Hi Graham Sorry, I don't have anything on your RALPH's Best wishes Craig -----Original Message----- From: Graham Dickason Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 4:53 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Lookups - John Alexander RALPH Hi Craig, I would be interested in any Ralphs from Thaba "Nchu, Free State. Johnny Ralph, the 1940's boxer, had a sister Lilian who married into the Dickasons Thanks Graham -------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Hilton-Taylor" <craig.hilton-taylor@sky.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:42 PM To: "MICHAELJ WATTRUS" <michaeljwattrus@btinternet.com>; <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Lookups - John Alexander RALPH > Hi Mike and Norma > > I don't know anything about John Alexander RALPH, but along the line I > inherited some notes on the RALPH family tree from my sister-in-laws > mother - she was a KNOTT and the KNOTT and RALPH lines are inter-linked. > > I am not researching the RALPH line at all, but seeing the correspondence > below prompted me to pull out these notes. > > There were two RALPH families in FORD's 1820 Settler Party who went out to > the Eastern Cape on the Weymouth in 1820: > > 1. Richard RALPH (b. abt 1790/91 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) married in abt > 1815 to Elizabeth MILLS (b. 1790). Richard and Elizabeth had 4 children: > Harriet (b. 1815/16), Samuel or Stephen (b. 1818 and di. shortly after > their > arrival in the Cape), Sarah and Agatha. So as the only son died young > there > are no male RALPH descendants from this line. > > 2. Joseph RALPH (b. 15 Jul 1792 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) a Baptist Lay > Preacher married in 1815 at Crockerton, Wiltshire to Elizabeth CURTIS (b. > ? > Crockerton, Wiltshire and died sometime between Dec 1827 and Dec 1834 in > the > Eastern Cape) > > I suspect that Richard and Joseph RALPH were most likely brothers - both > families came from Crockerton in Wiltshire, England. I haven't checked Sue > McKay's 1820 Settler correspondence - there may be more clues in that on > their relationship. > > Joseph RALPH and Elizabeth CURTIS had 5 children: Joseph (b. 1816, d. > 1837), > Mary (b. 1819, d. 21 Feb 1820 at sea), John (b. 1822), Rhoda (b. 1824), > and > Jemima (b. 1827). > > After Elizabeth died Joseph CURTIS married Carolina Margaretha PIETERSON > (or > PIETERSEN) in Dec 1834 in Somerset East. Joseph and Carolina had 11 > children: > i) Catherine RALPH (b. 13 Oct 1837 - Botha's Post, Cradock district) > ii) Hannah Palmer RALPH (b. 05 May 1839 - Botha's Post Cradock district) > ..... rest of her details in Mike's email below > iii) Jacoba RALPH (b. 09 Nov 1840 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > iv) Samuel Richard RALPH (b. 25 May 1842 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > v) Benjamin RALPH (b. 15 Dec 1844 - - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > vi) Peter RALPH (b. 26 Oct 1846 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > vii) James RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1848 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > viii) Caroline RALPH (b. 10 Mar 1851 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) > ix) Daniel RALPH (b. 23 Aug 1854 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) > x) William Walker RALPH (b. 17 Sep 1856 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > xi) Jesse RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1858 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > > > I have further details on Benjamin RALPH's descendants if anyone is > interested. > > The source for the information on Joseph RALPH's family is a typed note by > Harold James RALPH - Joseph's g.grandson and with handwritten annotations > by > Harold and presumably by Ann SMITH (nee KNOTT). > > There is a third RALPH 1820 Settler - John RALPH (b. abt 1799) in ERITH's > Party - I don't anything more about this line. > > I hope this info is of use to someone. > > Best wishes > Craig >

Hi There I am trying to trace a *Andriette Saayman who went to Hoerskool Brandwag in Uitenhage and matriciulated in 1962. Any help would really be appreciated. thanks Trixie *

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. Port Elizabeth, Thursday, May 14, 1987. BIRTHS. SERFONTYN. – To Trevor and Maria (nee ZAAIMAN), a daughter, Lauren, born on Tuesday, May 12, 1987 at Sandford. ENGAGEMENTS. CHANING-PEARCE. – PRESTON. Adrian and Dawn are thrilled to announce their engagement. DEATHS. BEATTIE. – Frances Jane, at Damant-Lodge, Port Alfred, on Tuesday, May 12, 1987. Sister of Andrew BEATTIE, Shrewsbury and Meg INGLES, Cremation private. FORLEE. – Tow Yen, passed away on Sunday, May 10, 1987. Remembered by his family. FREDERICKS. – Ma Mac, passed away on Sunday, May 10, 1987, sympathy to the KARA family. Missed by her neighbours Tony, Maliga and Maeshnie. FROST. – Ethel May, mother of David and Carryl, granny of Richard, Stephen and Sharon, passed away on Tuesday, May 12, 1987. HART. – Irene, passed away on Wednesday, May 13, 1987. Mourned by Rene, Gus, Susan, Sandi, Al and Calum; Peggy, Chick, Jean, Beryl and families. HILL. – Gladys, passed away on Monday, May 11, 1987. Remembered by Ella BROWN, Marge MUDIE and Lily WATT. RANDALL. – Nellie Alesia (nee GOODYEAR), wife of Wilfred and sister of Dorreen, Edna, Neville and George, passed away on Wednesday, May 6, 1987. FUNERAL NOTICES. FAGAN. – Lily Maria. The service will take place from the Salvation Army Church, Kensington, tomorrow (Friday), May 15, 1987 at 3.30 pm. Interment at the Forest Hill Cemetery. FROST. – Ethel May, passed away at the Provincial Hospital, Uitenhage on Tuesday, May 12, 1987. The cremation service will take place at St Katherine’s Anglican Church, Market Street, Uitenhage, tomorrow (Friday), May 15, at 2.30 pm. HART. – Irene Dorothy (Rene). Memorial service will be held at Walmer Methodist Church, Main Road, Walmer, Friday May 15, at 11 am. HERSCHEL. – Henry Walter, passed away on Monday, May 11, 1987. The cremation service will take place today, from the Crematorium at 3 pm (and not 2 p.m.) LAX. – William Louis Charles of Newhaven Home. The service will be conducted at the crematorium Chapel, Cambridge, East London, tomorrow (Friday), May 15, 1987 at 10 am. ST GEORGE-MOORE. – Ann, Remembered by Nellie and merle. The funeral service will take place tomorrow (Friday), May 15, 1987, at the Jones & Rice Chapel, York Road, North End, at 12 noon. IN MEMORIAM. ELLARD. – Bertie, passed away May 14, 1983. Remembered by his wife Molly and family. LAI PAN. – Ah On, passed away May 14, 1983. Remembered by Charmain, Alan and children; Maurice, Norma, Craig, Marilyn, Antonio, Bruce and Denver. PRESTON. – Buntu, passed away 2 years ago. Missed by Norma, Bob, Clinton, Tracy and Sean. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

Hi Craig, I would be interested in any Ralphs from Thaba "Nchu, Free State. Johnny Ralph, the 1940's boxer, had a sister Lilian who married into the Dickasons Thanks Graham -------------------------------------------------- From: "Craig Hilton-Taylor" <craig.hilton-taylor@sky.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 1:42 PM To: "MICHAELJ WATTRUS" <michaeljwattrus@btinternet.com>; <south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Lookups - John Alexander RALPH > Hi Mike and Norma > > I don't know anything about John Alexander RALPH, but along the line I > inherited some notes on the RALPH family tree from my sister-in-laws > mother - she was a KNOTT and the KNOTT and RALPH lines are inter-linked. > > I am not researching the RALPH line at all, but seeing the correspondence > below prompted me to pull out these notes. > > There were two RALPH families in FORD's 1820 Settler Party who went out to > the Eastern Cape on the Weymouth in 1820: > > 1. Richard RALPH (b. abt 1790/91 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) married in abt > 1815 to Elizabeth MILLS (b. 1790). Richard and Elizabeth had 4 children: > Harriet (b. 1815/16), Samuel or Stephen (b. 1818 and di. shortly after > their > arrival in the Cape), Sarah and Agatha. So as the only son died young > there > are no male RALPH descendants from this line. > > 2. Joseph RALPH (b. 15 Jul 1792 in Crockerton, Wiltshire) a Baptist Lay > Preacher married in 1815 at Crockerton, Wiltshire to Elizabeth CURTIS (b. > ? > Crockerton, Wiltshire and died sometime between Dec 1827 and Dec 1834 in > the > Eastern Cape) > > I suspect that Richard and Joseph RALPH were most likely brothers - both > families came from Crockerton in Wiltshire, England. I haven't checked Sue > McKay's 1820 Settler correspondence - there may be more clues in that on > their relationship. > > Joseph RALPH and Elizabeth CURTIS had 5 children: Joseph (b. 1816, d. > 1837), > Mary (b. 1819, d. 21 Feb 1820 at sea), John (b. 1822), Rhoda (b. 1824), > and > Jemima (b. 1827). > > After Elizabeth died Joseph CURTIS married Carolina Margaretha PIETERSON > (or > PIETERSEN) in Dec 1834 in Somerset East. Joseph and Carolina had 11 > children: > i) Catherine RALPH (b. 13 Oct 1837 - Botha's Post, Cradock district) > ii) Hannah Palmer RALPH (b. 05 May 1839 - Botha's Post Cradock district) > ..... rest of her details in Mike's email below > iii) Jacoba RALPH (b. 09 Nov 1840 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > iv) Samuel Richard RALPH (b. 25 May 1842 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > v) Benjamin RALPH (b. 15 Dec 1844 - - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > vi) Peter RALPH (b. 26 Oct 1846 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > vii) James RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1848 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > viii) Caroline RALPH (b. 10 Mar 1851 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) > ix) Daniel RALPH (b. 23 Aug 1854 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown)) > x) William Walker RALPH (b. 17 Sep 1856 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > xi) Jesse RALPH (b. 28 Oct 1858 - Kogelhouts Kop, Queenstown) > > > I have further details on Benjamin RALPH's descendants if anyone is > interested. > > The source for the information on Joseph RALPH's family is a typed note by > Harold James RALPH - Joseph's g.grandson and with handwritten annotations > by > Harold and presumably by Ann SMITH (nee KNOTT). > > There is a third RALPH 1820 Settler - John RALPH (b. abt 1799) in ERITH's > Party - I don't anything more about this line. > > I hope this info is of use to someone. > > Best wishes > Craig > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Norma Patrick > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:21 PM > To: MICHAELJ WATTRUS ; south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Lookups - John Alexander RALPH > > The following was received from Viv Kymdell in response to my 2005 > Rootsweb > enquiry:. There seems to be two Ralph families, yours and mine, but dont > think they tie up. > > Cheers Norma > > Richard RALPH x Elizabeth MILLS > > [b] 1. Joseph RALPH x Carolina Margareta Peterson [I would have thought > Pietersen - Viv.] > [c] 1. Hanna Palmer RALPH *Palmietfontein, Somerset East 5.5.1839 + > Molteno 20.4.1919 # Molteno x Somerset East 17.2.1857 Alexander Daniel > Peter > JUBBER * Grahamstown 9.5.1828 + Molteno 7.3.1903 # Molteno. Alexander and > Hanna had 19 [nineteen] children. If you would like the children, just let > me know. > [His 1st wife is shown as Sarah [Loveridge] LOVE * Trappes Valley, Albany > 1.11.1834 + Bloemfontein, OFS 27.4.1852, Alexander and Sarah show 2 > children]. > > > Susanna Catharina Magdalena RALPH * Burgersdorp CP 18.5.1942 x 7.7.1962 > Pieter Hendrik HENNING * Cathcart 12.1.1941 son of Stephanus Johannes > Paulus > HENNING [1918 - 1988] and Edith Mary GREYLING [1917 1965] > Susanna and Pieter show 4 children. > > > > William Henry RALPH x Wesleyan Methodist Church, Queenstown Ester Sarah > MITCHLEY *Kimberley 9.10.1877 ~ Wesleyan Methodist Church, Kimberley > 29.10.1877, dau of Frederick James MITCHLEY and Elizabeth Ann RIDGARD > [1856 - 1899]. > There are no dates shown for William and no children shown, the notes > record > that his occupation is given as a platelayer, residing in Queenstown [Cape > Government Railways]. > > > > Lynette RALPH *27.7.1968 x Bloemfontein, OFS 2.4.1988 Matthys Johannes VAN > REENEN *23.12.1960, son of Jacob Johannes VAN REENEN [1931-1978] and Ester > DEINER > Lynette and Matthys show 1 dau. > > > John RALPH x abt 1761 PA. USA, Verena HUNSAKER * PA. USA 1740, parents > from > Switzerland. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kevin Have you tried the following? http://www.national.archives.gov.za/contact_info.htm Take care Brian Benningfield Independant Banners Broker Affiliate Phones: 27(0)832759857 or 27(0)219758695 Fax: 27(0)866848582 Skype: brianben65 E-Mail: brian.ben44@gmail.com Here is a new approach to online advertising -where you get paid for your impressions Go to: http://www.bannersbroker.com/onlinebiz4all -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Baxter [mailto:Kevin.Baxter@binzagr.com.sa] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 7:28 AM To: 'south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com' Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] reciprocal lookups Bloemfontein/Cape Town Hi Lynn / Brian - Are there email addresses for either Bloemfontein or Cape Town archives ? Will they do searches from email request ? Regards Kevin -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn MacLeod Sent: 05 November 2012 20:42 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] reciprocal lookups Bloemfontein/Cape Town Hi Brian As far as I know you were always able to write to the Bloemfontein archives for a file at no charge - not sure if anything has changed of late, Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Brian Benningfield Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:10 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] reciprocal lookups Bloemfontein/Cape Town Hi Listers I'm looking for someone prepared to do lookups for me at the Bloemfontein Archives in return for lookups at the Cape Town archives. Please contact me offline. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5376 - Release Date: 11/05/12

When you get that "black" image simply do a browser refresh and the new image comes up. Works a treat for me. On 2012/11/07 07:24 AM, Accounts IBF wrote: > Hi Alan > > You are right about the slowness and frustration of searching on the LDS > site, however, I have had some successes so keep plodding away. I keep a > detailed record of the year and the area I am looking in and if after 15 - > 20 minutes (depending on my time), it becomes clear that it is very slow and > blocking some images, I make a note of where I am and log off to try again > another time. Sometimes as little as a few minutes later, the same "black" > image opens up with no difficulty whatsoever (?) > > > Antoinette > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Thanks for the link to the Quiz Sue I am just so glad that the result was not for an exam.......The worst test results in my life..........even worse than my Latin.......I was hopeless and it showed one thing....................I don't think I am even qualified to switch my computer on Regards Elaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Mackay" <rhoosesue@yahoo.co.uk> To: "EC List" <SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-L@rootsweb.com>; "ZA-IB List" <SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS-BRITISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: [ZA-EC] Try this Quiz > For those who have some ancestry in the UK, try this quiz. I'll be very > impressed if you get them all right (I only managed 9, and one of those > was the right answer but the wrong reason!) but I guarantee you will be > interested. > > http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/law/staff/academic/probert/marriagelawforgenealogists/quiz/ > > Sue > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 7665 (20121106) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7665 (20121106) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com

Hi Pat, I have just been on to the Ancestry 24 Website: I can confirm that James Ronald GORDON was a sailor. He married Catherine LAMONT 2 Dec 1865.(port Elizabeth Marriages Methodist) You mentioned LAMONT: If the Alexander LAMONT buried there was born in 1 Feb 1809 and died 30 November 1864....(born Sutherlandshire Scotland)he would probably be old enough to be her father...was her sister Isabella LAMONT? I did find this...maybe the same man came out to South Africa after 1851 as he is on the 1851 census: (see LDS website) name: Alexr Lamont event type: Census event date: 1851 gender: Male age: 42 birthplace: Sutherlandshire registration district: county: Sutherland estimated birth year: 1809 film number: 1042005 Cheri -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Smith Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2012 7:39 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] St. George's Park Cemetery, Port Elizabeth Hello Cheri, Many thanks. That's one mystery solved. It looks as though Alexander LAMONT who appears to be buried in the same plot may be related in some way to Catherine LAMONT but I still have to prove this thought. Thanks again. Kind regards, Pat At 11:49 AM 2012/11/05 today in history, Cheri Marshall wrote the following: >Hi Pat, > From the records he is listed as "James Ronald" is listed as age 52 died 7 >mar 1889 and husband of Catherine. Margaret their daughter is listed as >:died 21 Feb 1930 age 68. Catherine is listed as the wife of "james Ronald" >and dies 14 may 19?5 age 65. In all three records he is "James Ronald >GORDON" >There is a Ronald Charles and a Ronald Allen GORDON but the time frame is >not yours and they were East London East bank . >Source:East and Southern cape burial and Cremation records complied by Colin >Levey and Liz Eshmade in april this year...(and BTW a very worthwhile >purchase !!) >Hope that helps >Cheri > >-----Original Message----- >From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat >Smith >Sent: Monday, 5 November 2012 7:23 PM >To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com >Subject: [ZA-EC] St. George's Park Cemetery, Port Elizabeth > >Hello Listers, > >Is there anyone on the list who has access to the St. George's Park >Cemetery, Port Elizabeth records? > >A Ronald and Catherine GORDON along with their daughter, Margaret, are >buried in the cemetery but the gravestone has been broken and all that can >be determined from what is left is that Catherine died aged 60 and Margaret >GORDON died 21 February 1930, aged 68. > >I am fairly certain that Ronald GORDON is James Ronald GORDON who married >Catherine LAMONT on 2 November 1865 in Port Elizabeth and the cemetery >records may assist in confirming this thought. > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Pat Smith

Hi Alan You are right about the slowness and frustration of searching on the LDS site, however, I have had some successes so keep plodding away. I keep a detailed record of the year and the area I am looking in and if after 15 - 20 minutes (depending on my time), it becomes clear that it is very slow and blocking some images, I make a note of where I am and log off to try again another time. Sometimes as little as a few minutes later, the same "black" image opens up with no difficulty whatsoever (?) Antoinette

EASTERN PROVINCE HERALD. Port Elizabeth, Friday, May 1, 1987. BIRTHS. HONEY. – To Andrew and Jenny (nee DAMERELL), a daughter born at Sandford on Wednesday, April 29, 1987. JACOBS. – To John and Pippa (nee TAYLOR), a daughter Megan Margaret, on Thursday, April 30, 1987 at Sandford. VAN NIEKERK. – To Deon and Wendy (nee SAYMAN), a son born on Tuesday, April 28, 1987 in East London and another grandchild for Wade and Suki. WATTERS. – To Vincent and Cheryl (nee PAPE), a son born Thursday, April 30, 1987 at Sandford. ENGAGEMENTS. CHIDDY. – LAWRENCE. Lesley, daughter of Brian TAYLOR of Port Elizabeth and the late Millie TAYLOR to Mark, son of Jos and Peter CHIDDY of Cape Town. MARRIAGES. BOLITER. – ROBINSON. To be married in Worcester, England, Saturday, May 9, 1987, Caroline, daughter of Mrs Margaret ROBINSON and Stuart, son of Albert and Jill, 8a Rosecroft Avenue, Hampstead, London. MORGAN. – GAJEANIKOLOU. At Rhodes, Greece, on April 26, 1987, Jennifer Ann, younger daughter of Eric and Norman, to Tasos, son of Mr and Mrs GAJEANIKOLOU. DEATHS. GEEL. – Douglas, husband of Priscilla, passed away April 29, 1987. Father of Peter and Rinet and grandfather to Nadine and Brendon. Missed by his sons David, Peter, Derek and Leon, daughters Virginia and Glynis, daughters-in-law Gaynor and Rinet, Ria and Gayle, son-in-law Brian and grandchildren; brother-in-law of Veronica and Doug. PLAATJIES. – Katherine Mercia, passed away tragically on Thursday, April 23, 1987. Missed by her family. Funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), May 2, at the St Bishop Apostolic Church, Krog Street, Korsten. FUNERAL NOTICES. FRANKS. – Richard (Oom Basie), passed away on Thursday, April 23, 1987. The funeral service will take place from the farm of J. FRANKS, at 2 pm, on Sunday, May 3, 1987. Thence to the Missionvale Cemetery. Mourned by Molly and family. OLSEN. Peter, of Keurboom Strand, Plettenberg Bay, passed away on Wednesday, April 28, 1987. Mourned by his wife Pam and family. The service will take place at the Methodist Church, Plettenberg Bay, at 11.30 am, today (Friday), May 1, 1987. POTGIETER. – Adam. The service will take place at the Old Apostolic Church, Kleinskool, tomorrow (Saturday), May 2, 1987 at 1 pm. TARENTAAL. – Francina. The funeral service will take place at the Roselane Congregational Church, tomorrow (Saturday), May 2, 1987, at 2 pm. Thence to the Gerald Smith Cemetery. IN MEMORIAM. GOUWS. – Paulina, passed away May 1, 1985. Remembered by Alwin, Nanette and family; her daughter Pauline, Mike and family; her daughter Daphne, Lester and family. LANE. – Allan, passed away tragically May 1, 1975. Missed by Dad, Mom, Keith and Marion. PETERS. – Michael, passed away six years ago today. Remembered by his wife Shariffa, Sharieen and Natalie. PRINSLOO. – Dorothy, born May 1, 1914, passed away April 26, 1987. Missed by Klassie, Joan, Rhonwyn and all family and friends. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 carme@iafrica.com ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/

You live & learn. 7/15! Alan Cole

You live & learn! 7/15. Alan Cole

Hi Listers On the LDS FamilySearch website we have access to Cape Civil Death records up until 1954, although the title says there are records up until 1972. I was wondering where we can get access to subsequent records in particular 1965? Adding on to this question, if access is possible does anyone know how this can be done remotely given I am in the Netherlands? regards Malcolm

6/15 Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Sue Mackay <rhoosesue@yahoo.co.uk> Sender: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 17:20:47 To: EC List<SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-L@rootsweb.com>; ZA-IB List<SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS-BRITISH-L@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: Sue Mackay <rhoosesue@yahoo.co.uk>, south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Try this Quiz For those who have some ancestry in the UK, try this quiz. I'll be very impressed if you get them all right (I only managed 9, and one of those was the right answer but the wrong reason!) but I guarantee you will be interested. http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/law/staff/academic/probert/marriagelawforgenealogists/quiz/ Sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those who have some ancestry in the UK, try this quiz. I'll be very impressed if you get them all right (I only managed 9, and one of those was the right answer but the wrong reason!) but I guarantee you will be interested. http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/law/staff/academic/probert/marriagelawforgenealogists/quiz/ Sue

Hi Alan, I followed the link last night, but for Kimberley and for various years. Ultimately I was quite lucky, but every so often the screen would go blank, and I'd have to back to square 1. When I knew the year and the month - e.g. August, and there were, say, 1500 images, I typed in 900 in the image number. That brought me to approximately August, but I had to keep an eye on the page number of the image so that when the screen stopped responding, then I knew what image (page) to restart with. Once the page stopped responding, I clicked on the original link and went through the process again, and was able to pick up where I left off. Hope this makes sense!! Best wishes, Rose > From: onganda@iway.na > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 13:24:37 +0200 > Subject: [ZA-EC] Death Notices in PE (LDS site) > > Hi Antoinette, Gwyn and others > >e

Hi Antoinette, Gwyn and others It sounds grand, logging on the the LDS website (familysearch.org), and hunting down death notices in various towns for various years, but either you have super-fast internet connections, or Namibia Telecom is particularly slow today! Clearly, one has to already know the date and place of death to start using this material (browsing of individual images only - no search possibilities). For example, my grandfather (William Gray) died on 22 March 1950 in PE, but if I only had the year and not exact date, at about 2 - 10 minutes per image to download, it would take me years to 'view' all 4761 images for PE in 1950! Even when you know the exact date, it is still a hit-or-miss affair to find the image among those thousands (and opening 1950, I found that images 1 and 2 are actually for deaths in March and September 1949! - So be aware that the death notice you are looking for might not even be under the year you expect to find it!) In fact, it seems that some images just never download at all - I have been waiting half an hour for an image to come up, but all I get is a black screen with the white tools (Rotate, zoom, Save, Print etc) on the left side. Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just Namibia Telecom? It cannot be my computer software, as a few images have actually eventually materialised. Thanks Alan

Hi Alan I am in Amsterdam with a super dooper internet connection. LDS website has seemed slower than normal to pull up images; having said that I get an image in around 10 seconds whilst usually it is about 5 seconds Rgds Malcolm -----Original Message----- From: MR ALAN DOUGLAS HATTLE <onganda@iway.na> Sender: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2012 13:24:37 To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] Death Notices in PE (LDS site) Hi Antoinette, Gwyn and others It sounds grand, logging on the the LDS website (familysearch.org), and hunting down death notices in various towns for various years, but either you have super-fast internet connections, or Namibia Telecom is particularly slow today! Clearly, one has to already know the date and place of death to start using this material (browsing of individual images only - no search possibilities). For example, my grandfather (William Gray) died on 22 March 1950 in PE, but if I only had the year and not exact date, at about 2 - 10 minutes per image to download, it would take me years to 'view' all 4761 images for PE in 1950! Even when you know the exact date, it is still a hit-or-miss affair to find the image among those thousands (and opening 1950, I found that images 1 and 2 are actually for deaths in March and September 1949! - So be aware that the death notice you are looking for might not even be under the year you expect to find it!) In fact, it seems that some images just never download at all - I have been waiting half an hour for an image to come up, but all I get is a black screen with the white tools (Rotate, zoom, Save, Print etc) on the left side. Does anyone else have this problem, or is it just Namibia Telecom? It cannot be my computer software, as a few images have actually eventually materialised. Thanks Alan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I contacted fsarch@sacr.fs.gov.za with the reference numbers I was looking for copies of and they sent me a quote. After I deposited the money and sent them the proof of payment, I received the copies very promptly. I may add the costs were minimal and included the postage. The contact person was Donald van Wyk (Principal Archivist). Antoinette -----Original Message----- From: Brian Benningfield [mailto:aurora@netactive.co.za] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:10 PM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] reciprocal lookups Bloemfontein/Cape Town Hi Listers I'm looking for someone prepared to do lookups for me at the Bloemfontein Archives in return for lookups at the Cape Town archives. Please contact me offline. Much appreciated Brian Benningfield Researching: Ben(n)ingfield/Daniel/Eybers/van Tubbergh.

fsarch@sacr.fs.gov.za, they will give a quote based on the files you request (supply reference numbers). Deposit the money, send proof of payment, in a few weeks you should have your copies in the post. Contact person : Donald van Wyk. It worked well for me. Antoinette -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Baxter [mailto:Kevin.Baxter@binzagr.com.sa] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 7:28 AM To: 'south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com' Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] reciprocal lookups Bloemfontein/Cape Town Hi Lynn / Brian - Are there email addresses for either Bloemfontein or Cape Town archives ? Will they do searches from email request ? Regards Kevin -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-eastern-cape-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynn MacLeod Sent: 05 November 2012 20:42 To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] reciprocal lookups Bloemfontein/Cape Town Hi Brian As far as I know you were always able to write to the Bloemfontein archives for a file at no charge - not sure if anything has changed of late, Take care Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Brian Benningfield Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:10 AM To: south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com Subject: [ZA-EC] reciprocal lookups Bloemfontein/Cape Town Hi Listers I'm looking for someone prepared to do lookups for me at the Bloemfontein Archives in return for lookups at the Cape Town archives. Please contact me offline. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message