Dear Malcolm, Do you see a map of Africa? - Click anywhere on South Africa. This should take you to a page that looks almost like a directory-tree Click on the plus sign before South Africa to expand that branch. The either click on the sgSA250k (lesser detail maps) or Expand the sgSA50k (more detail maps) and then click on the province. You should now see a grid of SA / an area of SA. Click on the block you are interested in. You will see a thumbnail photo of the map and below it a download button. Click on download and select save to your PC. Hope it works. Regards Paul

Hi Lynette My apologies for taking such a long time to reply. My JOHNSON connection: My grandfather Henry Stephen JAMES, born 22 May 1873, d.12 Oct 1950, PE Married 1st wife: Gertruida Wilhelmina Johanna JOHNSON. b abt.1838, d.2 Jan 1925, PE. Buried at South End, PE. On the gravestone (eggsa) it says she was 87 yrs old, which would mean she was 35 yrs older than him, so I don’t think there could be any children between the 2 of them. I am in search of the names of her parents and brothers and sisters, but up to now couldn’t trace anything about her birth or whereabouts when and before she got married to my grandfather. If I can find that, I’m sure I’ll be able to bring the connection with other JOHNSON links. I have a copy of the Master of the Supreme Court which shows their address at the time of her death as Fairview Estate, Walmer side, PE. According to my mother Fairview Estate was the house where she grew up and the street address was #18, 17th Avenue, Walmer, PE. Unfortunately the surname BEST sounds unfamiliar to me, BUT on the other hand, my mother knows nothing at all about the JOHNSON side of the family and won’t know if there maybe was a BEST married into the family. She was the youngest child and away in a boarding school during her school years and there wasn’t much opportunity to come to know more of the family. I’m going to put the info of the previous generations on the ZA-EC mailing list for the other people to see. Hopefully it will be before the end of the weekend, and hopefully it will lead to lots of new connections, for some other people and for me. I really want to have a “mini” Family Tree finished by Dec to give to my mother for Christmas. Regards to you Louisa On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Lynette McWilliams Troughton < lynettemcwtroughton@hotmail.com> wrote: > > What is your connection with the JOHNSON's. My JOHNSON's come from > George. Do you have any connection to this family/ I also have an > EmmaAnna BEST who married a John Graham JOHNSON in about 1868. > Regards, > Lynette from OZ > > > Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:50:55 +0200 > > From: lllouisa60@gmail.com > > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [ZA-EC] JEWELL, JAMES, JOHNSON, CHERRY, HARRISON, DU PLESSIS, > WARNER on Cape Civil Service List 1900 > > > > Hello Nikki, > > > > I would be grateful if you would check if there are anything on the list > of > > JEWELL, JAMES, JOHNSON, CHERRY, HARRISON, DU PLESSIS or WARNER. > > > > Thank you very much, > > Louisa > > > > ------------------------------- > > >

Hi Nikki Taking the first names of the males of the JAMES family into consideration it seems I need to ask for more info of the following persons, please: JAMES: Joseph Thomas JOHNSON: Francis Robert Harry Smythe Francis Herbert William John CHERRY: George William HARRISON: George Alfred Hopefully there will be some leads to link the JAMES marriages to the other surnames. Thank you in advance Louisa On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Nikki <alnic@polka.co.za> wrote: > > You wrote: > > If any of these are relevant to you just shout and I will type up what info > there is. > Kind regards > Nikki > Sedgefield > > > >

Hi Rod Apologies for delay but I have had two hard drives fail on me and I think things are now working!! Mary Ann NELSON b 30 May 1845 died 1928 x William Henry HAYWARD 15 Oct 1862 Langdon, Peddie Dist. She was the daughter of Joseph NELSON b 14 Jun 1823 & Rosalie Sarah MURPHY. Joseph was the son of Thomas NELSON b Abt. 1791 Nottinghamshire & Mary Ann CORDEN Matilda Ann NELSON b Abt. 1820 d 24 Jun 1902 was also their daughter (Thomas & Mary Ann above) Hope this helps. Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: First name Last name Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:02 PM To: macleod.family@xtra.co.nz ; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Good Morning all, Lynn would you possible have the NELSON links between Mary Ann and Matilda Ann? I would like to plot their linkages. Regards, Rod g From: MacLeod.Family@xtra.co.nz Sent:2012-08-22 02:58:51 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD Hi Gail Hopefully this will go through.. Born Abt. 1890 died 1925 He was the son of William Henry HAYWARD b 1839 and Mary Ann NELSON son of William HAYWARD b 1814 &Matilda Ann NELSON Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Gail Röthlin Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:58 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD Jarvis Reckless HAYWARD, aged 23, a bachelor and warden living in Peddie, married Florence Ann Dorothy NEUPER, aged 21 from Wooldridge, on 27 Aug 1913 at St Andrew's Church at Wooldridge. Could sks enlighten me as to where and how HR HAYWARD fits into the HAYWARD tree?

Hi to the list, During the past week I visited a bookshop in Johannesburg and saw a small leather bound bible about the size of a paperback) for sale, with very feint entries on 5 pages listing the LIEBETRAU Family starting with Johann Lorentz LIEBETRAU b. 20 Dec 1772 married Helena Elizabeth KUSTER (KUSLER)? b. 30 Apr 1784 and other entries up to about 1848. There was also another leather bound bible (bigger than A4) and text in Welsh - I think, and there was a single page with about 5 entries and starting with John MORGANS b. 15 Jul 1823 married Catherien MORGANS. They kindly allowed me to photograph them, (not great photos unfortunately) but if anyone would like copies, just give me a shout. Best wishes Shirley

The following was received from Viv Kymdell in response to my 2005 Rootsweb enquiry:. There seems to be two Ralph families, yours and mine, but dont think they tie up. Cheers Norma Richard RALPH x Elizabeth MILLS [b] 1. Joseph RALPH x Carolina Margareta Peterson [I would have thought Pietersen - Viv.] [c] 1. Hanna Palmer RALPH *Palmietfontein, Somerset East 5.5.1839 + Molteno 20.4.1919 # Molteno x Somerset East 17.2.1857 Alexander Daniel Peter JUBBER * Grahamstown 9.5.1828 + Molteno 7.3.1903 # Molteno. Alexander and Hanna had 19 [nineteen] children. If you would like the children, just let me know. [His 1st wife is shown as Sarah [Loveridge] LOVE * Trappes Valley, Albany 1.11.1834 + Bloemfontein, OFS 27.4.1852, Alexander and Sarah show 2 children]. Susanna Catharina Magdalena RALPH * Burgersdorp CP 18.5.1942 x 7.7.1962 Pieter Hendrik HENNING * Cathcart 12.1.1941 son of Stephanus Johannes Paulus HENNING [1918 - 1988] and Edith Mary GREYLING [1917 1965] Susanna and Pieter show 4 children. William Henry RALPH x Wesleyan Methodist Church, Queenstown Ester Sarah MITCHLEY *Kimberley 9.10.1877 ~ Wesleyan Methodist Church, Kimberley 29.10.1877, dau of Frederick James MITCHLEY and Elizabeth Ann RIDGARD [1856 - 1899]. There are no dates shown for William and no children shown, the notes record that his occupation is given as a platelayer, residing in Queenstown [Cape Government Railways]. Lynette RALPH *27.7.1968 x Bloemfontein, OFS 2.4.1988 Matthys Johannes VAN REENEN *23.12.1960, son of Jacob Johannes VAN REENEN [1931-1978] and Ester DEINER Lynette and Matthys show 1 dau. John RALPH x abt 1761 PA. USA, Verena HUNSAKER * PA. USA 1740, parents from Switzerland.

Hi everyone Sorry to be such a pest at the moment - I'll offer some look-ups at CT Archives in exchange for advise for my trip. I don't know the area, and find conflicting reports on what the on town is like - how long to spend there. Accomodation is also really more than I can afford - geared to business visitors. Would it possibly be better to go for a farm stay in Stutterheim and then drive back into kwt on the days I want to be there? Thank you. elspeth

Dear Mike, I have had a good squiz and I dont have Hannah Palmer. I am stuck with this line - it could be your lot, but this is all I have and the fact that He was Chief Constable in Knysna. Were your bunch from Knysna, or do you recognise any of these? Thanks Norma On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Norma Patrick <norma.patrick8@gmail.com>wrote: > Thanks Michael > Rushing out now, but will look up if I can place Hannah and let you know. > My John Alexander Ralph was born 1836 and died 1901. He was Chief > Constable in Knysna at one stage. > > Cheers > Norma > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, MICHAELJ WATTRUS < > michaeljwattrus@btinternet.com> wrote: > >> Hi Norma >> Hannah Palmer RALPH is my 2nd Great-Grandmother, I have a John listed but >> the Alexander name appears in the RALPH Tree frequently, maybe we can >> compare notes. >> Regards >> Mike >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Hi Nikki >> Could you please look if John Alexander Ralph is there? >> Many thanks >> Norma >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

hi There is a FHC at the church in Loevenstein, Bellville, but I was sadly disappointed the one time I went there. They are only open one evening a week ( I was given incorrect infi and arrived the wrong night) and I was informed that they do not keep films there, one has to order it and it takes 6 weeks to arrive. You are better off going to GISA. Regards Simone From: eamuirhead@telkomsa.net Sent:2012-10-26 13:47:06 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town Thanks Jennifer, But I tried it and it really doesn't work for Cape Town. All I got was a vague reference to Fish Hoek. No concrete address - a marker where there is/was a centre - but nothing else. ge----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The Bell Family Sent: 26 October 2012 01:33 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town Elspeth, https://familysearch.org/locations for locations of all the centers world-wide. Regards, Jennifer Bell -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elspeth Muirhead Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:16 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town Hi listers Could anyone tell me which centres are still operating - the one at Meadowridge no longer seems to be in operation?? I do remember something that it was only going to be in Belville?? I am obviously not looking correctly but I can't find a phone number for a single SA centre to ask - could someone help me please? Thank you. Elspeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Jennifer, But I tried it and it really doesn't work for Cape Town. All I got was a vague reference to Fish Hoek. No concrete address - a marker where there is/was a centre - but nothing else. ge----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The Bell Family Sent: 26 October 2012 01:33 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town Elspeth, https://familysearch.org/locations for locations of all the centers world-wide. Regards, Jennifer Bell -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elspeth Muirhead Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:16 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town Hi listers Could anyone tell me which centres are still operating - the one at Meadowridge no longer seems to be in operation?? I do remember something that it was only going to be in Belville?? I am obviously not looking correctly but I can't find a phone number for a single SA centre to ask - could someone help me please? Thank you. Elspeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi listers Could anyone tell me which centres are still operating - the one at Meadowridge no longer seems to be in operation?? I do remember something that it was only going to be in Belville?? I am obviously not looking correctly but I can't find a phone number for a single SA centre to ask - could someone help me please? Thank you. Elspeth

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. Port Elizabeth, Tuesday, March 10, 1987. BIRTHS. BOUTON. – To Clifford and Geraldine (nee CROUSE), a brother for Nicole, March 6, 1987, at Masterton, New Zealand. FORBES. – To Mark and Carol, a daughter, Candice, born on Sunday, March 8, 1987 at Sandford. FOXLEY. – To Andrew and Jenni (nee BRANFIELD), a son, Warren Edward, on Sunday, March 8, 1987 in Johannesburg. Grandson to Maureen and Trevor MORLEY of Port Elizabeth and Joan and Barley BRANFIELD of East London. TURRELL. – To Gordon and Cathy (nee WHITEHEAD), a son born Friday, March 6, 1987 in Johannesburg. VAN ROOYEN. – To Fanie and Duane (nee GREASLEY), a son born on Wednesday, March 4, 1987 at Sandford. ENGAGEMENTS. AKERS. – ALBUTT. Tyrone and Gill are happy to announce their engagement on Tuesday, March 10, 1987. DEATHS. ALEXANDER. – Gerty. Remembered by Andy, Shane, Walter and Andria. BINGHAM. – Kenneth James, passed away March 6, 1987. Husband of Dorice, father to Joe and Lindsay. Remembered by management and staff of Uni-Continental Distributors; friend of Mark and Mary; Jeff and Cheryl; brother-in-law of Paul, Lisa and Grant, Russell and Gisela; son-in-law of Peggy and Matthew; friend of Gary CHAPMAN, Tony REGNART, Jin FINNIE, Al MALTBY, Ockey BARKHUIZEN, Mark ANDERSON. BRIDGE. – Agnes Mary, passed away on Saturday, March 7, 1987. Missed by Olive. CURRIE. – Alex, passed away on Wednesday, March 4, 1987. Remembered by Bill and Kay DRAPER and family. DAVIES. – Tilly, passed away on Friday, March 6, 1987. Missed by Rita and Chris. FELL. – Olive, passed away on Sunday, March 8, 1987, in Roodepoort. Missed by Elaine, Jack, Karyn, Trevor and grandchildren. HARTMAN. – George, passed away at the Provincial Hospital on Saturday, March 7, 1987 aged 83. Remembered by his son Colin and Beryl and granddad of Lee-Ann and Carolyn; son Alton and Lorna and grandchildren David, Peter and Michael; Maggie and grandsons, David, Peter and Michael HARTMAN and Mark TRUEB. MCTAGGART. – Thomas (Paddy), passed away on Friday, March 6, 1987. Mourned by Minnie and Daniel. TASMER. – Dorothy Sophia (Dot), passed away at the Conradie Hospital, Cape Town, on Thursday, March 5, 1987. Mother of Clyde and Dee, Eric and Elaine, and grandmother of Grant and Kim, Cheryl and Brian, Barry and Andrew. TITTERTON. – Margaret (Peggy), sister of Thelma and Jimmy and stepmother of Eric and Rosemary, passed away on Monday, March 2, 1987. FUNERAL NOTICES. ALEXANDER. – Geraldine (Gerty). The service will take place at Seventh Day Adventist Church, Westbourne Road at 12 noon, today (Tuesday), March 10, 1987. Thence to Forest Hill Cemetery. BINGHAM. – Kenneth. Service will take place in St John’s Methodist Church, tomorrow (Wednesday), March 11, 1987, at 10 am. Cremation private. BRIDGE. – Agnes. The funeral service will take place at the Red Cross Chapel, Laubscher Park, Walmer on Thursday, March 12, 1987 at 2.30 pm. HARTMAN. – George. The service will take place at Seventh Day Adventist Church, Westbourne Road, tomorrow (Wednesday), March 11, 1987 at 2 pm. Interment at the Forest Hill Cemetery. MCTAGGART. – Thomas (Paddy) aged 66. The funeral will be held at St Patrick’s Catholic Church, 11 Somers Road, Sydenham, today (Tuesday), March 10, 1987 at 3.30 pm. TASMER. – Dorothy Sophia (Dot). The funeral will take place at the Methodist Commemoration Church, Grahamstown, at 11 am today (Tuesday), March 10, 1987, followed by interment at the old Methodist Cemetery. IN MEMORIAM. MEIER. – Ivan, passed away March 10, 1983. Remembered by his wife Esmé, son Noel, grand-daughters Taryn and Sheri. MYBURGH. – Cedric, passed away March 10, 1985. Missed by Loretta and family, Mom, Dad, brothers and sisters. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

Elspeth, https://familysearch.org/locations for locations of all the centers world-wide. Regards, Jennifer Bell -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elspeth Muirhead Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:16 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town Hi listers Could anyone tell me which centres are still operating - the one at Meadowridge no longer seems to be in operation?? I do remember something that it was only going to be in Belville?? I am obviously not looking correctly but I can't find a phone number for a single SA centre to ask - could someone help me please? Thank you. Elspeth ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List I am looking for information on Petrus Jacobus DELPORT who married Danielina SCHUTTE in Bedford/Adelaide in about 1864. Can any one help me? Thanks Moyra Joyce Bedford

Greetings Everyone. A friend supplied the following and asks who is or was he. Stanley Chadwick b 9 December 1876 d 28 July 1913. The grave stone is White Marble and stone cutters were E W Gough PE. Grave position is TSAU, Western Side of Okavango Delta Botswana. (Ngamiland). Thanking everyone. Douglas.

Hi Ian I have no dates on Mary Ann Elizabeth MULLIGAN. I got a Facebook message from a descendant in July this year, but failed to see it until a week back - she has not responded yet. I will make a note and send you the dates when I get them - I think I can trace her through another Facebook relative. Mary Ann Elizabeth MULLIGAN was the daughter of Lawrence MULLIGAN (abt 1820/3-1888) and Rose Amelia SMITH (1824-1894) (married 1847 Fort Beaufort). They farmed on Hartebeesfontein, Winterberg, neighbouring Post Retief, owned by Rose Amelia's father, John Joseph SMITH (1779-1852 = 1820 settler) from 1847 through the 1850's. Lawrence MULLIGAN was the son of a John and Mary MULLIGAN, but I haven't been able to establish whether this was the John and Mary MULLIGAN, part of Turvey's party. In fact, it going on records, it looks not, despite name and dates. Records show 1820 settler Mary dying, and John remarrying a Sarah MENZIES and having three daughters. I wonder whether Mary died in child birth with a son - my Lawrence. I would love the CONNELLAN descendants off line Ian. Thank you. Elspeth -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Currie Sent: 25 October 2012 12:19 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts/CONNELLAN/MULLIGAN Hi Elspeth, Glad I could be of help. If you have any additional information on Mary Ann Elizabeth MULLIGAN, and her husband, particularly dates, I would be most grateful if you would share. If you are interested, I can send you, off list, a file of the descendants of Bernard Reginald CONNELLAN, her son, and Dorothea O'Carroll MULLIN. If anyone else is interested, I am happy to share. Regards Ian Currie On 2012/10/25 11:37 AM, Elspeth Muirhead wrote: > Hi Ian > > Thanks very much! It does - that is the marriage I've referred to but > only had the surname. Another piece of the puzzle - how exciting! It > is also very interesting to see where they farmed - my great > grandfather was Mary Ann's MULLIGAN brother and I know he farmed in > King William's Town/Komgha district in the early 1890s. This is added > confirmation that family members seemed to have moved into that area from Post Retief where they were born. > > Best wishes > > Elspeth > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Ian Currie > Sent: 25 October 2012 06:38 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe > districts/CONNELLAN/MULLIGAN > > Hi Elspeth > > I have one CONNELLAN/MULLIGAN connection on my CURRIE tree. > > Drothea O'Carroll MULLIN (1898-1989), daughter of Patrick James MULLIN > and Mary Ann PHILIPPS, married, in 1908, Bernard Reginald CONNELLAN > (1890-1965), son of John Jim CONNELLAN and Mary Ann Elizabeth MULLIGAN. > > I have no other details for Mary Ann Elizabeth MULLIGAN besides her name. > This CONNELLAN family lived and farmed in the King William's > Town/Stutterheim district. > > Don't know if this will be of any help to you. > > Kind regards > > Ian Currie > > > On 2012/10/24 10:06 PM, Elspeth Muirhead wrote: >> Hi Darryl >> >> I only know about my Mulligan's (married to a Smith) and a >> Fitzgerald's in King Williams Town. I see you also have family at >> Post Retief - I am going there I hope as that is the most definite >> connection I know of. Mulligan daughters married into the Connellan >> family and also into the Schrieder family. There is also a connection >> with the Moorcroft family in Winterberg region. >> >> What families are you researching? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Darryl Allwright >> Sent: 24 October 2012 01:21 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe >> districts >> >> Hi Elizabeth >> >> I would also like to know who you are researching in that areas as a >> large portion of my tree stayed in these areas >> >> Regards >> >> Darryl >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Elspeth Muirhead >> Sent: 24 October 2012 12:31 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts >> >> Hi listers >> >> >> >> I'm in a hopeless tangle trying to find out more or less which parts >> of the Eastern Cape my family farmed in - it's suddenly got urgent as >> I want to do a trip to the Eastern Cape soon. I wonder if someone can >> explain how to trace the 1891 map of Komgha district (I have a list >> of the farm numbers and owners from on 2005 thread on this list but >> need to see whereabouts it is). I am not sure what the boundaries of >> Komgha district were - my farm is listed under a few below 'near >> Gonubie River' - for practical purposes is this vague info all I'll >> get anyway, and if so where does anyone know more or less where this >> would > refer to? >> >> >> I then would like to find out about farms in the Indwe / Dordrecht >> area in the 1890s. My search of KAB showed farms being transferred >> from Wodehouse district and Elliot district around 1919. Indwe was >> very new in 1890 - but where would farms around 1894- 1900 or so be >> registered? Where and how would I look for this information? >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> Elspeth >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

*Dear Rod* * * *Please let me have which link you used to find this Peddie BDM info.* * * *Thanks* *Jenny* *jaspearpe@gmail.com* ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "First name Last name" <rodg@tiscali.co.za> To: "south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com" < south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com>, "south-africa-l@rootsweb.com" < south-africa-l@rootsweb.com> Cc: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 06:01:47 +0200 Subject: [ZA-EC] Peddie BDMs Good Morning all Listers, Gail very kindly sent me the link to a Family Search site where I found the copy of a "Form of Notification of a Death," which I have never seen before. In certain instances it is almost like a DN but giving only the children's ages and no names. Why this is a gem is that it shows my gg grandparents August Hermann GEBHARDT and Christina NURENBERG in fact had 15 children and not 14 as I originally believed. The 15th child, a daughter, only survived for 10 days. The only timeslot I think she may fall into is sometime between 1879 and 1881, between the births of her sisters Sophie and Antonje or after 1881. Can any lister point me in the direction where I can try to locate a birth or death entry for the little one? Unfortunately I have no name for her. Regards to all, and thanks again Gail, Rod g * *

Hi Elspeth, Glad I could be of help. If you have any additional information on Mary Ann Elizabeth MULLIGAN, and her husband, particularly dates, I would be most grateful if you would share. If you are interested, I can send you, off list, a file of the descendants of Bernard Reginald CONNELLAN, her son, and Dorothea O'Carroll MULLIN. If anyone else is interested, I am happy to share. Regards Ian Currie On 2012/10/25 11:37 AM, Elspeth Muirhead wrote: > Hi Ian > > Thanks very much! It does - that is the marriage I've referred to but only > had the surname. Another piece of the puzzle - how exciting! It is also very > interesting to see where they farmed - my great grandfather was Mary Ann's > MULLIGAN brother and I know he farmed in King William's Town/Komgha district > in the early 1890s. This is added confirmation that family members seemed to > have moved into that area from Post Retief where they were born. > > Best wishes > > Elspeth > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian > Currie > Sent: 25 October 2012 06:38 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe > districts/CONNELLAN/MULLIGAN > > Hi Elspeth > > I have one CONNELLAN/MULLIGAN connection on my CURRIE tree. > > Drothea O'Carroll MULLIN (1898-1989), daughter of Patrick James MULLIN and > Mary Ann PHILIPPS, married, in 1908, Bernard Reginald CONNELLAN (1890-1965), > son of John Jim CONNELLAN and Mary Ann Elizabeth MULLIGAN. > > I have no other details for Mary Ann Elizabeth MULLIGAN besides her name. > This CONNELLAN family lived and farmed in the King William's > Town/Stutterheim district. > > Don't know if this will be of any help to you. > > Kind regards > > Ian Currie > > > On 2012/10/24 10:06 PM, Elspeth Muirhead wrote: >> Hi Darryl >> >> I only know about my Mulligan's (married to a Smith) and a >> Fitzgerald's in King Williams Town. I see you also have family at Post >> Retief - I am going there I hope as that is the most definite >> connection I know of. Mulligan daughters married into the Connellan >> family and also into the Schrieder family. There is also a connection >> with the Moorcroft family in Winterberg region. >> >> What families are you researching? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Darryl Allwright >> Sent: 24 October 2012 01:21 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe >> districts >> >> Hi Elizabeth >> >> I would also like to know who you are researching in that areas as a >> large portion of my tree stayed in these areas >> >> Regards >> >> Darryl >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Elspeth Muirhead >> Sent: 24 October 2012 12:31 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts >> >> Hi listers >> >> >> >> I'm in a hopeless tangle trying to find out more or less which parts >> of the Eastern Cape my family farmed in - it's suddenly got urgent as >> I want to do a trip to the Eastern Cape soon. I wonder if someone can >> explain how to trace the 1891 map of Komgha district (I have a list >> of the farm numbers and owners from on 2005 thread on this list but >> need to see whereabouts it is). I am not sure what the boundaries of >> Komgha district were - my farm is listed under a few below 'near >> Gonubie River' - for practical purposes is this vague info all I'll >> get anyway, and if so where does anyone know more or less where this would > refer to? >> >> >> I then would like to find out about farms in the Indwe / Dordrecht >> area in the 1890s. My search of KAB showed farms being transferred >> from Wodehouse district and Elliot district around 1919. Indwe was >> very new in 1890 - but where would farms around 1894- 1900 or so be >> registered? Where and how would I look for this information? >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> Elspeth >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Ian Thanks very much! It does - that is the marriage I've referred to but only had the surname. Another piece of the puzzle - how exciting! It is also very interesting to see where they farmed - my great grandfather was Mary Ann's MULLIGAN brother and I know he farmed in King William's Town/Komgha district in the early 1890s. This is added confirmation that family members seemed to have moved into that area from Post Retief where they were born. Best wishes Elspeth -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ian Currie Sent: 25 October 2012 06:38 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts/CONNELLAN/MULLIGAN Hi Elspeth I have one CONNELLAN/MULLIGAN connection on my CURRIE tree. Drothea O'Carroll MULLIN (1898-1989), daughter of Patrick James MULLIN and Mary Ann PHILIPPS, married, in 1908, Bernard Reginald CONNELLAN (1890-1965), son of John Jim CONNELLAN and Mary Ann Elizabeth MULLIGAN. I have no other details for Mary Ann Elizabeth MULLIGAN besides her name. This CONNELLAN family lived and farmed in the King William's Town/Stutterheim district. Don't know if this will be of any help to you. Kind regards Ian Currie On 2012/10/24 10:06 PM, Elspeth Muirhead wrote: > Hi Darryl > > I only know about my Mulligan's (married to a Smith) and a > Fitzgerald's in King Williams Town. I see you also have family at Post > Retief - I am going there I hope as that is the most definite > connection I know of. Mulligan daughters married into the Connellan > family and also into the Schrieder family. There is also a connection > with the Moorcroft family in Winterberg region. > > What families are you researching? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Darryl Allwright > Sent: 24 October 2012 01:21 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe > districts > > Hi Elizabeth > > I would also like to know who you are researching in that areas as a > large portion of my tree stayed in these areas > > Regards > > Darryl > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Elspeth Muirhead > Sent: 24 October 2012 12:31 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > Hi listers > > > > I'm in a hopeless tangle trying to find out more or less which parts > of the Eastern Cape my family farmed in - it's suddenly got urgent as > I want to do a trip to the Eastern Cape soon. I wonder if someone can > explain how to trace the 1891 map of Komgha district (I have a list > of the farm numbers and owners from on 2005 thread on this list but > need to see whereabouts it is). I am not sure what the boundaries of > Komgha district were - my farm is listed under a few below 'near > Gonubie River' - for practical purposes is this vague info all I'll > get anyway, and if so where does anyone know more or less where this would refer to? > > > > I then would like to find out about farms in the Indwe / Dordrecht > area in the 1890s. My search of KAB showed farms being transferred > from Wodehouse district and Elliot district around 1919. Indwe was > very new in 1890 - but where would farms around 1894- 1900 or so be > registered? Where and how would I look for this information? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Elspeth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paul This is exiting news, thanks. I have accessed the site 'madmappers' as per your link but cannot find any way of downloading the maps, please advise. Thanks Malcolm On 2012/10/24 06:17 PM, Paul le Roux wrote: > Dear Tombi, Elspeth and other listers, > > You can download the trial (free) version of the map-viewing software > OziExplorer at http://www.oziexplorer3.com/eng/oziexplorer.html > If the program won't run and says it needs a file - Google that file and > download it to the program file. > > Then go to http://www.madmappers.com/countries.php?TY=R where all the SA250k > and SA50k topographic maps are available free (raster maps). These are the > most detailed maps, those you normally buy at the Surveyor General's office. > Farms are also marked on these maps. > > It takes a bit of bandwidth to download, but the result is a digital set of > SA maps with no equivalent. > > Regards > Paul LE ROUX > Paarl > LE ROUX x STEMMET > MILNS x SANDS > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tombi Peck [mailto:tombipeck@talktalk.net] > Sent: 24 October 2012 11:09 > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > Hi Elspeth, > I managed to get a copy of the 'Readers Digest Atlas of Southern Africa' > ....the copy I have was published in 1984. > > I was very surprised (and amazed) to find that there are thousands and > thousands of farm names printed on the maps. > > I have succeeded in finding where many of my various family farms were > situated just by looking at the maps. One does need a good magnifying glass, > patience and a hi-liter.....I was brought up not to deface books, but I have > to confess to having marked the various farms in different colours to > indicate to me which branch of the family the farm had belonged to....it's a > pity there are limited hi-lite colours available. > > One list member managed to find a copy for about £5 in New Zealand. My copy > came from South Africa (I managed to find a copy through 'The Bookfinder > General' but of course these days it is so much easier to find books on the > net) was considerably more expensive. The postage alone was prohibitive as > it is a very large book....to save money I got it posted by land rather than > by air! > > Best wishes, > Tombi Peck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elspeth Muirhead" <eamuirhead@telkomsa.net> > To: <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:47 AM > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > > >> Hi Cheri >> >> Mostly MULLIGAN and FITZGERALD - a SMITH connection with Post Retief - the >> only farms I know of still in existence today. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cheri >> Marshall >> Sent: 24 October 2012 01:05 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts >> >> Hi Elspeth.. >> Which family Names are you looking at... >> Cheri >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >> Elspeth >> Muirhead >> Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2012 8:31 AM >> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [ZA-EC] Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts >> >> Hi listers >> >> >> >> I'm in a hopeless tangle trying to find out more or less which parts of >> the >> Eastern Cape my family farmed in - it's suddenly got urgent as I want to >> do >> a trip to the Eastern Cape soon. I wonder if someone can explain how to >> trace the 1891 map of Komgha district (I have a list of the farm numbers >> and owners from on 2005 thread on this list but need to see whereabouts it >> is). I am not sure what the boundaries of Komgha district were - my farm >> is >> listed under a few below 'near Gonubie River' - for practical purposes is >> this vague info all I'll get anyway, and if so where does anyone know more >> or less where this would refer to? >> >> >> >> I then would like to find out about farms in the Indwe / Dordrecht area in >> the 1890s. My search of KAB showed farms being transferred from Wodehouse >> district and Elliot district around 1919. Indwe was very new in 1890 - but >> where would farms around 1894- 1900 or so be registered? Where and how >> would >> I look for this information? >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> >> Elspeth >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- */Malcolm Brown/* Phone: +27 33 343 1892 Mobile: +27 82 901 9047 Fax: +27 86 671 7921 20 Hillary Road, Hilton, Kwazulu-Natal PO Box 1013, Hilton, 3245, South Africa *Think about the environment! Do not print this email unless necessary. Thank you. *Confidentiality Note:* This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and legally privileged information. 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