> Hello Erica > > I found in the book Family Register of the South African Nation by Malherbe > the following entry: > Werner: Johann Jacob (1837) arrived 1878 van Caneau, Rusland married Cath. > Dor. (25) had 6 children as well as Johs (7) and Jacob (5) Bernard born > 17/8/1894 in Vryheid married 31/1/1933 to Zelda BARNETT, Johan Freidr. > > I suggest you search the National Archives website at > www.national.archives.gov.za and see if you can find a death notice for > Johann or his wife. > Below I found two references for a Jacob Werner - remember that you might > find that Johann might not have used his first name but rather his second > name which was quite common practice. Also the date on the naturalization > papers does not mean that was the year in which he entered the country. > Sometimes they were here for many years for they applied. > You can also contact Bruce Werner at Werner, Bruce > E-mail Address(es): > w@yebo.co.za he might just be a relative > > also found this in the NAAIRS database > > DEPOT SAB > SOURCE GG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 2217 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 78/244(18) > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION CELEBRATION OF GOLDEN WEDDING. MR. AND MRS. MINNEMA 1ST > MAY, 1954. > STARTING 19540000 > ENDING 19540000 (this looks like your family as the daughter was > baptised 50 years ago ??) > > DEPOT KAB > SOURCE CO > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 8668 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 22 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION APPLICATION FOR LETTERS OF NATURALIZATION. JACOB > WERNER. > STARTING 1904 > ENDING 1904 > > > > DEPOT TAB > SOURCE MHG > TYPE LEER > VOLUME_NO 0 > SYSTEM 01 > REFERENCE 3428/39 > PART 1 > DESCRIPTION WERNER, JACOB. > STARTING 19390000 > ENDING 19390000 > REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE REBECCA WERNER. (BORN ABRAHAMS). > > kind regards > Heather > > > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List www.genealogy.co.za > Scribes Ink. Publishing - Unlocking the Past with South African Genealogy > Books on CD www.genealogy.co.za/scribes.html > Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/socweb.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erica Hills" <erica@hillsperth.com> > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:06 AM > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] WERNER, MINNEMA > > > > Hi All, > > > > You have encouraged me out of lurkdom Heather. > > > > My grandmother, Rosalia WERNER arrived in Cape Town on the Godeffroy in > > 1877 aged 2 and I would very much like to find the marriages etc. of her > > siblings and possibly trace relatives. The ship entry I have is : > > > > "WERNER, Johann Jacob, farmer (36 years old) from Caneau in Russia, > > with this wife > > Catherina Dorothea (35), and Marie Catherina (15), Amelie (10), Johannes > > (7), Jacob (5) > > Rosalie (2), Johann Friedrich (younger than 1) on the Godeffroy in 1877. > > > > Another son, Christian, was born in South Africa. He is the only one of > > the siblings that I knew. > > > > Rosalie married Jan Geerts MINNEMA around 1894 probably in the German > > Evangelical Lutheran Church where their first child was baptised (is St > > Martin's ? in Long St ? if memories of 50 years ago serve me). > > > > Anna Katharina Caroline Minnema > > Born 23. Februar 1895 > > Bapt 7 April 1895 St Martini Kirche > > Pastor GW Wagener > > > > Johann Minnema und Rosalie geb. Werner > > Sponsors : Konrad Binedell, Karoline Werner, Catharina Schwerdt and > > Christian Werner. > > (Record details from the certificate in her late daughter's possession.) > > > > I used to grill my much older cousin, Anna's daughter, and amongst the > > family lore I gleaned was that they had come out to the Cape on some sort > > of farm settlement scheme and that Rosalie's sisters married brothers > named > > LANGE. I remember visiting some cousins in Rhodesia and Johannesburg as > a > > child but don't remember names. > > > > I would greatly appreciate any help and learning how I can find further > > information; also what methods of payment are accepted. > > > > Best regards........ Erica Hills, Perth, Western Australia > > > > mailto:erica@hillsperth.com > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > > SCRIBES Ink. Publishing > > www.genealogy.co.za - Genealogy Books on CD > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > >

Hi Heather Has the address for Bruce changed? This is what I have. brucew@yebo.co.za Best wishes Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister" <heather@genealogy.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:17 AM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] WERNER, MINNEMA > > > > Hello Erica > > > > I found in the book Family Register of the South African Nation by > Malherbe > > the following entry: > > Werner: Johann Jacob (1837) arrived 1878 van Caneau, Rusland married Cath. > > Dor. (25) had 6 children as well as Johs (7) and Jacob (5) Bernard born > > 17/8/1894 in Vryheid married 31/1/1933 to Zelda BARNETT, Johan Freidr. > > > > I suggest you search the National Archives website at > > www.national.archives.gov.za and see if you can find a death notice for > > Johann or his wife. > > Below I found two references for a Jacob Werner - remember that you might > > find that Johann might not have used his first name but rather his second > > name which was quite common practice. Also the date on the naturalization > > papers does not mean that was the year in which he entered the country. > > Sometimes they were here for many years for they applied. > > You can also contact Bruce Werner at Werner, Bruce > > E-mail Address(es): > > w@yebo.co.za he might just be a relative > > > > also found this in the NAAIRS database > > > > DEPOT SAB > > SOURCE GG > > TYPE LEER > > VOLUME_NO 2217 > > SYSTEM 01 > > REFERENCE 78/244(18) > > PART 1 > > DESCRIPTION CELEBRATION OF GOLDEN WEDDING. MR. AND MRS. MINNEMA > 1ST > > MAY, 1954. > > STARTING 19540000 > > ENDING 19540000 (this looks like your family as the daughter was > > baptised 50 years ago ??) > > > > DEPOT KAB > > SOURCE CO > > TYPE LEER > > VOLUME_NO 8668 > > SYSTEM 01 > > REFERENCE 22 > > PART 1 > > DESCRIPTION APPLICATION FOR LETTERS OF NATURALIZATION. JACOB > > WERNER. > > STARTING 1904 > > ENDING 1904 > > > > > > > > DEPOT TAB > > SOURCE MHG > > TYPE LEER > > VOLUME_NO 0 > > SYSTEM 01 > > REFERENCE 3428/39 > > PART 1 > > DESCRIPTION WERNER, JACOB. > > STARTING 19390000 > > ENDING 19390000 > > REMARKS PREDECEASED SPOUSE REBECCA WERNER. (BORN ABRAHAMS). > > > > kind regards > > Heather > > > > > > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List www.genealogy.co.za > > Scribes Ink. Publishing - Unlocking the Past with South African Genealogy > > Books on CD www.genealogy.co.za/scribes.html > > Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/socweb.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Erica Hills" <erica@hillsperth.com> > > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:06 AM > > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] WERNER, MINNEMA > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > You have encouraged me out of lurkdom Heather. > > > > > > My grandmother, Rosalia WERNER arrived in Cape Town on the Godeffroy in > > > 1877 aged 2 and I would very much like to find the marriages etc. of her > > > siblings and possibly trace relatives. The ship entry I have is : > > > > > > "WERNER, Johann Jacob, farmer (36 years old) from Caneau in Russia, > > > with this wife > > > Catherina Dorothea (35), and Marie Catherina (15), Amelie (10), Johannes > > > (7), Jacob (5) > > > Rosalie (2), Johann Friedrich (younger than 1) on the Godeffroy in 1877. > > > > > > Another son, Christian, was born in South Africa. He is the only one > of > > > the siblings that I knew. > > > > > > Rosalie married Jan Geerts MINNEMA around 1894 probably in the German > > > Evangelical Lutheran Church where their first child was baptised (is St > > > Martin's ? in Long St ? if memories of 50 years ago serve me). > > > > > > Anna Katharina Caroline Minnema > > > Born 23. Februar 1895 > > > Bapt 7 April 1895 St Martini Kirche > > > Pastor GW Wagener > > > > > > Johann Minnema und Rosalie geb. Werner > > > Sponsors : Konrad Binedell, Karoline Werner, Catharina Schwerdt and > > > Christian Werner. > > > (Record details from the certificate in her late daughter's possession.) > > > > > > I used to grill my much older cousin, Anna's daughter, and amongst the > > > family lore I gleaned was that they had come out to the Cape on some > sort > > > of farm settlement scheme and that Rosalie's sisters married brothers > > named > > > LANGE. I remember visiting some cousins in Rhodesia and Johannesburg > as > > a > > > child but don't remember names. > > > > > > I would greatly appreciate any help and learning how I can find further > > > information; also what methods of payment are accepted. > > > > > > Best regards........ Erica Hills, Perth, Western Australia > > > > > > mailto:erica@hillsperth.com > > > > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > > > SCRIBES Ink. 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