDING I have two children recorded for Cecil Alfred SMITH and Florence Ann GRAHAM: - Mildred Mary GRAHAM - born 15 Jul 1898 in Port Alfred - Florence Kate Tugela SMITH - born 22 Mar 1900 in Port Alfred Message: 6 Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 20:39:14 -0700 From: "Nora McLean" <notesfornora@telus.net> Subject: [ZA-EC] Graham and Smith at Port Alfred To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <201502050338.t153ci14032514@mail.rootsweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone know the identity of these two women who are buried or memorialized at the Port Alfred cemetery also known as the golf course cemetery? Florence Ann Smith nee Graham died at age 65 years on October 7, 1936 That puts her year of birth at about 1871. Who was her SMITH husband? In same plot (as per online notation) is buried Ellen Mary Graham, who died July 14, 1902 aged 53 years. This puts her yob at about 1849. Was she Florence Ann Graham Smith's mother? Any chance she was Ellen Mary Dicks married to Rowland Graham? I found a birth record for Arthur Dicks Graham born Dec. 24, 1874 near Boston, Pietermaritzburg, and John James Graham born July 17, 1877, Howick near Pietermaritzburg. Parents to both men were Rowland Graham and Ellen Mary Dicks. Florence Ann Graham/Mrs. Smith above would fit to be a sister to these brothers. Thanks from Nora