Hello Maureen What an interesting story - only last week I came across a list of persons being given "licences" to sell liquor at establishments in the Southern Suburbs - this appeared in the 1870 Government Gazette but I cannot remember which week it was. There is a James Farrell who also appears in Family Register of the South African Nation who arrived in 1820 from Ireland and married on 28/1/1821 to Sara Eilh. Craayenstein van die Kaap in Cape Town. She died on 26/12/1831 aged 52 years 7 months and 29 days. He then married Susanna Louisa HERTZOG in Wynberg on 7/8/1837. then FARRELL, William Joseph Henry born 27/11/1873 in Simonstown son of J.W. Farrell of Kenilworth. He married in 1908 to Maggie daughter of P.T.R. SCHABORT from Pretoria. There are 8 pages of FARRELL in SA Genealogies. hope this helps Heather Heather's South African Genealogy Help List www.genealogy.co.za Scribes Ink. Publishing - Unlocking the Past with South African Genealogy Books on CD www.genealogy.co.za/scribes.html Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/socweb.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Brady" <mbrady@telkomsa.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 8:15 PM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch, FARRELL > Hi Listers > > I've recently uncovered a whole family of FARRELLs who almost all have > "Hotel Proprietor" on their Death Notices, on one of which is noted Randalls > Hotel, Rondebosch, so I presume this may have been the name of their family > hotel > (but not necessarily). Any further info would be greatly appreciated. > > The parents were James FARRELL and Ann (born BRADY). This James seems to be > the same James F listed under the Children's Friend Society in Esme Bull's > book as: > > Farrell, James: apprenticed to DJ van der Merwe, Wellington, absconded > ("Zuid-Afrikaan", 18.11.1842). > > His Death Notice (#873 filed 25 September 1874) doesn't give details about > birthplace or parents but as he died age 45, this 'orphan' status plus his > age are consistent, if he > was about 13 in 1842. He died at his residence in Papendorp (near the mouth > of the Olifants River a few hundred miles north up the West Coast) on 13 > August > 1868. His wife survived him by 29 years. She died in 1897 (DN 3185), which > states she was born in Co Clare, Ireland, but no details of parents are > given. Although she was illiterate (signed James's DN with a cross) she > managed to leave "Landed property and furniture" when she died -- what's > more, the DN clearly states she held this property in her own name. I've > never seen this on a DN before, a note for the Executors of the pre-deceased > testator -- "No property or effects were accumulated in the lifetime of the > late James Farrell. All properties are registered in the name of the > deceased". Not bad for an illiterate Irish lass who probably started from > the lowest of scratch, is it? > > Ann Farrell died at her own home at No 2 -- and this is where the first > problem sets in because the > handwriting on the DN is almost illegible -- Celeplon? Celepton? Elepton? > Street [no suburb given], Cape Town. This name rings no bells in my old CT > head, and the word itself makes no sense. > > ***LATER: got it! after analysing the handwriting against other individual > letter formations on the DN ... > > CLIFTON Street -- but there are FIVE (Roads, not Streets) in CT: Claremont, > Clifton, Mowbray, Muizenberg, Wynberg > > On the father's DN, the children are listed as: > > Anne (must have predeceased her mother or died young) > Margaret > James > ?Mary > John > Ellen > Bridget (predeceased her mother in 1893) > Michael > > On the mother's DN, they are: > > Margarent MACON (later DOYLE) > James > Mary GREEN > John > Ellen VAS > Michael > > For the children, I have found the following three DNs: > > James (#3125) 1901, retired, unmarried, died at Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch > Bridget (#694) 1893, hotel proprietor, unmarried, died at Muizenberg > Michael (#2799) 1912, hotel proprietor, married Henrietta CHRISTIANI (sounds > Italian), died > at 'Kelso', Kenilworth (another interesting clue) > four children, all minors: > Susan Doris > Hilda Ann > Michael Dudley > Horace Stephen > > Also one for Margaret DOYLE who signed her sister Bridget's DN. Margaret > died 1910, possibly abandoned by her still-living spouse, alone in the Old > Somerset Hospital, because her DN seems to be signed by a surgeon. > > There's a coherent family story locked up in these bare facts. References > from street directories, voters rolls, contemporary newspapers anyone might > have access to will be very welcome -- even more so would be discovering > someone with these people in their more immediate tree -- I think we could > usefully trade branches and stories. The FARRELLs may have had close links > with the Eastern Cape. in the 1850s. > > Regards > Maureen Brady > Johannesburg > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Cape Town Family History Society > www.genealogy.co.za/society.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Hi Heather At UPE they have condensed Government Gazettes for 1846 pertaining to liquor licences. I looked through this briefly on my last visit to the library, but didn't make any notes. I'm not very sure about this, but I vaguely recall mention of the Albany district, which of course, would not be applicable to your mailing list as it only deals with Cape Town and the surrounds. However, I can have a look at this again should there be any interest. I cannot promise when this look-up can be done as UPE is very far from home and my visits are limited to twice a month. Best wishes Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister" <heather@genealogy.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch, FARRELL > Hello Maureen > > What an interesting story - only last week I came across a list of persons > being given "licences" to sell liquor at establishments in the Southern > Suburbs - this appeared in the 1870 Government Gazette but I cannot remember > which week it was. > > There is a James Farrell who also appears in Family Register of the South > African Nation who arrived in 1820 from Ireland and married on 28/1/1821 to > Sara Eilh. Craayenstein van die Kaap in Cape Town. She died on 26/12/1831 > aged 52 years 7 months and 29 days. He then married Susanna Louisa HERTZOG > in Wynberg on 7/8/1837. > then > FARRELL, William Joseph Henry born 27/11/1873 in Simonstown son of J.W. > Farrell of Kenilworth. He married in 1908 to Maggie daughter of P.T.R. > SCHABORT from Pretoria. > There are 8 pages of FARRELL in SA Genealogies. > > hope this helps > Heather > > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List www.genealogy.co.za > Scribes Ink. Publishing - Unlocking the Past with South African Genealogy > Books on CD www.genealogy.co.za/scribes.html > Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/socweb.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maureen Brady" <mbrady@telkomsa.net> > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 8:15 PM > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch, FARRELL > > > > Hi Listers > > > > I've recently uncovered a whole family of FARRELLs who almost all have > > "Hotel Proprietor" on their Death Notices, on one of which is noted > Randalls > > Hotel, Rondebosch, so I presume this may have been the name of their > family > > hotel > > (but not necessarily). Any further info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > The parents were James FARRELL and Ann (born BRADY). This James seems to > be > > the same James F listed under the Children's Friend Society in Esme Bull's > > book as: > > > > Farrell, James: apprenticed to DJ van der Merwe, Wellington, absconded > > ("Zuid-Afrikaan", 18.11.1842). > > > > His Death Notice (#873 filed 25 September 1874) doesn't give details about > > birthplace or parents but as he died age 45, this 'orphan' status plus his > > age are consistent, if he > > was about 13 in 1842. He died at his residence in Papendorp (near the > mouth > > of the Olifants River a few hundred miles north up the West Coast) on 13 > > August > > 1868. His wife survived him by 29 years. She died in 1897 (DN 3185), which > > states she was born in Co Clare, Ireland, but no details of parents are > > given. Although she was illiterate (signed James's DN with a cross) she > > managed to leave "Landed property and furniture" when she died -- what's > > more, the DN clearly states she held this property in her own name. I've > > never seen this on a DN before, a note for the Executors of the > pre-deceased > > testator -- "No property or effects were accumulated in the lifetime of > the > > late James Farrell. All properties are registered in the name of the > > deceased". Not bad for an illiterate Irish lass who probably started from > > the lowest of scratch, is it? > > > > Ann Farrell died at her own home at No 2 -- and this is where the first > > problem sets in because the > > handwriting on the DN is almost illegible -- Celeplon? Celepton? Elepton? > > Street [no suburb given], Cape Town. This name rings no bells in my old CT > > head, and the word itself makes no sense. > > > > ***LATER: got it! after analysing the handwriting against other individual > > letter formations on the DN ... > > > > CLIFTON Street -- but there are FIVE (Roads, not Streets) in CT: > Claremont, > > Clifton, Mowbray, Muizenberg, Wynberg > > > > On the father's DN, the children are listed as: > > > > Anne (must have predeceased her mother or died young) > > Margaret > > James > > ?Mary > > John > > Ellen > > Bridget (predeceased her mother in 1893) > > Michael > > > > On the mother's DN, they are: > > > > Margarent MACON (later DOYLE) > > James > > Mary GREEN > > John > > Ellen VAS > > Michael > > > > For the children, I have found the following three DNs: > > > > James (#3125) 1901, retired, unmarried, died at Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch > > Bridget (#694) 1893, hotel proprietor, unmarried, died at Muizenberg > > Michael (#2799) 1912, hotel proprietor, married Henrietta CHRISTIANI > (sounds > > Italian), died > > at 'Kelso', Kenilworth (another interesting clue) > > four children, all minors: > > Susan Doris > > Hilda Ann > > Michael Dudley > > Horace Stephen > > > > Also one for Margaret DOYLE who signed her sister Bridget's DN. Margaret > > died 1910, possibly abandoned by her still-living spouse, alone in the Old > > Somerset Hospital, because her DN seems to be signed by a surgeon. > > > > There's a coherent family story locked up in these bare facts. References > > from street directories, voters rolls, contemporary newspapers anyone > might > > have access to will be very welcome -- even more so would be discovering > > someone with these people in their more immediate tree -- I think we could > > usefully trade branches and stories. The FARRELLs may have had close links > > with the Eastern Cape. in the 1850s. > > > > Regards > > Maureen Brady > > Johannesburg > > > > > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > > Cape Town Family History Society > > www.genealogy.co.za/society.html > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hi Becky I was starting to give up on getting any reply to this enquiry...! I know this List is about CT, but I do have tantalising clues that there may have been close CT-Eastern Cape links between these families. Also, I've just recently read some of a book called "The Cape Parliament" (which has chosen this moment to hide itself!! so I can't give you full details) We cannot divorce the history of Cape Town and the Eastern Cape between 1820 and -- when? -- I can't think of the date when the Cape moved from "responsible government" to "self-government". In fact, I'm sure this close relationship persisted up to the creation of Union in 1910. After the creation of the Cape Legislature, the Eastern Cape representatives had to spend considerable time in Cape Town whenever Parliament was sitting. Therefore, we should not seek to draw artificial boundaries between areas of our research. The Cape Town Archives are, after all, the repository for the entire province. Weird, I didn't get Heather's earlier message via the List at all, but that might have more to do with the teething problems I'm having with a new PC than the List. Thanks, Heather, I have the CRAAYENSTEIN info, didn't know about HERTZOG, though. I've checked the FARRELL pages in SAG, but can't see any of the people I'm looking for, despite having found several related DNs. I think the SAG pedigrees are all unrelated branches, but only time will tell whether any of them connect to mine. What I'd really like is some help in finding the historical location of Randalls Hotel in Rondebosch, also to resolve WHICH Clifton Street it might have been -- I don't have historical maps for that part of Cape Town. Info about liquour licences would also be great, but no pressure, anyone -- it IS the Easter long weekend, after all... Kind regards Maureen Brady Johannesburg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Becky Horne" <beckyjh@telkomsa.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch, FARRELL > Hi Heather > > At UPE they have condensed Government Gazettes for 1846 pertaining to liquor > licences. > > I looked through this briefly on my last visit to the library, but didn't > make any notes. I'm not very sure about this, but I vaguely recall mention > of the Albany district, which of course, would not be applicable to your > mailing list as it only deals with Cape Town and the surrounds. However, I > can have a look at this again should there be any interest. > > I cannot promise when this look-up can be done as UPE is very far from home > and my visits are limited to twice a month. > > Best wishes > Becky > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heather MacAlister" <heather@genealogy.co.za> > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:48 AM > Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch, FARRELL > > > > Hello Maureen > > > > What an interesting story - only last week I came across a list of persons > > being given "licences" to sell liquor at establishments in the Southern > > Suburbs - this appeared in the 1870 Government Gazette but I cannot > remember > > which week it was. > > > > There is a James Farrell who also appears in Family Register of the South > > African Nation who arrived in 1820 from Ireland and married on 28/1/1821 > to > > Sara Eilh. Craayenstein van die Kaap in Cape Town. She died on 26/12/1831 > > aged 52 years 7 months and 29 days. He then married Susanna Louisa > HERTZOG > > in Wynberg on 7/8/1837. > > then > > FARRELL, William Joseph Henry born 27/11/1873 in Simonstown son of J.W. > > Farrell of Kenilworth. He married in 1908 to Maggie daughter of P.T.R. > > SCHABORT from Pretoria. > > There are 8 pages of FARRELL in SA Genealogies. > > > > hope this helps > > Heather > > > > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List www.genealogy.co.za > > Scribes Ink. Publishing - Unlocking the Past with South African Genealog y > > Books on CD www.genealogy.co.za/scribes.html > > Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/socweb.html > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Maureen Brady" <mbrady@telkomsa.net> > > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 8:15 PM > > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch, FARRELL > > > > > > > Hi Listers > > > > > > I've recently uncovered a whole family of FARRELLs who almost all have > > > "Hotel Proprietor" on their Death Notices, on one of which is noted > > Randalls > > > Hotel, Rondebosch, so I presume this may have been the name of their > > family > > > hotel > > > (but not necessarily). Any further info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > The parents were James FARRELL and Ann (born BRADY). This James seems to > > be > > > the same James F listed under the Children's Friend Society in Esme > Bull's > > > book as: > > > > > > Farrell, James: apprenticed to DJ van der Merwe, Wellington, absconded > > > ("Zuid-Afrikaan", 18.11.1842). > > > > > > His Death Notice (#873 filed 25 September 1874) doesn't give details > about > > > birthplace or parents but as he died age 45, this 'orphan' status plus > his > > > age are consistent, if he > > > was about 13 in 1842. He died at his residence in Papendorp (near the > > mouth > > > of the Olifants River a few hundred miles north up the West Coast) on 13 > > > August > > > 1868. His wife survived him by 29 years. She died in 1897 (DN 3185), > which > > > states she was born in Co Clare, Ireland, but no details of parents are > > > given. Although she was illiterate (signed James's DN with a cross) she > > > managed to leave "Landed property and furniture" when she died -- what's > > > more, the DN clearly states she held this property in her own name. I've > > > never seen this on a DN before, a note for the Executors of the > > pre-deceased > > > testator -- "No property or effects were accumulated in the lifetime of > > the > > > late James Farrell. All properties are registered in the name of the > > > deceased". Not bad for an illiterate Irish lass who probably started > from > > > the lowest of scratch, is it? > > > > > > Ann Farrell died at her own home at No 2 -- and this is where the first > > > problem sets in because the > > > handwriting on the DN is almost illegible -- Celeplon? Celepton? > Elepton? > > > Street [no suburb given], Cape Town. This name rings no bells in my old > CT > > > head, and the word itself makes no sense. > > > > > > ***LATER: got it! after analysing the handwriting against other > individual > > > letter formations on the DN ... > > > > > > CLIFTON Street -- but there are FIVE (Roads, not Streets) in CT: > > Claremont, > > > Clifton, Mowbray, Muizenberg, Wynberg > > > > > > On the father's DN, the children are listed as: > > > > > > Anne (must have predeceased her mother or died young) > > > Margaret > > > James > > > ?Mary > > > John > > > Ellen > > > Bridget (predeceased her mother in 1893) > > > Michael > > > > > > On the mother's DN, they are: > > > > > > Margarent MACON (later DOYLE) > > > James > > > Mary GREEN > > > John > > > Ellen VAS > > > Michael > > > > > > For the children, I have found the following three DNs: > > > > > > James (#3125) 1901, retired, unmarried, died at Randalls Hotel, > Rondebosch > > > Bridget (#694) 1893, hotel proprietor, unmarried, died at Muizenberg > > > Michael (#2799) 1912, hotel proprietor, married Henrietta CHRISTIANI > > (sounds > > > Italian), died > > > at 'Kelso', Kenilworth (another interesting clue) > > > four children, all minors: > > > Susan Doris > > > Hilda Ann > > > Michael Dudley > > > Horace Stephen > > > > > > Also one for Margaret DOYLE who signed her sister Bridget's DN. Margaret > > > died 1910, possibly abandoned by her still-living spouse, alone in the > Old > > > Somerset Hospital, because her DN seems to be signed by a surgeon. > > > > > > There's a coherent family story locked up in these bare facts. > References > > > from street directories, voters rolls, contemporary newspapers anyone > > might > > > have access to will be very welcome -- even more so would be discovering > > > someone with these people in their more immediate tree -- I think we > could > > > usefully trade branches and stories. The FARRELLs may have had close > links > > > with the Eastern Cape. in the 1850s. > > > > > > Regards > > > Maureen Brady > > > Johannesburg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > > > Cape Town Family History Society > > > www.genealogy.co.za/society.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List > > www.genealogy.co.za > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hi Maureen Don't have a problem you sending any info to the mailing list as long as it does not become an "1820 settler list" Which Clifton Street are you looking for one in Rondebosch? There is a Clifton Road in Claremont, Clifton Road in Clifton, Clifton Rd in Mowbray (close to Rondebosch), Muizenberg, Tamboerskloof, District Six and Observatory There was a C. Randall living at 42 Fenton Road Salt River in 1900 and E.G. Randall living at Eureka Road Rondebosch. There was also a Dr. A.G.W. Farrell who lived at 1 Reform Rd Rondebosch. Reform Rd is about two hundred metres behind the main road in the vicinity of Westerford High School. Hope this helps kind regards Heather Heather's South African Genealogy Help List www.genealogy.co.za Scribes Ink. Publishing - Unlocking the Past with South African Genealogy Books on CD www.genealogy.co.za/scribes.html Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Brady" <mbrady@telkomsa.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch, FARRELL > Hi Becky > > I was starting to give up on getting any reply to this enquiry...! > > I know this List is about CT, but I do have tantalising clues that there may > have been close CT-Eastern Cape links between these families. Also, I've > just recently read some of a book called "The Cape Parliament" (which has > chosen this moment to hide itself!! so I can't give you full details) > > We cannot divorce the history of Cape Town and the Eastern Cape between 1820 > and -- when? -- I can't think of the date when the Cape moved from > "responsible government" to "self-government". In fact, I'm sure this close > relationship persisted up to the creation of Union in 1910. After the > creation of the Cape Legislature, the Eastern Cape representatives had to > spend considerable time in Cape Town whenever Parliament was sitting. > Therefore, we should not seek to draw artificial boundaries between areas of > our research. The Cape Town Archives are, after all, the repository for the > entire province. > > Weird, I didn't get Heather's earlier message via the List at all, but that > might have more to do with the teething problems I'm having with a new PC > than the List. Thanks, Heather, I have the CRAAYENSTEIN info, didn't know > about HERTZOG, though. I've checked the FARRELL pages in SAG, but can't see > any of the people I'm looking for, despite having found several related DNs. > I think the SAG pedigrees are all unrelated branches, but only time will > tell whether any of them connect to mine. > > What I'd really like is some help in finding the historical location of > Randalls Hotel in Rondebosch, also to resolve WHICH Clifton Street it might > have been -- I don't have historical maps for that part of Cape Town. Info > about liquour licences would also be great, but no pressure, anyone -- it IS > the Easter long weekend, after all... > > Kind regards > Maureen Brady > Johannesburg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Becky Horne" <beckyjh@telkomsa.net> > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch, FARRELL > > > > Hi Heather > > > > At UPE they have condensed Government Gazettes for 1846 pertaining to > liquor > > licences. > > > > I looked through this briefly on my last visit to the library, but didn't > > make any notes. I'm not very sure about this, but I vaguely recall mention > > of the Albany district, which of course, would not be applicable to your > > mailing list as it only deals with Cape Town and the surrounds. However, I > > can have a look at this again should there be any interest. > > > > I cannot promise when this look-up can be done as UPE is very far from > home > > and my visits are limited to twice a month. > > > > Best wishes > > Becky > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Heather MacAlister" <heather@genealogy.co.za> > > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch, FARRELL > > > > > > > Hello Maureen > > > > > > What an interesting story - only last week I came across a list of > persons > > > being given "licences" to sell liquor at establishments in the Southern > > > Suburbs - this appeared in the 1870 Government Gazette but I cannot > > remember > > > which week it was. > > > > > > There is a James Farrell who also appears in Family Register of the > South > > > African Nation who arrived in 1820 from Ireland and married on 28/1/1821 > > to > > > Sara Eilh. Craayenstein van die Kaap in Cape Town. She died on > 26/12/1831 > > > aged 52 years 7 months and 29 days. He then married Susanna Louisa > > HERTZOG > > > in Wynberg on 7/8/1837. > > > then > > > FARRELL, William Joseph Henry born 27/11/1873 in Simonstown son of J.W. > > > Farrell of Kenilworth. He married in 1908 to Maggie daughter of P.T.R. > > > SCHABORT from Pretoria. > > > There are 8 pages of FARRELL in SA Genealogies. > > > > > > hope this helps > > > Heather > > > > > > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List www.genealogy.co.za > > > Scribes Ink. Publishing - Unlocking the Past with South African Genealog > y > > > Books on CD www.genealogy.co.za/scribes.html > > > Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/socweb.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Maureen Brady" <mbrady@telkomsa.net> > > > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 8:15 PM > > > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Randalls Hotel, Rondebosch, FARRELL > > > > > > > > > > Hi Listers > > > > > > > > I've recently uncovered a whole family of FARRELLs who almost all have > > > > "Hotel Proprietor" on their Death Notices, on one of which is noted > > > Randalls > > > > Hotel, Rondebosch, so I presume this may have been the name of their > > > family > > > > hotel > > > > (but not necessarily). Any further info would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > The parents were James FARRELL and Ann (born BRADY). This James seems > to > > > be > > > > the same James F listed under the Children's Friend Society in Esme > > Bull's > > > > book as: > > > > > > > > Farrell, James: apprenticed to DJ van der Merwe, Wellington, absconded > > > > ("Zuid-Afrikaan", 18.11.1842). > > > > > > > > His Death Notice (#873 filed 25 September 1874) doesn't give details > > about > > > > birthplace or parents but as he died age 45, this 'orphan' status plus > > his > > > > age are consistent, if he > > > > was about 13 in 1842. He died at his residence in Papendorp (near the > > > mouth > > > > of the Olifants River a few hundred miles north up the West Coast) on > 13 > > > > August > > > > 1868. His wife survived him by 29 years. She died in 1897 (DN 3185), > > which > > > > states she was born in Co Clare, Ireland, but no details of parents > are > > > > given. Although she was illiterate (signed James's DN with a cross) > she > > > > managed to leave "Landed property and furniture" when she died -- > what's > > > > more, the DN clearly states she held this property in her own name. > I've > > > > never seen this on a DN before, a note for the Executors of the > > > pre-deceased > > > > testator -- "No property or effects were accumulated in the lifetime > of > > > the > > > > late James Farrell. All properties are registered in the name of the > > > > deceased". Not bad for an illiterate Irish lass who probably started > > from > > > > the lowest of scratch, is it? > > > > > > > > Ann Farrell died at her own home at No 2 -- and this is where the > first > > > > problem sets in because the > > > > handwriting on the DN is almost illegible -- Celeplon? Celepton? > > Elepton? > > > > Street [no suburb given], Cape Town. This name rings no bells in my > old > > CT > > > > head, and the word itself makes no sense. > > > > > > > > ***LATER: got it! after analysing the handwriting against other > > individual > > > > letter formations on the DN ... > > > > > > > > CLIFTON Street -- but there are FIVE (Roads, not Streets) in CT: > > > Claremont, > > > > Clifton, Mowbray, Muizenberg, Wynberg > > > > > > > > On the father's DN, the children are listed as: > > > > > > > > Anne (must have predeceased her mother or died young) > > > > Margaret > > > > James > > > > ?Mary > > > > John > > > > Ellen > > > > Bridget (predeceased her mother in 1893) > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > On the mother's DN, they are: > > > > > > > > Margarent MACON (later DOYLE) > > > > James > > > > Mary GREEN > > > > John > > > > Ellen VAS > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > For the children, I have found the following three DNs: > > > > > > > > James (#3125) 1901, retired, unmarried, died at Randalls Hotel, > > Rondebosch > > > > Bridget (#694) 1893, hotel proprietor, unmarried, died at Muizenberg > > > > Michael (#2799) 1912, hotel proprietor, married Henrietta CHRISTIANI > > > (sounds > > > > Italian), died > > > > at 'Kelso', Kenilworth (another interesting clue) > > > > four children, all minors: > > > > Susan Doris > > > > Hilda Ann > > > > Michael Dudley > > > > Horace Stephen > > > > > > > > Also one for Margaret DOYLE who signed her sister Bridget's DN. > Margaret > > > > died 1910, possibly abandoned by her still-living spouse, alone in the > > Old > > > > Somerset Hospital, because her DN seems to be signed by a surgeon. > > > > > > > > There's a coherent family story locked up in these bare facts. > > References > > > > from street directories, voters rolls, contemporary newspapers anyone > > > might > > > > have access to will be very welcome -- even more so would be > discovering > > > > someone with these people in their more immediate tree -- I think we > > could > > > > usefully trade branches and stories. The FARRELLs may have had close > > links > > > > with the Eastern Cape. in the 1850s. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Maureen Brady > > > > Johannesburg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > > > > Cape Town Family History Society > > > > www.genealogy.co.za/society.html > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > > > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List > > > www.genealogy.co.za > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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