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    1. RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] FAMILY NAMES Variations
    2. Foster, Coral A.
    3. Here's my penny's worth...ancestors in Scotland last name PHILP, but before immigrating to SA, decided to anglicize the name by adding another "i" to become PHILIP. German WASSERMEIER to English WATERMEYER First names: (male) FRANCIS to FRANK - my g/father's name & this I only found out this past week! Regards Coral Anna -----Original Message----- From: Elva Hanly [mailto:theaviary@bigpond.com] Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:31 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] FAMILY NAMES Variations Hello to all Listers, Very often we become stuck with a Family Name, sometimes our very own surname, and cannot find references when searching databases, church records and various lists. Many have discovered that for various reasons their surname had changed in spelling or pronunciation over the centuries, sometimes many times. Occasionally we find a baptism entry, marriage entry and death notice for the same person, but the name is recorded quite differently each time. There would be many reasons for this, ie. illiteracy (shock and horror at first but one gets over it), also Dutch, Huguenot and German names changed in spelling and then some names were anglicised. For the experienced genealogist living in South Africa, very often this is no problem. Many overseas listers with roots in SA are also familiar with the variations having lived and grown up there. However, there must be some younger listers who have never lived there and are at a total loss for clues which would help them with searches. Examples: FAMILY NAMES Villion - Viljoen Snyman - Snijman de Klerk - le Clerq NICKNAMES-PETNAMES Johanna - Jannetje Jacob/Jacobus - Japie Then there are instances in names with double letters where one is dropped. eg. Greeff - Greef Some surnames ending with "s" have an "e" added eg. Davids - Davidse, Abrahams/e, Jacobs/e And, one could go on and on............. Perhaps other Listers could contribute by listing just a few examples they have come across when doing their own searches. This will surely help us all when we don't know what else to try. Regards, Elva ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

    08/13/2004 07:32:00
    1. Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] FAMILY NAMES Variations
    2. sharon marshall
    3. And a few of mine: BOUCHER I have found spelt BOWSHER, BOUCHIER, BOURCHIER. TALJAARD: TALLIARD, TALIARD TROLLIP: TROLLOPE, TROLLOP MICHEL: MICHIEL, MICHELS HENDRICKS(E:) HENDRIKS(E), HENDRIKZ(E), HENDRIKSZ(E) HECTOR: HECHTER ROODE: ROOD, RODE, RHODE HARTOGH: HARTOG, HARTOCH Leentje short for Magdalen(a) Ettie short for Henrietta Grieta short for Margaretha Appolonia: Aplonia, Apollonia The list goes on... Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Foster, Coral A." <Coral.Anna.Foster@wwrc.virginia.gov> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 7:32 PM Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] FAMILY NAMES Variations > Here's my penny's worth...ancestors in Scotland last name PHILP, but before immigrating to SA, decided to anglicize the name by adding another "i" to become PHILIP. > > German WASSERMEIER to English WATERMEYER > > First names: (male) FRANCIS to FRANK - my g/father's name & this I only found out this past week! > Regards > Coral Anna > > -----Original Message----- > From: Elva Hanly [mailto:theaviary@bigpond.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 9:31 PM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] FAMILY NAMES Variations > > > Hello to all Listers, > > Very often we become stuck with a Family Name, sometimes our very own > surname, and cannot find references when searching databases, church > records and various lists. > > Many have discovered that for various reasons their surname had changed > in spelling or pronunciation over the centuries, sometimes many times. > Occasionally we find a baptism entry, marriage entry and death notice > for the same person, but the name is recorded quite differently each > time. > > There would be many reasons for this, ie. illiteracy (shock and horror > at first but one gets over it), also Dutch, Huguenot and German names > changed in spelling and then some names were anglicised. > > For the experienced genealogist living in South Africa, very often this > is no problem. Many overseas listers with roots in SA are also familiar > with the variations having lived and grown up there. However, there must > be some younger listers who have never lived there and are at a total > loss for clues which would help them with searches. > Examples: > FAMILY NAMES > Villion - Viljoen > Snyman - Snijman > de Klerk - le Clerq > > NICKNAMES-PETNAMES > Johanna - Jannetje > Jacob/Jacobus - Japie > > Then there are instances in names with double letters where one is > dropped. > eg. Greeff - Greef > Some surnames ending with "s" have an "e" added > eg. Davids - Davidse, Abrahams/e, Jacobs/e > > And, one could go on and on............. > Perhaps other Listers could contribute by listing just a few examples > they have come across when doing their own searches. This will surely > help us all when we don't know what else to try. > > Regards, > > Elva > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Cape Town Family History Society > www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Cape Town Family History Society > www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

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