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?I tried again using the detailed URL from Hazel's email: http://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2048/login?url=http://infoweb.newsbank.com?d b=WHNPX&d_collections=WHNPAFR1? I logged in and immediately got this: bl.uk<http://www.bl.uk/> > Reading Room eResources Home As the login page stated, these resources are only available to St Pancras Registered readers with a valid photographic pass. Although you have registered online for a reader pass you need to complete the registration process by going to the Reader Registration Office at St Pancras, with your identification and proof of address, and collect your photographic pass. You are not fully registered until you have done this. The publisher's licence conditions only permit access to these resources by fully registered readers. So I'm not optimistic that we can gain access from afar. Pity. David Luke ________________________________ From: Hazel Dakers <hazel.dakers@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: April 5, 2015 3:48 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Use of British Library digitised materials online Following a discussion some while ago, when one well-informed subscriber told the rest of us that the BL website includes runs of early Grahams Town Journals ( <http://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2048/login?url=http://infoweb.newsbank.com?d b=WHNPX&d_collections=WHNPAFR1> Readex: World Newspaper Archive: African Newspapers, 1800-1922) & a number of other items potentially of value to historians of South African families, I set about finding out how those of you unable to visit the BL to register as readers could benefit from these and other materials. This was the advice I received on behalf of my friends: "If your friends completed the online pre-registration for a readers pass, and then upgraded to an online account (creating a username and password) they would then be able to log in and use the remote eresources at <https://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2443/login> https://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2443/login . They can pre-register at http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/inrrooms/stp/register/howreg/howtoregister.html and can then upgrade that registration at https://ssoa.bl.uk/idp/Authn/UserPassword " I think you may also find more to explore. Hazel Dakers, London UK researching: BIRNBAUM (Zgierz & Lodz, Poland), GOLD (Zgierz & Lodz, Poland), HEIMANN (Luegde, Germany & South Africa), NORDEN (London and South Africa) <http://www.hazeldakers.co.uk> www.hazeldakers.co.uk<http://www.hazeldakers.co.uk>

I have problems. Step 1 was straight forward. Step 2. The URL gave me a blank page. But when I accessed the "Explore" page and clicked on Login (top right) I got the page to complete the upgrade and this was confirmed. Then accessing https://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2443/login? gave me a log in page and my new account allowed access. BUT NO RESOURCES APPEAR TO BE AVAILABLE. Has anyone else had success? David Luke luke@unb.ca ________________________________ From: Hazel Dakers <hazel.dakers@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: April 5, 2015 3:48 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Use of British Library digitised materials online Following a discussion some while ago, when one well-informed subscriber told the rest of us that the BL website includes runs of early Grahams Town Journals ( <http://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2048/login?url=http://infoweb.newsbank.com?d b=WHNPX&d_collections=WHNPAFR1> Readex: World Newspaper Archive: African Newspapers, 1800-1922) & a number of other items potentially of value to historians of South African families, I set about finding out how those of you unable to visit the BL to register as readers could benefit from these and other materials. This was the advice I received on behalf of my friends: "If your friends completed the online pre-registration for a readers pass, and then upgraded to an online account (creating a username and password) they would then be able to log in and use the remote eresources at <https://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2443/login> https://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2443/login . They can pre-register at http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/inrrooms/stp/register/howreg/howtoregister.html and can then upgrade that registration at https://ssoa.bl.uk/idp/Authn/UserPassword " I think you may also find more to explore. Hazel Dakers, London UK researching: BIRNBAUM (Zgierz & Lodz, Poland), GOLD (Zgierz & Lodz, Poland), HEIMANN (Luegde, Germany & South Africa), NORDEN (London and South Africa) <http://www.hazeldakers.co.uk> www.hazeldakers.co.uk<http://www.hazeldakers.co.uk>

On Apr 4, 2015, at 11:07 PM, rodg via wrote: > As far as I understand polio is an infection and club feet is an heredity condition. > Which did young Mavis have? Dear Rod, Polio is indeed a viral infection. But club foot is most often a condition of a crowded uterus. If the mother is malnourished or has a toxic diet or takes in toxins (eg smoking) or has a nutritional deficiency, the uterus is poorly fed and the amn iotic sac tends to be too small also (difficult to make fluid with malnutrition), the feet can become mispositioned in the womb due to crowding and the individual is born with a foot facing the wrong way called "clubfoot" though it is not a good description. If repaired before age two, it is a simple operation as there has been no significant pressure on the bones of the feet, in the wrong direction. Later it becomes major surgery as bones succumb to pressure and walking on a foot in the wrong position aggravates the situation and forces incorrect bone growth. Sadly the need to help the foot u nwind to the correct position was not understood till about mic-20th century. The same issues occur more frequently in animals with multiple births but there too it is a matter of whether the uterus could expand easily or was undernourished or incorrectly nourished and failed to expand well and provide a suitable amniotic volume and cramped the infants. In kittens for example club feet are quite common in a large litter, but they often can come right in a matter of weeks with very little help. The homeopathic remedy caullophyllum 30C, given to the mother of any species during pregnancy, a few times like monthly for 6 months in humans, weekly for 6 weeks in cats, but not late in pregnancy will ensure flexibility and womb muscle strength, helping infants to stretch thanks to the excellent muscle tone and the uterus to expel the infant easily and painlessly at birth. Those who knew homeopathy (it has been around over 200 yrs) before the medical associations feared the competition and shut it down shortly after the 1918 flu epidemic (in which only 2% of people on homeopathy died but 98% of those using aspirin died), would not have seen club foot. Officially most doctors claim not to know why clubfoot happens in that they do not see or admit the correlation with nutritional factors, but they do recognize the association with toxic factors (go figure!). As a cat breeder and geneticist, I know this is the cause in cats and I agree with my friend who runs a childrens orthopedic hospital (Mowbray Cottage Hospital in Cape Town, which used to be for colored children only, where incidence was high) that nutrition is the single greatest predictive factor. She ran a program to turn that around and also to ensure early surgery for victims, with corporate donations, which was very successful in the 80s and 90s. I do not know if it is still going. I moved to USA in early 1998. To know whethere someone has club foot or polio, would need photos or a description. The difference is clear visually. Polio involves atrrophied limbs, not just a foot pointing the wrong way. Namaste, Irene -- Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom. P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220. www.Furryboots.info (Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy) "Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Following a discussion some while ago, when one well-informed subscriber told the rest of us that the BL website includes runs of early Grahams Town Journals ( <http://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2048/login?url=http://infoweb.newsbank.com?d b=WHNPX&d_collections=WHNPAFR1> Readex: World Newspaper Archive: African Newspapers, 1800-1922) & a number of other items potentially of value to historians of South African families, I set about finding out how those of you unable to visit the BL to register as readers could benefit from these and other materials. This was the advice I received on behalf of my friends: "If your friends completed the online pre-registration for a readers pass, and then upgraded to an online account (creating a username and password) they would then be able to log in and use the remote eresources at <https://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2443/login> https://eresources.remote.bl.uk:2443/login . They can pre-register at http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/inrrooms/stp/register/howreg/howtoregister.html and can then upgrade that registration at https://ssoa.bl.uk/idp/Authn/UserPassword " I think you may also find more to explore. Hazel Dakers, London UK researching: BIRNBAUM (Zgierz & Lodz, Poland), GOLD (Zgierz & Lodz, Poland), HEIMANN (Luegde, Germany & South Africa), NORDEN (London and South Africa) <http://www.hazeldakers.co.uk> www.hazeldakers.co.uk

Hi Darryl The names Francis and William are quite common in the descendants of Miles BOWKER (1820 Settler), but I do not have anyone with that combination of names married to a Doris Olive JONES, so I would have to agree that these people are not from the 1820 Settler BOWKER family. Paul Tanner-Tremaine, any comments? Ian Currie On 2015/04/03 02:00 PM, Darryl Allwright via wrote: > Good day > > I would like to find out more information on Doris Olive Jones born between > 1902-1910 and in 1961 lived at the Durban Deep Mine in Roodepoort. She was > married to a Francis William BOWKER (not 1820 Settler Family). Any > information would be appreciated > > Regards > > Darryl Allwright > > P O Box 166 > > Grahamstown > > 6140 > > Cell: 076-091-2764 > > Tel: 046-622-8134 (H) > > Fax: 086-714-0748 > > Researching: Allwright, Bold, Clayton, Edwards, Eva, Fisher, Gibbens,Gunn, > Hulley, Marshall, Openshaw, Retief(B6c6d2e2f11g6h1i1j1), Toerien, Whittal > and related families > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Good Morning all, I am going through the file on the RANDALL family, compiled I think by Tessa. On the section on young Mavis HOBBS Deborah LAING states Mavis was born with club feet, yet Herman LABSCHAGNE writes she had polio. Were the two conditions little known in those years and sometimes confused? As far as I understand polio is an infection and club feet is an heredity condition. Which did young Mavis have? Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Good day I would like to find out more information on Doris Olive Jones born between 1902-1910 and in 1961 lived at the Durban Deep Mine in Roodepoort. She was married to a Francis William BOWKER (not 1820 Settler Family). Any information would be appreciated Regards Darryl Allwright P O Box 166 Grahamstown 6140 Cell: 076-091-2764 Tel: 046-622-8134 (H) Fax: 086-714-0748 Researching: Allwright, Bold, Clayton, Edwards, Eva, Fisher, Gibbens,Gunn, Hulley, Marshall, Openshaw, Retief(B6c6d2e2f11g6h1i1j1), Toerien, Whittal and related families

Hi Listers I'm trying to help a friend of mine. All they have got is GEORGE DESMOND b. 5/12/1887 d. 7/10/1941 and his wife MARGARET b. 22/11/1887 d. 17/10/1945 I see there is a gravestone for them on Eggsa and they are buried in the North End Cemetary, PE. There is also a DN for him which I will request from the CT Archives. I was wondering there is anyone on the list that has anything about the family. They know they were from Ireland but that is that. Anyone searching this family or anyone who has anything else about this family would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Patty

I am looking for Cecelia Margaret Frances (nee Duncan, born +-1847 in Scotland) who moved from the UK to SA in about 1883 after the death of her husband (name unknown). She had four daughters: Margaret Frances, who died from pleurisy or pneumonia Adelaide Frances, who emigrated to Australia or America Alice Frances b. 1878 who married a lawyer named Armstrong who was a heavy drinker and whom she apparently had to lock in the house the night before a big case to prevent him from getting drunk! Florence Katherine Louise Frances b. 1879, married George Harris in 1900 in Port Elizabeth and died 26/07/1960 in Durban. She was my gr-grandmother. Information that we have tells us that Cecelia Margaret Frances was housekeeper to the Lovemore family (a prominent 1820 Settler family) on their farm in Queenstown. I would love any additional genealogical information about any of these women, as well as any anecdotal information.

Good Evening all, Can any lister assist with a site where I can find any audio recordings of the old SABC series, Die Suiker Kaskenades? I used to listen and enjoyed a thoroughly good chuckle. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Hi Paul Thanks for this info. I have a lot more info on my family tree. Do I send this to you directly? Regards Cheryl On 26/03/2015, at 4:13, Eighteen-Twenty Settlers <eighteentwenty@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > > I think I also came to the same conclusion that it was not a double barreled surname. I have some info on the Frederick Joplin families on my website at > > http://www.1820settlers.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I117281&tree=master > > and would appreciate any updates that you can let me have, to help make an accurate and complete tree of all the 1820 Settlers. Having the info on the website makes it easier for others to check, and submit updates for all to see. > > Many Thanks > > -- > Paul Tanner-Tremaine > Hampshire, England > email : eighteentwenty@btinternet.com > website : www.1820Settlers.com > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 25/3/15, Cheryl Behrens via <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Subject: [ZA-EC] Bowker-Joplin > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, 25 March, 2015, 6:00 > > Hi > > Not sure if I am doing this correctly but I am researching > the JOPLIN family tree. > > The surname is not BOWKER-JOPLIN but JOPLIN. However > BOWKER in the name is correct. > > Frederick Bowker JOPLIN was born in 1825 in England and was > the Rector in the Ramsey area. > His son was also named Frederick Bowker JOPLIN and he was > born in 1850. > His son was named Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN and he was > born in 1890 in the Huntingdonshire area. He served in > the WW1 as an engineer in the British Merchant Navy. > His boat was torpedoed by a German sub. I am not sure > when he came to South Africa but lived in the > Molteno/Queenstown area. He married Ivy Ruby HARRIS > who is Kate Olver HARRIS’ sister. Two brothers married two > sisters. > Ernest JOPLIN was Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN’s > brother. > > Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN was my husband’s maternal > grandfather. > > If anyone needs some info I shall be more than happy to > assist and if anyone has some info they can help me with, I > shall really appreciate it. > > Regards > Cheryl Behrens > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Hi Not sure if I am doing this correctly but I am researching the JOPLIN family tree. The surname is not BOWKER-JOPLIN but JOPLIN. However BOWKER in the name is correct. Frederick Bowker JOPLIN was born in 1825 in England and was the Rector in the Ramsey area. His son was also named Frederick Bowker JOPLIN and he was born in 1850. His son was named Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN and he was born in 1890 in the Huntingdonshire area. He served in the WW1 as an engineer in the British Merchant Navy. His boat was torpedoed by a German sub. I am not sure when he came to South Africa but lived in the Molteno/Queenstown area. He married Ivy Ruby HARRIS who is Kate Olver HARRIS’ sister. Two brothers married two sisters. Ernest JOPLIN was Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN’s brother. Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN was my husband’s maternal grandfather. If anyone needs some info I shall be more than happy to assist and if anyone has some info they can help me with, I shall really appreciate it. Regards Cheryl Behrens

Hi Patty How sure are you about his birth year? The reason I ask is that I see a William Hughes aged 16 House painter travelled to James Wood , hotelkeeper Bathurst St Grahamstown on the Coldstream II in Sept 1861 (Permit no.R1142/P1058). Travelling on the same boat was Bridget Kearney farm and housemaid age 18 who was travelling to Patrick Kearney labourer PE. I think I read on one of your earlier messages that these two ended up married but maybe I am getting muddled. This info from Esme Bull's Aided immigration from Britain to SA. 1857-1867. Kind regards Nikki -----Original Message----- From: Patty Myers via Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:17 PM To: south-africa@rootsweb.com ; SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] William Hughes Hi Listers I am still desperately trying to find how my 2 x great grandfather William Hughes came to South Africa from Ireland. He was born c. 1830. He ended up in Port Elizabeth as his marriage and the birth of his 3 children took place there. He died there in 1880. One's mind wonders sometimes if he was on a convict ship (anything was possible those days). I read up on the Neptune which arrived in 1849 in Simon's Bay but it was left to anchor in the bay because of the Anti-Convict sentiment at the time. I was even wondering if he could of jumped ship there. I've exhausted myself on trying to find something more about him. On his death record is just shows born Ireland, so I don't even know where in Ireland that would be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Patty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.935 / Virus Database: 4311.1.1/8870 - Release Date: 03/24/15 04:01:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.935 / Virus Database: 4311.1.1/8870 - Release Date: 03/24/15 04:01:00

Hi Listers I am still desperately trying to find how my 2 x great grandfather William Hughes came to South Africa from Ireland. He was born c. 1830. He ended up in Port Elizabeth as his marriage and the birth of his 3 children took place there. He died there in 1880. One's mind wonders sometimes if he was on a convict ship (anything was possible those days). I read up on the Neptune which arrived in 1849 in Simon's Bay but it was left to anchor in the bay because of the Anti-Convict sentiment at the time. I was even wondering if he could of jumped ship there. I've exhausted myself on trying to find something more about him. On his death record is just shows born Ireland, so I don't even know where in Ireland that would be. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Patty

Hi Cheryl, I think I also came to the same conclusion that it was not a double barreled surname. I have some info on the Frederick Joplin families on my website at http://www.1820settlers.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I117281&tree=master and would appreciate any updates that you can let me have, to help make an accurate and complete tree of all the 1820 Settlers. Having the info on the website makes it easier for others to check, and submit updates for all to see. Many Thanks -- Paul Tanner-Tremaine Hampshire, England email : eighteentwenty@btinternet.com website : www.1820Settlers.com -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 25/3/15, Cheryl Behrens via <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: Subject: [ZA-EC] Bowker-Joplin To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, 25 March, 2015, 6:00 Hi Not sure if I am doing this correctly but I am researching the JOPLIN family tree. The surname is not BOWKER-JOPLIN but JOPLIN.  However BOWKER in the name is correct. Frederick Bowker JOPLIN was born in 1825 in England and was the Rector in the Ramsey area. His son was also named Frederick Bowker JOPLIN and he was born in 1850. His son was named Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN and he was born in 1890 in the Huntingdonshire area.  He served in the WW1 as an engineer in the British Merchant Navy.  His boat was torpedoed by a German sub.  I am not sure when he came to South Africa but lived in the Molteno/Queenstown area.  He married Ivy Ruby HARRIS who is Kate Olver HARRIS’ sister. Two brothers married two sisters. Ernest JOPLIN was Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN’s brother. Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN was my husband’s maternal grandfather. If anyone needs some info I shall be more than happy to assist and if anyone has some info they can help me with, I shall really appreciate it.  Regards Cheryl Behrens ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cheryl Photo's of his gravestone can be viewed at: http://www.eggsa.org/librarySearch/searchGraves.htm Brian Benningfield Phones: 27(0)832759857 or 27(0)219758695    Fax: 27(0)866848582 Skype: brianben44   E-Mail: brian.ben44@gmail.com Researching: The BEN(N)INGFIELD; EYBERS; van TUBBERGH; DANIEL; VAN ASWEGEN; LATSKY and related families. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Behrens via Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 8:00 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Bowker-Joplin Hi Not sure if I am doing this correctly but I am researching the JOPLIN family tree. The surname is not BOWKER-JOPLIN but JOPLIN. However BOWKER in the name is correct. Frederick Bowker JOPLIN was born in 1825 in England and was the Rector in the Ramsey area. His son was also named Frederick Bowker JOPLIN and he was born in 1850. His son was named Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN and he was born in 1890 in the Huntingdonshire area. He served in the WW1 as an engineer in the British Merchant Navy. His boat was torpedoed by a German sub. I am not sure when he came to South Africa but lived in the Molteno/Queenstown area. He married Ivy Ruby HARRIS who is Kate Olver HARRIS’ sister. Two brothers married two sisters. Ernest JOPLIN was Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN’s brother. Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN was my husband’s maternal grandfather. If anyone needs some info I shall be more than happy to assist and if anyone has some info they can help me with, I shall really appreciate it. Regards Cheryl Behrens ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2250 / Virus Database: 4311/8870 - Release Date: 03/24/15

Hi Cheryl There are several files for Frederick Bowker JOPLIN in the Cape Town archives including Death Notice (yr 1912) and a Liqu & Dist account (yr 1913). Also, in the Orange Free State archives: CIVIL RECORDS. TRIALS AND APPLICATIONS. JAMES HENRY HOLMES VERSUS KATE OLVER HOLMES, FORMERLY BOWKER-JOPLIN, BORN HARRIS. And in the Natal Archives: BEATTIE, ROBERT BRYDEN. BORN IN SCOTLAND. S/SP BEATTIE, FLORENCE BOWKER. (BORN JOPLIN) DECEASED ESTATE. To search all archive records in SA, go to: http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300dl Not sure if this is one of yours as well? - from: GSSA Cemetery CD ver 7.0 JOPLIN, Jean Langford Born: 8 Jun 1922 Died: 13 Nov 1959 Buried: Main Cemetery, Kingwilliamstown, District Kingwilliamstown,Eastern Cape, RSA Note: Jean Langford Joplin Married name: Peinke Mother of Carol Peinke. Sect. 5L/R6. Good luck with your research Brian Benningfield Phones: 27(0)832759857 or 27(0)219758695    Fax: 27(0)866848582 Skype: brianben44   E-Mail: brian.ben44@gmail.com Researching: The BEN(N)INGFIELD; EYBERS; van TUBBERGH; DANIEL; VAN ASWEGEN; LATSKY and related families. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl Behrens via Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 8:00 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Bowker-Joplin Hi Not sure if I am doing this correctly but I am researching the JOPLIN family tree. The surname is not BOWKER-JOPLIN but JOPLIN. However BOWKER in the name is correct. Frederick Bowker JOPLIN was born in 1825 in England and was the Rector in the Ramsey area. His son was also named Frederick Bowker JOPLIN and he was born in 1850. His son was named Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN and he was born in 1890 in the Huntingdonshire area. He served in the WW1 as an engineer in the British Merchant Navy. His boat was torpedoed by a German sub. I am not sure when he came to South Africa but lived in the Molteno/Queenstown area. He married Ivy Ruby HARRIS who is Kate Olver HARRIS’ sister. Two brothers married two sisters. Ernest JOPLIN was Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN’s brother. Frederick Bowker David JOPLIN was my husband’s maternal grandfather. If anyone needs some info I shall be more than happy to assist and if anyone has some info they can help me with, I shall really appreciate it. Regards Cheryl Behrens ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2250 / Virus Database: 4311/8870 - Release Date: 03/24/15

Hi Marielle Your photos of the St George's Anglican church are also now on the web. Thank you for this lovely contribution. - Your link: http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=3184108

Sometimes in this game you set out looking for one thing and find something else! I was looking for the baptisms of Frances Jane Clarissa FORD and James Samuel FORD (eventually found courtesy of SEAX in St.Mary Magdalene, East Ham), and in the process came across a burial record for another sister! New Gravel Pit Meeting House, Paradise Fields (RG4/4244 National Archives) Ellen Hester, daughter of James Edward and Frances FORD of Homerton buried 22 August 1818, aged 12 months Then, by a happy chance, I looked at the entries immediately before this entry and immediately after. Louise, daughter of Philip and Louise MARILLIER of Homerton buried 4 August 1818 aged 4 months (family grave) Louise, wife of Philip MARILLIER of Homerton buried 1 December 1818 aged 22 years So, having set out looking for Frances, I found her sister's burial and the burial of the first wife and child of the man she would later marry!! I have updated the extra information files on eggsa but currently only new files are showing under Recently Updated as I am doing some housekeeping and didn't want loads of older files showing up as Updated when I had just been fixing links and adding lines to older tables to make them more legible. The only new file I have added since the Settler Returns is one for Mary DIXON/BARNES/HARPER Off on holiday this weekend. Hope to get back to the Grahamstown Journal in April. Sue