Thanks very much to all of you for your assistance, really appreciated. Please keep your eyes open for any hubbards too please, i would be most grateful. kind regards Sybil On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Nikki <alnic@polka.co.za> wrote: > Hi Fay,Sybil & Ian > > When Rhodesia was mentioned it suddenly occurred to me that a look at the > Zim death registers on Family search might be worth a try, to reveal more > on > the mysterious Mr Butler! > Bingo! > His name was Frank, he and Kathleen were married in Middelburg C.P. > here is a link to Kathleen's death notice > > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14683-33044-18?cc=1837900&wc=7118358 > > Not much to go on but at least he has a Christian name now! > > Kind regards > Nikki > Sedgefield > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Currie > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:08 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] BUTLER > > Hi Fay, Sybil and Nikki > > Kathleen Bliss BOWKER was my grandmother's sister, but unfortunately I > never met her or either of her husbands. I know that she and her first > husband used to live in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe), somewhere near Bulawayo, I > believe. Her first husband's full name was Charles Leslie Cumming, but > he was known as Leslie. Their son Max (Gordon Maxwell) died in 1935 > (NAAIRS). I too, have not been able to find any additional information > on Mr. Butler. > > Regards > Ian Currie > > > On 2012/10/11 05:44 PM, Fay Lea wrote: > > Hi Sybil & Nikki, > > I have the following in my Cradock Family file, also sadly no names for > > her > > Butler husband. > > > > > > 1 Kathleen Bliss Bowker b: 1885 d: 1930 > > .. +Leslie Cumming b: 1894 > > ...... 2 Gordon Maxwell Cumming b: 1916 > > *2nd Husband of Kathleen Bliss Bowker: > > > > .. +Butler > > > > Kind regards > > Fay > > > >> Hi Sybil > >> There is one mention of a BUTLER in the Rex Genealogy but not much to > >> go on i am afraid. > >> > >> Kathleen Bliss BOWKER 1885-1930 had a second marriage to a BUTLER ( no > >> initials given) would have been after 1916. > >> > >> kind regards > >> Nikki > >> Sedgefield. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: sybil banisterjones > >> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:11 AM > >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE > >> Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Hubbard family > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: sybil banisterjones <sybilbj@gmail.com> > >> Date: Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM > >> Subject: Hubbard family > >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape-request@rootsweb.com > >> > >> > >> Hi Nikki > >> > >> Any Hubbards or Butlers? > >> > >> THanks for your trouble > >> Kind regards > >> sybil Banister-Jones > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: > >> 10/07/12 20:34:00 > >> > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: > >> 10/07/12 20:34:00 > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > >> message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12 > 08:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12 > 08:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD Port Elizabeth, Friday, October 3, 1986. BIRTHS. GRIFFITHS. – To Paul and Michelle (nee BRADFIELD), a son born Tuesday, October 2, 1986 in the Kingsbury Nursing Home, Claremont, Cape Town. MOULTON. – To Roy and Adrienne (nee CHANDLER), a daughter born on Wednesday, October 1, 1986, at the Park Lane Nursing Home, Johannesburg. ENGAGEMENTS. BURGER. – COUSINS. Desireé daughter of Gavin COUSINS and the late Norma COUSINS of Johannesburg and Benjé, son of Ben and Kitty BURGER of Fort Beaufort are happy to announce their engagement. SINNOTT. – CLARENCE. Shaun and Michelle, are happy to announce their engagement on Wednesday, October 2, 1986. THOMSON. – ASHMEAD. The engagement is announced between Cheryl, youngest daughter of Crofton and the late Rhona ASHMEAD and step-daughter of Avice, and Mark, only son of Malcolm and Anne Thomson of Plettenberg Bay. DEATHS. FOSTER. – Anthony Raymond (Tony), sympathy to Therzia and Mieder on their tragic loss. From Angie, Gerry and children. HAMMERSLEY. – Sophia, passed away on Wednesday, October 1, 1986, age 94. Remembered by her brother and family. RUSSELL. – Melville Noel (Hookie), passed away on Tuesday, September 30, 1986 at the Provincial Hospital. Missed by his wife, Johanna (Langie) and the President and members of the Western Suburbs Bowling Club. FUNERAL NOTICES. FOSTER. – Anthony Raymond (Tony. The memorial service will be held today (Friday), October 3, 1986 at 3 pm at the Lutheran Church, Martin Road, Charlo. HAMMERSLEY. – Sophia, passed away on Wednesday, October 1, 1986 at the Provincial Hospital. Funeral service will take place today (Friday), October 3, at 2 pm, in the Methodist Church, Marshall Road, Humewood. Thence to the South End Cemetery. WEHMEYER. – Gerhardus Coenraad, passed away at his farm Verkeerde Drif, Elands River on Thursday, October 2, 1986. The funeral service will take place from the D.R. Church, Elands River tomorrow (Saturday), October 4, at 11 am. IN MEMORIAM. ANNETTS. – Kathleen, passed away a year ago. Remembered by Noreen, Rodney, Cheryl, Kev, Dol and Deb. BROWN. – Robin. Remembered by Mom, Dad, Godfrey and Mabel, Colleen and Mark and their families. KRUGER. – Eric Peter, passed away October 3, 1984 at 51 years of age. MAN YAN. – Chan, passed away October 3, 1971. Remembered by his children and grandchildren. ON HING. – Bertie, passed away October 3, 1978. Remembered by Ronnie, Pauline, Doreen, Edward and Krystal. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

Thank you so much for this Nikki. They got married in Middelberg, Cape as this was Kathleen's hometown. I will have to scour the church registers for a marriage date! Once again, thanks so much. Regards Ian On 2012/10/11 11:31 PM, Nikki wrote: > Hi Fay,Sybil & Ian > > When Rhodesia was mentioned it suddenly occurred to me that a look at the > Zim death registers on Family search might be worth a try, to reveal more on > the mysterious Mr Butler! > Bingo! > His name was Frank, he and Kathleen were married in Middelburg C.P. > here is a link to Kathleen's death notice > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14683-33044-18?cc=1837900&wc=7118358 > > Not much to go on but at least he has a Christian name now! > > Kind regards > Nikki > Sedgefield > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Currie > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:08 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] BUTLER > > Hi Fay, Sybil and Nikki > > Kathleen Bliss BOWKER was my grandmother's sister, but unfortunately I > never met her or either of her husbands. I know that she and her first > husband used to live in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe), somewhere near Bulawayo, I > believe. Her first husband's full name was Charles Leslie Cumming, but > he was known as Leslie. Their son Max (Gordon Maxwell) died in 1935 > (NAAIRS). I too, have not been able to find any additional information > on Mr. Butler. > > Regards > Ian Currie > > > On 2012/10/11 05:44 PM, Fay Lea wrote: >> Hi Sybil & Nikki, >> I have the following in my Cradock Family file, also sadly no names for >> her >> Butler husband. >> >> >> 1 Kathleen Bliss Bowker b: 1885 d: 1930 >> .. +Leslie Cumming b: 1894 >> ...... 2 Gordon Maxwell Cumming b: 1916 >> *2nd Husband of Kathleen Bliss Bowker: >> >> .. +Butler >> >> Kind regards >> Fay >> >>> Hi Sybil >>> There is one mention of a BUTLER in the Rex Genealogy but not much to >>> go on i am afraid. >>> >>> Kathleen Bliss BOWKER 1885-1930 had a second marriage to a BUTLER ( no >>> initials given) would have been after 1916. >>> >>> kind regards >>> Nikki >>> Sedgefield. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sybil banisterjones >>> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:11 AM >>> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE >>> Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Hubbard family >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: sybil banisterjones <sybilbj@gmail.com> >>> Date: Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM >>> Subject: Hubbard family >>> To: south-africa-eastern-cape-request@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> Hi Nikki >>> >>> Any Hubbards or Butlers? >>> >>> THanks for your trouble >>> Kind regards >>> sybil Banister-Jones >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: >>> 10/07/12 20:34:00 >>> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: >>> 10/07/12 20:34:00 >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12 > 08:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12 08:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Fay,Sybil & Ian When Rhodesia was mentioned it suddenly occurred to me that a look at the Zim death registers on Family search might be worth a try, to reveal more on the mysterious Mr Butler! Bingo! His name was Frank, he and Kathleen were married in Middelburg C.P. here is a link to Kathleen's death notice https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14683-33044-18?cc=1837900&wc=7118358 Not much to go on but at least he has a Christian name now! Kind regards Nikki Sedgefield -----Original Message----- From: Ian Currie Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:08 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] BUTLER Hi Fay, Sybil and Nikki Kathleen Bliss BOWKER was my grandmother's sister, but unfortunately I never met her or either of her husbands. I know that she and her first husband used to live in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe), somewhere near Bulawayo, I believe. Her first husband's full name was Charles Leslie Cumming, but he was known as Leslie. Their son Max (Gordon Maxwell) died in 1935 (NAAIRS). I too, have not been able to find any additional information on Mr. Butler. Regards Ian Currie On 2012/10/11 05:44 PM, Fay Lea wrote: > Hi Sybil & Nikki, > I have the following in my Cradock Family file, also sadly no names for > her > Butler husband. > > > 1 Kathleen Bliss Bowker b: 1885 d: 1930 > .. +Leslie Cumming b: 1894 > ...... 2 Gordon Maxwell Cumming b: 1916 > *2nd Husband of Kathleen Bliss Bowker: > > .. +Butler > > Kind regards > Fay > >> Hi Sybil >> There is one mention of a BUTLER in the Rex Genealogy but not much to >> go on i am afraid. >> >> Kathleen Bliss BOWKER 1885-1930 had a second marriage to a BUTLER ( no >> initials given) would have been after 1916. >> >> kind regards >> Nikki >> Sedgefield. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sybil banisterjones >> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:11 AM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE >> Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Hubbard family >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: sybil banisterjones <sybilbj@gmail.com> >> Date: Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM >> Subject: Hubbard family >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape-request@rootsweb.com >> >> >> Hi Nikki >> >> Any Hubbards or Butlers? >> >> THanks for your trouble >> Kind regards >> sybil Banister-Jones >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: >> 10/07/12 20:34:00 >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: >> 10/07/12 20:34:00 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12 08:34:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12 08:34:00

Thank you Nikki! That not only gave me the name of her husband I was also able to add an exact place where she died (Queen's Hotel, Salisbury on the 28th May 1931. I have been able to add her Death Notice into my file. Best wishes, Tombi Peck ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nikki" <alnic@polka.co.za> To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Kathleen Bliss BOWKER / CUMMINGS /BUTLER > Hi Fay,Sybil & Ian > > When Rhodesia was mentioned it suddenly occurred to me that a look at the > Zim death registers on Family search might be worth a try, to reveal more > on > the mysterious Mr Butler! > Bingo! > His name was Frank, he and Kathleen were married in Middelburg C.P. > here is a link to Kathleen's death notice > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14683-33044-18?cc=1837900&wc=7118358 > > Not much to go on but at least he has a Christian name now! > > Kind regards > Nikki > Sedgefield > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Currie > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:08 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] BUTLER > > Hi Fay, Sybil and Nikki > > Kathleen Bliss BOWKER was my grandmother's sister, but unfortunately I > never met her or either of her husbands. I know that she and her first > husband used to live in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe), somewhere near Bulawayo, I > believe. Her first husband's full name was Charles Leslie Cumming, but > he was known as Leslie. Their son Max (Gordon Maxwell) died in 1935 > (NAAIRS). I too, have not been able to find any additional information > on Mr. Butler. > > Regards > Ian Currie > > > On 2012/10/11 05:44 PM, Fay Lea wrote: >> Hi Sybil & Nikki, >> I have the following in my Cradock Family file, also sadly no names for >> her >> Butler husband. >> >> >> 1 Kathleen Bliss Bowker b: 1885 d: 1930 >> .. +Leslie Cumming b: 1894 >> ...... 2 Gordon Maxwell Cumming b: 1916 >> *2nd Husband of Kathleen Bliss Bowker: >> >> .. +Butler >> >> Kind regards >> Fay >> >>> Hi Sybil >>> There is one mention of a BUTLER in the Rex Genealogy but not much to >>> go on i am afraid. >>> >>> Kathleen Bliss BOWKER 1885-1930 had a second marriage to a BUTLER ( no >>> initials given) would have been after 1916. >>> >>> kind regards >>> Nikki >>> Sedgefield. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sybil banisterjones >>> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:11 AM >>> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE >>> Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Hubbard family >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: sybil banisterjones <sybilbj@gmail.com> >>> Date: Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM >>> Subject: Hubbard family >>> To: south-africa-eastern-cape-request@rootsweb.com >>> >>> >>> Hi Nikki >>> >>> Any Hubbards or Butlers? >>> >>> THanks for your trouble >>> Kind regards >>> sybil Banister-Jones >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: >>> 10/07/12 20:34:00 >>> >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: >>> 10/07/12 20:34:00 >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >>> message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12 > 08:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12 > 08:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fay, Sybil and Nikki Kathleen Bliss BOWKER was my grandmother's sister, but unfortunately I never met her or either of her husbands. I know that she and her first husband used to live in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe), somewhere near Bulawayo, I believe. Her first husband's full name was Charles Leslie Cumming, but he was known as Leslie. Their son Max (Gordon Maxwell) died in 1935 (NAAIRS). I too, have not been able to find any additional information on Mr. Butler. Regards Ian Currie On 2012/10/11 05:44 PM, Fay Lea wrote: > Hi Sybil & Nikki, > I have the following in my Cradock Family file, also sadly no names for her > Butler husband. > > > 1 Kathleen Bliss Bowker b: 1885 d: 1930 > .. +Leslie Cumming b: 1894 > ...... 2 Gordon Maxwell Cumming b: 1916 > *2nd Husband of Kathleen Bliss Bowker: > > .. +Butler > > Kind regards > Fay > >> Hi Sybil >> There is one mention of a BUTLER in the Rex Genealogy but not much to >> go on i am afraid. >> >> Kathleen Bliss BOWKER 1885-1930 had a second marriage to a BUTLER ( no >> initials given) would have been after 1916. >> >> kind regards >> Nikki >> Sedgefield. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sybil banisterjones >> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:11 AM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE >> Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Hubbard family >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: sybil banisterjones <sybilbj@gmail.com> >> Date: Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM >> Subject: Hubbard family >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape-request@rootsweb.com >> >> >> Hi Nikki >> >> Any Hubbards or Butlers? >> >> THanks for your trouble >> Kind regards >> sybil Banister-Jones >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: >> 10/07/12 20:34:00 >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: >> 10/07/12 20:34:00 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks for your help Fay. Kind regards Sybil On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Fay Lea <cancun@icon.co.za> wrote: > Hi Sybil & Nikki, > I have the following in my Cradock Family file, also sadly no names for her > Butler husband. > > > 1 Kathleen Bliss Bowker b: 1885 d: 1930 > .. +Leslie Cumming b: 1894 > ...... 2 Gordon Maxwell Cumming b: 1916 > *2nd Husband of Kathleen Bliss Bowker: > > .. +Butler > > Kind regards > Fay > > > Hi Sybil > > There is one mention of a BUTLER in the Rex Genealogy but not much to > > go on i am afraid. > > > > Kathleen Bliss BOWKER 1885-1930 had a second marriage to a BUTLER ( no > > initials given) would have been after 1916. > > > > kind regards > > Nikki > > Sedgefield. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sybil banisterjones > > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:11 AM > > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE > > Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Hubbard family > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: sybil banisterjones <sybilbj@gmail.com> > > Date: Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM > > Subject: Hubbard family > > To: south-africa-eastern-cape-request@rootsweb.com > > > > > > Hi Nikki > > > > Any Hubbards or Butlers? > > > > THanks for your trouble > > Kind regards > > sybil Banister-Jones > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: > > 10/07/12 20:34:00 > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: > > 10/07/12 20:34:00 > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sybil & Nikki, I have the following in my Cradock Family file, also sadly no names for her Butler husband. 1 Kathleen Bliss Bowker b: 1885 d: 1930 .. +Leslie Cumming b: 1894 ...... 2 Gordon Maxwell Cumming b: 1916 *2nd Husband of Kathleen Bliss Bowker: .. +Butler Kind regards Fay > Hi Sybil > There is one mention of a BUTLER in the Rex Genealogy but not much to > go on i am afraid. > > Kathleen Bliss BOWKER 1885-1930 had a second marriage to a BUTLER ( no > initials given) would have been after 1916. > > kind regards > Nikki > Sedgefield. > > -----Original Message----- > From: sybil banisterjones > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 11:11 AM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE > Subject: [ZA-EC] Fwd: Hubbard family > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: sybil banisterjones <sybilbj@gmail.com> > Date: Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:06 PM > Subject: Hubbard family > To: south-africa-eastern-cape-request@rootsweb.com > > > Hi Nikki > > Any Hubbards or Butlers? > > THanks for your trouble > Kind regards > sybil Banister-Jones > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: > 10/07/12 20:34:00 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.930 / Virus Database: 2441.1.1/5316 - Release Date: > 10/07/12 20:34:00 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I will tell my story as simply as possible and hope for a response!! My father in law JACOBUS CONELIUS CORDIER BORN 10 OCT 1928 died 4 June 2012 - According to his baptism certificate his mother was ESTER FRANCINA JANSEN VAN RENSBURG she died when my father was 21 +- 1949 in P.E. I only have a name and a wedding photo – no other relatives or any info on where they stayed or were she was buried. HIS father was JOHN ADAM CORDIER, born in 13 June 1899 he died 1 Nov 1989 in Hummasdorp P.E - HE WORKED AT SHOOKS AND BOXED AND RETIRED THERE IN 1962 – I HAVE THE CLOCK THEY GAVE HIM ON RETIREMENT. I know my father has/had a brother in AUSTRALIA NAMED WILFRED CORDIER but he never contacted the family again after he left in 1959 – 1960 I believe he was born between 1930 – 1935 – AS THIS IS THE ONLY CLOSE RELATIVE HE WILL MOST POSSIBLY BE ABLE TO GIVE INFO ON HIS MOTHER - WHERE SHE WAS BORN / BURIED I am currently trying to get info on John Adam Cordier parents, siblings and Ester Francina Jansen van Rensburg parents and siblings I am desperately trying to find someone to help trace WILFRED CORDIER or any info on JOHN ADAM CORDIER AND HIS WIFE ESTER FRANCINA JANSEN VAN RENSBURG. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it. I attach a photo of Wilfred around 1955 and a baptism certificate of JACOBUS CORNELIUS CORDIER for your records. Kind regards

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. Port Elizabeth, Monday, September 8, 1986. BIRTHS. BARTLETT. – To Basil and Nicky, a daughter and sister for Cindy and Natasha, born on Thursday, September 4, 1986 at Sandford. SLABBERT. – To Jan and Marie, a daughter born on Saturday, September 6, 1986 at Sandford. WYBROW. – To Mark and Dawn (nee BILLSON), a son and brother for Lauren on Friday, September 6, 1985. ENGAGEMENTS. COOPER. – COUNIHAN. The engagement is announced between Pam, only daughter of the late Dr Frank and Mrs Pat COUNIHAN and Robert, only son of Major Neville and the late Mrs COOPER. DEATHS. BACON. – Reg, passed away on Friday, September 5, 1986. Missed by his wife Betsy, and children Andrew, Susan and Howard; by Brian and Doreen; Johan and Marge; son-in-law Clive TAVERNER and grandchildren. DU PLESSIS. – Francois, passed away on Friday, September 5, 1986. Remembered by Managers, Staff and families of Mono Pumps. DU PREEZ. – Jill our mother, passed away on Friday, September 5, 1986. Remembered by Peter, Debbie and Stephen; Bryan and Pat; Trevor and Kathleen. FUNERAL NOTICES. BROWN. – Eric Maurice, passed away on Friday, September 5, 1986. A service will be held in St Bartholomew’s Church, Market Street, Grahamstown, at 2.30 pm, today (Monday), September 8, followed by a private cremation. DU PREEZ. – Jill, , passed away on Friday, September 5, 1986. Service will take place in St Hugh’s Church, Newton Park, tomorrow (Tuesday), September 9, at 10 am. Cremation private. GRAHAM. – Cedric, passed away on Wednesday, September 3, 1986. Service will take place in St Cuthbert’s Anglican Church, today (Monday), September 8, at 3 pm. Cremation private. KRITZINGER. – Ignatius Michael, mourned by his wife Lettie and children Johann, André and Anton and families. Service will take place in the D.R. Church, Kensington tomorrow (Tuesday), September 9, at 3 pm. Thence to the Forest Hill Cemetery for interment. VAN GREUNEN. – Flip, mourned by his wife Rita and children Corrie, Danie, Eddie, Flip, and families. Service will take place at the New Bible Life Hall, Havelock Street, today (Monday), September 8, at 11 am. Thence to the Forest Hill Cemetery for interment. IN MEMORIAM. DEACON. – Laraine, September 6, 1985. Remembered by Dawn and Sylvia. SCHEFFER. – Johanna Aletta (Toxie), passed away September 8, 1976. Remembered by Denton, André, Laurette and Julia. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

Thank you very much indeed Sue, you are really keeping my nose to the grindstone with all your recent submissions.... It's been wonderful being able to add so much additional information into the files. We may not always say thank you as often as we should; but your name is up in shining lights! Best wishes, Tombi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Mackay" <sue@sausalito.demon.co.uk> To: <south-africa-immigrants-british@rootsweb.com>; <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com>; <south-africa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:39 AM Subject: [ZA-EC] Extracts from the Cape Frontier Times Sep-Dec 1853 Transcribed from CO53/20 at the National Archives in Kew, London 13 September 1853 A report has reached town that the notorious Hans BRANDER died lately in the neighbourhood of the Kei of the wounds received in the engagement in the Fish River Bush, between the police, under Walter CURRIE, and his rebel band. UMLANGENI the prophet is also reported to be dead. At the late interview between His Excellency and the Gaika chiefs, MACOMO complained that the land assigned to them was too small for them to live in, and all the chiefs were dissatisfied, when the Governor assured them that there was no prospect of getting back the Amatolas. 18 October 1853 DIED after a brief illness at Colesberg on the 4th October 1853, aged 27 years and 5 months, Mr. John Daniel GIBBON, only son of Mr. Edward GIBBON, of the same place, leaving a widow and two children to deplore their irreparable loss. 25 October 1853 To the Electors of the Eastern Province Five important constituencies of the Eastern Province have, according to the provisions of the Constitution Ordinance, invited Mr. Henry BLAINE to offer himself as a Candidate for a Seat in the Legislative Council; and in placing the names of his requisitionists prominently before the Electors of the Eastern Province, Mr. BLAINE's Committee feel that any commendation they could bestow upon that gentleman could not add to the general estimation in which his character is held even in quarters where he is personally unknown. The publication of the names of the influential body of gentlemen, who have thus spontaneously expressed their conviction that Mr. BLAINE is qualified in all respects to do justice to the interests of this Province in the important position in the Councils of this Colony to which they propose to call him, renders it scarcely necessary for the Committee to urge any recommendation in his favor. It is, however, due to Mr. BLAINE, in support of his claims to the suffrages of the Electors to state, that he is at the head of one of the principal mercantile houses in the Eastern Province, and therefore deeply interested in its prosperity - and that his a Frontier resident of some 14 years standing, during which period he has devoted his time and his means to the promotion of every public measure that has been set on foot for the advancement of the community - that he has been a zealous and successful supporter of all the public institutions of this place (some of which he has been instrumental in establishing), having for their object the benefit of the whole Eastern Province. It will at once be acknowledged, that the influence of Mr. BLAINE, as evidenced by the Requisitions addressed to him from different parts of this Province, is neither local - nor is it that of party or sect - but it is an influence which wholly derives its strength from the unbounded confidence which is felt in his character as a private gentleman - in his unimpeachable integrity and straightforwardness as a man of business, and his ability and independence as a public man. Such are the acknowledged claims of this gentleman to the suffrages of the Electors of the Eastern Province, who, his friends feel assured, will not fail to show by their votes at the coming Election that they know how to appreciate the private excellence and public worth of a gentleman, into whose hands they may intrust their interests with perfect confidence. N. BIRKENRUTH Chairman of Committee Graham's Town, Aug 15th 1853 GRAHAM'S TOWN Names of Requisitionists W.R. THOMPSON Sr Vr. W. CURRIE Vr. N. BIRKENRUTH T.H. COLE Robert HOLLAND John George FRANKLIN J. STANDEN W. HAYCRAFT William OGILVIE W.M. JAFFRAY Charles POTE Peter POTE B.D. BELL, Fort Beaufort George JARVIS Vr. F. CARLISLE Vr. George J. NICHOLLS A.W. BECK G. PALMER W. WRIGHT Thomas NELSON James TEMLETT G. CUMMING, Graham's Town F. I'ONS S. TILDESLEY W. POTTER Joseph YELLING Charles BENDELACK Henry FULLER George FULLER Amb. George CAMPBELL Thomas PHILIPPS Vr. John CARLISLE W. Guybon ATHERSTONE MD S.D. MANDY SOMERSET Names of Requisitionists George Edw. JOSEPH Vr. James O'REILLEY Vr. Hougham HUDSON Jun., Civil Commissioner Edmund PAIN William Wilson MASKEW Benjamin SOLOMON Philip Richard MARRELLIER Vr. Benjamin ANDERSON James McMASTER David McMASTER Willem Adriaan VAN AARDT Carolus Joh. VAN AARDT Louis Jacobus VAN AARDT Robert HART Sen., Vr. Johannes Cornelius Jacobus COETZEE Alfred TROLLIP Quintin SCOTT Charles Pinchon WEBBER William Hencorn SMITH Alfred PEACOCK Charles BEAMISH William GILL Walter PEACOCK John BATTISS James LEONARD Willem Christian BOUWER, Field Commissioner James PERKINS Vr. Robert Tosswell VEITCH Robert HART Jun. Pieter Christiaan MASSYN CRADOCK Names of Requisitionists C.H. CALDECOTT C. SCANLAN Toger VAN ABO H. MILLER J.G. VAN BUUREN J.F.G. VAN ABO John Edward NELSON F.S. PHILPS Charles BROWN John HUGHES L. SCHRYVER Alfred SOLOMON P.W. BOUWER S.J. SMIT W.H. PIETERSEN John HARVEY B. TROLLIP Jacob TROLLIP R.M. ARMSTRONG Edward DAVIES Sl. Taylor JAMES J. BATTESON F.P. KIDSON G. DUFFIELD Sen. Kidger TUCKER Peter K. WRIGHT Jas. G. DAVEY BURGHER's DORP Names of Requisitionists Alfred ROBERTS J. BOARDMAN J. Bice BARNES H.J. MONTGOMERY N. MEYER Wm. Musgrave HOPLEY Jun. George LIVINGSTON O.W. BACK Maurice JOSEPH Edward WAY Richard H. SYMONS R. SMITH W.M. REED H. BERGMAN J.G. BENDER J.B.H. LÖRING Cyrus SMITH W.G. SCALEY C. MEANER T. WARNER Edw. MOORE H. BENDER H. TISE Thos. BAYLON Jno. JOSEPH FORT BEAUFORT Names of Requisitionists Robert BOVEY Vr. Renier Christiaan ELS J.H. BOSCH W. STANTON Jun. Henry James LLOYD Sen. Matthew BERRY Robert LAWRIE Richard RALPH Thomas WARD C. HOLLIDAY A.J. McKENZIE N. ELLIOTT William EMETT B. WINDELL W. WALKER Henry ULYATE Sen. John GUNN R. HALLACK J. WILLIAMS Charles DUFFY M. ANDERSON G.B. CURLE R.J. PAINTER Wm. CARTWRIGHT R. LLOYD James HOWELL James Shedrick WADE David MILLS George W. CLARKE Thomas PARKER Wm. FINNAUGHTY B. ERASMUS H.T. LLOYD J.A. HOHNE James SAVORY 1 November 1853 Mulish Obstinacy in Dress Our young men of the present day run about with black stripes down their legs - not unlike the legs of mules. Why not carry the likeness further and allow the stripes, as in the case of mules, to run all over their coats? Surely he who dresses himself like a mule must be "next to a donkey" and accordingly cannot make himself too ridiculous. A sharp young friend of ours, who has studied heraldry merely to joke upon it, calls these thick heavy stripes "the bar sinisters of taste". 22 November 1853 It now turns out that the public chest at Fort Beaufort was stolen and robbed by no less a personage than the district gaoler, being a colored man named CRAWFORD. His accomplices were three soldiers of the 91st, who were in gaol, charged with stealing a sheep, during which the four committed the robbery. The soldiers were however acquitted, and had retuned to Fort Fordyce, where they have since been apprehended. The thieves were discovered owing to a Hottentot, who had also been acquitted of some charge at the Circuit Court, and who, it appears, knew something about the robbery, having under the influence of liquor given a clue to the discovery of the perpetrators. 29 November 1853 To Let That valuable Agricultural and Grazing Farm called Rokeby Park The property of Geo. DYASON Esq, measuring about 3,000 acres, situate on the road to Bathurst, and distant about 16 miles from Graham's Town. For further particulars apply to Mr. F. CARLISLE in Graham's Town. 6 December 1853 Farm for Sale The Undersigned have instructed Mr. J.D. VAN DYK, Auctioneer, to sell by Public Auction at Cradock on Saturday the 24th day of December next The Perpetual Quitrent Farm Riet Fontein In extent 2,999 morgen, contiguous to the Town Lands of Cradock. The farm is so well known that it requires no description as to pasturage &c. There are several substantial Buildings on the Farm, and it is plentifully supplied with Water, the Great Fish River passing through it. All particulars as to the terms &c can be had from the Auctioneer, or Mr. J.J. SANDERS, Cradock, or from either of the Subscribers JARVIE & Co N. BIRKENRUTH Graham's Town, 3rd Dec 1853. 13 December 1853 BIRTH on Sunday 4th inst, Mrs E.T. TAYLOR of a Daughter. Graham's Town Dec 12 1853. 20 December 1853 We regret to state that Mr. P.W.R. DIXON, of Colesburg, on returning wit his family from the Kowie where they had been to spend a few days, was unfortunately thrown off the waggon-box, as he was driving a waggon and eight horses, and fell under the wheel which passed over him, but we are happy to add without doing him serious injury. His friends will be glad to learn that he is now in a fair way of recovery. 27 December 1853 Another Village on the Eastern Frontier The Farm known as the Mineral Baths, the property of Mr. BEVAN, and situated about eighteen miles from Port Elizabeth, between Graaff-Reinet and Graham's Town, is announced to be sold at an early date, as will be seen by an advertisement which we publish today. The farm will be subdivided, and about 30 erven - the greater portion of which will be water-erven - will be submitted for competition. A field of excellent forage has just been reaped, yielding 1,500 bundles for every muid of seed - thus giving the extraordinary return of 9,000 for 104 sown, and this without any manure. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Transcribed from CO53/20 at the National Archives in Kew, London 13 September 1853 A report has reached town that the notorious Hans BRANDER died lately in the neighbourhood of the Kei of the wounds received in the engagement in the Fish River Bush, between the police, under Walter CURRIE, and his rebel band. UMLANGENI the prophet is also reported to be dead. At the late interview between His Excellency and the Gaika chiefs, MACOMO complained that the land assigned to them was too small for them to live in, and all the chiefs were dissatisfied, when the Governor assured them that there was no prospect of getting back the Amatolas. 18 October 1853 DIED after a brief illness at Colesberg on the 4th October 1853, aged 27 years and 5 months, Mr. John Daniel GIBBON, only son of Mr. Edward GIBBON, of the same place, leaving a widow and two children to deplore their irreparable loss. 25 October 1853 To the Electors of the Eastern Province Five important constituencies of the Eastern Province have, according to the provisions of the Constitution Ordinance, invited Mr. Henry BLAINE to offer himself as a Candidate for a Seat in the Legislative Council; and in placing the names of his requisitionists prominently before the Electors of the Eastern Province, Mr. BLAINE’s Committee feel that any commendation they could bestow upon that gentleman could not add to the general estimation in which his character is held even in quarters where he is personally unknown. The publication of the names of the influential body of gentlemen, who have thus spontaneously expressed their conviction that Mr. BLAINE is qualified in all respects to do justice to the interests of this Province in the important position in the Councils of this Colony to which they propose to call him, renders it scarcely necessary for the Committee to urge any recommendation in his favor. It is, however, due to Mr. BLAINE, in support of his claims to the suffrages of the Electors to state, that he is at the head of one of the principal mercantile houses in the Eastern Province, and therefore deeply interested in its prosperity – and that his a Frontier resident of some 14 years standing, during which period he has devoted his time and his means to the promotion of every public measure that has been set on foot for the advancement of the community – that he has been a zealous and successful supporter of all the public institutions of this place (some of which he has been instrumental in establishing), having for their object the benefit of the whole Eastern Province. It will at once be acknowledged, that the influence of Mr. BLAINE, as evidenced by the Requisitions addressed to him from different parts of this Province, is neither local – nor is it that of party or sect – but it is an influence which wholly derives its strength from the unbounded confidence which is felt in his character as a private gentleman – in his unimpeachable integrity and straightforwardness as a man of business, and his ability and independence as a public man. Such are the acknowledged claims of this gentleman to the suffrages of the Electors of the Eastern Province, who, his friends feel assured, will not fail to show by their votes at the coming Election that they know how to appreciate the private excellence and public worth of a gentleman, into whose hands they may intrust their interests with perfect confidence. N. BIRKENRUTH Chairman of Committee Graham’s Town, Aug 15th 1853 GRAHAM’S TOWN Names of Requisitionists W.R. THOMPSON Sr Vr. W. CURRIE Vr. N. BIRKENRUTH T.H. COLE Robert HOLLAND John George FRANKLIN J. STANDEN W. HAYCRAFT William OGILVIE W.M. JAFFRAY Charles POTE Peter POTE B.D. BELL, Fort Beaufort George JARVIS Vr. F. CARLISLE Vr. George J. NICHOLLS A.W. BECK G. PALMER W. WRIGHT Thomas NELSON James TEMLETT G. CUMMING, Graham’s Town F. I’ONS S. TILDESLEY W. POTTER Joseph YELLING Charles BENDELACK Henry FULLER George FULLER Amb. George CAMPBELL Thomas PHILIPPS Vr. John CARLISLE W. Guybon ATHERSTONE MD S.D. MANDY SOMERSET Names of Requisitionists George Edw. JOSEPH Vr. James O’REILLEY Vr. Hougham HUDSON Jun., Civil Commissioner Edmund PAIN William Wilson MASKEW Benjamin SOLOMON Philip Richard MARRELLIER Vr. Benjamin ANDERSON James McMASTER David McMASTER Willem Adriaan VAN AARDT Carolus Joh. VAN AARDT Louis Jacobus VAN AARDT Robert HART Sen., Vr. Johannes Cornelius Jacobus COETZEE Alfred TROLLIP Quintin SCOTT Charles Pinchon WEBBER William Hencorn SMITH Alfred PEACOCK Charles BEAMISH William GILL Walter PEACOCK John BATTISS James LEONARD Willem Christian BOUWER, Field Commissioner James PERKINS Vr. Robert Tosswell VEITCH Robert HART Jun. Pieter Christiaan MASSYN CRADOCK Names of Requisitionists C.H. CALDECOTT C. SCANLAN Toger VAN ABO H. MILLER J.G. VAN BUUREN J.F.G. VAN ABO John Edward NELSON F.S. PHILPS Charles BROWN John HUGHES L. SCHRYVER Alfred SOLOMON P.W. BOUWER S.J. SMIT W.H. PIETERSEN John HARVEY B. TROLLIP Jacob TROLLIP R.M. ARMSTRONG Edward DAVIES Sl. Taylor JAMES J. BATTESON F.P. KIDSON G. DUFFIELD Sen. Kidger TUCKER Peter K. WRIGHT Jas. G. DAVEY BURGHER’s DORP Names of Requisitionists Alfred ROBERTS J. BOARDMAN J. Bice BARNES H.J. MONTGOMERY N. MEYER Wm. Musgrave HOPLEY Jun. George LIVINGSTON O.W. BACK Maurice JOSEPH Edward WAY Richard H. SYMONS R. SMITH W.M. REED H. BERGMAN J.G. BENDER J.B.H. LÖRING Cyrus SMITH W.G. SCALEY C. MEANER T. WARNER Edw. MOORE H. BENDER H. TISE Thos. BAYLON Jno. JOSEPH FORT BEAUFORT Names of Requisitionists Robert BOVEY Vr. Renier Christiaan ELS J.H. BOSCH W. STANTON Jun. Henry James LLOYD Sen. Matthew BERRY Robert LAWRIE Richard RALPH Thomas WARD C. HOLLIDAY A.J. McKENZIE N. ELLIOTT William EMETT B. WINDELL W. WALKER Henry ULYATE Sen. John GUNN R. HALLACK J. WILLIAMS Charles DUFFY M. ANDERSON G.B. CURLE R.J. PAINTER Wm. CARTWRIGHT R. LLOYD James HOWELL James Shedrick WADE David MILLS George W. CLARKE Thomas PARKER Wm. FINNAUGHTY B. ERASMUS H.T. LLOYD J.A. HOHNE James SAVORY 1 November 1853 Mulish Obstinacy in Dress Our young men of the present day run about with black stripes down their legs – not unlike the legs of mules. Why not carry the likeness further and allow the stripes, as in the case of mules, to run all over their coats? Surely he who dresses himself like a mule must be “next to a donkey” and accordingly cannot make himself too ridiculous. A sharp young friend of ours, who has studied heraldry merely to joke upon it, calls these thick heavy stripes “the bar sinisters of taste”. 22 November 1853 It now turns out that the public chest at Fort Beaufort was stolen and robbed by no less a personage than the district gaoler, being a colored man named CRAWFORD. His accomplices were three soldiers of the 91st, who were in gaol, charged with stealing a sheep, during which the four committed the robbery. The soldiers were however acquitted, and had retuned to Fort Fordyce, where they have since been apprehended. The thieves were discovered owing to a Hottentot, who had also been acquitted of some charge at the Circuit Court, and who, it appears, knew something about the robbery, having under the influence of liquor given a clue to the discovery of the perpetrators. 29 November 1853 To Let That valuable Agricultural and Grazing Farm called Rokeby Park The property of Geo. DYASON Esq, measuring about 3,000 acres, situate on the road to Bathurst, and distant about 16 miles from Graham’s Town. For further particulars apply to Mr. F. CARLISLE in Graham’s Town. 6 December 1853 Farm for Sale The Undersigned have instructed Mr. J.D. VAN DYK, Auctioneer, to sell by Public Auction at Cradock on Saturday the 24th day of December next The Perpetual Quitrent Farm Riet Fontein In extent 2,999 morgen, contiguous to the Town Lands of Cradock. The farm is so well known that it requires no description as to pasturage &c. There are several substantial Buildings on the Farm, and it is plentifully supplied with Water, the Great Fish River passing through it. All particulars as to the terms &c can be had from the Auctioneer, or Mr. J.J. SANDERS, Cradock, or from either of the Subscribers JARVIE & Co N. BIRKENRUTH Graham’s Town, 3rd Dec 1853. 13 December 1853 BIRTH on Sunday 4th inst, Mrs E.T. TAYLOR of a Daughter. Graham’s Town Dec 12 1853. 20 December 1853 We regret to state that Mr. P.W.R. DIXON, of Colesburg, on returning wit his family from the Kowie where they had been to spend a few days, was unfortunately thrown off the waggon-box, as he was driving a waggon and eight horses, and fell under the wheel which passed over him, but we are happy to add without doing him serious injury. His friends will be glad to learn that he is now in a fair way of recovery. 27 December 1853 Another Village on the Eastern Frontier The Farm known as the Mineral Baths, the property of Mr. BEVAN, and situated about eighteen miles from Port Elizabeth, between Graaff-Reinet and Graham’s Town, is announced to be sold at an early date, as will be seen by an advertisement which we publish today. The farm will be subdivided, and about 30 erven – the greater portion of which will be water-erven – will be submitted for competition. A field of excellent forage has just been reaped, yielding 1,500 bundles for every muid of seed – thus giving the extraordinary return of 9,000 for 104 sown, and this without any manure.

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD Port Elizabeth, Saturday, September 6, 1986. BIRTHS. HENEBURY. – To Kim and Terry, a son Mark Andrew, born Thursday, September 4, 1986 at Sandford. MILLIN. – To John and Wendy (nee LEITH), a son, Jonathan James, born Tuesday, September 2, 1986 at Sandton Clinic and brother for Debbie. DEATHS. BACON. – Reg. Mourned by his sister Edith WOODIN, Ron and Jane. DU PREEZ. – Jill Heather Elizabeth (nee Mackay-McEWAN), passed away on Friday, September 5, 1986. Missed by her husband Reg, and daughter Joanne and sons André, Peter, Bryan, Trevor and daughters-in-law Linda, Debbie, Pat, Kathleen and grandchildren. GERBER. – Eben. Management and staff of Eastern Cape Motors would like to express their sympathy to Reuben GERBER and family on the sad loss of his brother. GRAHAM. – Cedric, passed away on Thursday, September 4, 1986. Husband of Kay and father of Lynne, Michael, Paul, Jill and Susan. Mourned by the whole family. HAYNES. – In memory of Moth Captain Tom HAYNES. From all members of White Ensign Shellhole. “We will remember him.” FUNERAL NOTICES. BROWN. – Eric Maurice, passed away on Friday, September 5, 1986. A service will be held in St Bartholomew’s Church, Market Street, Grahamstown, at 2.30 pm, on Monday, September 8, followed by a private cremation. DU PREEZ. – Jill, passed away on Friday, September 5, 1986. Service will take place in St Hugh’s Anglican Church, Newton Park, on Tuesday November 9 at 10 am. Cremation private. GRAHAM. – Cedric, passed away on Wednesday, September 3, 1986. Service will take place at St Cuthbert’s Anglican Church, on Monday September 8, at 3 pm. Cremation private. JAMES. – Inez (Jimmy), mother of Paddy, Bill and Peter, grandmother of John, Gregory, Bradley, Kevin and Bronwen. Service will take place at St Cuthbert’s Anglican Church on Monday, September 8 at 11 am. Cremation private. IN MEMORIAM. BIGGE. – Mavis, passed away three years ago. Remembered by Freda. DEACON. – EVERARD. – MELVILLE. - Laraine Lucile Elizabeth DEACON and Melanie MELVILLE, passed away tragically on September 6, 1985. Also William EVERARD, who passed away on September 6, 1964. Remembered by your mother and Nelson; André, Vicky, Jeremy, Andrew and Tracy; Westview Soft Ball Club; Dawn and Sylvia; Gloria, Brenda, George and Steve; Carol and Hester; Lynne and Midge. GERBER. – Susan, passed away September 6, 1985. Remembered by Henry and Sylvia; Ernie and Betty. MELVILLE. – Melani, passed away one year ago. Remembered by Pa and Ma; Shaun; Humie; Westview Softball Club; Clive and Tanya. SHAW. – Mabel, my sister passed away two years ago. Remembered by Violet. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

Alexander Flinn Davis, American Social Security Number 132-03-5527. Birth 9 Jan 1902 in Scotland Death Apr 1968 in Hempstead, Nassau, New York, United States of America Father: James Flinn, 1870 - Mother: Margaret Davis Spouse: Violet McKiddie, 1907 - 2000 Social Security Number: 132-03-5527; Issue State: New York; Issue Date: Before 1951. Kind Regards, Francois _____________ Francois Greeff, 36 Aston Road, London, SW20 8BE, United Kingdom Phone: 020 8123 4224. Mobile 079 6372 2345. Skype: Greefffrancois Greeff Family Web Site: www.Greeff.info -----Original Message----- From: Marianne Ross [mailto:marianne.ross0609@gmail.com] Sent: 09 October 2012 15:33 To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] lost grandfather Hi This is a long shot, but I accidently landed on an old chat page and saw that you help with genealogy. If so I will tell my story as simply as possible and hope for a response!! My mother's father was Alexander Davis, born in Scotland about 1904. We know he has a son in East London, Eastern Cape one Ronald John Davis ID 3101265062086. Unfortunately none of the children sired by him have a shred of information about him. We know from mom's birth cert that he was a plumber by trade. He duly fathered all these children and then upped and said he was heading back to "Aberdeenshire". According to Ronald they never saw him again. I am currently trying to attain Irish citizenship on the grandfather I know but he is not a blood relative as mom's birth cert specifies Davis as the father!!! I am desperately trying to find someone to help trace him. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it. Kind Regards Marianne Ross ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Transcribed from Cape Frontier Times of 30 August 1853 (CO53/20) at the National Archives in Kew, London. TROWBRIDGE, Thomas, Location, storeman, M. BENJAMIN. TEMLETT, John, Market square, shopkeeper. TAMBOOR, Joseph, High st., laborer, ser. N. BIRKENRUTH. THOMPSON, Robert, Suburbs, sailmaker. TRIBE, Dan., Fort England, clerk, F. CARLISLE's employ. TOPPER, Thomas Robert, Graham's Town, printer. TROTTER, William, Market square, none. TABB, John, Chapel street, laborer. THOMAS, James, York street, carpenter. TUFFLEY, John, Suburbs, gardener. THOMAS, James, Hill street, shopkeeper. TILDESLEY, Samuel, Hill street, jeweller. THARRATT, John, back of New street, wagoner. TALBOTT, John, Settler's hill, citizen. TUDHOPE, Francis, Hill street, teacher. TAYLOR, Edward Thomas, do., apothecary. TURNER, Charles, rear of Pound, blacksmith. TROLLIP, sen., Joseph, King street, freeholder. TEMLETT, James, Beaufort street, clerk. THOMPSON, Daniel, Bathurst street, shopkeeper. TAYLOR, Joseph, High street, shopkeeper. TEMLETT, James, Market square, storekeeper. THOMPSON, Wm. Y., Lawrance street, Trinity Ch. Min. THOMPSON, jun.,William Rowland, High street, merchant. THOMPSON, sen.,William Rowland, do., do. USHER, Henry, Queen street, clock maker. USHER, James, Lawrance street, farmer. URRY, Robert, Artificer's square, tailor. ULYATE, Henry, Lawrance street, farmer. VICE, John, Market square, carrier. VICE, James, New street, butcher. VESSELS, Manier, back New street, laborer. VAN PLASTER, John, Settler's hill, laborer. VAN DER VENT, Adam, Location, carrier. VAN HEEREN, Roelof, Location, servant James MILLER. WHILEY, James, Hill street, baker. WHEELDON, John, Hill street, baker. WEBSTER, George, Suburbs, wagonmaker. WEBSTER, William, Hill street, do. WEBB, William, New street, carrier. WOOD, George, New street, shopkeeper. WELSH, John, Scott street, constable. WEDDERBURN, sen., William, New street, shopkeeper. WOODLAND, Henry, New street, thatcher. WEDDERBURN, jun., William, New street, turner. WHEELDON, James, New street, blacksmith. WHITE, Robert, Beaufort street, printer. WEBSTER, William, High street, chief constable. WOOD, George, do., merchant. WILLIAMS, John. do., shopkeeper. WATSON, William, Hill street, carpenter. WHITTLE, William, near Dundas bridge. WRIGHT, William, High street, merchant. WRIGHT, James, Chapel street, butcher. WICKS, George, King street, wheelwright. WEBB, Christopher, Chapel street, shopkeeper. WIGGETT, William, Queen street, clerk. WALKER, Thomas, do., carpenter. WOOD, William, do., shoemaker WRIGHT, James, do. WINK, Henry, Bathurst street, canteen keeper. WAKEFORD, Chapel street. WILKIE, Beaufort street. WALLACE, jun., James, do., farmer. WALKER, Joseph, Bathurst street, shopkeeper. WEBB, John, do., carrier. WICKS, William, York street, carrier. WELBELOVE, Richard, do., shoemaker. WEBSTER, John, Lawrance street, mason. WILSON, E, Market. WEBBER, William, Market street, laborer. WEBB, Charles, Bathurst street, painter. WOOD, John, Beaufort street, storekeeper. WADE, Thomas, Hill street, carrier. WEBBER, Robert, Artificer's square, shopkeeper. WRIGHT, Charles, do., clerk. WATSON, George, York street. WATSON, Charles, do., gardener. WALLACE, sen., James, do., farmer. WARREN, Robert, do., clerk. WEBB, Robert, Fort England, butcher. WILD, Thomas, do., carrier. WARDHAUGH, James, High street, tailor. WELLS, George, Settler's hill, shoemaker. WEAKLEY, Joseph, Somerset street, wheelwright. WILLMORE, Gregory, Hill street, commis. storekeeper. WHITEHEAD, Stephen, Hill street, tailor. WEAKLEY, John, Somerset street, storekeeper. WHYTE, Andw., Dundas bridge, clerk W. JAFFRAY's ser. WILLOWS, Thomas, Graham's Town, butcher. WALLIS, Wm. Horner, Somerset st., clerk, JARVIE & Co. WATERS, William, Chapel street, laborer. WALTER, Henry, African street, laborer. WHIBDY, William, High street, storeman G. WOOD. WALKER, Jos. Valentine, Bat. st., salesman N.P. KROHN. WINDVOGEL, Gert, Location, laborer. WINDVOGEL, Gerrit, do., do. WILLIAMS, John, Location, carrier. WARD, Henry, Beaufort street, clerk. WALLIS, George, Somerset street, saddler. WENIGROTH, James, Settler's hill, blacksmith. WIID, John, New street, printer. WEDDERBURN, John, New street, wagonmaker. WINDVOGEL, Klaas, Location, thatcher. WALLACE, William, Somerset street, Gar. Sgt Major. WARREN, Thomas Hewlett, Fort England, clerk. WOOD, William, High street, ironmonger. WELLBELOVED, James, Smith street, tailor. YELLING, William, Hill street, canteen keeper. YELLING, Joseph, do., do.

Transcribed from Cape Frontier Times of 30 August 1853 (CO53/20) at the National Archives in Kew, London. PASKIN, John Josiah, New street, shopkeeper. POWELL, William, Hill street, saddler. POTE, Charles, High street, auctioneer. PALMER, George, Somerset street, farmer. PASSMORE, Thos. Emanuel, Bertram street, carpenter. PAYNE, Richard, Bertram street, do. PRESTON, William, New street, do. PASKIN, John, New street, shopkeeper. PHILLIPS, William, Dell's row, laborer. PEARSON, Charles, back of Worcester street, do. POULTON, Charles, Hill street, mason. PAXTON, William, Beaufort street, carpenter. PATRICK, Benjamin, do., carrier. PARKINS, William, near Oatlands, carpenter. PRIOR, Joshua, near Dundas bridge, farmer. POTTER, William, High street, freeholder. PENNEY, Aunger Brock, High street, blacksmith. PATRICK, M., King street. PIKE, --, High Street, clerk. PRENDERGRAST, --, do., laborer. PHILLIPS, George, Chapel street, farmer. PARKER, James, High street, ironmonger. POWELL, jun., James, Beaufort street, wagonmaker. POWELL, Phillip, back of Beaufort street, do. POWELL, sen., James, Beaufort street, householder. PEEL, Thomas, Beaufort street, farmer. PARKER, Thomas Hambly, Bathurst street, shopkeeper. PIKE, William, Market square, do. PEARCE, Joseph, Lawrence street, carrier. PENNY, Phillip, Market street, farmer. POTE, Peter, do., clerk. PAKENHAM, Charles, Bathurst street, merchant. PHILLIPS, John, Artificer's square, cabinetmaker. PATRICK, John, Somerset street, canteen keeper. POLLARD, Thomas, Graham's Town. PHILLIP, Daniel, African street, mason. PANKHURST, sen., John, Scott's farm, farmer. PIETERS, Jurie, Location, wagon driver. PRESENT,do., laborer. PARKER, Thomas Hambly, jun., Bft st,, clerk F.C.& A.B. POOLE, Thomas, Suburbs, laborer. PARKER, Richard, Graham's Town, wool sorter. PIETERSEN, Arie, Location, mason. PEKEUR, Tontje, do., thatcher. PEARCE, Henry, Artificer's square, clerk KENNELLY & Co. PLAATJES, Andries, Location, laborer. PRESENCE, Daniel, Location, laborer. PLAATJES, Plaatjes, Location, laborer. PARSONS, James, Dundas street, laborer. PERRIN, Thomas, Beaufort street, mason. QUIN, junior, John, Artificer's square, printer. QUIN, senior, John, Suburbs, laborer. QUIRK, Daniel, do. Sheriff's officer. RHODES, Charles, Hill street, watch and clock maker. RAWSTORNE, John Geo., Worcester street, Brigade Major. READ, Robert, Hill street, apothecary. ROBERTS, Samuel, do., shoemaker, ROBERTS, Henry, African street, mason. RHODES, Joseph, New street, watchmaker. ROBINSON, William, Somerset street, messenger. ROBERTS, Henry, do., mason. ROBERTS, Benjamin, High street, clerk. ROBERTS, William, Chapel street, carpenter. ROBERTS, John, Chapel street, carpenter. RANDEN, back of Beaufort street. RUTHERFOORD, Henry Ball, High street, merchant. RICHARDS, George, Market square, printer. REYNOLDS, Richard, Lawrance street, laborer. RAVENALL, William, Market street, shoemaker. ROWLES, Solomon Estcourt, Beaufort street, printer. ROBERTS, Richard, Hill street, storekeeper. RIEKIE, John, Artificer's square, clerk. REYNOLDS, William, York street. RETALLICK, Charles, New street, smith. RORKE, Michael, Graham's Town, Qr. Mr. Cape Corps. REYNOLDS, Robert Henry, High street, shoemaker. ROUSUE, William, Beaufort street, gardener. ROBERTS, James, Campbell street, salesman BLACK & Co. ROOY, Isaac, Location, laborer. RUSSELL, Richard, Chapel street, carpenter. RUITERS, Swartboy, Location, laborer. SHORT, Francis, Cross-street, Ordnance messenger. SMITH, Walter, Hill street, painter. STANDEN, Jonathan, High street, cashier. STONE, James John Henry, High street, attorney. STREET, Samuel, Bathurst street, stationer. SIMPSON, Richard, Somerset street, shopkeeper. SCOTT, David, Somerset street, do. SURMON, William, Scott street, police force. SURMON, Thomas, do., carpenter. SMITH, Robert Henry, Albert street, shoemaker. STEWARD, M ,back of New street. STREAK, sen. William, Hill street, thatcher. STOKES, George, Beaufort street, farmer. STONE, Richard Graham, Beaufort street, agent. STANGER, Samuel, do., accountant. STRACHAN, Somerset street, carrier. STUBBS, Thomas, High street, saddler. SWAN, John, do., butcher. STANTON, Robert, Hill street, blacksmith. SPARKS, Robert, High street, carrier. SPARKS, Henry, do., carpenter. SHAW, William, do., Gen. Super. Wes. Missions. SHEPHERD, Joseph, Chapel street, tallow chandler. SANDERS, Thomas George, Chapel street, saddler. STREAK, William, Bathurst street, carpenter. SHAW, Thomas, do., do. STYLE, Thomas Graat, Bathurst street, canteen keeper. SWAIN, William, Bathurst street, painter. SAMPSON, David, Bathurst street, farrier. SANSOM, James, Beaufort street, carrier. SHEPPERSON, Benj. Matthew, Bathurst street, shopkeeper. SMITH, William Collins, do., shoemaker. STREAK, William Samuel, Beaufort street, carpenter. SHEPHERD, B, Hill street, carpenter. SHEPHERD, William, High street, tallow chandler. SHORT, John, Lawrance street, farmer. SLATER, Isaac Faulkner, Hope's garden, attorney. SCANLEN, William, Bathurst street, freeholder. STEAD, George, Beaufort street, tinsmith. SLATER, Charles, do., tallow chandler. SELWYN, William, Hill street, clerk. STRATFORD, Anthony Baldwin, York street, freeholder. SMITH, John Crawford, do., carrier. SOLE, Alfred, do. SHONE, Thomas, do., mechanic. STANTON, sen., William, Somerset street, fieldcornet. SMITH, John Hancorn, New street, farmer. SEPTEMBER, Johannes, Grm's Tn, Hot. Location, mason. SAMSON, Christoffel, do.do., coachman. STRATFORD, Anthony Baldwin, Church square, gentlemen, registered in Municipal books. SANDERS, Alexander, High street, saddler. STACK, Thomas, Bathurst street, clerk, service of B.M. SHEPPERSON. SMITH, Wm., Market square, storeman, ser. J. TEMLETT. SALEM, John, Grm's Tn, groom, Lt BELFIELD's service. STYLE, James, New-street, carrier. SWART, Hans, Location, laborer. SHEAR, Thomas, Market square, laborer. SANDFORD, Henry, High street, carpenter. SNEL, Ruiter, Location, laborer. SMYTH, Edward Robert, Market square, blacksmith. SELLERS, William, Market street, blacksmith. SMITH, Benjamin, Market street, blacksmith. SLINGER, Christian, High street, servant Mr. SHAW. STEPHENS, Joseph, Bog-may-fin, mason.

I'm not sure where you live. You may have heard about holdings in England because of my transcriptions of the Grahamstown Journal, but these only go up to 1853. This is because I have access to original newspapers held at the National Archives in Kew, but later editions are held at the British Newspaper Library in Colindale http://www.bl.uk/reshelp/inrrooms/blnewspapers/newsrr.html where they don't allow digital cameras, so any transcriptions would have to be done on site - a slow process. I don't live in London so transcribing the later editions is not really an option for me. The British Library has copies of GTJ (not totally complete) up to 1864, after which I believe it is listed as The Journal. I live in hope that they will be digitalised as part of the process the BL has initiated of putting all its newspapers online, but I suspect the South African ones are a long way down the priority list. However, there are of course copies of GTJ in South Africa in various repositories. The Cory Library in Grahamstown springs to mind, but I am sure there must be copies held elsewhere. Sue -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Craig & Christine Sent: 09 October 2012 13:43 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Grahamstown Journal later editions?? Hi Folks, I know that there are transcribed journals. But I seem to recall that someone said that the later journals are held in England someplace. I would love to read excerpts from 1870 and up. These don't seem to be available. Does anyone know why and how can I find them? Thanks so much. Christine (Researching Bell/Heber)

Hi Terry I have a MOSS married to a Currie in my tree. They had 5 children, but none of the names are the one you are looking for. If you are interested let me know. Ian Currie On 2012/10/08 11:15 AM, Terence Cockcroft wrote: > Hi Peter > Thanks for that reminder. He was the UCT Rugby doctor, when I was there & > subsequently the Western Province one too. > > Regards > Terry Cockcroft > terrycoc@xsinet.co.za > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi This is a long shot, but I accidently landed on an old chat page and saw that you help with genealogy. If so I will tell my story as simply as possible and hope for a response!! My mother's father was Alexander Davis, born in Scotland about 1904. We know he has a son in East London, Eastern Cape one Ronald John Davis ID 3101265062086. Unfortunately none of the children sired by him have a shred of information about him. We know from mom's birth cert that he was a plumber by trade. He duly fathered all these children and then upped and said he was heading back to "Aberdeenshire". According to Ronald they never saw him again. I am currently trying to attain Irish citizenship on the grandfather I know but he is not a blood relative as mom's birth cert specifies Davis as the father!!! I am desperately trying to find someone to help trace him. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it. Kind Regards Marianne Ross

Hi Lynette, I have had such difficulty tracing back on the Phillips family, I haven't even managed to establish how or when or with whom she arrived in South Africa. Do you know where Mary married Herbert Cornelius Hunt? The Cornelius name is very "Afrikaans" I have a cousin in the UK who is also researching, I'll see if he can come up with something. Kind regards Pat Edwards (also patedwards@mweb.co.za) -----Original Message----- From: Lynette Elliott [mailto:elliottle.26@gmail.com] Sent: 08 October 2012 21:31 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] du Preez/ Koekemoer / Phillips / Green I am trying to trace ffamily of my great grandmother Mary Phillips who was born in Clifton, Bristol, 1876, Mary married Herbert Cornelius Hunt can there possibly be a connection between her and Sara, ? Lynette Elliott. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 11:03 AM, Carol Beneke <carme@iafrica.com> wrote: > Hi Pat > > This would be the site to check for the other headstones. > > http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=43 > > Regards > Carol > > -----Original Message----- > From: patedwards@mweb.co.za > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 10:52 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] du Preez/ Koekemoer / Phillips / Green > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hi to all who might be able to assist me. > > I am compiling a family tree and am having difficulty tracing back > further > than my maternal grandparents who were William Henry Richard du Preez > born > 23/05/1891 died 01/06/1960 and Dinah Dorothea du Preez -born Koekemoer - > 19/03/1897 died 07/01/1957. Both laid to rest in North End Cemetary in > Port > Elizabeth and I have managed to get pictures if their gravestones from a > family member who got them off a website. > > William Henry Richard du Preez's parents were John (Johan??) Hercule du > Preez from ??? & Sara Phillips of Bristol UK and they were married in > Durbanville Cape Town. I am trying to trace their details. They had 4 > sons and 1 daughter that we know of William, Eddie (?Edward) Johnie > (?John) > Alfie (?Alfred) and Edie (?Edith) and possibly another 2 sibblings. we > have unconfirmed information that William was an East Cape Boxer and was > either Fly or Featherweight Champion in 1911. > > Dinah Dorothea du Preez's parents were ?? Koekemoer an immagrant from > Holland, who was a Warder at a prison in Graff Rienett and a Miss Green > who > was Irish. I am trying to trace their details. We know of 4 > daughters, > Dinah, Suzie (?Susanna/?Susarah) Sannie & Hannah and possibly other > sublings. Sannie was a spinster and Suzie was married to a Maarsdorp > and a > Van Heeren. > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Kind Regards > > Pat Edwards > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >