Hi Allan If you go to http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/ there is a 'SEARCH ALL NEWSPAPERS' option down the left hand side of the web page which saves you having to clog up your inbox with "these really informative emails." Regards, Tara -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Allan Isaacs Sent: 07 September 2012 11:26 To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] DOMESTIC NOTICES, THE NATAL WITNESS, JUL 19 - 23, 1923 Hi Tara I've just been asked to trace a family with the surnames Hargreaves, Jurgensen and Logan (some with Army connections) Just about to depart for a weeks holiday, but when I get back I shall look through hundreds of these really informative emails, which I've saved, for matches.. I think there's a smidgin of Southern Rhodesia thrown in for good measure. Cheers Allan -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tara Norton Sent: 07 September 2012 10:09 To: KWAZULU-NATAL-SOUTH-AFRICA@rootsweb.com; south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com; 'south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb.com'(south-africa-eastern-cape@rootsweb. com); OFS List(SOUTH-AFRICA-ORANGE-FREE-STATE@rootsweb.com); BUITENPOSTEN@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] DOMESTIC NOTICES, THE NATAL WITNESS,JUL 19 - 23, 1923 THURSDAY, 19 JULY, 1923 FORSYTH. - At Glenavon, 79 Howick Road, Maritzburg, to Mr. and Mrs. D.G. FORSYTH a daughter. Both well. 2628 DEATHS CRAIG. - Passed peacefully away at Elizabeth District, Vrede, after an illness of four days, Wallace Dalziel CRAIG, late of Estcourt, Natal. 5098 GRIFFIN. - William Henry. Died at his residence on the 14th July, 1923 in his 71st year. 2649 IN MEMORIAM PHILLIPS. - In Loving Memory of our darling Mummy and Daddy, who died at the Cambrian, Dannhauser. You are not forgotten, Nor ever will you be, As long as life and memory last. We will always think of you. Inserted by Gwladys and Myfanny PHILLIPS, late of South Africa. 2629 (Note: Should read 'Gladys'?). IN MEMORIAM ROLL OF HONOUR CORLETT. - In fond and Loving Memory of Private John James CORLETT, 2nd S.A.I., killed in action, Delville Wood, July 19, 1916. Until the day Breaks. Inserted by Mother, Sisters and Brother. FRIDAY, 20 JULY, 1923 BIRTHS FORSYTH. - At Glenavon, 79 Howick Road, Maritzburg, to Mr. and Mrs. D.G. FORSYTH (nee BLAKE) a daughter. Both well. 2628 DEATHS CRAIG. - Passed peacefully away at Elizabeth District, Vrede, after an illness of four days, Wallace Dalziel CRAIG, late of Estcourt, Natal. 5098 GRIFFIN. - William Henry. Died at his residence on the 14th July, 1923 in his 71st year. 2649 IN MEMORIAM CRERAR. - In loving memory of Alexander (Sandy) CRERAR who passed away on the 20th July, 1922. Inserted by his loving Wife, Tom and Lillian. To Memory ever Dear. 2669 POSTNOT. - In loving memory of our dear Sister (Mamie) who passed away 20th July, 1919. Fondly remembered by all at 143, Greyling Street. 2662 POSTNOT. - In loving memory of my dear Sister (Mim.) Mary Ann POSNOT who died July 20th, 1919. Though time may bring its soothing Cheer. And other may forget. To me she'll be for ever dear. In truth I mourn her yet. Inserted by her sorrowing Sister and Brother, Carrie and Willie. 2677 POSNOT. - In loving memory of my dear Wife and Mother, Mary Ann POSNOT, who departed this life on the 20th July, 1919. Just four years ago you left us, How we miss your loving face, But you left us to remember None on earth can fill your place. We do not know the pain she bore, We did not see her die. We only knew we were a few minutes too late To ever say good-bye. Inserted by her loving Husband and Children. 2689 SATURDAY, 21 JULY, 1923 BIRTHS FORSYTH. - At Glenavon, 79 Howick Road, Maritzburg, to Mr. and Mrs. D.G. FORSYTH (nee BLAKE) a daughter. Both well. 2628 JACKSON. - At the Sanatorium, Maritzburg, on the 19th inst. to Mr. and Mrs. Leslie JACKSON, (nee GAGE) a son. 2715 MONDAY, 23 JULY, 1923 BIRTHS CUNNINGHAM. - At Keerom, Byrne, to Mr. and Mrs. E.W. CUNNINGHAM, a son. 2757 SIMPSON. - At Kokstad Hospital, on July 13th, 1923, to Mr and Mrs C H SIMPSON of Government School, Harding, a son. Both well. 2756 DEATHS NIXON. - At Murchison Street, Ladysmith on the 16th July, suddenly, George Eccles, late Sergt. S.A.P., beloved husband of K.M. NIXON. PINSON. - On the 21st July at 151 Pietermaritz Street, Maritzburg, Adelaide Louisa PINSON, widow of Henry PINSON. Aged 89 years. Deeply mourned. TYRRELL. - "Hillside," New Amalfi, East Griqualand on the 17th July, Florence Emily, wife of Lancelot E.N. TYRRELL and niece of the late Peter Davis, "Morningside." 5185 Transcribed by: Tara NORTON (born SHRIVES) taraanorton@gmail.com<mailto:taraanorton@gmail.com> Researching: ATKINSON (ENG), BENECKE, KILLERBY (ENG), (GOLDSMITH-)LESTER (GER/IRE), LOURENS, MARTIN, MILLER, MILLIKEN (IRE), PARKER, SHRIVES (IRE), WALTERS, WINGHAM (ENG) and related families. ________________________________ NCT FORESTRY CO-OPERATIVE LIMITED http://www.nctforest.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us by return email. 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Hi Tara >From the correspondence you look like you might like a good mystery. The South African piece of my mystery is defeating me as I've not found anything to help with the solution as yet. Its like a 100 piece jigsaw with 50 pieces missing. As far as I can tell, two young lads (Percy & Walter) from Todmorden in West Yorkshire had a family catastrophe. Their father John Hargreaves attempted suicide in 1892. Their mother also attempted suicide in December 1893, and succeeded. I think the the two lads must have joined the Army and emigrated to South Africa (or vice versa) but records for these events have so far eluded me. What I do know for sure is Percy Hargreaves married circa 1905 and had 3 children; Hilda Priscilla 1909, Constance (Connie) 1911 and Walter ? Hilda married Ivan Gerwald Jurgensen abt 1927 and this line is OK. Following your advice re the newspaper archive etc I pieced together enough info on the Jurgensens but the Hargreaves remain a mystery. Because of the events in Yorkshire I suspect the two boys didn't reveal much and kept their heads down, as it were, leaving their grandchildren with a black hole in their family history. The family have a large collection of medals which are helping a little. For example "168 TPR P Hargreaves SA Lt Horse; Cape Colony, Tugela Heights, Relief of Ladysmith, Orange Free State, Belfast and South africa 1901". Can you fill in any gaps do you think? There may be lots of descendants out there that might recognise some of the above? Best wishes Allan -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tara Norton Sent: 07 September 2012 10:31 To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] DOMESTIC NOTICES, THE NATAL WITNESS,JUL 19 - 23, 1923 Hi Allan If you go to http://www.eggsa.org/newspapers/ there is a 'SEARCH ALL NEWSPAPERS' option down the left hand side of the web page which saves you having to clog up your inbox with "these really informative emails." Regards, Tara