Let me just put a little "aside" in here - that "story" about the Duke of Bedford is quite probable, as his daughter attended Springfield Convent in Wynberg. So, I am sure her parents would have had domicile in SA too. If they grew oranges - that could be the northern cape area? Anyway, just thought I'd throw that in for you! Coral Anna Mt. Solon VA USA (ex Cape Town) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Cooper [mailto:jennifer@buckspoint.f2s.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:53 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX Hi Sharon and Helen, Thank you for your reply. I certainly do have a problem especially as I have no living South African relatives that I know of to ask. My mother would not talk about her family and I never thought to ask my Grandparents when they were alive. My grandfather did tell my sister he had brothers and there was some mention that they grew oranges! I understand the property was 'next door' to land owned by the Duke of Bedford. I do have my grandmother's identity card number so I don't know if that will be of any help to track her. I think my next step will be to write to South Africa House in London as that is where my grandmother's passport was renewed. I have also subscribed to the www.familytree.co.za and hope I might find some clues there. Many thanks again Kind regards Jennifer Cooper in Milton Keynes UK www.buckspoint.f2s.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Warr" <snw@absamail.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX > Hi Jennifer > Welcome to the list. Unless you know where, or at least in which > denomination your grandparents were married, it is going to be a mission > to find the church entry - that is also assuming that they were married in > this country. They might also have had a civil (or court) wedding - if > that was in the Western Cape, you might find it under the HAWC marriage > files at the Cape Town Archives. It too will be a needle in haystack > search if you don't know more or less when they were married as it is in > date order and not alphabetical order. > Good luck. > Regards > Sharon Warr > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer Cooper" <jennifer@buckspoint.f2s.com> > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:03 PM > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX > > >> Hi to list members. >> >> I have been lurking on this list for a few weeks now and thought it was >> about time I introduced myself. I have in the past put a message on the >> South Africa list without much success and thought that I might try >> again. >> >> I do not have very much information but I am looking for any COX >> descendants that may be around in the Cape Town area. >> >> My grandparents were Ludwig Gerhard COX b. 30th Nov.1898, S.Africa. Died >> 16th Feb.1979, England and Johanna Susarah Hendrika ? b. 1st. April, >> 1898, S Africa. Died 27th Oct. 1971, England. I recently obtained my >> parents marriage certificate which shows my grandfather as Leslie >> COX....(I assume this was anglicised because of the war) occupation >> hairdresser. My mother was Una Johanna Sophia COX b. 27 June 1925. d. >> 30th Oct. 1980. The marriage took place in the Methodist Church Claremont >> and my Grandparent's address was 45, Main Road Claremont in 1944, >> although I always knew it as Main Street, Newlands >> >> My question is where do I go from here? Should I try to get hold of my >> Mother's birth certificate and my grandparents marriage certificate >> although I have no idea when or where they were married, if so, is it >> possible to do so from England? I assume I should contact South Africa >> house in London. >> >> Does anyone remember a gent's hairdresser in Claremont? My grandfather >> would have been there presumably until they came to England in the early >> 60's. My mother's sister, Sally Harper had a cabin cruiser that took >> trips to seal island. I vaguely remember a paper cutting from the Cape >> Argus showing a photo of the Sadlers Wells ballet company taking a trip. >> >> My apologies for the length of this posting but I am clutching at straws. >> I would be grateful for any snippet of information. There are photos of >> my grandparents on my website. Also on this page if anyone is interested >> there is a photograph of the Cape Technical College Cricket Club Team >> 1950 -1951, my Uncle Llewellyn Harper is Vice Captain. >> >> Kind regards >> Jennifer Cooper >> in Milton Keynes UK >> >> http://www.buckspoint.f2s.com/coxpage.htm >> >> >> ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== >> FamilyTree.co.za.......it's the place to hang out and do your Family Tree >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > FamilyTree.co.za.......it's the place to hang out and do your Family Tree > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. 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Hello Coral If the Duke of Bedford grew oranges and they children went to Springfield it sounds like the children were boarders ? Oranges are grown mainly in the Citrusdal and Clanwilliam regions but of course their would be other farms elsewhere. I have a house in Clanwilliam so I know just how big the citrus groves up that part of the world are. The again if they grew up in Claremont - Springfield was just a gallop down the road on Horse and Cart. Checking voters rolls and municipal directories would also be a good start. Any idea what the Duke of Bedford's "real name" was ? kind regards Heather Visit South Africa's premier Genealogy + Family History Web sites : www.familytree.co.za <http://www.familytree.co.za> + www.ancestry.mweb.co.za <http://www.ancestry.mweb.co.za> -----Original Message----- From: Foster, Coral A. [mailto:Coral.Anna.Foster@wwrc.virginia.gov] Sent: 03 March 2005 07:37 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX Let me just put a little "aside" in here - that "story" about the Duke of Bedford is quite probable, as his daughter attended Springfield Convent in Wynberg. So, I am sure her parents would have had domicile in SA too. If they grew oranges - that could be the northern cape area? Anyway, just thought I'd throw that in for you! Coral Anna Mt. Solon VA USA (ex Cape Town) -----Original Message----- From: Jennifer Cooper [mailto:jennifer@buckspoint.f2s.com] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:53 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX Hi Sharon and Helen, Thank you for your reply. I certainly do have a problem especially as I have no living South African relatives that I know of to ask. My mother would not talk about her family and I never thought to ask my Grandparents when they were alive. My grandfather did tell my sister he had brothers and there was some mention that they grew oranges! I understand the property was 'next door' to land owned by the Duke of Bedford. I do have my grandmother's identity card number so I don't know if that will be of any help to track her. I think my next step will be to write to South Africa House in London as that is where my grandmother's passport was renewed. I have also subscribed to the www.familytree.co.za and hope I might find some clues there. Many thanks again Kind regards Jennifer Cooper in Milton Keynes UK www.buckspoint.f2s.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Warr" <snw@absamail.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX > Hi Jennifer > Welcome to the list. Unless you know where, or at least in which > denomination your grandparents were married, it is going to be a mission > to find the church entry - that is also assuming that they were married in > this country. They might also have had a civil (or court) wedding - if > that was in the Western Cape, you might find it under the HAWC marriage > files at the Cape Town Archives. It too will be a needle in haystack > search if you don't know more or less when they were married as it is in > date order and not alphabetical order. > Good luck. > Regards > Sharon Warr > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jennifer Cooper" <jennifer@buckspoint.f2s.com> > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:03 PM > Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX > > >> Hi to list members. >> >> I have been lurking on this list for a few weeks now and thought it was >> about time I introduced myself. I have in the past put a message on the >> South Africa list without much success and thought that I might try >> again. >> >> I do not have very much information but I am looking for any COX >> descendants that may be around in the Cape Town area. >> >> My grandparents were Ludwig Gerhard COX b. 30th Nov.1898, S.Africa. Died >> 16th Feb.1979, England and Johanna Susarah Hendrika ? b. 1st. April, >> 1898, S Africa. Died 27th Oct. 1971, England. I recently obtained my >> parents marriage certificate which shows my grandfather as Leslie >> COX....(I assume this was anglicised because of the war) occupation >> hairdresser. My mother was Una Johanna Sophia COX b. 27 June 1925. d. >> 30th Oct. 1980. The marriage took place in the Methodist Church Claremont >> and my Grandparent's address was 45, Main Road Claremont in 1944, >> although I always knew it as Main Street, Newlands >> >> My question is where do I go from here? Should I try to get hold of my >> Mother's birth certificate and my grandparents marriage certificate >> although I have no idea when or where they were married, if so, is it >> possible to do so from England? I assume I should contact South Africa >> house in London. >> >> Does anyone remember a gent's hairdresser in Claremont? My grandfather >> would have been there presumably until they came to England in the early >> 60's. My mother's sister, Sally Harper had a cabin cruiser that took >> trips to seal island. I vaguely remember a paper cutting from the Cape >> Argus showing a photo of the Sadlers Wells ballet company taking a trip. >> >> My apologies for the length of this posting but I am clutching at straws. >> I would be grateful for any snippet of information. There are photos of >> my grandparents on my website. Also on this page if anyone is interested >> there is a photograph of the Cape Technical College Cricket Club Team >> 1950 -1951, my Uncle Llewellyn Harper is Vice Captain. >> >> Kind regards >> Jennifer Cooper >> in Milton Keynes UK >> >> http://www.buckspoint.f2s.com/coxpage.htm >> >> >> ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== >> FamilyTree.co.za.......it's the place to hang out and do your Family Tree >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > FamilyTree.co.za.......it's the place to hang out and do your Family Tree > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. 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