EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. Port Elizabeth, Saturday, April 4, 1987. BIRTHS. KLEE. – To Mike and Jane, a son, on Thursday, April 2, 1987 at Sandford. SCHWARTZ. – To Michael and Sharon (nee ALBERT), a daughter. ENGAGEMENTS. STARCK. – SCHMIDT. Keith and Pam have pleasure in announcing the engagement of their elder son Brett, to Debrah, daughter of Mervynne and Mary SCHMIDT of George. MARRIAGES. GARRETT. – VAN DER MERWE. David to Pat at St John’s Methodist Church on Friday, April 3, 1987. DEATHS. BUCKLAND. – Wendy, passed away in Cape Town on Thursday, April 2, 1987. Mourned by her husband Richard and daughter Nicole and sister Eymrm. Funeral service at the Cathedral of St Michael and St George on Tuesday, April 7, at 2.30 pm. Interment in the New Cemetery. DAMONS. – Leslie, passed away Friday, April 3. Remembered by Phoebe and Don. FLACK. – George, a founding member of St Mark’s Congregational Church, passed away on Friday, April 3, 1987. Remembered by your wife Margaret and family; Minister and all at St Mark’s; Ivy and Lily, Les and James. HAMMETT. – Jean. Mourned by Marge and family; Maike, Nico and Marc; Allan and Theresa. MAISCH. – Patti, passed away Friday, April 3, 1987. Remembered by Garth and Rene DAVIES. NEALE-MAY. – John, lifelong member of Summerstrand Surf Lifesaving Club. Sympathy with Donovan and Roger and families. NEL. – Tania, twin daughter of Frederick and Louise, of the farm Smitskraal, Waterford, district Pearson. Remembered by Graham, Rose, Niki and Cindi. ROCKMAN. – Eugene (Rocky), 28 years old. Mourned by his girlfriend Sandra BOSMAN and mother Kate HARE. WEBSTER. – Lynn, passed away Thursday, April 2, 1987.Remembered by Des, Kevin and Dawn. ROLL OF HONOUR. “At the going down of the sun And in the morning We will remember them.” In memory of my shipmates of H.M.S. Cornwall who went down with the ship on April 5, 1942. From G.G. GAINSFORD (stoker). MILNE. – WILLIAMSON. In proud memory of Laurie and Walter, who lost their lives on April 5, 1942, H.M.S. Dorsetshire. Ernie SMITH, Durban. FUNERAL NOTICES. FLACK. – George Joseph, passed away on Friday, April 3, 1987. Service will take place on Saturday, April 4, at 12 noon in St Mark’s Congregational Church, cnr of United and Neville Roads, Westering. Cremation private. IN MEMORIAM. AUSTIN. – Ronald. Remembered by Donald. BARKHUIZEN. – Dan, passed away April 5, 1977. Remembered by Dennis, Yvonne, Hylton, Estelle and families. BOTHA. – Chris, passed away April 4, 1986. Remembered by his wife Ruby and son Trevor. DE KLERK. – Bennie, passed away April 4, 1986. Remembered by his wife Rika. GONCALDES. – Mary, passed away nine years ago today. Remembered by your husband Zaca and children Virgilio, Bernadetta, Stan and Lesley. JONCK. – Lou. Remembered by your wife Hilda and family. POTGIETER. – Pottie, passed away five years ago. Remembered by his wife Lettie and stepchildren Japie, Dieba and Philip. SLOAN. – Frances, passed away April 4, 1983. Remembered by her husband Hugh and family in Toronto. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

FRIDAY, 6 OCTOBER, 1922 DEATHS FOSS. - On the 29th September, Emily, widow of the late Richard FOSS, formerly of New England, passed peacefully away. SATURDAY, 7 OCTOBER, 1922 BIRTHS JAMES. - At Glencoe Junction, on 3rd October, to Mr. and Mrs. Clarry JAMES (nee Nesta GOODWIN), a bonny son. All well, thanks to Doctor and Mother. 9504 GREAVES. - To Mr. and Mrs. Frank GREAVES, Jnr., on the 3rd October, at Oakdene, Newcastle, a daughter. Both doing well. 4993 DE JAGER. - At Welkomst, Waschbank, on the 5th October, to Mr. and Mrs. I.J. DE JAGER, a fine daughter. Both well. 9497 TAYLOR. - At Nurse BARRETT's Nursing Home, Umkomaas, on October 2, to Mr. and Mrs. Frank TAYLOR, late of Dundee, a son (still-born). 9501 IN MEMORIAM CALDER. - In loving memory of our dear mother, Isabella CALDER, died October 8th, 1902. Shall never be forgotten. 9521 LESLIE. - In loving memory of James Nicol LESLIE, who died 9th October, 1920. Sadly and dearly missed by his loving daughter Queenie. 9505 LEAKE. - In loving memory of Elsie, who passed over, October 8, 1918. 9518 IN MEMORIAM ROLL OF HONOUR JOLLIFFE. - In loving memory of our dear boy. Gunner Henry Clydesdale (Clyde) JOLLIFFE, who passed away at the Government Hospital Suez, Egypt, October 7th, 1918. His duty done. 9484 ROWE. - In cherished memory of our dear son, John Bernard ROWE (Johnnie), 1st S.A. Infantry, who died of wounds in France, October 8th, 1918. Aged 17 years. Amidst the roar of battle strife Thy will O Lord be done. Inserted by his loving Mother and Dad. ROWE. - In loving memory of our dear brother, John Bernard ROWE, who died of wounds in the battle of Beaurevoir, France, on October 8th, 1918. Dearer in memory than words can tell Are thoughts of him we loved so well. Inserted by Mary and Alec. 9503 MONDAY, 9 OCTOBER, 1922 DEATHS FOSS. - On the 29th September, Emily, widow of the late Richard FOSS, formerly of New England, passed peacefully away. IN MEMORIAM CANT. - In loving memory of my dear husband, Alex CANT, who passed away on the 9th October, 1921. At rest. 9548 HARDEN. - In loving memory of my dear husband, Robert HARDEN, died October 8th, 1921. To memory ever dear. 9542 HARDEN. - In loving memory of our dear dad, Robert HARDEN, died October, 1921. A loving father, good and kind, A beautiful memory left behind. Inserted by his loving Children. 9543 IN MEMORIAM ROLL OF HONOUR COLLINS. - Brian. In loving memory the beloved boy of Miles and Hettie COLLINS, who was killed at Beaurevoir, France, on October 8, 1918. 'Tis an ill cure For life's worst ills to have no time to feel them. When sorrow's held intrusive and turned out, There wisdom will not enter, nor true power, Nor aught that dignifies humanity. 9425 GODDEN. - In loving memory of our dear son, Charles Robert GODDEN, killed in action at Beaurevoir, France, on October 8th, 1918. Those who think of you to-day, Are those who loved you best. Inserted by Mother and Dad. 9530 HOSKEN. - In loving memory of Lieut. V.F. HOSKEN (7th London Regt.) killed in action in France, October 7th, 1916. We know not, till we miss the voice Of our beloved lying slain, How greatly would our hearts rejoice To hear him speak to us again. We turn away where empty space Is all that meets our tearful eyes, And with the courage of our race, Thank God, our dear boy in honour died. Sleep on in peace, dear son, Thy duty well and nobly done. Inserted by his loving parents. TUESDAY, 10 OCTOBER, 1922 BIRTHS GOURLAY. - At the Bulwer Nursing Home, Durban, October 3rd, 1922, to Mr. and Mrs. D.B. GOURLAY, "Deanvale," Essenwood Road, Durban, a bonnie daughter. 4951 STAINBANK. - To Mr. and Mrs. Christopher STAINBANK, on October 6th, at the Leeds Nursing Home, Maritzburg, a son. 9593 VAN BLERK. - At Sanatorium, Pietermaritzburg, on the 6th October, to Mr. and Mrs. Douglas VAN BLERK. of College Road, a fine daughter. Both well. 9578 MARRIAGES FLETCHER-WINDOW. - Robert William FLETCHER, of N'Kwaleni, Zululand (late Rosetta, Natal), to Henrietta Evelyn WINDOW, of Maritzburg, by the Rev. Heywood HARRIS, M.C., on Saturday, October 7th, at St. Peter's Church, Pietermaritzburg. 9598 IN MEMORIAM ROLL OF HONOUR GARDNER. - William James GARDNER, late of Fox Hill, fell in action in France, October 15th, 1917. Far away from his home, And the sister of youth, He fought for the standard Of honour and truth. For the love of his King The wild ocean he crossed, Soon, alas, was his fall, He died at his post. Victorious he fell, He arose as he fell In the bright land of glory For ever to dwell. Inserted by Mother. 9571 WESTBROOK. - In loving memory of my very dear son, Dickie, who died of wounds in France, October 10th, 1918. 9569 Transcribed by: Tara NORTON (born SHRIVES) taraanorton@gmail.com<mailto:taraanorton@gmail.com> Researching: ATKINSON (ENG), BENECKE, KILLERBY (ENG), (GOLDSMITH-)LESTER (GER/IRE), LOURENS, MARTIN, MILLER, MILLIKEN (IRE), PARKER, SHRIVES (IRE), WALTERS, WINGHAM (ENG) and related families. ________________________________ NCT FORESTRY CO-OPERATIVE LIMITED http://www.nctforest.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us by return email. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by Eset Mail Security for the presence of computer viruses. http://www.eset.com ________________________________

TUESDAY, 3 OCTOBER, 1922 IN MEMORIAM FRAMPTON. - In loving memory of Gertrude Emily FRAMPTON (nee KEMP), who died 3rd October, 1918. Lovingly remembered by Father, Mother, and Son, Rollie. "Until the Day breaks." FRAMPTON. - In loving memory of our dear sister, Gertrude E. FRAMPTON (Gertie), who passed over 3rd October, 1918. "Death may hide, but not divide." Harry, Eunice and Children. FRAMPTON. - In loving memory of our dear sister, Gertrude Emily FRAMPTON (Gertie) who died October 3rd, 1918. "To memory ever dear." Nellie, Will and Children. WEDNESDAY, 4 OCTOBER, 1922 BIRTHS McFIE. - At the Bulwer Nursing Home, Durban, September 28th, 1922, to Mr. and Mrs. Geo. McFIE, a son. 9375 THOMPSON. - At "Stanmore," Nottingham Road, on September 30th, 1922, to Mr. and Mrs. Denis H. THOMPSON, a daughter. 9354 DEATHS FOSS. - On the 29th September, Emily, widow of the late Richard FOSS, formerly of New England, passed peacefully away. ei9372 STANTIAL. - At Hill Crest, on the 1st October, 1922, E.S.T. STANTIAL, dearly loved husband of Lydia STANTIAL in his 80th year. 4801 THURSDAY, 5 OCTOBER, 1922 BIRTHS WILLIAMS. - To Mr. and Mrs. Frank WILLIAMS, on the 2nd of October, at 20. Chapel Street, a daughter. Nurse M. FOSTER in attendance. Both doing well. 9399 DEATHS CROSS. - On September 23rd, Eileen, the beloved wife of T.B. CROSS, School of Agriculture, Cedara, and sixth daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Geo. ROSS, of "Riversdale," Howick. 9411 CROSS. - At Maritzburg, on the 23rd September, Eileen, dearly beloved wife of T.B. CROSS, School of Agriculture, Cedara, Natal. Deeply mourned. 9405 FRIDAY, 6 OCTOBER, 1922 DEATHS FOSS. - On the 29th September, Emily, widow of the late Richard FOSS, formerly of New England, passed peacefully away. Transcribed by: Tara NORTON (born SHRIVES) taraanorton@gmail.com<mailto:taraanorton@gmail.com> Researching: ATKINSON (ENG), BENECKE, KILLERBY (ENG), (GOLDSMITH-)LESTER (GER/IRE), LOURENS, MARTIN, MILLER, MILLIKEN (IRE), PARKER, SHRIVES (IRE), WALTERS, WINGHAM (ENG) and related families. ________________________________ NCT FORESTRY CO-OPERATIVE LIMITED http://www.nctforest.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us by return email. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by Eset Mail Security for the presence of computer viruses. http://www.eset.com ________________________________

Hi Gail, Not sure what your query is, I have three John Edward Cawood's. 1 John Edward Cawood b: 7 August 1843 d: 21 September 1913 .. +Mary Ann Nelson b: 26 February 1845 m: 28 June 1865 in Methodist Church Cradock d: 1916 ...... 2 John Edward Cawood b: 5 March 1868 And John Edward Nelson Cawood born Oct 1884 son of David William Cawood and Elizabeth Mary Nelson. I have no marriage for either of the younger John Edward's. Regards Fay -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gail Röthlin Sent: 28 October 2012 10:31 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Hi Fay, Was John Edward Cawood die the same year he was married, in a Frontier War perhaps? Regards, Gail -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fay Lea Sent: Samstag, 27. Oktober 2012 09:29 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Hi Lynn & Rod, Are the folk below any relation? I have a Mary Ann Nelson born 26th Feb 1845 - 1916 (daughter of John Edward Nelsonn and Loveday Ann Amelia Cook) who married John Edward Cawood 1843-1865 in Cradock on the 28th June 1865. John Edward Nelson was a Captian in the Cradock Mounted Volunteers Regards Fay -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn MacLeod Sent: 26 October 2012 09:05 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Hi Rod Apologies for delay but I have had two hard drives fail on me and I think things are now working!! Mary Ann NELSON b 30 May 1845 died 1928 x William Henry HAYWARD 15 Oct 1862 Langdon, Peddie Dist. She was the daughter of Joseph NELSON b 14 Jun 1823 & Rosalie Sarah MURPHY. Joseph was the son of Thomas NELSON b Abt. 1791 Nottinghamshire & Mary Ann CORDEN Matilda Ann NELSON b Abt. 1820 d 24 Jun 1902 was also their daughter (Thomas & Mary Ann above) Hope this helps. Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: First name Last name Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:02 PM To: macleod.family@xtra.co.nz ; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Good Morning all, Lynn would you possible have the NELSON links between Mary Ann and Matilda Ann? I would like to plot their linkages. Regards, Rod g From: MacLeod.Family@xtra.co.nz Sent:2012-08-22 02:58:51

Hi Fay, Thanks for that. Was just checking, as in your previous email you wrote: ... John Edward Cawood 1843-1865 in Cradock on the 28th June 1865. Kind regards, Gail -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fay Lea Sent: Sonntag, 28. Oktober 2012 12:01 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Edward/HAYWARD/Nelson Hi Gail, Not sure what your query is, I have three John Edward Cawood's. 1 John Edward Cawood b: 7 August 1843 d: 21 September 1913 .. +Mary Ann Nelson b: 26 February 1845 m: 28 June 1865 in Methodist Church Cradock d: 1916 ...... 2 John Edward Cawood b: 5 March 1868 And John Edward Nelson Cawood born Oct 1884 son of David William Cawood and Elizabeth Mary Nelson. I have no marriage for either of the younger John Edward's. Regards Fay

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. Port Elizabeth, Friday, March 13, 1987. BIRTHS. DE LAUWERE. – To Alfons and Sheila (nee WYATT), a daughter, Monique Simone, on Thursday, March 12, 1987 at Sandford. FORLEE. – To Ronald and Cindi (Nee WONG), a son and brother to Taryn and grandson to Mabel and Gordon FORLEE, born on Saturday, March 7, 1987, Perth, Australia. HELMAN. – To Tord and Niki (nee KLEINHANS), a son Todd, born March 9, 1987 in Vasteras, Sweden. Grandson to Maynhardt and Shirly. JONES. – To Alan and Marilyn, a daughter born March 12, 1987 at Sandford. Sister to Mia-Carla and Darren. MARRIAGES. SOHL. – HALL. Mike and Lilian HALL are happy to announce the marriage of their daughter Christine, to Ray, son of Walter and Nancy SOHL od Washington D.C. took place on Thursday, March 12, 1987 in Tallahassee, USA. DEATHS. KRETZINGER. – Jack, passed away March 11, 1987 at the Red Cross Homes, Walmer. Mourned by his wife Colleen; Adrian, Michael and Craig; Poul, Jo (Annette) and Andrew. FUNERAL NOTICES. DALY. – Eileen Mary, passed away on Wednesday, March 11, 1987. Requiem Mass at St Patricks Church, Hill Street, Grahamstown, on Monday, March 16 at 9 am. KRETZINGER. Johannes Petrus Jordaan (Jack), passed away March 11, 1987 at the Red Cross Homes, Walmer, aged 74 years. Funeral service will take place at the Red Cross Chapel at 9am, today (Friday), March 13, 1987. IN MEMORIAM. BLEWETT. – Theresa, and our brothers Hilton and Kenny. Remembered by the whole family; Len, Hazel and family. ERIKSON. – Eric, passed away one year ago. Remembered by Beryl, Brian and family; Anthony, Rachel, David and Andrew; wife Bessie. INCH. – Leslie, passed away 5 years ago. Remembered by Julia; Michael and Julie. JONKER. – Michael, passed away March 13, 1980. Remembered by Wallace, Sharon and children; Joe, Lily and family. JORDAAN. – Shanon (nee BEHR). Passed away March 13, 1983. Remembered by Christopher, Alan and Betty; Barbara and Louis BEHR. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

Hi Fay, Was John Edward Cawood die the same year he was married, in a Frontier War perhaps? Regards, Gail -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fay Lea Sent: Samstag, 27. Oktober 2012 09:29 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Hi Lynn & Rod, Are the folk below any relation? I have a Mary Ann Nelson born 26th Feb 1845 - 1916 (daughter of John Edward Nelsonn and Loveday Ann Amelia Cook) who married John Edward Cawood 1843-1865 in Cradock on the 28th June 1865. John Edward Nelson was a Captian in the Cradock Mounted Volunteers Regards Fay -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn MacLeod Sent: 26 October 2012 09:05 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Hi Rod Apologies for delay but I have had two hard drives fail on me and I think things are now working!! Mary Ann NELSON b 30 May 1845 died 1928 x William Henry HAYWARD 15 Oct 1862 Langdon, Peddie Dist. She was the daughter of Joseph NELSON b 14 Jun 1823 & Rosalie Sarah MURPHY. Joseph was the son of Thomas NELSON b Abt. 1791 Nottinghamshire & Mary Ann CORDEN Matilda Ann NELSON b Abt. 1820 d 24 Jun 1902 was also their daughter (Thomas & Mary Ann above) Hope this helps. Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: First name Last name Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:02 PM To: macleod.family@xtra.co.nz ; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Good Morning all, Lynn would you possible have the NELSON links between Mary Ann and Matilda Ann? I would like to plot their linkages. Regards, Rod g From: MacLeod.Family@xtra.co.nz Sent:2012-08-22 02:58:51 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD Hi Gail Hopefully this will go through.. Born Abt. 1890 died 1925 He was the son of William Henry HAYWARD b 1839 and Mary Ann NELSON son of William HAYWARD b 1814 &Matilda Ann NELSON Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Gail Röthlin Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:58 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD Jarvis Reckless HAYWARD, aged 23, a bachelor and warden living in Peddie, married Florence Ann Dorothy NEUPER, aged 21 from Wooldridge, on 27 Aug 1913 at St Andrew's Church at Wooldridge. Could sks enlighten me as to where and how HR HAYWARD fits into the HAYWARD tree? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank so much Jenny. Don't know why I couldn't find them. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer Spear Sent: 27 October 2012 01:48 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] LDS Family History Centres Bellville South Africa Family History Center X<https://www.lds.org/rcmaps/client?title=FamilySearch&nearby=5/161000&layer s=familysearchcenter&find=location&assigned=0&lang=eng#> 16 Kiaat Crescent, Loevenstein, Bellville7530SOUTH AFRICA +27 021 913 6642 Milnerton South Africa Family History Center X<https://www.lds.org/rcmaps/client?title=FamilySearch&nearby=5/161000&layer s=familysearchcenter&find=location&assigned=0&lang=eng#> cnr Tygerhof & Pringle Roads, Tygerhof, Milnerton7441SOUTH AFRICA Guguletu South Africa Family History Center X<https://www.lds.org/rcmaps/client?title=FamilySearch&nearby=5/161000&layer s=familysearchcenter&find=location&assigned=0&lang=eng#> Stand 75, Downing Street, Montana, Gugulethu7750SOUTH AFRICA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good evening, Does anybody have McASLIN in their tree? I'm looking for William and Mary McASLIN who arrived at the Cape with 9 children, only two of which were sons. Kind regards, Gail

Hi Elspeth. Contact/phone me off list if you still need info on KWT. I can supply you with all (I think) the info you will need for your visit. I have taken my German Group twice on a tour to that area, but the info is too much for an e-mail on the list. I might be able to better your accommodation idea. I can assure you I am entirely helping you without getting any benefit from it at all. Regards. Trudie Marais trudie@freedomlinetech.co.za 041-3795429 0828689433

Hi Elspeth. Contact/phone me off list if you still need info on KWT. I can supply you with all (I think) the info you will need for your visit. I have taken my German Group twice on a tour to that area, but the info is too much for an e-mail on the list. I can better your accommodation idea. I can assure you I am entirely helping you without getting any benefit from it at all. Regards. Trudie Marais trudie@freedomlinetech.co.za 041-3795429 0828689433

Hi Fay Yes, John Edward NELSON was also the son of Thomas & Mary Ann as per below. He married Loveday Ann Amelia COCK 13 May 1840 Grahamstown and they had 13 children Edward William, Loveday Ann, Mary Ann, Elizabeth Mary, John Edward, Lucy Maud, Thomas, Thomas Charles, William, Charles Horatio, Emma, Alice Maude and Benjamin. Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Fay Lea Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 8:28 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Hi Lynn & Rod, Are the folk below any relation? I have a Mary Ann Nelson born 26th Feb 1845 - 1916 (daughter of John Edward Nelsonn and Loveday Ann Amelia Cook) who married John Edward Cawood 1843-1865 in Cradock on the 28th June 1865. John Edward Nelson was a Captian in the Cradock Mounted Volunteers Regards Fay -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn MacLeod Sent: 26 October 2012 09:05 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Hi Rod Apologies for delay but I have had two hard drives fail on me and I think things are now working!! Mary Ann NELSON b 30 May 1845 died 1928 x William Henry HAYWARD 15 Oct 1862 Langdon, Peddie Dist. She was the daughter of Joseph NELSON b 14 Jun 1823 & Rosalie Sarah MURPHY. Joseph was the son of Thomas NELSON b Abt. 1791 Nottinghamshire & Mary Ann CORDEN Matilda Ann NELSON b Abt. 1820 d 24 Jun 1902 was also their daughter (Thomas & Mary Ann above) Hope this helps. Take care Lynn

Hi Lynn Thank you for this link ref. I had my doubts about the 87 years all the time and was hoping that it is 67 yrs. If there was only a 15 year age difference and not 35, it might be possible that they had children. I am still searching for a birth or baptismal record of her to be very sure. Regards On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Lynn MacLeod <MacLeod.Family@xtra.co.nz>wrote: > HI Louise > If its any help... if you look again at the photograph on eGGSA > http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1315773 it shows her > age as 67 (not 87) at death making her d.o.b. Abt. 1858 - 15 years > difference > between their ages?? > Take care > Lynn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Louisa Louw > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:10 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] JEWELL, JAMES, JOHNSON, CHERRY, HARRISON, DU PLESSIS, > WARNER on Cape Civil Service List 1900 > > Hi Lynette > > My apologies for taking such a long time to reply. > > > > My JOHNSON connection: > > My grandfather Henry Stephen JAMES, born 22 May 1873, d.12 Oct 1950, PE > > Married 1st wife: Gertruida Wilhelmina Johanna JOHNSON. b abt.1838, d.2 Jan > 1925, PE. Buried at South End, PE. On the gravestone (eggsa) it says she > was 87 yrs old, which would mean she was 35 yrs older than him, so I don’t > think there could be any children between the 2 of them. I am in search of > the names of her parents and brothers and sisters, but up to now couldn’t > trace anything about her birth or whereabouts when and before she got > married to my grandfather. If I can find that, I’m sure I’ll be able to > bring the connection with other JOHNSON links. > > > > I have a copy of the Master of the Supreme Court which shows their address > at the time of her death as Fairview Estate, Walmer side, PE. According to > my mother Fairview Estate was the house where she grew up and the street > address was #18, 17th Avenue, Walmer, PE. > > > > Unfortunately the surname BEST sounds unfamiliar to me, BUT on the other > hand, my mother knows nothing at all about the JOHNSON side of the family > and won’t know if there maybe was a BEST married into the family. She was > the youngest child and away in a boarding school during her school years > and there wasn’t much opportunity to come to know more of the family. > > > > I’m going to put the info of the previous generations on the ZA-EC mailing > list for the other people to see. Hopefully it will be before the end of > the weekend, and hopefully it will lead to lots of new connections, for > some other people and for me. I really want to have a “mini” Family Tree > finished by Dec to give to my mother for Christmas. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jennifer Bell, I noticed you emailed on the list. I am also researching the Bell family. I am Christine (Bell)Weaver, Grandfather Henry Bell of PE, GG Edward Bell of Grahamstown, PE and Kimberley. My GGG is unknown, though apparently he was a dentist and he was in Kimberley at a point as we have a photo of him from Middlebrooks Studios in Kimberley. Anyway, the chances are extremely slim that we are from the same clan, but I will be happy to share any information I have! Take care Christine Sent from my iPod On 2012-10-27, at 3:00 AM, south-africa-eastern-cape-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: HAYWARD/Nelson (Lynn MacLeod) > 2. LDS Family history centres Cape Town (Elspeth Muirhead) > 3. Re: LDS Family history centres Cape Town (The Bell Family) > 4. Re: LDS Family history centres Cape Town (Elspeth Muirhead) > 5. Re: LDS Family history centres Cape Town (simonek@mweb.co.za) > 6. Re: Lookups - John Alexander RALPH (Norma Patrick) > 7. Visiting King Williams Town (Elspeth Muirhead) > 8. Re: Lookups - John Alexander RALPH (Norma Patrick) > 9. LIEBETRAU Family Bible (shirley paladin) > 10. Re: JAMES, JOHNSON, CHERRY, HARRISON on Cape Civil Service > List 1900 (Louisa Louw) > 11. Re: JEWELL, JAMES, JOHNSON, CHERRY, HARRISON, DU PLESSIS, > WARNER on Cape Civil Service List 1900 (Louisa Louw) > 12. Re: JEWELL, JAMES, JOHNSON, CHERRY, HARRISON, DU PLESSIS, > WARNER on Cape Civil Service List 1900 (Lynn MacLeod) > 13. Re: Tracing farms Komgha & Dordrecht / Indwe districts > (Paul le Roux) > Hi Rod > Apologies for delay but I have had two hard drives fail on me and I think things are now working!! > Mary Ann NELSON b 30 May 1845 died 1928 x William Henry HAYWARD 15 Oct 1862 Langdon, Peddie Dist. > She was the daughter of Joseph NELSON b 14 Jun 1823 & Rosalie Sarah MURPHY. > Joseph was the son of Thomas NELSON b Abt. 1791 Nottinghamshire & Mary Ann CORDEN > Matilda Ann NELSON b Abt. 1820 d 24 Jun 1902 was also their daughter (Thomas & Mary Ann above) > Hope this helps. > Take care > Lynn > > -----Original Message----- From: First name Last name > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:02 PM > To: macleod.family@xtra.co.nz ; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson > > Good Morning all, > Lynn would you possible have the NELSON links between Mary Ann and Matilda Ann? I would like to plot their linkages. > > Regards, > > Rod g > > > From: MacLeod.Family@xtra.co.nz > Sent:2012-08-22 02:58:51 > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD > Hi Gail > Hopefully this will go through.. > Born Abt. 1890 died 1925 > He was the son of William Henry HAYWARD b 1839 and Mary Ann NELSON > son of William HAYWARD b 1814 &Matilda Ann NELSON > Take care > Lynn > > -----Original Message----- From: Gail Röthlin > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:58 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD > Jarvis Reckless HAYWARD, aged 23, a bachelor and warden living in Peddie, > married Florence Ann Dorothy NEUPER, aged 21 from Wooldridge, on 27 Aug 1913 > at St Andrew's Church at Wooldridge. > Could sks enlighten me as to where and how HR HAYWARD fits into the HAYWARD > tree? > > > Hi listers > > > > Could anyone tell me which centres are still operating - the one at > Meadowridge no longer seems to be in operation?? I do remember something > that it was only going to be in Belville?? I am obviously not looking > correctly but I can't find a phone number for a single SA centre to ask - > could someone help me please? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Elspeth > > > Elspeth, > https://familysearch.org/locations for locations of all the centers > world-wide. > > Regards, > Jennifer Bell > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elspeth > Muirhead > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:16 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town > > Hi listers > > > > Could anyone tell me which centres are still operating - the one at > Meadowridge no longer seems to be in operation?? I do remember something > that it was only going to be in Belville?? I am obviously not looking > correctly but I can't find a phone number for a single SA centre to ask - > could someone help me please? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Elspeth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Thanks Jennifer, > > But I tried it and it really doesn't work for Cape Town. All I got was a > vague reference to Fish Hoek. No concrete address - a marker where there > is/was a centre - but nothing else. > > ge----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The > Bell Family > Sent: 26 October 2012 01:33 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town > > Elspeth, > https://familysearch.org/locations for locations of all the centers > world-wide. > > Regards, > Jennifer Bell > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elspeth > Muirhead > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:16 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town > > Hi listers > > > > Could anyone tell me which centres are still operating - the one at > Meadowridge no longer seems to be in operation?? I do remember something > that it was only going to be in Belville?? I am obviously not looking > correctly but I can't find a phone number for a single SA centre to ask - > could someone help me please? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Elspeth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > hi > > > > > There is a FHC at the church in Loevenstein, Bellville, but I was sadly disappointed the one time I went there. > > > > > They are only open one evening a week ( I was given incorrect infi and arrived the wrong night) and I was informed that they do not keep films there, one has to order it and it takes 6 weeks to arrive. > > > > > You are better off going to GISA. > > > > > Regards > > Simone > > > > > > From: eamuirhead@telkomsa.net > Sent:2012-10-26 13:47:06 > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Cc: > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town > Thanks Jennifer, > > But I tried it and it really doesn't work for Cape Town. All I got was a > vague reference to Fish Hoek. No concrete address - a marker where there > is/was a centre - but nothing else. > > ge----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of The > Bell Family > Sent: 26 October 2012 01:33 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town > > Elspeth, > https://familysearch.org/locations for locations of all the centers > world-wide. > > Regards, > Jennifer Bell > > -----Original Message----- > From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elspeth > Muirhead > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 7:16 AM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ZA-EC] LDS Family history centres Cape Town > > Hi listers > > > > Could anyone tell me which centres are still operating - the one at > Meadowridge no longer seems to be in operation?? I do remember something > that it was only going to be in Belville?? I am obviously not looking > correctly but I can't find a phone number for a single SA centre to ask - > could someone help me please? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Elspeth > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Dear Mike, > I have had a good squiz and I dont have Hannah Palmer. I am stuck with > this line - it could be your lot, but this is all I have and the fact that > He was Chief Constable in Knysna. > > Were your bunch from Knysna, or do you recognise any of these? > > Thanks > Norma > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Norma Patrick <norma.patrick8@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Thanks Michael >> Rushing out now, but will look up if I can place Hannah and let you know. >> My John Alexander Ralph was born 1836 and died 1901. He was Chief >> Constable in Knysna at one stage. >> >> Cheers >> Norma >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, MICHAELJ WATTRUS < >> michaeljwattrus@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Norma >>> Hannah Palmer RALPH is my 2nd Great-Grandmother, I have a John listed but >>> the Alexander name appears in the RALPH Tree frequently, maybe we can >>> compare notes. >>> Regards >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Hi Nikki >>> Could you please look if John Alexander Ralph is there? >>> Many thanks >>> Norma >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> > > Hi everyone > > > > Sorry to be such a pest at the moment - I'll offer some look-ups at CT > Archives in exchange for advise for my trip. > > > > I don't know the area, and find conflicting reports on what the on town is > like - how long to spend there. Accomodation is also really more than I can > afford - geared to business visitors. Would it possibly be better to go for > a farm stay in Stutterheim and then drive back into kwt on the days I want > to be there? > > > > Thank you. > > > > elspeth > > > The following was received from Viv Kymdell in response to my 2005 Rootsweb > enquiry:. There seems to be two Ralph families, yours and mine, but dont > think they tie up. > > Cheers Norma > > Richard RALPH x Elizabeth MILLS > > [b] 1. Joseph RALPH x Carolina Margareta Peterson [I would have thought > Pietersen - Viv.] > [c] 1. Hanna Palmer RALPH *Palmietfontein, Somerset East 5.5.1839 + > Molteno 20.4.1919 # Molteno x Somerset East 17.2.1857 Alexander Daniel Peter > JUBBER * Grahamstown 9.5.1828 + Molteno 7.3.1903 # Molteno. Alexander and > Hanna had 19 [nineteen] children. If you would like the children, just let > me know. > [His 1st wife is shown as Sarah [Loveridge] LOVE * Trappes Valley, Albany > 1.11.1834 + Bloemfontein, OFS 27.4.1852, Alexander and Sarah show 2 > children]. > > > Susanna Catharina Magdalena RALPH * Burgersdorp CP 18.5.1942 x 7.7.1962 > Pieter Hendrik HENNING * Cathcart 12.1.1941 son of Stephanus Johannes Paulus > HENNING [1918 - 1988] and Edith Mary GREYLING [1917 1965] > Susanna and Pieter show 4 children. > > > > William Henry RALPH x Wesleyan Methodist Church, Queenstown Ester Sarah > MITCHLEY *Kimberley 9.10.1877 ~ Wesleyan Methodist Church, Kimberley > 29.10.1877, dau of Frederick James MITCHLEY and Elizabeth Ann RIDGARD > [1856 - 1899]. > There are no dates shown for William and no children shown, the notes record > that his occupation is given as a platelayer, residing in Queenstown [Cape > Government Railways]. > > > > Lynette RALPH *27.7.1968 x Bloemfontein, OFS 2.4.1988 Matthys Johannes VAN > REENEN *23.12.1960, son of Jacob Johannes VAN REENEN [1931-1978] and Ester > DEINER > Lynette and Matthys show 1 dau. > > > John RALPH x abt 1761 PA. USA, Verena HUNSAKER * PA. USA 1740, parents from > Switzerland. > > Hi to the list, > During the past week I visited a bookshop in Johannesburg and saw a > small leather bound bible about the size of a paperback) for sale, > with very feint entries on 5 pages listing the LIEBETRAU Family > starting with Johann Lorentz LIEBETRAU b. 20 Dec 1772 married Helena > Elizabeth KUSTER (KUSLER)? b. 30 Apr 1784 and other entries up to > about 1848. There was also another leather bound bible (bigger than > A4) and text in Welsh - I think, and there was a single page with > about 5 entries and starting with John MORGANS b. 15 Jul 1823 married > Catherien MORGANS. > They kindly allowed me to photograph them, (not great photos > unfortunately) but if anyone would like copies, just give me a shout. > > Best wishes > Shirley > > Hi Nikki > > > > Taking the first names of the males of the JAMES family into consideration > it seems I need to ask for more info of the following persons, please: > > > > JAMES: Joseph > > Thomas > > JOHNSON: Francis Robert > > Harry Smythe > > Francis Herbert > > William John > > CHERRY: George William > > HARRISON: George Alfred > > > > Hopefully there will be some leads to link the JAMES marriages to the other > surnames. > > > > Thank you in advance > > Louisa > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Nikki <alnic@polka.co.za> wrote: > >> >> You wrote: >> >> If any of these are relevant to you just shout and I will type up what info >> there is. >> Kind regards >> Nikki >> Sedgefield >> >> >> >> > > Hi Lynette > > My apologies for taking such a long time to reply. > > > > My JOHNSON connection: > > My grandfather Henry Stephen JAMES, born 22 May 1873, d.12 Oct 1950, PE > > Married 1st wife: Gertruida Wilhelmina Johanna JOHNSON. b abt.1838, d.2 Jan > 1925, PE. Buried at South End, PE. On the gravestone (eggsa) it says she > was 87 yrs old, which would mean she was 35 yrs older than him, so I don’t > think there could be any children between the 2 of them. I am in search of > the names of her parents and brothers and sisters, but up to now couldn’t > trace anything about her birth or whereabouts when and before she got > married to my grandfather. If I can find that, I’m sure I’ll be able to > bring the connection with other JOHNSON links. > > > > I have a copy of the Master of the Supreme Court which shows their address > at the time of her death as Fairview Estate, Walmer side, PE. According to > my mother Fairview Estate was the house where she grew up and the street > address was #18, 17th Avenue, Walmer, PE. > > > > Unfortunately the surname BEST sounds unfamiliar to me, BUT on the other > hand, my mother knows nothing at all about the JOHNSON side of the family > and won’t know if there maybe was a BEST married into the family. She was > the youngest child and away in a boarding school during her school years > and there wasn’t much opportunity to come to know more of the family. > > > > I’m going to put the info of the previous generations on the ZA-EC mailing > list for the other people to see. Hopefully it will be before the end of > the weekend, and hopefully it will lead to lots of new connections, for > some other people and for me. I really want to have a “mini” Family Tree > finished by Dec to give to my mother for Christmas. > > > > Regards to you > > Louisa > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Lynette McWilliams Troughton < > lynettemcwtroughton@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> What is your connection with the JOHNSON's. My JOHNSON's come from >> George. Do you have any connection to this family/ I also have an >> EmmaAnna BEST who married a John Graham JOHNSON in about 1868. >> Regards, >> Lynette from OZ >> >>> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:50:55 +0200 >>> From: lllouisa60@gmail.com >>> To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [ZA-EC] JEWELL, JAMES, JOHNSON, CHERRY, HARRISON, DU PLESSIS, >> WARNER on Cape Civil Service List 1900 >>> >>> Hello Nikki, >>> >>> I would be grateful if you would check if there are anything on the list >> of >>> JEWELL, JAMES, JOHNSON, CHERRY, HARRISON, DU PLESSIS or WARNER. >>> >>> Thank you very much, >>> Louisa >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> >> > > HI Louise > If its any help... if you look again at the photograph on eGGSA > http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1315773 it shows her > age as 67 (not 87) at death making her d.o.b. Abt. 1858 - 15 years difference > between their ages?? > Take care > Lynn > > -----Original Message----- From: Louisa Louw > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:10 PM > To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] JEWELL, JAMES, JOHNSON, CHERRY, HARRISON, DU PLESSIS, WARNER on Cape Civil Service List 1900 > > Hi Lynette > > My apologies for taking such a long time to reply. > > > > My JOHNSON connection: > > My grandfather Henry Stephen JAMES, born 22 May 1873, d.12 Oct 1950, PE > > Married 1st wife: Gertruida Wilhelmina Johanna JOHNSON. b abt.1838, d.2 Jan > 1925, PE. Buried at South End, PE. On the gravestone (eggsa) it says she > was 87 yrs old, which would mean she was 35 yrs older than him, so I don’t > think there could be any children between the 2 of them. I am in search of > the names of her parents and brothers and sisters, but up to now couldn’t > trace anything about her birth or whereabouts when and before she got > married to my grandfather. If I can find that, I’m sure I’ll be able to > bring the connection with other JOHNSON links. > > > > I have a copy of the Master of the Supreme Court which shows their address > at the time of her death as Fairview Estate, Walmer side, PE. According to > my mother Fairview Estate was the house where she grew up and the street > address was #18, 17th Avenue, Walmer, PE. > > > > Unfortunately the surname BEST sounds unfamiliar to me, BUT on the other > hand, my mother knows nothing at all about the JOHNSON side of the family > and won’t know if there maybe was a BEST married into the family. She was > the youngest child and away in a boarding school during her school years > and there wasn’t much opportunity to come to know more of the family. > > > > I’m going to put the info of the previous generations on the ZA-EC mailing > list for the other people to see. Hopefully it will be before the end of > the weekend, and hopefully it will lead to lots of new connections, for > some other people and for me. I really want to have a “mini” Family Tree > finished by Dec to give to my mother for Christmas. > > > > Dear Malcolm, > > Do you see a map of Africa? - Click anywhere on South Africa. > This should take you to a page that looks almost like a directory-tree > > Click on the plus sign before South Africa to expand that branch. > The either click on the sgSA250k (lesser detail maps) or > Expand the sgSA50k (more detail maps) and then click on the province. > > You should now see a grid of SA / an area of SA. Click on the block you are > interested in. > > You will see a thumbnail photo of the map and below it a download button. > Click on download and select save to your PC. > > Hope it works. > > Regards > Paul > > > To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE list administrator, send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE mailing list, send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text.

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HI Louise If its any help... if you look again at the photograph on eGGSA http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=1315773 it shows her age as 67 (not 87) at death making her d.o.b. Abt. 1858 - 15 years difference between their ages?? Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Louisa Louw Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 12:10 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] JEWELL, JAMES, JOHNSON, CHERRY, HARRISON, DU PLESSIS, WARNER on Cape Civil Service List 1900 Hi Lynette My apologies for taking such a long time to reply. My JOHNSON connection: My grandfather Henry Stephen JAMES, born 22 May 1873, d.12 Oct 1950, PE Married 1st wife: Gertruida Wilhelmina Johanna JOHNSON. b abt.1838, d.2 Jan 1925, PE. Buried at South End, PE. On the gravestone (eggsa) it says she was 87 yrs old, which would mean she was 35 yrs older than him, so I don’t think there could be any children between the 2 of them. I am in search of the names of her parents and brothers and sisters, but up to now couldn’t trace anything about her birth or whereabouts when and before she got married to my grandfather. If I can find that, I’m sure I’ll be able to bring the connection with other JOHNSON links. I have a copy of the Master of the Supreme Court which shows their address at the time of her death as Fairview Estate, Walmer side, PE. According to my mother Fairview Estate was the house where she grew up and the street address was #18, 17th Avenue, Walmer, PE. Unfortunately the surname BEST sounds unfamiliar to me, BUT on the other hand, my mother knows nothing at all about the JOHNSON side of the family and won’t know if there maybe was a BEST married into the family. She was the youngest child and away in a boarding school during her school years and there wasn’t much opportunity to come to know more of the family. I’m going to put the info of the previous generations on the ZA-EC mailing list for the other people to see. Hopefully it will be before the end of the weekend, and hopefully it will lead to lots of new connections, for some other people and for me. I really want to have a “mini” Family Tree finished by Dec to give to my mother for Christmas.

Hi Mike and Norma I don't know anything about John Alexander RALPH, but along the line I inherited some notes on the RALPH family tree from my sister-in-laws mother - she was a KNOTT and the KNOTT and RALPH lines are inter-linked. I am not researching the RALPH line at all, but seeing the correspondence below prompted me to pull out these notes. There were two RALPH families in FORD's 1820 Settler Party who went out to the Eastern Cape on the Weymouth in 1820: 1. Richard RALPH (b. abt 1790/91 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) married in abt 1815 to Elizabeth MILLS (b. 1790). Richard and Elizabeth had 4 children: Harriet (b. 1815/16), Samuel or Stephen (b. 1818 and di. shortly after their arrival in the Cape), Sarah and Agatha. So as the only son died young there are no male RALPH descendants from this line. 2. Joseph RALPH (b. 15 Jul 1792 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) a Baptist Lay Preacher married in 1815 at Crockerton, Wiltshire to Elizabeth CURTIS (b. ? Crockerton, Wiltshire and died sometime between Dec 1827 and Dec 1834 in the Eastern Cape) I suspect that Richard and Joseph RALPH were most likely brothers - both families came from Crockerton in Wiltshire, England. I haven't checked Sue McKay's 1820 Settler correspondence - there may be more clues in that on their relationship. Joseph RALPH and Elizabeth CURTIS had 5 children: Joseph (b. 1816, d. 1837), Mary (b. 1819, d. 21 Feb 1820 at sea), John (b. 1822), Rhoda (b. 1824), and Jemima (b. 1827). After Elizabeth died Joseph CURTIS married Carolina Margaretha PIETERSON (or PIETERSEN) in Dec 1834 in Somerset East. Joseph and Carolina had 11 children: i) Catherine RALPH (b. 13 Oct 1837 - Botha's Post, Cradock district) ii) Hannah Palmer RALPH (b. 05 May 1839 - Botha's Post Cradock district) ..... rest of her details in Mike's email below iii) Jacoba RALPH (b. 09 Nov 1840 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) iv) Samuel Richard RALPH (b. 25 May 1842 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) v) Benjamin RALPH (b. 15 Dec 1844 - - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) vi) Peter RALPH (b. 26 Oct 1846 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) vii) James RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1848 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) viii) Caroline RALPH (b. 10 Mar 1851 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) ix) Daniel RALPH (b. 23 Aug 1854 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) x) William Walker RALPH (b. 17 Sep 1856 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) xi) Jesse RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1858 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) I have further details on Benjamin RALPH's descendants if anyone is interested. The source for the information on Joseph RALPH's family is a typed note by Harold James RALPH - Joseph's g.grandson and with handwritten annotations by Harold and presumably by Ann SMITH (nee KNOTT). There is a third RALPH 1820 Settler - John RALPH (b. abt 1799) in ERITH's Party - I don't anything more about this line. I hope this info is of use to someone. Best wishes Craig -----Original Message----- From: Norma Patrick Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:21 PM To: MICHAELJ WATTRUS ; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Lookups - John Alexander RALPH The following was received from Viv Kymdell in response to my 2005 Rootsweb enquiry:. There seems to be two Ralph families, yours and mine, but dont think they tie up. Cheers Norma Richard RALPH x Elizabeth MILLS [b] 1. Joseph RALPH x Carolina Margareta Peterson [I would have thought Pietersen - Viv.] [c] 1. Hanna Palmer RALPH *Palmietfontein, Somerset East 5.5.1839 + Molteno 20.4.1919 # Molteno x Somerset East 17.2.1857 Alexander Daniel Peter JUBBER * Grahamstown 9.5.1828 + Molteno 7.3.1903 # Molteno. Alexander and Hanna had 19 [nineteen] children. If you would like the children, just let me know. [His 1st wife is shown as Sarah [Loveridge] LOVE * Trappes Valley, Albany 1.11.1834 + Bloemfontein, OFS 27.4.1852, Alexander and Sarah show 2 children]. Susanna Catharina Magdalena RALPH * Burgersdorp CP 18.5.1942 x 7.7.1962 Pieter Hendrik HENNING * Cathcart 12.1.1941 son of Stephanus Johannes Paulus HENNING [1918 - 1988] and Edith Mary GREYLING [1917 1965] Susanna and Pieter show 4 children. William Henry RALPH x Wesleyan Methodist Church, Queenstown Ester Sarah MITCHLEY *Kimberley 9.10.1877 ~ Wesleyan Methodist Church, Kimberley 29.10.1877, dau of Frederick James MITCHLEY and Elizabeth Ann RIDGARD [1856 - 1899]. There are no dates shown for William and no children shown, the notes record that his occupation is given as a platelayer, residing in Queenstown [Cape Government Railways]. Lynette RALPH *27.7.1968 x Bloemfontein, OFS 2.4.1988 Matthys Johannes VAN REENEN *23.12.1960, son of Jacob Johannes VAN REENEN [1931-1978] and Ester DEINER Lynette and Matthys show 1 dau. John RALPH x abt 1761 PA. USA, Verena HUNSAKER * PA. USA 1740, parents from Switzerland.

Dear Craig I'm looking for further info inthe below-mentioned Harold James RALPH. He married into my TROLLIP tree. Any biographical details/dates would be excellent. Do you know who his parents were? Many thanks Russell > The source for the information on Joseph RALPH's family is a typed note by > Harold James RALPH - Joseph's g.grandson and with handwritten annotations > by > Harold and presumably by Ann SMITH (nee KNOTT). > > There is a third RALPH 1820 Settler - John RALPH (b. abt 1799) in ERITH's > Party - I don't anything more about this line. > > I hope this info is of use to someone. > > Best wishes > Craig

Hi Lynn & Rod, Are the folk below any relation? I have a Mary Ann Nelson born 26th Feb 1845 - 1916 (daughter of John Edward Nelsonn and Loveday Ann Amelia Cook) who married John Edward Cawood 1843-1865 in Cradock on the 28th June 1865. John Edward Nelson was a Captian in the Cradock Mounted Volunteers Regards Fay -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn MacLeod Sent: 26 October 2012 09:05 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Hi Rod Apologies for delay but I have had two hard drives fail on me and I think things are now working!! Mary Ann NELSON b 30 May 1845 died 1928 x William Henry HAYWARD 15 Oct 1862 Langdon, Peddie Dist. She was the daughter of Joseph NELSON b 14 Jun 1823 & Rosalie Sarah MURPHY. Joseph was the son of Thomas NELSON b Abt. 1791 Nottinghamshire & Mary Ann CORDEN Matilda Ann NELSON b Abt. 1820 d 24 Jun 1902 was also their daughter (Thomas & Mary Ann above) Hope this helps. Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: First name Last name Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:02 PM To: macleod.family@xtra.co.nz ; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD/Nelson Good Morning all, Lynn would you possible have the NELSON links between Mary Ann and Matilda Ann? I would like to plot their linkages. Regards, Rod g From: MacLeod.Family@xtra.co.nz Sent:2012-08-22 02:58:51 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Cc: Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD Hi Gail Hopefully this will go through.. Born Abt. 1890 died 1925 He was the son of William Henry HAYWARD b 1839 and Mary Ann NELSON son of William HAYWARD b 1814 &Matilda Ann NELSON Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Gail Röthlin Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:58 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] HAYWARD Jarvis Reckless HAYWARD, aged 23, a bachelor and warden living in Peddie, married Florence Ann Dorothy NEUPER, aged 21 from Wooldridge, on 27 Aug 1913 at St Andrew's Church at Wooldridge. Could sks enlighten me as to where and how HR HAYWARD fits into the HAYWARD tree? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. Port Elizabeth, Thursday, March 12, 1987. BIRTHS. BLACKLAWS. – To Dean and Mabel, a son Mark, born on Tuesday, March 10, 1987 at the Uitenhage Provincial Hospital. HELMAN. – To Tord and Niki (nee KLEINHANS), a son Todd, born March 9, 1987 in Vasteras, Sweden. Grandson to Maynhardt and Shirly. BATMITZVAHS. WISNEWITZ. – Norma, daughter of Julius and Bobby, will conduct the service at Temple Israel on Friday, March 13, 1987 at 6.15 pm and Saturday, March 14, at 10 am. DEATHS. ARZI. – Sharonah, died tragically in a motor accident in Israel on Wednesday, March 11, 1987. Daughter of Chanoch and Josephine, sister of Gill and Ron, granddaughter of Aubrey and Doris BRAUDE. Remembered by Mervyn and Collette and Mervyn BRAUDE; Ester JUBILIZI. BARBOUR. – James, passed away on Monday, March 9, 1987. Father of Nicole. Missed by Nicola and Rose; members of the Algoa Bay Yacht Club. NUNS. – Patricia May, passed away on Monday, March 9, 1987 at Jeffreys Bay. Mourned by her husband Percy and sons Keith and Clive. SMUTS. – Walter Arnold, passed away on Tuesday, March 10, 1987. Father of Marie, Johann and Elaine. FUNERAL NOTICES. BARBOUR. - James, passed away on Monday, March 9, 1987. Missed by Doreen, Mike and family. The funeral service will take place at the Methodist Church, Port Alfred at 11 am, tomorrow (Friday), March 13.Thence to West Cemetery. IN MEMORIAM. ASHLEY-COOPER. - John, passed away 5 years ago. Remembered by his family. CHERRY. – Joseph Charles, passed away 7 years ago. Missed by Jo, Jane, Ruth, Johan and families. KRUGER. – Judith, passed away March 12, 1986. Remembered by Zoé, Ewald, Irma and families. OWEN. – Pat, passed away March 12, 1985. Remembered by husband Percy, and family also Peggy.