Hello Ivy Very interesting.....I have one of Theals History of the Cape which mentions a chap which is said to be the Real Robinson Crusoe who actually came to the Cape - unfortunately cannot remember which volume it was in but will try and look it up. Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Site Manager www.ancestry.mweb.co.za www.familytree.co.za Learning on Line 46 Hof Street Gardens 8001 Tel: 021-481 8316 -----Original Message----- From: Ivy Trott [mailto:ivytrott@telkomsa.net] Sent: 20 May 2005 12:58 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member Elva, have you ever come across anything about a Dr. Brandt who was said to be shipwrecked from 'an East Indiaman' off Algoa Bay or Delagoa Bay. Supposed to have walked to Cape Town, accompanied by a dog and a monkey (baboon, maybe) and there was taken in by Farquharson, who was the Naval Agent. Farquharson died and he was then taken in my Dr. James Grant, who in his turn turned him over to Lt. James Grant who took him aboard the Lady Nelson. Lady Nelson was in Simonstown and Cape Town for three months in 1800. The original shipwreck was supposed to be seven years earlier. Brandt went with Grant to Australia, where he stayed. I've never found a shipwreck which fitted the scenario. The dog and the monkey went to Australia, too. Lt. Grant mentioned Dr. Brandt in his Ship's Log, and there is some reference to him in Australian archives, very briefly. I've always thought he sounded quite a character, and I and Australian friends have tried without success to find out more about him. He is said to have also worked at one of the healing waters spas in the Boland.... Go well, Ivy Trott. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elva Hanly" <theaviary@bigpond.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 5:29 AM Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member > Hi Karen, > > What an interesting story! Shipwrecks and Salvage in South Africa by > Malcolm Turner has 15 wrecks listed from 1830-1833 but none appear to be > French. If you want a list of these please contact me off list. > > There was in 1829 L'Eole, a French ship on a voyage from Calcutta and > Reunion, 12 men including the captain drowned. Then there was L'Aigle, a > French whaler wrecked in 1834 at Slangkop where 3 men drowned. Later in > 1840 La Lise was wrecked in Struis Bay while on a voyage from Mauritius to > Bordeaux with 20 men drowned. > > I will have to do some more reading. Perhaps someone else could be of help > here. > > Regards, > > Elva > Qld, Australia > >> From: "Heather MacAlister - LearningOnline" >> <Heather@learningonline.co.za> >> Date: 19 May 2005 2:52:38 PM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member >> >> >> Hello Karen >> >> The records you are looking for will be held in the Cape Government >> Gazettes which are housed in the Cape Town Archives. >> >> These newspapers list the weekly intelligence shipping lists. >> >> www.familytree.co.za have done certain lists between the years of 1840 >> and 1855 adding all the time. >> >> Some times passengers were mentioned but not always - generally only 1st >> class and 2nd class - the rest was just mentioned as a number. Eg and 25 >> passengers. >> >> There is a wonderful book on Shipwrecks off the Southern Coast of Africa >> but I am full of flu and I cannot remember the name but can see it in >> front of me - it is on my wish list of books. >> >> Although there were hundreds of shipwrecks only the more notable ones >> are mentioned in the book. >> >> My ancestors arrived because they were shipwrecked and I am also looking >> for that illusive missing ship and her passengers >> >> >> Kind regards >> >> >> Heather MacAlister >> Site Manager >> www.ancestry.mweb.co.za >> www.familytree.co.za >> >> >> Learning on Line >> 46 Hof Street >> Gardens >> 8001 >> >> Tel: 021-481 8316 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Karen Reynolds [mailto:kamp4@optusnet.com.au] >> Sent: 18 May 2005 10:42 PM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Fw: New Member >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Karen Reynolds >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L-request@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:32 PM >> Subject: New Member >> >> >> Hello All, >> I am from the lovely South West area of Western Australia. >> I am looking for information on James Abraham Mathew Moulton or Abraham >> Mathew Moulton. >> I have the following partial letter and was wondering where do I go from >> here? >> Where would I find more information. Is there a shipping list for >> departing ships and shipwrecks, or a business register? The following >> happened about 1830-1833. >> Abraham's letter reads, "I began business as a horse dealer and after a >> few years I acquired a sufficiency to become an importer of horses, >> mules and sheep etc to a considerable amount yearly. >> My last voyage to "The Cape of Good Hope" cleared me a net profit of >> seven hundred and fifty pounds and the whole operation was concluded in >> four months. >> I then realized all my property and found I was worth between five to >> six thousand pounds Stirling. Which I laid out in Sugar, tea and spices >> and shipped the whole lot aboard a French ship bound for Bourduex, bid >> adieu to a host of friends and set sail a happy man, full of hopes for >> the future". >> The letter goes on and then... >> "Eighteen days after I had not a shirt to my sunburnt back, nought of >> bread to eat. >> All was swolled up by the relentless ocean or strewn the whole >> unfrequented shores of Southern Africa. The ship lost and nine of my >> unfortunate passenger served as "pate" to the forocious animals and >> Africa.I and several others found ourselves on an almost unknown coast >> in danger every minute do being devoured by wild beast, neither food nor >> clothing and several hundred miles from and human inhabitants. >> Courage did not forsake us. At daylight we began our journey to the Cape >> of Good Hope. We were incessantly harassed by the caffers and in danger >> of being murdered. Dying with hunger, continually harassed by savages >> our comrades dropping down through exhaustion we travelled about 700 >> miles and were fortunate enough to meet a missionary who protected us >> from the natives, fed us for a few days and they sent us on about 100 >> miles more till we arrived at the kraal of a Dutch Boer, who received us >> with astonishment and kindness. From here we were conveyed to Cape Town >> in wagons. From house to house, like paupers in England. On our arrival >> in Cape Town we were treated with the utmost humanity by the >> inhabitants, the theatre gave two nights performonces for our benefit >> and we were soon clothed and well fed. But then the past came fresh on >> my mind, meeting with an acquaintance whose ship was proceeding to the >> Isle De France, I determined to accept a passage that he was so kind to >> of! >> fer" >> Here he leaves and returns to Bournon. >> Strangely enough in later years 1846 he was murdered by his Mascar >> crewman at sea. >> Thank you for taking the time to read my story and I would be grateful >> for any information, help and direction that I could get >> Thanks again >> Karen > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > www.sagenealogy.co.za - passenger lists, genealogy links,CDs and books > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. 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