Hallo Maud I also had difficulty to access the site but last night I managed to access the site again and to my dismay that site has also now migrated to a pay site - you can access the basic information but to view more details of my own marriage I now have to subscribe and pay a US$ 5 per month. Kind regards Dennis Pretorius Krugersdorp South Africa Tel - 011-762-8911 Cel - 083-679-8541 Fax - 086-609-8541 -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Maud Flink via Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 5:37 PM To: South Africa Eastern Cape Subject: [ZA-EC] Gendata I have been unable to get on the Gendata site. Not sure if I have used the correct details. Is anyone else having problems? Maud Flink ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

both I think Pamela, because the more people who see your names and interest, the more likelihood of it triggering another line of research or knowledge! I still cannot find that nurse's name.! The one who was working on the Boer War Princess Alexandra Nurses.. It's there somewhere...............! Pat : <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - Nursestrained locally > > >> Thank you, I will happily get back to you with my grandmother's details. >> Only question now is, should I email directly to you or via >> south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com ? >

Hi All As far as I know, Richmond Hill in Port Elizabeth was called Hospital Hill at some stage and the original hospital (this is what I think I have read) stands there still.  It's in the ground of the old school buildings used as a Teachers' Centre at the cor of Lutman and Landsdowne Roads.  The building is almost where Cross Street leads into Landsdowne. Sue Wessels ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: Trudie Marais via <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, 21 September 2015, 19:28 Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] [ZA-EC : Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp Hi All. Is there anyone who can let us know where the nurses were trained in Port Elizabeth before Sharley Cribb, which I saw after sending my e-mail only started in 1949 as a nurses training college, although the building was built in 1897 as a private house.  Sorry about that, but so we learn by helping others.  Ask aunty Google on “Sharley cribb” for more info on Sharley Cribb. There is an Addington Hospital in Durban. My eldest was born there. Thank you very much. Trudie Marais ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All. Is there anyone who can let us know where the nurses were trained in Port Elizabeth before Sharley Cribb, which I saw after sending my e-mail only started in 1949 as a nurses training college, although the building was built in 1897 as a private house. Sorry about that, but so we learn by helping others. Ask aunty Google on “Sharley cribb” for more info on Sharley Cribb. There is an Addington Hospital in Durban. My eldest was born there. Thank you very much. Trudie Marais

Thank you so much.  That is of great help Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message -------- From: Trudie Marais via <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Date:21/09/2015 18:11 (GMT+02:00) To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] [ZA-EC : Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - Nurses trained locally Hi Pamela and Norma. The P.E. Concentration camp is not so easy to find, as very few people today know about its location. The Monument is hardly visible from the roadside, tugged away after the vibrocrete wall. To add to confusion, the entrance to the Mount Road Police Station today is in Lennox Street. The sports field is just opposite the charge office entrance. Name changing has taken place a few times. Before it used to be called John Browns Dam. It was also called Old Grey Sports ground and South African Police Sports Ground. Today it is also referred to as Freedom Park. This is where the tents used to be. John Browns Dam was not a built dam, but was so called because water accumulated there after rains. If you do not know about the concentration camp, you will not notice the monument.!!! In the early years, the whole area where the Green Acres Shopping Centre as well as part of the Town House complex are today, used to be the Race Course. Hence the name around the shopping centre is still bearing today....Ring Road and Ascot Road, as the horse racing took place around the ring. The area is slightly raised from the old tent area to the top. The Collegiate Girls School used to be situated off Whites Road. In later years it was rebuilt very close to the Green Acres Area. The nurses used to work at the Provincial Hospital, (which was originally situated on the Hill), but was educated at the Sharley Cribb Institution, close to St Georges Park. I shall only be able to go and take a photo for you after the middle of October, if you have patience till then. Hopefully someone can do it for you before then. Let me know if someone does it for you. Good luck. Trudie Marais ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pamela and Norma. The P.E. Concentration camp is not so easy to find, as very few people today know about its location. The Monument is hardly visible from the roadside, tugged away after the vibrocrete wall. To add to confusion, the entrance to the Mount Road Police Station today is in Lennox Street. The sports field is just opposite the charge office entrance. Name changing has taken place a few times. Before it used to be called John Browns Dam. It was also called Old Grey Sports ground and South African Police Sports Ground. Today it is also referred to as Freedom Park. This is where the tents used to be. John Browns Dam was not a built dam, but was so called because water accumulated there after rains. If you do not know about the concentration camp, you will not notice the monument.!!! In the early years, the whole area where the Green Acres Shopping Centre as well as part of the Town House complex are today, used to be the Race Course. Hence the name around the shopping centre is still bearing today....Ring Road and Ascot Road, as the horse racing took place around the ring. The area is slightly raised from the old tent area to the top. The Collegiate Girls School used to be situated off Whites Road. In later years it was rebuilt very close to the Green Acres Area. The nurses used to work at the Provincial Hospital, (which was originally situated on the Hill), but was educated at the Sharley Cribb Institution, close to St Georges Park. I shall only be able to go and take a photo for you after the middle of October, if you have patience till then. Hopefully someone can do it for you before then. Let me know if someone does it for you. Good luck. Trudie Marais

I have been unable to get on the Gendata site. Not sure if I have used the correct details. Is anyone else having problems? Maud Flink

I am still here Pamela.. I have a book about the women during that war. So if you give me her name I will look it up, If I don't have it it will surely be with............................will have to look up her name... never on the tip of my tongue when I want it! She is an officer in the Queen Alexandra Nurses and has compiled what I think is a definitive list. Give me a day or two and send me you names? Pat -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pamela Lewin via" <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:56 AM To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ZA-EC] Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - Nurses trainedlocally > Hi all, > > I have not been subscribed to this group for over ten years and am happy > to be back! > > At that time, I was delighted with the information that was able to > receive about my own roots. Being sixth-generation South African, many of > my forebears first arrived in SA via the Eastern Cape. > > Can anybody please tell me if there is a source for information on these > nurses at the above Concentration Camp? My paternal grandmother, was born > in PE, and I recall, hearing as a girl, that she had nursed at this > Concentration Camp. > > Does Patricia Fryberg of New Zealand still subscribe to the list? I > believe that perviously she wrote about this camp. I have not found > anything in my archive searches. > > Thank you. > > Pam Lewin Victoria BC Canada .......researching Anita Josephine Mossot ex > Girls Collegiate Schoo PE, 21 Cuyler Crescent PE > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10672 - Release Date: 09/20/15 >

I have been interested to see the posts about Nurses in the Boer War. My great grandmother, Agnes Beatrice Clara BAKER's South African Death Notice describes her as a Nurse, born in Brighton England. She died in 1904 and at that time was living in Addington , Durban. I understand that there is a big hospital in Addington today. I have wondered if there is any sort of list of qualified Nurses who worked there. I have been unable to find out much about her and the only record of her maiden name which is on the record of her first marriage, to ROBERTS in 1879 in Bloemfontein Cathedral, is BOWLEYN. I have tried all the spelling variations I can think of but without success. She must be there somewhere, but where! Kind regards Alexandra Coak -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Frykberg via Sent: 21 September 2015 04:31 To: Pamela Lewin; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - Nurses trainedlocally I am still here Pamela.. I have a book about the women during that war. So if you give me her name I will look it up, If I don't have it it will surely be with............................will have to look up her name... never on the tip of my tongue when I want it! She is an officer in the Queen Alexandra Nurses and has compiled what I think is a definitive list. Give me a day or two and send me you names? Pat -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pamela Lewin via" <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:56 AM To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com> Subject: [ZA-EC] Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - Nurses trainedlocally > Hi all, > > I have not been subscribed to this group for over ten years and am > happy to be back! > > At that time, I was delighted with the information that was able to > receive about my own roots. Being sixth-generation South African, > many of my forebears first arrived in SA via the Eastern Cape. > > Can anybody please tell me if there is a source for information on > these nurses at the above Concentration Camp? My paternal grandmother, > was born in PE, and I recall, hearing as a girl, that she had > nursed at this Concentration Camp. > > Does Patricia Fryberg of New Zealand still subscribe to the list? I > believe that perviously she wrote about this camp. I have not found > anything in my archive searches. > > Thank you. > > Pam Lewin Victoria BC Canada .......researching Anita Josephine Mossot > ex Girls Collegiate Schoo PE, 21 Cuyler Crescent PE > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10672 - Release Date: > 09/20/15 > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10673 - Release Date: 09/21/15 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10673 - Release Date: 09/21/15

http://www2.lib.uct.ac.za/mss/bccd/ hopefully come throught this time All the best Elaine Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - Nursestrained locally both I think Pamela, because the more people who see your names and interest, the more likelihood of it triggering another line of research or knowledge! I still cannot find that nurse's name.! The one who was working on the Boer War Princess Alexandra Nurses.. It's there somewhere...............! Pat : Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - Nursestrained locally > > >> Thank you, I will happily get back to you with my grandmother's details. >> Only question now is, should I email directly to you or via >> south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com ? > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Norma here is the whole database for the camps All the best Elaine Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - Nursestrained locally Hi, just jumping in on your thread here. Can anyone tell me where the Port Elizabeth camp was situated. Somewhere it states on the PE race course initially and then moved to higher ground, but can you advise exactly where and does anyone have any pics?? Norma On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Pat Frykberg via < south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: > both I think Pamela, because the more people who see your names and > interest, the more likelihood of it triggering another line of research or > knowledge! I still cannot find that nurse's name.! The one who was > working > on the Boer War Princess Alexandra Nurses.. It's there > somewhere...............! > Pat > > : <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - > Nursestrained locally > > > > > > >> Thank you, I will happily get back to you with my grandmother's > >> details. > >> Only question now is, should I email directly to you or via > >> south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com ? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > -- Telephone Cell 072 590 2919 Telephone Land Line 033 330 6004 Fax 033 330 6005 Email norma.patrick8@gmail.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, just jumping in on your thread here. Can anyone tell me where the Port Elizabeth camp was situated. Somewhere it states on the PE race course initially and then moved to higher ground, but can you advise exactly where and does anyone have any pics?? Norma On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Pat Frykberg via < south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> wrote: > both I think Pamela, because the more people who see your names and > interest, the more likelihood of it triggering another line of research or > knowledge! I still cannot find that nurse's name.! The one who was working > on the Boer War Princess Alexandra Nurses.. It's there > somewhere...............! > Pat > > : <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - > Nursestrained locally > > > > > > >> Thank you, I will happily get back to you with my grandmother's details. > >> Only question now is, should I email directly to you or via > >> south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com ? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Telephone Cell 072 590 2919 Telephone Land Line 033 330 6004 Fax 033 330 6005 Email norma.patrick8@gmail.com

Hi again my dear old friends, with another call for help. I am enclosing Franco's email My only contact with Keiskamahoek was when we applied for a teaching job there in the early 1950s at the Anglican Mission School. But they opted to close rather than follow CNO policy of the government. The book should be an asset in Grahamstown Library? Thanks again Pat From: Franco Frescura Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 3:45 AM To: Pat Frykberg ; sherlock@global.co.za Subject: The British-German Legion Good day, I found your emails on the Rootsweb website, and hope you will not mind this unsolicited email. I am professor of Architecture at UKZN, and am currently completing a book on the history and architecture of Keiskammahoek, where the British-German legion was stationed. I was hoping you might address me to sources regarding their presence there. Specifically I am also looking for an illustration of their uniforms, and data regarding their social life during the war and after, once some of them had settled down to family life at the "Hoek". With kind regards, Franco Frescura No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10669 - Release Date: 09/20/15

Hi, I would like to contact Millicent Emslie - the email I had for her is no longer working. She was researching the Milne family Regards Alison Drysdale

Hi, Just wondering if anyone is researching the Evert family. I am interested in Frank Evert (John Bernard) deceased 1932 and his son of the same name. Regards Alison Drysdale

Hello Pat Very happy to read that you are still on the list! Thank you, I will happily get back to you with my grandmother's details. Only question now is, should I email directly to you or via south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com ? My best wishes to you, Pam Begin forwarded message: > From: Pat Frykberg <patfryk@clear.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - Nurses trained locally > Date: September 20, 2015 at 8:31:12 PM PDT > To: Pamela Lewin <pamlewin@shaw.ca>, south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > > I am still here Pamela.. I have a book about the women during that war. So > if you give me her name I will look it up, If I don't have it it will > surely be with............................will have to look up her name... never on the tip of my tongue when I want it! She is an officer in the Queen Alexandra Nurses and has compiled what I think is a definitive list. Give me a day or two and send me you names? > Pat > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Pamela Lewin via" <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 10:56 AM > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [ZA-EC] Boer War Port Elizabeth Concentration Camp - Nurses > trained locally > >> Hi all, >> >> I have not been subscribed to this group for over ten years and am happy >> to be back! >> >> At that time, I was delighted with the information that was able to >> receive about my own roots. Being sixth-generation South African, many of >> my forebears first arrived in SA via the Eastern Cape. >> >> Can anybody please tell me if there is a source for information on these >> nurses at the above Concentration Camp? My paternal grandmother, was born >> in PE, and I recall, hearing as a girl, that she had nursed at this >> Concentration Camp. >> >> Does Patricia Fryberg of New Zealand still subscribe to the list? I >> believe that perviously she wrote about this camp. I have not found >> anything in my archive searches. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Pam Lewin Victoria BC Canada .......researching Anita Josephine Mossot ex >> Girls Collegiate Schoo PE, 21 Cuyler Crescent PE >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2015.0.6140 / Virus Database: 4419/10672 - Release Date: 09/20/15

Hi all, I have not been subscribed to this group for over ten years and am happy to be back! At that time, I was delighted with the information that was able to receive about my own roots. Being sixth-generation South African, many of my forebears first arrived in SA via the Eastern Cape. Can anybody please tell me if there is a source for information on these nurses at the above Concentration Camp? My paternal grandmother, was born in PE, and I recall, hearing as a girl, that she had nursed at this Concentration Camp. Does Patricia Fryberg of New Zealand still subscribe to the list? I believe that perviously she wrote about this camp. I have not found anything in my archive searches. Thank you. Pam Lewin Victoria BC Canada .......researching Anita Josephine Mossot ex Girls Collegiate Schoo PE, 21 Cuyler Crescent PE

Hi Alison, There is a Margaret MILNE who works for the Queenstown Old Boys Assoc. Is she part of your fam? Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Scott and Alison Drysdale via <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Sender: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 22:02:45 To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: Scott and Alison Drysdale <sadrysdale@bigpond.com>, south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] contact Hi, I would like to contact Millicent Emslie - the email I had for her is no longer working. She was researching the Milne family Regards Alison Drysdale ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning, Could any lister going to the Pta Archives do a lookup for me. My late father in 1970 adopted a son whom he christened Colin Mark GEBHARDT b 12 March 1970 died of cancer in Nov 2012 Last week I received a copy of his preadoption birth certificate giving his name as Heinrich SORAGGI. The only file on NAAIRS is: TAB Source MHG Type Leer Ref 93/67 Desc SORAGGI, Giuliano Surviving spouse Johanna Elizabeth SORAGGI (born BOUTHUYS) or BONTHUYS This is the only file of that name and might help to try to trace his biological mother. Any help would be appreciated. Regards Rod g Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

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