Hi Mary Yes - a bit of a dilemma but I still think you will get more 'action' through the embassy than trying to do it from this end. There are 91 hits on the Archives database for the surname Eatwell - it might be worth your while to take a look if you have not already done so. The address is http://www.national.archsrch.gov.za/sm300cv/smws/sm300gi?20030327232048F2B0C8C1%26DB%3DKABE Regards Sharon South African Genealogy - Lots of links, passenger lists, Immigrants and more - www.sagenealogy.co.za Scribes Publishing - South African historical resources on CD www.sagenealogy.co.za/scribes.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <maryeatwell@charter.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] SLEIGH Family of Cape Town, South Africa > Hello Sharon, yes applying at an embassy would be alright, but what if it > is out of your reach? I live in Oregon USA and the nearest embassy in 900 > miles south to Los Angles California. I did call them and got a ho-hum, so > I am still stuck with word of mouth about my grandfather. Grandfather > Eatwell left Cape Town 1906, and we have no records. I am hoping to come > in contact with a cousin down there as our last name is very common around > that area. I did get in touch with a lady who was born there and now lives > in UK, through her gracious help, I did get some information, but nothing > yet on our direct lineage, good luck and maybe someday it too will be > online, Mary Eatwell in Pacific NW >> >> From: "Sharon Warr" <snw@absamail.co.za> >> Date: 2006/01/02 Mon AM 02:56:31 EST >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] SLEIGH Family of Cape Town, South >> Africa >> >> Hello Gary and Listers >> Civil Registration of Births and Deaths was not official in the Western >> Cape until 1895 and then it took some time for the law to be enforced. >> Marriage records were kept from 1700 but mostly by churches - there is an >> index of special licence marriages in the Cape Town Archives which might >> reveal something but otherwise unless you know their religious >> affiliation >> it might be difficult to find out more. Likewise birth details prior to >> civil registration are difficult to find unless you know which >> denomination >> religion they were. >> As far as getting records from the Government (The Department of Home >> Affairs) here is concerned - it is not so much a question of the >> Government >> having a 'tight hold on their records' - it is more a question of a >> serious >> problem with service delivery!!!. Because of various factors such as >> staff >> shortages or a complete lack of administrative co-ordination, requests >> for >> certificates often fall through the cracks. It is a source of massive >> frustration not only to researchers but to the ordinary person in the >> street >> applying for identity documents etc. (you only have to look at a recent >> incident where a 20 year old young man held a Home Affairs official >> hostage, >> hoping to get some attention to his problem because he had waited for 2 >> years for an Identity Document resulting in applications for jobs, >> drivers >> licence etc.etc. being turned down. The frustration is shared by >> millions). >> All I can suggest is that your request for certificates should be >> followed >> up regularly and if you are lucky enough to make contact with someone in >> the >> Department, get their names and a direct office number so that you can >> follow up directly with them instead of a nameless, faceless entity. I >> think your best chance would be to apply through a South African Embassy >> if >> you are living outside of South Africa -you will probably get more >> attention >> that way. Good luck! >> Regards >> Sharon Warr >> >> South African Genealogy - Lots of links, passenger lists, Immigrants and >> more - www.sagenealogy.co.za >> Scribes Publishing - South African historical resources on CD >> www.sagenealogy.co.za/scribes.htm >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <maryeatwell@charter.net> >> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] SLEIGH Family of Cape Town, South >> Africa >> >> >> > Hello Gary, good morning and Happy New Year. >> > To start with my experience with trying to do research in SA was a >> > bumpy >> > road to say none the least. My paternal grandfather, Theodore Henry >> > Eatwell, came from Cape Town SA. Well I thought that like everywhere >> > else >> > it wouldn't be that hard, much to my surprise oh my! The government >> > there >> > has a tight hold on their records. I was told I would have to make >> > application through the nearest SA Embassy here. So I put a request on >> > a >> > 'free geneaology board' here and a lady, who is a researcher and who >> > was >> > born there, anwered. She helped me a great deal, but if you want those >> > certificates, that's different. You will have to hire a professional >> > researcher at $20.00 US dollars an hour. But if you know the church >> > that >> > maybe your ancestor was baptized, you may apply direct for a copy. So >> > do >> > let me know how you do, and I will help on this end if I can. Happy >> > Holiday Mary Eatwell in the Pacific NW USA >> >> >> >> From: valdennis@optusnet.com.au >> >> Date: 2006/01/01 Sun AM 06:32:25 EST >> >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] SLEIGH Family of Cape Town, South >> >> Africa >> >> >> >> Happy New Year to all subscribers. >> >> I am researching the Sleigh Family who lived in South Africa in the >> >> 1800's. >> >> My Great Grandmother was Johanna Catherine Sleigh born 8 Nov 1883 in >> >> Cape >> >> Town. She married William Dutfield in 1904 then later moved to >> >> Australia. >> >> Johanna's parents were Francis Sleigh and Susan ? and her four >> >> siblings >> >> were Daniel, Francis, Caroline and Susan(nah)? >> >> Could some one please let me know how to locate official birth, death >> >> and >> >> marriage records within South Africa. >> >> Would love to hear from anyone researching this family. >> >> Regards, Garry Dennis, Sydney, Australia. >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== >> >> South African Passenger Lists, Genealogy links, CDs and books >> >> www.sagenealogy.co.za >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and >> >> the >> >> areas they lived. 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Hi All, Happy New Year. I don't know if the snippet of info I'm about to impart is still relevant. Five years ago when applying from overseas for a birth certificate we were informed that applications would only be handled if the applications was done in South Africa - over the counter.......No postal applications accepted. The only way to get certificates from overseas would be to apply through the Embassies. I have since then stuck to this......the last certificate for I applied for took 6 months to arrive.......so be patient. An application form for births/deaths & marriages can be downloaded from the Department of Home Affairs site. http://home-affairs.pwv.gov.za/forms asp?topic. Another thing to keep in mind you usually have to supply most of the details you'll be searching for "details such as name, surname, date of birth, death or marriage, ID number, and so forth, should be provided." For Garry in Australia the embassy is in Canberra (1700kms from where I live) The longest post has taken to get there from me is only 3 days. Canberra contact address: Corner State Circle and Rhodes Place Yarralumla ACT 2600 Tel: (02) 6273 2424, 6273 2425, 6273 2426, 6273 2427 Fax: (02) 6273 3543 Email: info@sahc.org.au Web: www.sahc.org.au NB!!! If you phone: Consular Hours: Monday - Friday: 8.30 a.m. - 1.00 p.m. Cheers Lynn in Sunny Queensland (not as hot as Sydney this year) -------Original Message------- From: Sharon Warr Date: 01/03/06 05:50:11 To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] SLEIGH Family of Cape Town, South Africa Hi Mary Yes - a bit of a dilemma but I still think you will get more 'action' through the embassy than trying to do it from this end. There are 91 hits on the Archives database for the surname Eatwell - it might be worth your while to take a look if you have not already done so. The address is http://www.national.archsrch.gov za/sm300cv/smws/sm300gi?20030327232048F2B0C8C1%26DB%3DKABE Regards Sharon South African Genealogy - Lots of links, passenger lists, Immigrants and more - www.sagenealogy.co.za Scribes Publishing - South African historical resources on CD www.sagenealogy.co.za/scribes.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <maryeatwell@charter.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] SLEIGH Family of Cape Town, South Africa > Hello Sharon, yes applying at an embassy would be alright, but what if it > is out of your reach? I live in Oregon USA and the nearest embassy in 900 > miles south to Los Angles California. I did call them and got a ho-hum, so > I am still stuck with word of mouth about my grandfather. Grandfather > Eatwell left Cape Town 1906, and we have no records. I am hoping to come > in contact with a cousin down there as our last name is very common around > that area. I did get in touch with a lady who was born there and now lives > in UK, through her gracious help, I did get some information, but nothing > yet on our direct lineage, good luck and maybe someday it too will be > online, Mary Eatwell in Pacific NW >> >> From: "Sharon Warr" <snw@absamail.co.za> >> Date: 2006/01/02 Mon AM 02:56:31 EST >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] SLEIGH Family of Cape Town, South >> Africa >> >> Hello Gary and Listers >> Civil Registration of Births and Deaths was not official in the Western >> Cape until 1895 and then it took some time for the law to be enforced. >> Marriage records were kept from 1700 but mostly by churches - there is an >> index of special licence marriages in the Cape Town Archives which might >> reveal something but otherwise unless you know their religious >> affiliation >> it might be difficult to find out more. Likewise birth details prior to >> civil registration are difficult to find unless you know which >> denomination >> religion they were. >> As far as getting records from the Government (The Department of Home >> Affairs) here is concerned - it is not so much a question of the >> Government >> having a 'tight hold on their records' - it is more a question of a >> serious >> problem with service delivery!!!. Because of various factors such as >> staff >> shortages or a complete lack of administrative co-ordination, requests >> for >> certificates often fall through the cracks. It is a source of massive >> frustration not only to researchers but to the ordinary person in the >> street >> applying for identity documents etc. (you only have to look at a recent >> incident where a 20 year old young man held a Home Affairs official >> hostage, >> hoping to get some attention to his problem because he had waited for 2 >> years for an Identity Document resulting in applications for jobs, >> drivers >> licence etc.etc. being turned down. The frustration is shared by >> millions). >> All I can suggest is that your request for certificates should be >> followed >> up regularly and if you are lucky enough to make contact with someone in >> the >> Department, get their names and a direct office number so that you can >> follow up directly with them instead of a nameless, faceless entity. I >> think your best chance would be to apply through a South African Embassy >> if >> you are living outside of South Africa -you will probably get more >> attention >> that way. Good luck! >> Regards >> Sharon Warr >> >> South African Genealogy - Lots of links, passenger lists, Immigrants and >> more - www.sagenealogy.co.za >> Scribes Publishing - South African historical resources on CD >> www.sagenealogy.co.za/scribes.htm >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <maryeatwell@charter.net> >> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 6:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] SLEIGH Family of Cape Town, South >> Africa >> >> >> > Hello Gary, good morning and Happy New Year. >> > To start with my experience with trying to do research in SA was a >> > bumpy >> > road to say none the least. My paternal grandfather, Theodore Henry >> > Eatwell, came from Cape Town SA. Well I thought that like everywhere >> > else >> > it wouldn't be that hard, much to my surprise oh my! The government >> > there >> > has a tight hold on their records. I was told I would have to make >> > application through the nearest SA Embassy here. So I put a request on >> > a >> > 'free geneaology board' here and a lady, who is a researcher and who >> > was >> > born there, anwered. She helped me a great deal, but if you want those >> > certificates, that's different. You will have to hire a professional >> > researcher at $20.00 US dollars an hour. But if you know the church >> > that >> > maybe your ancestor was baptized, you may apply direct for a copy. So >> > do >> > let me know how you do, and I will help on this end if I can. Happy >> > Holiday Mary Eatwell in the Pacific NW USA >> >> >> >> From: valdennis@optusnet.com.au >> >> Date: 2006/01/01 Sun AM 06:32:25 EST >> >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] SLEIGH Family of Cape Town, South >> >> Africa >> >> >> >> Happy New Year to all subscribers. >> >> I am researching the Sleigh Family who lived in South Africa in the >> >> 1800's. >> >> My Great Grandmother was Johanna Catherine Sleigh born 8 Nov 1883 in >> >> Cape >> >> Town. She married William Dutfield in 1904 then later moved to >> >> Australia. >> >> Johanna's parents were Francis Sleigh and Susan ? and her four >> >> siblings >> >> were Daniel, Francis, Caroline and Susan(nah)? >> >> Could some one please let me know how to locate official birth, death >> >> and >> >> marriage records within South Africa. >> >> Would love to hear from anyone researching this family. >> >> Regards, Garry Dennis, Sydney, Australia. >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== >> >> South African Passenger Lists, Genealogy links, CDs and books >> >> www.sagenealogy.co.za >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and >> >> the >> >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> > >> > >> > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== >> > South African Passenger Lists, Genealogy links, CDs and books >> > www.sagenealogy.co.za >> > >> > ============================== >> > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== >> South African Passenger Lists, Genealogy links, CDs and books >> www.sagenealogy.co.za >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > South African Passenger Lists, Genealogy links, CDs and books > www.sagenealogy.co.za > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== South African Passenger Lists, Genealogy links, CDs and books www.sagenealogy.co.za ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx