PS: (1) A.P.M. LONGMORE 1841-1921 is buried in the East Bank cemetery in East London, together with his son C. C. LONGMORE 11 Mar 1885 - 1 May 1935. See photo of their joint gravestone at http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=636647 (2) Some years ago Ellen Stanton posted a LONGMORE marriage at East London in 1916, from LDS Microfilm #1864497 (East London Marriages). I'd have thought this was the C.C. above except for the different second initial. Entry #2 Husband: Charles John LONGMORE Wife: Maria Louisa SMITH Date: 1/8/1916 [i,e, 8 January: American date convention] I'd guess my godfather was the son of either C.C. LONGMORE or C.J. LONGMORE above, if they don't turn out in fact to be the same man. Geoff On 16 May 2010 19:05, Maurice Sheppard <[email protected]> wrote: > Two quick responses - thank you! > > David & Mary Bossenger: > > Yes, I believe that is more than possible. This is handwritten scrawl on > Alexander's military record and the William is abbreviated to Wm. So Alice > THOMAS it most likely is! > > On Marie's marriage certificate in 1871, she states that her father was > Alexander Michael LONGMORE - painter (deceased), yet I have never found any > other reference to him other than as plain Alexander. I've also never found > a death entry for him although Marie's mother re-married in 1854. But when > it comes to PAGET, this is too much of a coincidence as the grandmother of > Alexander who married Alice was a Hannah PAGETT! So that sounds good - thank > you. > > Geoff: > > None of the known Alexanders in this family were born in 1909 or > thereabouts, but the name could well have been given to one of Alexander and > Alice's grandsons. > > Regards, > > Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages > http://www.msheppard.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Chew" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:54 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] LONGMORE / THOMAS-KING > > > My godfather in East London was an Alec LONGMORE, close friend of my > father and I suppose more or less his contemporary (my father was born > in 1909). I don't know whether he is from the same family, though the > name may not be coincidental, and I may be able to find more details > about him if you need them (including photos). > > On 16 May 2010 17:44, David and Mary Bossenger <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> Are you sure it isn't Alice THOMAS at Kingwilliamstown? >> There is also a ref in the National archives as follows: >> "DEPOT VAB (Free State Archives) >> SOURCE MHG (Master of the High Court) >> TYPE LEER (File) >> VOLUME_NO 0 >> SYSTEM 01 >> REFERENCE L1944 >> PART 1 >> DESCRIPTION LONGMORE, ALEXANDER MICHAEL PAGET. EGGENOTE (Spouse) >> ALICE KATE LONGMORE. >> STARTING 19210000 ENDING 19210000 " >> I have added the necessary English translation in brackets. >> Perhaps some kind soul will do the look up for you in Bloemfontein. It >> will >> be a record of the estate (probate) and with luck will contain a deat >> notice >> with family deails >> >> Born in Bilston (Staffordshire) in 1841, he joined the 20th Regiment of >> Foot >> (later absorbed into the Lancashire Fusiliers) in 1860, which included a >> tour of duty in South Africa. Whilst there, on 23rd April 1871 at >> Williamstown, he married Alice THOMAS-KING (bn circa 1853 in Natal). -- Geoff Chew [email protected]
Hi Geoff, Thanks for that brilliant picture. I've just being doing a bit of double-checking of the 1881 Census image. In 1881 the son's name is given as Charles Francis LONGMORE, 1 year old, which ties in with the 1879 birth date I have for him. There is no death registered in England & Wales. So we possibly have a death en route or in South Africa or simply two children with the forename Charles. Intriguing! For the time being I'll add him to my database as a fourth son. About five years ago I retired to Crete which unfortunately does not have any LDS facilities. Once again, Many thanks, Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geoff Chew" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:54 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] LONGMORE / THOMAS-KING PS: (1) A.P.M. LONGMORE 1841-1921 is buried in the East Bank cemetery in East London, together with his son C. C. LONGMORE 11 Mar 1885 - 1 May 1935. See photo of their joint gravestone at http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=636647 (2) Some years ago Ellen Stanton posted a LONGMORE marriage at East London in 1916, from LDS Microfilm #1864497 (East London Marriages). I'd have thought this was the C.C. above except for the different second initial. Entry #2 Husband: Charles John LONGMORE Wife: Maria Louisa SMITH Date: 1/8/1916 [i,e, 8 January: American date convention] I'd guess my godfather was the son of either C.C. LONGMORE or C.J. LONGMORE above, if they don't turn out in fact to be the same man. Geoff On 16 May 2010 19:05, Maurice Sheppard <[email protected]> wrote: > Two quick responses - thank you! > > David & Mary Bossenger: > > Yes, I believe that is more than possible. This is handwritten scrawl on > Alexander's military record and the William is abbreviated to Wm. So Alice > THOMAS it most likely is! > > On Marie's marriage certificate in 1871, she states that her father was > Alexander Michael LONGMORE - painter (deceased), yet I have never found > any > other reference to him other than as plain Alexander. I've also never > found > a death entry for him although Marie's mother re-married in 1854. But when > it comes to PAGET, this is too much of a coincidence as the grandmother of > Alexander who married Alice was a Hannah PAGETT! So that sounds good - > thank > you. > > Geoff: > > None of the known Alexanders in this family were born in 1909 or > thereabouts, but the name could well have been given to one of Alexander > and > Alice's grandsons. > > Regards, > > Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages > http://www.msheppard.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Geoff Chew" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 7:54 PM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] LONGMORE / THOMAS-KING > > > My godfather in East London was an Alec LONGMORE, close friend of my > father and I suppose more or less his contemporary (my father was born > in 1909). I don't know whether he is from the same family, though the > name may not be coincidental, and I may be able to find more details > about him if you need them (including photos). > > On 16 May 2010 17:44, David and Mary Bossenger <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> Are you sure it isn't Alice THOMAS at Kingwilliamstown? >> There is also a ref in the National archives as follows: >> "DEPOT VAB (Free State Archives) >> SOURCE MHG (Master of the High Court) >> TYPE LEER (File) >> VOLUME_NO 0 >> SYSTEM 01 >> REFERENCE L1944 >> PART 1 >> DESCRIPTION LONGMORE, ALEXANDER MICHAEL PAGET. EGGENOTE (Spouse) >> ALICE KATE LONGMORE. >> STARTING 19210000 ENDING 19210000 " >> I have added the necessary English translation in brackets. >> Perhaps some kind soul will do the look up for you in Bloemfontein. It >> will >> be a record of the estate (probate) and with luck will contain a deat >> notice >> with family deails >> >> Born in Bilston (Staffordshire) in 1841, he joined the 20th Regiment of >> Foot >> (later absorbed into the Lancashire Fusiliers) in 1860, which included a >> tour of duty in South Africa. Whilst there, on 23rd April 1871 at >> Williamstown, he married Alice THOMAS-KING (bn circa 1853 in Natal). -- Geoff Chew [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message