Linda, Any indication what the costs are? Regards, Colin Mohr Researching the Western Cape Germans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Farrell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > Patty, > > The Van der Mescht NG baptisms are on this image and the next one: > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-24239-12463-57?cc=1392488&wc=M64C-L38:13850901,13850902,13851003,22521201. > If you find hers, you can contact GISA with the Book number (bk no) > and > Page number (bl) and they will help you > > "GISA realised that genealogists who could not visit our offices to do > their research, requires the service of an researcher. GISA do offer this > service themselve now. People who wish to commission research can contact > [email protected]<[email protected]?subject=RE%3A%20Versoek%20vir%20navorsing%20%2F%20Request%20for%20research>with > all the available information they do have and must clearly specify > the information needed. A quote for the service will be provided before > the > research will commence." > > Linda > > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Patty Myers > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Can I access it online? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 10 April 2014 09:41 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore >> >> >> Dear Patty >> >> At GISA in Stellenbosch is an index of Cape DRC baptismals for the period >> 1856-1898. >> >> They also have microfilms of the baptismals registers. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Daniel JacobsDaniel Jacobs</div> >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: "Patty Myers" <[email protected]> >> Sender: [email protected] >> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:41:34 >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: [email protected] >> Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore >> >> My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around >> 1896 and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as >> they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. >> >> I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the >> right direction of where to look. >> >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> Patty >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just to inform those who maybe wanting to visit the Cape Archives that there is no parking in the Archives parking area as Drury Street (entrance to the parking area) is now closed for 6 months due to road works. Cheers Jenn Graham & Jennifer Lloyd [Genealogical & Historical Research] Tel: +0027 (0)21 7974875 Mobile: 0824037343 email: [email protected] www.southafricanfamily.com I'm not stuck, I'm Ancestrally challenged ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES Hi Sybil Yes there are birth records in the Cape Town Archives for the Western Cape, Eastern Cape and Northern Cape BUT you will need to know what magisterial district the birth was registered in as there are over 20 possibilities just in Cape Town itself. In a nutshell: The government office holds the most comprehensive compilation of personal resources for all South Africans. Since the registers of births are closed for a period of a 100 years – the public may then view birth records prior to 1908 which are housed in the various archival repositories. If someone was born in Kimberley – these records would be in the Cape Town Archives. If they were born in Rustenburg then they would be in the Pretoria Archives etc. The index’s available to these records are also housed in the provincial archival repositories. Each province has a reference pertaining to these births: HAWC – Home Affairs Western Cape Eastern Cape Northern Cape Natal Free State Transvaal Registration of births in the Cape begun in 1895, the Transvaal in 1901 and Orange Free State in 1903. You will first need to know exactly which magisterial district the event took place before you can request the index. These indexes are not searchable electronically either except for the Western Cape Index on Ancestry24. The Home Affairs Western Cape Index (HAWC) is housed in the Cape Town Archives as well as the Eastern and Northern Cape. If someone was born in Cape Town you will need to check places like Cape Town Central, Wynberg, Docks, Green Point, See Point, Woodstock, Observatory etc – these are all separate registers. Please note that a CLOSED period of 100 years exists to all Birth records to protect individuals as stipulated by the office of origin. A normal period of closure remains as 20 years for Deaths and Marriages. To find the birth certificate of an individual you will need to first consult the index to the birth in the area in which it was registered i.e. Worcester. The earliest reference number begins with 1/3/57/4/1 –which covers 1895 to June 1905. Once you have got the register 1/3/57/4/1 you will need to look for the dates between 1895 – 1905 for that birth registration. There are two volumes of birth registers that apply for this period being 1/3/57/3/1 to 1/3/57/3/2. The first volume covers January 1895 to June 1899 and the second one June 1899 until January 1905. Depending on the size of the initial index will depend on how many volumes of registers there are for each area. Worcester has 62 Birth registers equalling about 4 years per book until 1933 and then one book per year thereafter. This does not apply to each area. Some of these books are very large, heavy and the pages are difficult to photograph because of the enormity of them. There are on the top floor of the archives and once ordered be prepared for a very long wait. First make sure you get your volume numbers correct before you attempt to order any of these books. The Cape Town Archives is situated in Roeland Street and parking can be difficult – depending on the time of day https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/Roeland+St/@-33.930859,18.4235699,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x1dcc677c24c99003:0x2b9226a0c0a6ef14 Street address: 72 Roeland Street, CAPE TOWN Tel: (021) 466 8100. Fax: (021) 465 2960 regards Heather Heather MacAlister Content Manager South Africa / Consultant Ancestry.com<http://www.ancestry.com/> P 082-8082251 E [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> P. O. Box 455 Clanwilliam, 8135, South Africa From: Sybil Banisterjones <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Friday 11 April 2014 at 10:03 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES Please can someone explain to me where the CT archive building is and whether they have birth registers there, and if so, how does one access them? 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I don't think they will do look-ups as the births are in volumes, not on the computer system (other documents which are recorded on NAAIRS can be requested by e-mail and they will post) so I would imagine you may have to go there in person. Antoinette Saunders -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patty Myers Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 11:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore Her death was 23 Oct 1931, 35 years so that would make her birth year 1896. I would imagine that they were Dutch Reformed. Could one email them and get them to look for the birth record or must I go there personally? -----Original Message----- From: Accounts IBF [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 10 April 2014 09:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore Registration of the birth should be recorded at the Cape Archives so perhaps they could be of assistance with that? My husband found his grandmother's birth record in large handwritten volumes that are kept at the archives. As far as the baptism record goes, do you know what church they would have attended? (presume Dutch Reformed?) Do you know her exact date of birth or can you calculate the approximate date from her date of death? Antoinette Saunders -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patty Myers Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:42 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around 1896 and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the right direction of where to look. Kind regards Patty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, The archives are at 72 Roeland Street (old Roeland Street jail building) - the easiest would be to google for directions. My personal experience only - my husband found his grandmother's birth record in a register (born 1897 in PE and I saw my mother's as well (1923 Cape Town). Prior to 1895 you won't find them because it wasn't required to register births before 1895 in the Cape. You would need lots of time if you don't have the exact year and place of birth as it doesn't seem that the registers cover every single town and some fall under other places. The staff were relatively helpful especially when I said I was trying to find out who my grandfather was as my mother was born out of wedlock. However, as the birth took place less than 100 years ago, they were not permitted to show me the original birth registration which is kept separately to the registers (according to what they told me anyway.) My only option would be to apply to Home Affairs for my mother's original birth certificate. The handwritten registers are kept in a separate room which the public has access to unlike the other records which you must first order from the desk. Antoinette Saunders -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sybil Banisterjones Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 10:04 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE Subject: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES Please can someone explain to me where the CT archive building is and whether they have birth registers there, and if so, how does one access them? Many thanks Sybil ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Linda, I'll have a peek but I think they were Dutch Reformed. She married Miles Walker Capstick in PE and that marriage would probably been in the Anglican Church as my mother was baptised in St Pauls St Barnabas Church. -----Original Message----- From: Linda Farrell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 10 April 2014 11:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore Hi Patty, If there's a chance that they could have belonged to the Anglican church, you can browse through these on familysearch : https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.o rg%2Frecapi%2Fsord%2Fwaypoint%2FMCM6-QNL%3A44975801%2C44975802%2C49789201%3F cc%3D1468076 Linda On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Accounts IBF <[email protected]>wrote: > Registration of the birth should be recorded at the Cape Archives so > perhaps they could be of assistance with that? My husband found his > grandmother's birth record in large handwritten volumes that are kept > at the archives. As far as the baptism record goes, do you know what > church they would have attended? (presume Dutch Reformed?) Do you know > her exact date of birth or can you calculate the approximate date from > her date of death? > > > > Antoinette Saunders > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Patty Myers > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:42 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born > around > 1896 > and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as > they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. > > I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the > right direction of where to look. > > > > Kind regards > > Patty > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message >

Can I access it online? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 10 April 2014 09:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore Dear Patty At GISA in Stellenbosch is an index of Cape DRC baptismals for the period 1856-1898. They also have microfilms of the baptismals registers. Kind regards Daniel JacobsDaniel Jacobs</div> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: "Patty Myers" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:41:34 To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around 1896 and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the right direction of where to look. Kind regards Patty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Her death was 23 Oct 1931, 35 years so that would make her birth year 1896. I would imagine that they were Dutch Reformed. Could one email them and get them to look for the birth record or must I go there personally? -----Original Message----- From: Accounts IBF [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 10 April 2014 09:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Willowmore Registration of the birth should be recorded at the Cape Archives so perhaps they could be of assistance with that? My husband found his grandmother's birth record in large handwritten volumes that are kept at the archives. As far as the baptism record goes, do you know what church they would have attended? (presume Dutch Reformed?) Do you know her exact date of birth or can you calculate the approximate date from her date of death? Antoinette Saunders -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patty Myers Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:42 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around 1896 and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the right direction of where to look. Kind regards Patty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sybil Yes there are birth records in the Cape Town Archives for the Western Cape, Eastern Cape and Northern Cape BUT you will need to know what magisterial district the birth was registered in as there are over 20 possibilities just in Cape Town itself. In a nutshell: The government office holds the most comprehensive compilation of personal resources for all South Africans. Since the registers of births are closed for a period of a 100 years – the public may then view birth records prior to 1908 which are housed in the various archival repositories. If someone was born in Kimberley – these records would be in the Cape Town Archives. If they were born in Rustenburg then they would be in the Pretoria Archives etc. The index’s available to these records are also housed in the provincial archival repositories. Each province has a reference pertaining to these births: HAWC – Home Affairs Western Cape Eastern Cape Northern Cape Natal Free State Transvaal Registration of births in the Cape begun in 1895, the Transvaal in 1901 and Orange Free State in 1903. You will first need to know exactly which magisterial district the event took place before you can request the index. These indexes are not searchable electronically either except for the Western Cape Index on Ancestry24. The Home Affairs Western Cape Index (HAWC) is housed in the Cape Town Archives as well as the Eastern and Northern Cape. If someone was born in Cape Town you will need to check places like Cape Town Central, Wynberg, Docks, Green Point, See Point, Woodstock, Observatory etc – these are all separate registers. Please note that a CLOSED period of 100 years exists to all Birth records to protect individuals as stipulated by the office of origin. A normal period of closure remains as 20 years for Deaths and Marriages. To find the birth certificate of an individual you will need to first consult the index to the birth in the area in which it was registered i.e. Worcester. The earliest reference number begins with 1/3/57/4/1 –which covers 1895 to June 1905. Once you have got the register 1/3/57/4/1 you will need to look for the dates between 1895 – 1905 for that birth registration. There are two volumes of birth registers that apply for this period being 1/3/57/3/1 to 1/3/57/3/2. The first volume covers January 1895 to June 1899 and the second one June 1899 until January 1905. Depending on the size of the initial index will depend on how many volumes of registers there are for each area. Worcester has 62 Birth registers equalling about 4 years per book until 1933 and then one book per year thereafter. This does not apply to each area. Some of these books are very large, heavy and the pages are difficult to photograph because of the enormity of them. There are on the top floor of the archives and once ordered be prepared for a very long wait. First make sure you get your volume numbers correct before you attempt to order any of these books. The Cape Town Archives is situated in Roeland Street and parking can be difficult – depending on the time of day https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/Roeland+St/@-33.930859,18.4235699,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x1dcc677c24c99003:0x2b9226a0c0a6ef14 Street address: 72 Roeland Street, CAPE TOWN Tel: (021) 466 8100. Fax: (021) 465 2960 regards Heather Heather MacAlister Content Manager South Africa / Consultant Ancestry.com<http://www.ancestry.com/> P 082-8082251 E [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> P. O. Box 455 Clanwilliam, 8135, South Africa From: Sybil Banisterjones <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: Friday 11 April 2014 at 10:03 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES Please can someone explain to me where the CT archive building is and whether they have birth registers there, and if so, how does one access them? Many thanks Sybil ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In Roeland street, opp the school Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Sybil Banisterjones <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 10:03:48 To: SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN-CAPE<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [ZA-EC] CAPE TOWN ARCHIVES Please can someone explain to me where the CT archive building is and whether they have birth registers there, and if so, how does one access them? Many thanks Sybil ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please can someone explain to me where the CT archive building is and whether they have birth registers there, and if so, how does one access them? Many thanks Sybil

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Hi Patty, If there's a chance that they could have belonged to the Anglican church, you can browse through these on familysearch : https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecapi%2Fsord%2Fwaypoint%2FMCM6-QNL%3A44975801%2C44975802%2C49789201%3Fcc%3D1468076 Linda On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Accounts IBF <[email protected]>wrote: > Registration of the birth should be recorded at the Cape Archives so > perhaps > they could be of assistance with that? My husband found his grandmother's > birth record in large handwritten volumes that are kept at the archives. As > far as the baptism record goes, do you know what church they would have > attended? (presume Dutch Reformed?) Do you know her exact date of birth or > can you calculate the approximate date from her date of death? > > > > Antoinette Saunders > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patty > Myers > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:42 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore > > My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around > 1896 > and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as they > raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. > > I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the > right > direction of where to look. > > > > Kind regards > > Patty > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi The only information I have is date he was born 1840, died Jan 1840 (aged 0 years) died in infancy and Jane Randall died 21st July 1840. Hope this helps Regards Penny Hobbs -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 10 April 2014 09:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ZA-EC] Hobbs, Benjamin Good Morning All,Could any of the HOBBS researchers let me know if Benjamin HOBBS, infant son of Philip HOBBS and his second wife, Jane RANDALL survived. I only have a not that he was still an infant when his mother passed away.Regards,Rod g Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Penny, Every bit helps Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device -----Original Message----- From: "Property Listing Association" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:42:57 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Hobbs, Benjamin Hi The only information I have is date he was born 1840, died Jan 1840 (aged 0 years) died in infancy and Jane Randall died 21st July 1840. Hope this helps Regards Penny Hobbs -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 10 April 2014 09:10 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ZA-EC] Hobbs, Benjamin Good Morning All,Could any of the HOBBS researchers let me know if Benjamin HOBBS, infant son of Philip HOBBS and his second wife, Jane RANDALL survived. I only have a not that he was still an infant when his mother passed away.Regards,Rod g Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Registration of the birth should be recorded at the Cape Archives so perhaps they could be of assistance with that? My husband found his grandmother's birth record in large handwritten volumes that are kept at the archives. As far as the baptism record goes, do you know what church they would have attended? (presume Dutch Reformed?) Do you know her exact date of birth or can you calculate the approximate date from her date of death? Antoinette Saunders -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patty Myers Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:42 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around 1896 and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the right direction of where to look. Kind regards Patty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Me again,I am stumped with one member of the WESTCOTT family, namely Constance Thelma MEIER nee WESTCOTT b 14.12.1912, second wife of Carl (Karl) Frederich Wilhelm MEIER. I have a note that Constance married again after Karl's death to a Andrew Cornelius WESTCOTT b 21.01.1882, but cannot for the love of me find my source docs. ( I think lost in one of my many moves ) I also have three children she had with Karl, Eunice AnnettaShirley Cynthia Peter HilsonCould any of the WESTCOTT researchers let me know who Constance's parents were and if she indeed married Andrew?Regards,Rod g Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN

Good Morning All,Could any of the HOBBS researchers let me know if Benjamin HOBBS, infant son of Philip HOBBS and his second wife, Jane RANDALL survived. I only have a not that he was still an infant when his mother passed away.Regards,Rod g Sent from MWEB Message Centre - CONNECT AND YOU CAN

My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around 1896 and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the right direction of where to look. Kind regards Patty

Dear Patty At GISA in Stellenbosch is an index of Cape DRC baptismals for the period 1856-1898. They also have microfilms of the baptismals registers. Kind regards Daniel JacobsDaniel Jacobs</div> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: "Patty Myers" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 08:41:34 To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: [ZA-EC] Willowmore My grandmother Maria Magdalena Gertruida van der Mescht was born around 1896 and would imagine in Willowmore as I know her parents lived there as they raised my mother when Maria died in 1931. I am looking for a baptism record for her. Can anyone steer me in the right direction of where to look. Kind regards Patty ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Herald. (Here the new name begins) Monday, November 19, 2001.` BIRTHS. KING. – To Greg and Nately, a daughter born on Thursday, November 15, 2001 at St George’s Hospital. ENGAGEMENTS. DENNIS. – SMITH. Mike and Tracy are pleased to announce their engagement on Sunday, November 11, 2001. VAN ROOY. – MORRIS. Trish and Barry are pleased to announce the engagement of their daughter Susan, to Peter, son of Trudy and Willie. DEATHS. BARNARDO. – Dirk Marthinus, born January 16, 1932, passed away on Tuesday, November 13, 2001. Husband of Merle, and dad of Sean, Vanessa, Pierre, Werner, Berenice, Chantelle and Jennifer and oupa of Justin, Lauren-Leigh and Dylan. BESTER. – Grant Andrew, son of Jess and Andy, brother of Gavin, Barry and Dale, passed away on Wednesday, November 14, 2001. Remembered by Samantha and Jarrod; Barry and Lucille. BLOMERUS. – Cecilia, passed away suddenly. Remembered by her husband Hjalmar and family. BRADFIELD. – Clinton. Remembered by Archie, Judith, Linley, Bruce, David and Christine. BROKENSHAW. – Reg, passed away in Bloemfontein, on Tuesday, November 13, 2001. Missed by Frank, Vanessa, Brian and family. BUITENDAG. – Irma (nee FERREIRA), friend of Lynne for the past 50 years, passed away on Wednesday, November 14, 2001. Remembered by Roy and Lynne CLARK and family. CLEMENTS. – Nellie, passed away on Tuesday, November 13, 2001. Remembered by Dinesh, Delfia, Natalie (CA) and Cindy and Andrew. COETZEE. – Cecil (Kapie). Missed by his family. GELDERBLOEM. – Mary, passed away on Tuesday, November 13, 2001. Missed by Benjamin, Alexis, Dorian, Lindsay, Vivian, Courtney and their families. MEYER. – Klaas, passed away tragically on Sunday, November 11, 2001. Missed by Management and staff of Deluxe Body Works. MOORE. – Eric (Goong), husband of Heather and father of Colleen, Pamela and Russel, passed away on Wednesday, November 14, 2001. TITUS. – David (Senior). Remembered by your wife Venus; Dalene, Cheryl, Carmen, Tertia, Tracy, Delray (DAWSON) and families. TREVORROW. – Dick, husband of Val and step-dad of Shirley, Ronald and Joy passed away. TROLLIP. – Malcolm James, passed away on Monday, November 12, 2001.Remembered by your brother Donald, Vanessa, Chantelle and Richard. VAN ECK. – Othaniel (Amigo), passed away on Saturday, November 10, 2001 Missed by his wife and family. FUNERAL NOTICES. ABRAHAMS. – Basil. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 12 noon from the O.A.C. Saltlake. ARENDS. – Elizabeth. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 1 pm from the Old Apostolic Church, Kleinskool. Thence to Bethelsdorp Cemetery. AVERY. – Harold. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 1 pm from Helenvale Resources Centre. Thence to Paapenkuils Cemetery. BARNARDO. – Dirk Marthinus, born January 16, 1932, passed away on Tuesday, November 13, 2001. Funeral service tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 from the D.R. Dias Church, Boesmansrivier at 10 am. BLOMERUS. – Cecilia. The funeral service will take place today (Friday), November 16, 2001 at 10.30 am from Milnerton House Chapel, First Avenue, Funeral Home, Walmer. BUSACK. – William, aged 51 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 2 pm from The Old Apostolic Church, Helenvale. CLEMENCE. – Nellie, aged 88. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 2 pm from Weiss Memorial Church, Highfield Road, Schauderville. Thence to Paapenkuils Cemetery. COETZEE. – Cecil, aged 46 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 2 pm from Weiss Memorial Church, Highfield Road. DEMAINE. – Anne, aged 29 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 12 noon from the O.A.C. Saltlake. FAALTIN. – Martha, aged 46 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 11 am from the Old Apostolic Church, Helenvale. FELIX. – Lena, aged 51 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 1 pm from the Old Apostolic Church, Greenbushes'. GELDERBLOEM. – Mary Louise, aged 70 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 11 am from St Mark’s and St John’s Anglican Church, van der Kemp Street, Parkside. Thence to Paapenkuils Cemetery. JACOBS. – Jacqueline. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 3 pm from the New Apostolic Church, Fernwood Park. Thence to Bethelsdorp Cemetery. JAMDA. – Eleanor. The funeral service will take place on Sunday, November 18, 2001 at 10 am from Umzazi Topla Church, New Brighton. Thence to Paapenkuils Cemetery. LALLU. – Mary. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 2 pm from the Salvation Army, Central. Thence to Bethelsdorp Cemetery. LEIBRANDT. – Baby. The funeral service will take place today (Friday), November 16, 2001 at 2 pm from The Full Gospel Church, van der Stel Street, Kabega Park. LINKS. – Vuyolwetu. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 10 am from The Resources Centre, Walmer. MBATSHA. – Mzwandile. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 8.30 am from the Old Apostolic Church, Gqebera. Thence to Gqebera Cemetery. MENTE. – Nolitha, aged 28 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 11 am from the D.R. Church, Pendla Street. MOORE. – Eric (Goong). Funeral Service at the Westering Methodist Church, today (Friday), November 16, 2001 at 2 pm. NINGI. – Mbuyisell. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 10 am from 255 Mdala Street, New Brighton. NOUBOS. – Thomas. Funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 12 noon from Kleinskool Crèche. NJOKWENI. - Maggi. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 8 am from Balfour. PLAATJIES. – Sophie. Funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 1 pm from Kleinskool Crèche. Thence to Bethelsdorp Cemetery. SCHOLTZ. – Rodney, aged 24 years. Funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 1 pm from 964 Creelhout Street, Homley, Knysna. STALLS. – Kathleen. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 1 pm from the Old Apostolic Church, Barcelona. SULLIVAN. – Wendell (Mandala), aged 23 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 2 pm from the Church of the Nazarene, Chetty. TITUS. – David John. The memorial service funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 12 noon from the Ebeneaser Church, Whyteleaf Drive, Algoa Park . Thence to Victoria Park Crematorium. TREVORROW. – Dick. The funeral service will take place today (Friday), November 16, 2001 at 2.30 pm from St Saviour's Anglican Church, Walmer. VALENTINE. - Rachel. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 1 pm from 35 Lawler Street, Schauderville. VAN ECK. – Othaniel, aged 74. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 1 pm from the VVK Old DR Church, Highfield Road, Schauderville. Thence to Paapenkuils Cemetery. VERNON. – Hester. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 12 noon from Old Apostolic Church, Barcelona. VIKIVA. – Amanda. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 10 am from Govan Mbeki Sports Centre, Motherwell. VORSTER. – Yvonne. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 1 pm from Pentecostal Holiness, Kroneberg Drive, Ext 21. WARREN. – Martin, age 54. The funeral will take place on Sunday, November 16, 2001 at 2 pm from the Union Congregational Church, Hankey. WILDEMAN. – Paul, aged 70 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 2 pm from W.C.C., Chatty. WILLEMSE. – Petrus, aged 53 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 11 am from St Simon of Cyrene Church, Arend Drive. WILLIAMS. – Felicity, age 23 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 12 noon, from 9 Jooste Street, Gelvandale. ZASAWE. – Jackson, age 72 years. The funeral will take place tomorrow (Saturday), November 17, 2001 at 10 am from the Pentecostal Church, Butterworth. IN MEMORIAM. EDWARDS. – Breffni (Eddie), my husband and Ronald (my only son). Remembered by wife and mother Daphne. GEORGE. – Myrtle. Remembered by Jolene. SMITH. – Eric, passed away November 16, 1997. Remembered by Stephen, Judy, Whitney and Zane; wife Polita and family. STAPLES. – Shirley, passed away 4 years ago today. Love Carol-Anne. Transcribed by Carol BENEKE nee STEWART Port Elizabeth, South Africa. 083 482 1482 [email protected] ________________________ Researching: STEWART, STONE, LUKE, OLIVIER, BENEKE, BENECKE, VON BENECKE and related families. (28 years) https://www.facebook.com/groups/Beneke.Benecke.von.Benecke/