Hi Listers, I have just re-checked my sources and I find that Frederick OWEN died in 1949 in Transvaal. Still don't know exactly where - should I put this message in a mailing list that would be a better cover for that area? If so, what is it, please? Also, I may have said I wanted people to contact me off-line with any info - of course I meant off-list. Sorry about that. Julie H.