Can you help me I`am looking for any information on John Francis George, he arrived in Cape Province some time during 1905 and 1915. He came from Wales Neath born 1866 he died in South Africa. [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 06 June 2010 02:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Digest, Vol 5, Issue 128 Today's Topics: 1. Re: SAG look-up please (Carol Beneke) 2. Re: SAG look-up please (Lynn) 3. Re: SAG look-up please (Carol Beneke) 4. Re: Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) (Maurice Sheppard) 5. Re: Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) (Kevin Baxter) 6. Re: Norwegian Barque Stella (Neville Rasmussen) 7. Re: Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) (Maurice Sheppard) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:04:01 +0200 From: "Carol Beneke" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] SAG look-up please To: <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Morning all Is there anyone that can do a look-up on SAG S for me please. Stewart George b 1848 Surrey, England, married Lucy Stewart d.o. David Stewart and Harriet. Also a Frederick Thomas Stone born c1829, I assume England. Please contact me off list. Thanking you in advance. Carol Beneke (nee Stewart) __________________________________________________________________ Researching: Stewart, Stone, Luke, Beneke and related families. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:51:49 +1000 From: "Lynn" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] SAG look-up please To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Hi Carol, I have had a quick look at the "Free BDM" website for UK and can't really trace this family. The best I have come up with is:- A George Henry STEWART born Lambeth September quarter 1848. No Stewart GEORGE's come up in that period in Surrey. In June qtr. 1879 I found a George STEWART married in Potterspury, on the borders of Buckinghamshiere & Northanptonshire - he possibly married a Lucy RADCLIFFE I found a David James STEWART who married in Cambridge in the March qtr 1843 - his wife was possibly Harriet REEVES Anothe David STEWART married in Hartley Wintney in the December qtr 1848 and his wife was possibly Harriet HIBBARD I cant find any birth of a Lucy Stewart that seems to match your family! Hope this hasn't confused you. Regards Lynn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Beneke" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] SAG look-up please > Morning all > > Is there anyone that can do a look-up on SAG S for me please. > > Stewart George b 1848 Surrey, England, married Lucy Stewart > d.o. David Stewart and Harriet. > > Also a Frederick Thomas Stone born c1829, I assume England. > > Please contact me off list. > > Thanking you in advance. > Carol Beneke (nee Stewart) > __________________________________________________________________ > Researching: Stewart, Stone, Luke, Beneke and related families. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2234 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:05:53 +0200 From: "Carol Beneke" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] SAG look-up please To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Lynn Thanks ever so much for the help. > Another David STEWART married in Hartley Wintney in the December qtr 1848 > and his wife was possibly Harriet HIBBARD This is definitely one of the families I'm looking for. It was their daughter that married George STEWART in South Africa The George I'm looking for had parents Thomas STEWART and Ann POULTER (POLTER) I also believe he could have been born in 1843. Have a good day Carol Beneke (nee Stewart) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:27:15 +0300 From: "Maurice Sheppard" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Hi Kevin, I have access to the passenger lists ex UK 1890-1960. Plenty of BAXTERs leaving for South Africa between 1890 and 1897. Can you give me some forenames and dates of birth please? Regards, Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Baxter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) > Paul- > > I am also searching for my family -- BAXTER -- emigrating from Kent but > they left from England to SA (East London and Port Elizabeth) in 1890-1897 > . The ship lists are very difficult to find (unlike 1820-1830 settlers) . > I have not come across 'The Shepherdess" . > Have found : "Tartar" , "Dunottar Castle" , "Mexican" and a few others > but the information is either sketchy/missing or dates out of line . > > I am still 'googling' every and any idea/name/option/possibility . > Sorry I can't help . > > Regards > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul le > Roux > Sent: 05 June 2010 22:23 > To: SOUTH- AFRICA; SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN CaAPE-TOWN; > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN- CAPE; SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS- BRITISH > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) > > Dear All, > > Knowing how notoriously difficult it is to trace passenger lists to South > Africa, I am still going to try my luck and ask whether anyone has > possibly got the passenger list for the Shepherdess which sailed from > England (some southern port in all likelihood as the people I am > researching hailed from Kent) to Algoa Bay, South Africa. The year was > 1858. > > Thanking you in anticipation > Paul le Roux > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:51:37 +0300 From: "Kevin Baxter" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Maurice I have two Baxters : 1) FREDERICK WILLIAM --- b 31-12-1857 (Bromley , forest Town , Kent) , would have sailed +/- 1875-1885 2) SAMUEL --- b 1-6-1873 (Bromley , Kent) , would have sailed 1893-1896 As far as I know they were both single when they traveled --- not confirmed . They would have sailed into East London (most likely) or Port Elizabeth Many thanks for your help Regards Kevin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maurice Sheppard Sent: 06 June 2010 13:27 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) Hi Kevin, I have access to the passenger lists ex UK 1890-1960. Plenty of BAXTERs leaving for South Africa between 1890 and 1897. Can you give me some forenames and dates of birth please? Regards, Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Baxter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) > Paul- > > I am also searching for my family -- BAXTER -- emigrating from Kent but > they left from England to SA (East London and Port Elizabeth) in 1890-1897 > . The ship lists are very difficult to find (unlike 1820-1830 settlers) . > I have not come across 'The Shepherdess" . > Have found : "Tartar" , "Dunottar Castle" , "Mexican" and a few others > but the information is either sketchy/missing or dates out of line . > > I am still 'googling' every and any idea/name/option/possibility . > Sorry I can't help . > > Regards > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul le > Roux > Sent: 05 June 2010 22:23 > To: SOUTH- AFRICA; SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN CaAPE-TOWN; > SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN- CAPE; SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS- BRITISH > Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) > > Dear All, > > Knowing how notoriously difficult it is to trace passenger lists to South > Africa, I am still going to try my luck and ask whether anyone has > possibly got the passenger list for the Shepherdess which sailed from > England (some southern port in all likelihood as the people I am > researching hailed from Kent) to Algoa Bay, South Africa. The year was > 1858. > > Thanking you in anticipation > Paul le Roux > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:54:40 +0200 From: "Neville Rasmussen" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Norwegian Barque Stella To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Does anybody have any info or know where I can find some on the sailing barque the Stella, of I think Norwegian registry which sank in a storm off Algoa Bay in the 1800's some time. She was carrying a load of timber out of Boston harbour USA. My Great Grandfather, Omund Rasmussen, was one of the ships crew and I am attempting to confirm this and the year that the ship went down. Neville ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 15:29:17 +0300 From: "Maurice Sheppard" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi Kevin, Here's what there is in the original 1890-1897 timeframe that you have given me. Sorry, but I don't have anything prior to 1890. Mr. F.W.BAXTER - date of birth unknown - sailed Southampton to Cape Town on board ss Tartar departed 1 February 1896. He was single and APPEARS to have been travelling alone, but on the same vessel, same sailing, we also have....... Mr. S. BAXTER - aged 22, occupation draper, English nationality, and single - sailed Southampton to East London on board ss Tartar departed 1 February 1896 (Steerage). The only other male BAXTERs in this same timeframe are:- Mr. BAXTER - no initials, forenames or date of birth, but of Scottish nationality - sailed Southampton to Natal on board ss Mexican departed 25 July 1890. He was single and appears to have been travelling alone. No other information available Mr. BAXTER - no initials, forenames or date of birth, but of English nationality - sailed Southmpton to Cape Town on borad ss Mexican departed 19 August 1893. He was married and was travelling with a Miss BAXTER. No other information available. The second one looks hopeful and if you'd like me to send the passenger manifest image offlist, I will happily do so. (It will be quite a large file). I tried to find Samuel on the 1891 Census, but the nearest match I can find is a 20 year old commercial traveller boarding in Leicester but born in Beckenham. Perhaps you know better! Regards, Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages http://www.msheppard.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Baxter" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) > Hi Maurice > > I have two Baxters : > 1) FREDERICK WILLIAM --- b 31-12-1857 (Bromley , forest Town , Kent) , > would have sailed +/- 1875-1885 > 2) SAMUEL --- b 1-6-1873 (Bromley , Kent) , would have sailed > 1893-1896 > > As far as I know they were both single when they traveled --- not > confirmed . > They would have sailed into East London (most likely) or Port Elizabeth > > Many thanks for your help > Regards > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Maurice Sheppard > Sent: 06 June 2010 13:27 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) > > Hi Kevin, > > I have access to the passenger lists ex UK 1890-1960. Plenty of BAXTERs > leaving for South Africa between 1890 and 1897. Can you give me some > forenames and dates of birth please? > > Regards, > > Maurice Sheppard at The LONGMORE Pages > http://www.msheppard.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Baxter" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:48 AM > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) > > >> Paul- >> >> I am also searching for my family -- BAXTER -- emigrating from Kent > but >> they left from England to SA (East London and Port Elizabeth) in > 1890-1897 >> . The ship lists are very difficult to find (unlike 1820-1830 > settlers) . >> I have not come across 'The Shepherdess" . >> Have found : "Tartar" , "Dunottar Castle" , "Mexican" and a few > others >> but the information is either sketchy/missing or dates out of line . >> >> I am still 'googling' every and any idea/name/option/possibility . >> Sorry I can't help . >> >> Regards >> Kevin >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul > le >> Roux >> Sent: 05 June 2010 22:23 >> To: SOUTH- AFRICA; SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN CaAPE-TOWN; >> SOUTH-AFRICA-EASTERN- CAPE; SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS- BRITISH >> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Passenger list: Shepherdess (1858) >> >> Dear All, >> >> Knowing how notoriously difficult it is to trace passenger lists to > South >> Africa, I am still going to try my luck and ask whether anyone has >> possibly got the passenger list for the Shepherdess which sailed from >> England (some southern port in all likelihood as the people I am >> researching hailed from Kent) to Algoa Bay, South Africa. The year was > >> 1858. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation >> Paul le Roux >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. 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