Hi Rod I am related to a Martin and Kathy Pickard in York. I'll see if they know of the Joan McLeod. I am also related to a Zillah McLeod so it is possible that there may be a connection. Will email Kathy post-haste. Did your Joan Mary McLeod marry Charles Lionel Munsie and Edward Alfred Gebhardt? If so, she was the daughter of Charles Alexander McLeod and Zillah Mary Penty and I can give you a whole load of family info. Kind regards Megan Hudson From: <south-africa-bounces@rootsweb.com> on behalf of rodg via <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: <rodg@tiscali.co.za>, <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, 15 September 2015 08:07 To: SA List <south-africa-l@rootsweb.com>, "south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com" <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Pickard Family Tree Good Morning from a wet Cape Town, Would anyone know how to contact Charles Stephen PICKARD in England? He is the site owner of the PICKARD Family Tree on Geni which I cannot get access to. I have an enquiry regarding Joan Mary MCLEOD who is linked to my family. If anyone has contact with or would be willing to pass my address to him I would be most grateful. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Good Morning from a wet Cape Town, Would anyone know how to contact Charles Stephen PICKARD in England? He is the site owner of the PICKARD Family Tree on Geni which I cannot get access to. I have an enquiry regarding Joan Mary MCLEOD who is linked to my family. If anyone has contact with or would be willing to pass my address to him I would be most grateful. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Greetings to All Willem Gerhardus Engelbrecht * 8-7-1914 + 5-3-1976 x Paulina de Beer * 13-2-1921 + 3-1-2006 There were two children born from this marriage, names and dates unknown. Your input would be appreciated. Regards Malcolm de Beer Email: malcolm.debeer@gmail.com

Thanks Sue, I did not know about Mary Ann Pote. Please keep the transcripts coming. Regards, Dan On 10 September 2015 at 14:10, Sue Mackay via < south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Transcribed from originals at the British Library > > > > > > http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php/grahamstown-journal/1249-grahamstown-journal-1869-4-october-to-december > > > > > Sue > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Dan and Jill Daniel* 67 Villa Fontana Lutie Katz Road PO Box 706 Yzerfontein 7351 Dan: 074-575-1902 Jill: 074-073-0602

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The "Pat via" unsubscribe is not me. I am still here. yea! Pat(ricia) Frykberg

That's good! On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Pat Frykberg via < south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: > The "Pat via" unsubscribe is not me. I am still here. yea! > > Pat(ricia) Frykberg > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Thanks Sue! Picked up two dates and one marriage I was missing. Keep the transcripts coming. Regards, Dan On 4 September 2015 at 13:17, Sue Mackay via < south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Transcribed from originals at the British Library > > > > > > http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php/grahamstown-journal/1243-grahamstown-journal-1869-2-april-to-june > > > > > > Sue > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Dan and Jill Daniel* 67 Villa Fontana Lutie Katz Road PO Box 706 Yzerfontein 7351 Dan: 074-575-1902 Jill: 074-073-0602

Thanks Mike Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Mike Wright" <mike@albany1820.com> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 06:26:47 To: <rodg@tiscali.co.za>; <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: <mike@albany1820.com> Subject: RE: [ZA-EC] Elliott/Brent/Booth Hi Rod I'd say that it slipped in "accidentally" through misinformation at some stage - some great-auntie got it mixed up on her hand-written tree and that ended up being passed around until it became "fact". Alternatively, it was not unknown in those days for a woman who remarried to be referred to in certain circles or at certain times by both of her married names IF she had children by her first marriage, which she did. Even her gravestone records her first husband's name rather than her second husband! Regards Mike Wright -----Original Message----- From: rodg [mailto:rodg@tiscali.co.za] Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2015 6:02 AM To: mike@albany1820.com; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Elliott/Brent/Booth Thanks Mark. Still how Booth slipped in as a given name? ------Original Message------ From: Mike Wright To: rodg@tiscali.co.za To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: mike@albany1820.com Subject: RE: [ZA-EC] Elliott/Brent/Booth Sent: Sep 6, 2015 6:56 AM Hi Rod Grace remarried after the death of Thomas BRENT in 1836. She married Benjamin BOOTH in 1854, as per the following entry in the Methodist Parish Records for Bathurst: Entry #62 Husband: Benjamin BOOTH, No Entry, Widower, Gentleman, Grahamstown Wife: Grace BRENT, No Entry, Widow Date: 12/21/1854 Witnesses: Thomas TARR, Mary TARR Have a look at her entry on my site: http://www.albany1820.com/getperson.php?personID=I14372 She was born ELLIOTT (her parents were John and Elizabeth, according to her DN.) Regards Mike Wright -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rodg via Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2015 5:34 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Elliott/Brent/Booth Good Morning from a warm 6 am morning, Going through old ELLIOTT emails received in Feb 2010 I have found an anomally. In an email from Mike WRIGHT on 19 Feb 2010 he refers to Grace ELLIOTT as the wife of Thomas BRENT when she arrived at the Cape. I an email posted by Marielle on 19 Feb 2010 Grace is referred to as Grace Booth ELLIOTT. Grace did marry a Benjamin BOOTH on 21 Dec 1854. Did Grace revert to her maiden name? Or was there a BOOTH connection further back in her lines? Can anyone please assist. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device

Hi Rod I'd say that it slipped in "accidentally" through misinformation at some stage - some great-auntie got it mixed up on her hand-written tree and that ended up being passed around until it became "fact". Alternatively, it was not unknown in those days for a woman who remarried to be referred to in certain circles or at certain times by both of her married names IF she had children by her first marriage, which she did. Even her gravestone records her first husband's name rather than her second husband! Regards Mike Wright -----Original Message----- From: rodg [mailto:rodg@tiscali.co.za] Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2015 6:02 AM To: mike@albany1820.com; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Elliott/Brent/Booth Thanks Mark. Still how Booth slipped in as a given name? ------Original Message------ From: Mike Wright To: rodg@tiscali.co.za To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: mike@albany1820.com Subject: RE: [ZA-EC] Elliott/Brent/Booth Sent: Sep 6, 2015 6:56 AM Hi Rod Grace remarried after the death of Thomas BRENT in 1836. She married Benjamin BOOTH in 1854, as per the following entry in the Methodist Parish Records for Bathurst: Entry #62 Husband: Benjamin BOOTH, No Entry, Widower, Gentleman, Grahamstown Wife: Grace BRENT, No Entry, Widow Date: 12/21/1854 Witnesses: Thomas TARR, Mary TARR Have a look at her entry on my site: http://www.albany1820.com/getperson.php?personID=I14372 She was born ELLIOTT (her parents were John and Elizabeth, according to her DN.) Regards Mike Wright -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rodg via Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2015 5:34 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Elliott/Brent/Booth Good Morning from a warm 6 am morning, Going through old ELLIOTT emails received in Feb 2010 I have found an anomally. In an email from Mike WRIGHT on 19 Feb 2010 he refers to Grace ELLIOTT as the wife of Thomas BRENT when she arrived at the Cape. I an email posted by Marielle on 19 Feb 2010 Grace is referred to as Grace Booth ELLIOTT. Grace did marry a Benjamin BOOTH on 21 Dec 1854. Did Grace revert to her maiden name? Or was there a BOOTH connection further back in her lines? Can anyone please assist. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device

Hi Rod Grace remarried after the death of Thomas BRENT in 1836. She married Benjamin BOOTH in 1854, as per the following entry in the Methodist Parish Records for Bathurst: Entry #62 Husband: Benjamin BOOTH, No Entry, Widower, Gentleman, Grahamstown Wife: Grace BRENT, No Entry, Widow Date: 12/21/1854 Witnesses: Thomas TARR, Mary TARR Have a look at her entry on my site: http://www.albany1820.com/getperson.php?personID=I14372 She was born ELLIOTT (her parents were John and Elizabeth, according to her DN.) Regards Mike Wright -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rodg via Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2015 5:34 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Elliott/Brent/Booth Good Morning from a warm 6 am morning, Going through old ELLIOTT emails received in Feb 2010 I have found an anomally. In an email from Mike WRIGHT on 19 Feb 2010 he refers to Grace ELLIOTT as the wife of Thomas BRENT when she arrived at the Cape. I an email posted by Marielle on 19 Feb 2010 Grace is referred to as Grace Booth ELLIOTT. Grace did marry a Benjamin BOOTH on 21 Dec 1854. Did Grace revert to her maiden name? Or was there a BOOTH connection further back in her lines? Can anyone please assist. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Mark. Still how Booth slipped in as a given name? ------Original Message------ From: Mike Wright To: rodg@tiscali.co.za To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: mike@albany1820.com Subject: RE: [ZA-EC] Elliott/Brent/Booth Sent: Sep 6, 2015 6:56 AM Hi Rod Grace remarried after the death of Thomas BRENT in 1836. She married Benjamin BOOTH in 1854, as per the following entry in the Methodist Parish Records for Bathurst: Entry #62 Husband: Benjamin BOOTH, No Entry, Widower, Gentleman, Grahamstown Wife: Grace BRENT, No Entry, Widow Date: 12/21/1854 Witnesses: Thomas TARR, Mary TARR Have a look at her entry on my site: http://www.albany1820.com/getperson.php?personID=I14372 She was born ELLIOTT (her parents were John and Elizabeth, according to her DN.) Regards Mike Wright -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rodg via Sent: Sunday, 6 September 2015 5:34 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Elliott/Brent/Booth Good Morning from a warm 6 am morning, Going through old ELLIOTT emails received in Feb 2010 I have found an anomally. In an email from Mike WRIGHT on 19 Feb 2010 he refers to Grace ELLIOTT as the wife of Thomas BRENT when she arrived at the Cape. I an email posted by Marielle on 19 Feb 2010 Grace is referred to as Grace Booth ELLIOTT. Grace did marry a Benjamin BOOTH on 21 Dec 1854. Did Grace revert to her maiden name? Or was there a BOOTH connection further back in her lines? Can anyone please assist. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerryR wireless device ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Good Morning from a warm 6 am morning, Going through old ELLIOTT emails received in Feb 2010 I have found an anomally. In an email from Mike WRIGHT on 19 Feb 2010 he refers to Grace ELLIOTT as the wife of Thomas BRENT when she arrived at the Cape. I an email posted by Marielle on 19 Feb 2010 Grace is referred to as Grace Booth ELLIOTT. Grace did marry a Benjamin BOOTH on 21 Dec 1854. Did Grace revert to her maiden name? Or was there a BOOTH connection further back in her lines? Can anyone please assist. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

Transcribed from originals at the British Library http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/index.php/grahamstown-journal/1243-grahamstown-journal-1869-2-april-to-june Sue

Hi Brian Thank you so much and everyone else for your help. The response has been amazing. There is one document as detailed below. I would be happy with a transcript but I feel it may be a long document. I have e mailed the staff but as yet had no reply ! Regards Karen Sent From my I phone > On 2 Sep 2015, at 15:51, Brian Benningfield via <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Rob > Photographs are allowed with special permission given on request. However, > not sure if an Eggsa "operator" would be given such permission - which, I > guess, doesn't help Karen very much. Her best bet would be to get someone in > CT to do a transcription (If she gets no joy from the Archive staff) > Karen could you be more specific as to what it is you're looking for - > someone in Cape Town may then be able to assist? > > Regards > > Brian Benningfield > Phones: 27(0)832759857 or 27(0)219758695 Fax: 27(0)866848582 > Skype: brianben44 > > Researching: The BEN(N)INGFIELD; EYBERS; van TUBBERGH; DANIEL; VAN ASWEGEN; > LATSKY family histories. > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rob > Jones via > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:24 PM > To: 'Marielle ford'; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] NAAIRS research > > Hi Marielle, > Eggsa do not do Cape Town as photo's are not allowed. > Regards, > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Marielle ford via > Sent: 01 September 2015 18:03 > To: My FamilyTree; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] NAAIRS research > > > Pay someone from www.eggsa.org to do it for you. > > Sent from Marielle's iPad > >>> On 01 Sep 2015, at 3:12 AM, My FamilyTree via >> <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> Dear listeners >> >> I was wondering if someone knows how I can get a copy of the document > below from NAAIRS >> >> I have e mailed several researchers but have not had any reply. >> >>>> DEPOT* KAB >>>> *SOURCE* CSC >>>> *TYPE* LEER >>>> *VOLUME_NO* 1/2/1/145 >>>> *SYSTEM* 01 >>>> *REFERENCE* 7 >>>> *PART* 1 >>>> *DESCRIPTION* RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS OF CRIMINAL CASE. SECOND > WESTERN CIRCUIT >>>> COURT, VICTORIA WEST. THE KING VERSUS*CHARLES* > WILLIAM*COLEMAN.* >>>> BIGAMY. >>>> *STARTING* 19150000 >> >> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated >> >> Kind regards >> Karen >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rob Photographs are allowed with special permission given on request. However, not sure if an Eggsa "operator" would be given such permission - which, I guess, doesn't help Karen very much. Her best bet would be to get someone in CT to do a transcription (If she gets no joy from the Archive staff) Karen could you be more specific as to what it is you're looking for - someone in Cape Town may then be able to assist? Regards Brian Benningfield Phones: 27(0)832759857 or 27(0)219758695    Fax: 27(0)866848582 Skype: brianben44   Researching: The BEN(N)INGFIELD; EYBERS; van TUBBERGH; DANIEL; VAN ASWEGEN; LATSKY family histories. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rob Jones via Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:24 PM To: 'Marielle ford'; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] NAAIRS research Hi Marielle, Eggsa do not do Cape Town as photo's are not allowed. Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marielle ford via Sent: 01 September 2015 18:03 To: My FamilyTree; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] NAAIRS research Pay someone from www.eggsa.org to do it for you. Sent from Marielle's iPad > On 01 Sep 2015, at 3:12 AM, My FamilyTree via <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Dear listeners > > I was wondering if someone knows how I can get a copy of the document below from NAAIRS > > I have e mailed several researchers but have not had any reply. > >>> DEPOT* KAB >>> *SOURCE* CSC >>> *TYPE* LEER >>> *VOLUME_NO* 1/2/1/145 >>> *SYSTEM* 01 >>> *REFERENCE* 7 >>> *PART* 1 >>> *DESCRIPTION* RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS OF CRIMINAL CASE. SECOND WESTERN CIRCUIT >>> COURT, VICTORIA WEST. THE KING VERSUS*CHARLES* WILLIAM*COLEMAN.* >>> BIGAMY. >>> *STARTING* 19150000 > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated > > Kind regards > Karen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message