In the early 20th century, my grandfather, James Walsh, jumped ship in Table Bay. On 31 March 1901, he was part of the crew of the Jane McColl off the Welsh coast. The master was his father the well-known Thomas “Lanigan” Walsh of Wexford. He married my grandmother in Cape Town in 1905. Between these two dates, he arrived in Cape Town. Does anyone have any knowledge of the incident in Table Bay which would point me to the name of the ship on which he travelled? He was almost certainly part of the crew. Thank you Kevin Whyte

Hi Glyn Unfortunately the Archives are the only people who have these documents. You can either email them directly or I can give you details of a private researcher? Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager Ancestry24 5th Floor, 11 Adderley Street Cape Town 8001 http://.ancestry24.com Skype: ancestry24 Tel: 021-4064343 Fax: 086-5810390 On 29 Sep 2012, at 21:55, "Brenda & Glyn" <bgmurrell@telkomsa.net> wrote: > Hi Heather, > Would you be able to provide us with the archive documentation references > for the following: > DATA COLLECTIONS > > Van Graan, Gladys Ida > Death Records > > Cape Town Deceased Estates Index > > Regards, > Glyn Murrell > (researching Moore and Trueman) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This email and its contents are subject to an email legal notice that can be viewed at: http://www.naspers.com/email/disclaimer.html Should you be unable to access the link provided, please email us for a copy at csc@optinet.net Hierdie e-pos en sy inhoud is onderhewig aan 'n regskennisgewing oor elektroniese pos wat gelees kan word by http://www.naspers.com/epos/vrywaring.html 'n Afskrif kan aangevra word by csc@optinet.net

Hi Glynn These records are only available in the Cape Town Archives or through a private researcher or if you live in Cape Town you could go there or ask a friend. Western Cape Provincial Archives and Records Service The Head Postal address: Private Bag X9025, CAPE TOWN 8000 Street address: 72 Roeland Street, CAPE TOWN Tel: (021) 466 8100. Fax: (021) 465 2960 E-mail: Readroom@pgwc.gov.za (Reading Room Enquiries) Private researcher Graham Lloyd lacey@yebo.co.za Regards Heather Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E heather@ancestry24.co.za T +27 (021) 406 4343 F +27 (0)86 5810390 skype.com/ancestry24 5th Floor, 11 on Adderley Street, Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8001 | ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brenda & Glyn Sent: 29 September 2012 09:45 PM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Archive references Hi Heather, Would you be able to provide us with the archive documentation references for the following: DATA COLLECTIONS Van Graan, Gladys Ida Death Records Cape Town Deceased Estates Index Regards, Glyn Murrell (researching Moore and Trueman) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5799 - Release Date: 09/29/12 This email and its contents are subject to an email legal notice that can be viewed at: http://www.naspers.com/email/disclaimer.html Should you be unable to access the link provided, please email us for a copy at csc@optinet.net Hierdie e-pos en sy inhoud is onderhewig aan 'n regskennisgewing oor elektroniese pos wat gelees kan word by http://www.naspers.com/epos/vrywaring.html 'n Afskrif kan aangevra word by csc@optinet.net

Hi Heather, Would you be able to provide us with the archive documentation references for the following: DATA COLLECTIONS Van Graan, Gladys Ida Death Records Cape Town Deceased Estates Index Regards, Glyn Murrell (researching Moore and Trueman)

Hi All Pics of St Hugh’s C.O.P., now on the web. Eastern Cape, PORT ELIZABETH, Newton Park, St Hugh's C.O.P. Anglican church, memorial wall http://www.eggsa.org/library/main.php?g2_itemId=2068121 Regards Carol

One couple of my ancestors are John Marshall and Jane Campbell. John Marshall was born in Totnes, Devon, UK on June 9 1777 and married Jane Campbell in Calcutta, East India on March 24 1808. At that time John Marshall was commander of H.C. ship Diana. Later two of his daughters married in South Africa 1. Wednesday 8 August 1832 MARRIED on the 7th August by Special Licence, at the Reformed Church by the Rev George Hough, Senior Colonial Chaplain, Henry Francis DUMERGUE Esq of the Madras Civil Service to Anna Jane, youngest daughter of John MARSHALL Esq, President of the Government Bank. 2. MARRIAGE In the English Church Rondebosch on Wednesday 30th September 1835 by the Rev George Hough MA, Senior Colonial Chaplain: SB VENNING Esq to Miss Emma Jane MARSHAL MARRIED on Wednesday 30th Sept, S.B. VENNING Esq of Cape Town to Emma Jane, eldest daughter of John MARSHALL Esq, President of the Lombard and Discount Banks. -- My questions Can anyone find a death or probate record for John Marshall or his wife Jane Campbell in South Africa? Does anyone know more about the career of John Marshall as President of the Lombard and Discount bank/Government Bank? Thanks in advance. Ralph Ravestijn

Hi John I found this in one of my books: John Metcalf born Leeds 2.1.1813 died at Matjesdrif, Caledon 2.2.1847 son of David Metcalf en Sarah Blackburn and grandchild of John Metcalf and Mary Farrer married Jane COLLISON widow of Smirthwaite and John Bell bl David, boer Jagersbos, Caledon, emigrated back to England in 1892 b2 Sarah emigrated back to England best wishes Heather' Heather MacAlister Channel Manager E  heather@ancestry24.co.za T  +27 (021) 406 4343 F +27 (0)86 5810390   Join us on Facebook  twitter.com/ancestry24  | Skype: ancestry24 7th Floor , 11  Adderley Street, Cape Town, 8000  |  ancestry24.co.za -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Huthwaite Sent: 25 September 2012 05:39 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Metcalf Family Hello I am researching the following family: Jane COLLISON (1804 - abt 1862) who m John BELL1824 Leeds UK, then m Thomas SMIRTHWAITE 1836 Leeds and finally m John METCALF 1838 in Leeds. The two Johns were wool dyers in Leeds. John and Jane METCALF are thought to have travelled to SA (Cape Town?) soon after 1838 and may have been accompanied by some of Jane's 5 daughters by John BELL but it is known that at least one didn't travel or returned to the UK (Caroline Bell 1832-1914, my g g grandmother) If anyone is able to shed light on this family in South Africa (or elsewhere) or offer help/advice it would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards John Huthwaite Nr Sevenoaks UK ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This email and its contents are subject to an email legal notice that can be viewed at: http://www.naspers.com/email/disclaimer.html Should you be unable to access the link provided, please email us for a copy at csc@optinet.net Hierdie e-pos en sy inhoud is onderhewig aan 'n regskennisgewing oor elektroniese pos wat gelees kan word by http://www.naspers.com/epos/vrywaring.html 'n Afskrif kan aangevra word by csc@optinet.net

Hello I am researching the following family: Jane COLLISON (1804 - abt 1862) who m John BELL1824 Leeds UK, then m Thomas SMIRTHWAITE 1836 Leeds and finally m John METCALF 1838 in Leeds. The two Johns were wool dyers in Leeds. John and Jane METCALF are thought to have travelled to SA (Cape Town?) soon after 1838 and may have been accompanied by some of Jane's 5 daughters by John BELL but it is known that at least one didn't travel or returned to the UK (Caroline Bell 1832-1914, my g g grandmother) If anyone is able to shed light on this family in South Africa (or elsewhere) or offer help/advice it would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards John Huthwaite Nr Sevenoaks UK

Hello I am researching the following family: Jane COLLISON (1804 - abt 1862) who m John BELL1824 Leeds UK, then m Thomas SMIRTHWAITE 1836 Leeds and finally m John METCALF 1838 in Leeds. The two Johns were wool dyers in Leeds. John and Jane METCALF are thought to have travelled to SA (Cape Town?) soon after 1838 and may have been accompanied by some of Jane's 5 daughters by John BELL but it is known that at least one didn't travel or returned to the UK (Caroline Bell 1832-1914, my g g grandmother) If anyone is able to shed light on this family in South Africa (or elsewhere) or offer help/advice it would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards John Huthwaite Nr Sevenoaks UK

Dear Listers I believe the Louis GOLDSCHMIDT below to be my 3rd grandfather as I've been given a copy of the register of baptisms solemnized at St. Peter's Church, East London indicating that Louis was a constable when his first child, Susanna Jane, was born on 19/12/1858 as well as when his seventh child, my 2nd great grandfather, Henry Charles, was born on 08/04/1870. I believe the sponsors - William, Jane & Eliza GAFFNEY - to be the siblings/family of my 3rd great grandmother, Jane GAFFNEY, who were aboard 'The Vocalist' in Jan 1859 per Esme BULL's book 'Aided Immigration from Britain to South Africa 1857 - 1867'. Louis married Jane soon after she disembarked The Lady Kennaway. Does anyone have access to the below-mentioned book who could possibly do a look-up for me please? Gentlemen of the Law of EC - Maclear, Barkly East, Cathcart & Queenstown, Seymour, Graaf Reinet, Cradock Part 6 of book by George Randell for look-ups: CATHCART & QUEENSTOWN LAW PEOPLE: Louis GOLDSCHMIDT Nathan GOLDSCHMIDT Kind regards, Tara (born SHRIVES) taraanorton@gmail.com ________________________________ NCT FORESTRY CO-OPERATIVE LIMITED http://www.nctforest.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us by return email. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by Eset Mail Security for the presence of computer viruses. http://www.eset.com ________________________________

Hi All Not sure if i sent to right place last week so here goes again. I am looking for any info on John William Anderson who came to South africa as a young man from England. He married in cape town in 1885 (Eliza Maria Hillman from St Helena) and he was born in 1867 in Skirlaught, County of Cork, England so if anyone knows how to search passenger lists or something I would be most greatful. Kind regards Carol

Good day Looking for information on Hendrik Jacobus Smith who married Frances Elizabeth Long. They had 10 Children four of whom I have been able to find details of their christenings in the Wynberg methodist parish records. Any information on the parents of Hendrik or the christenings of his other children would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards Warren Smith

Could someone kindly check when and how jw came to south africa. He was born in skirlaugh,cork england 3 nov 1867 and married eliza maria hillman from st helena at st mark's cape town on 8 feb 1885. I would love to know when he arrived and with what ship if possible. Many salaams carol

Thank you Trisha - much appreciated... Regards Dianne -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trisha McLeod Sent: 23 September 2012 09:00 AM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] CHAMPION Hi Dianne There is a Champion family tree on Genealogy.com which includes your Richard. Regards Trish ----- Original Message ----- From: DI - DD KITS <dianne@dbnmail.co.za> To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:02 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] CHAMPION Hello Listers, Has anyone been tracing the CHAMPION name? Richard Benjamin CHAMPION of Caledon was married in approx. 1830 to ? His children were Edward CHAMPION & Henry Benjamin & .        Richard  Benjamin CHAMPION -a wagon-builder by trade married Lucy? In approx. 1853 in Caledon? Does anyone have anymore details about Lucy's parentage or details about the background of the Champions? Thank you in anticipation.. Regards Dianne Butcher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 9/9/2012 9:00 AM, south-africa-cape-town-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Carrie sent the following reply re Sarah Jane Berry. I have now learnt that she lived in Bootle and, together with 2 sisters, was working in the match factory there. Carrie, can you remember the name of the Factory? Regards, Walter > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Thomas Kydd GREIG (husband) Sarah Jane BERRY (wife) > (Wally And Elrine Greig) > 2. Re: Thomas Kydd GREIG (husband) Sarah JaneBERRY (wife) (laing) > 3. Re: Thomas Kydd GREIG (husband) SarahJaneBERRY (wife) (laing) > 4. Re: Thomas Kydd GREIG (husband) Sarah JaneBERRY (wife) (Richard) > 5. Re: Thomas Kydd GREIG (husband) Sarah Jane BERRY (wife) > (Heather MacAlister) > > > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 17:13:39 +0100 > From: "laing" <laings4@blueyonder.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Thomas Kydd GREIG (husband) > Sarah JaneBERRY (wife) > To: <south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <20120908161414.QCSO26256.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-1.server.virginmedia.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Walter > > Had a quick look on Ancestry.co.uk for you and didn't find any births for > Thomas Kydd Greig. I only found a birth for Thomas King Greig in 1879 in > Marylebone, London - but he died in 1931 in London - so definitely not your > ancestor if he emigrated to SA. > > There are a lot of entries for Sarah Jane Berry from all over the UK. The > Lion Match factory is interesting, as before WW2 there was a match factory > not far down the road from us in Bootle, Liverpool. It was pulled down and > now has a block of flats on the site with a monument to the match works. > There is a birth for a Sarah Jane Berry in West Derby (Liverpool) in Sept > 1884. But not 100% sure there isn't much to go on. > > Regards > Carrie > > >

Thanks David - will do. -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David and Mary Bossenger Sent: 23 September 2012 08:16 AM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] ] CHAMPION Hi Dianne, Try the Rector Holy Trinity, at the Rectory, Box 612, Caledon, 7230. They have records from 1849/50. Regards, David Bossenger Has anyone been tracing the CHAMPION name? Richard Benjamin CHAMPION of Caledon was married in approx. 1830 to ? His children were Edward CHAMPION & Henry Benjamin & . Richard Benjamin CHAMPION -a wagon-builder by trade married Lucy? In approx. 1853 in Caledon? Does anyone have anymore details about Lucy's parentage or details about the background of the Champions? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dianne, Try the Rector Holy Trinity, at the Rectory, Box 612, Caledon, 7230. They have records from 1849/50. Regards, David Bossenger Has anyone been tracing the CHAMPION name? Richard Benjamin CHAMPION of Caledon was married in approx. 1830 to ? His children were Edward CHAMPION & Henry Benjamin & . Richard Benjamin CHAMPION -a wagon-builder by trade married Lucy? In approx. 1853 in Caledon? Does anyone have anymore details about Lucy's parentage or details about the background of the Champions?

Hello Listers, Has anyone been tracing the CHAMPION name? Richard Benjamin CHAMPION of Caledon was married in approx. 1830 to ? His children were Edward CHAMPION & Henry Benjamin & . Richard Benjamin CHAMPION -a wagon-builder by trade married Lucy? In approx. 1853 in Caledon? Does anyone have anymore details about Lucy's parentage or details about the background of the Champions? Thank you in anticipation.. Regards Dianne Butcher

Hi Dianne There is a Champion family tree on Genealogy.com which includes your Richard. Regards Trish ----- Original Message ----- From: DI - DD KITS <dianne@dbnmail.co.za> To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:02 AM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] CHAMPION Hello Listers, Has anyone been tracing the CHAMPION name? Richard Benjamin CHAMPION of Caledon was married in approx. 1830 to ? His children were Edward CHAMPION & Henry Benjamin & .        Richard  Benjamin CHAMPION -a wagon-builder by trade married Lucy? In approx. 1853 in Caledon? Does anyone have anymore details about Lucy's parentage or details about the background of the Champions? Thank you in anticipation.. Regards Dianne Butcher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Trisha Thanks so much for your reply - yes she did but she after she got a judicial separation (we have the documents) she obviously changed her surname and the two boys born out of this marriage namely Edwin Langford and Lewis Woodward (both Baptised Coomber) back to Ashley. Both boys death certificates state surname Ashley. On my Grandfathers death certificate it states Parents: Jane Maria Ashley (born Shearer) Widow. Penny Hobbs (Ashley)   -----Original Message----- From: south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:south-africa-cape-town-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Trisha McLeod Sent: 21 September 2012 06:38 PM To: south-africa-cape-town@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Jane Maria Woodward Ashley Hi Penny Appears she remarried in 1895 DEPOT TAB SOURCE SP TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 76 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE SPR7800/95 PART 1 DESCRIPTION SPECIALE LANDDROST JOHANNESBURG HARRY COOMBER WEDUWENAAR EN JANE ASHLEY WEDUWE VRAGEN CONSENT TOT HERTROUWEN. STARTING 18951023 ENDING 18951023 DEPOT KAB SOURCE CSC TYPE LEER VOLUME_NO 2/1/1/433 SYSTEM 01 REFERENCE 320 PART 1 DESCRIPTION ILLIQUID CASE. JANE MARIA WOODWARD COOMBER, BORN SHEARER, VERSUS HARRY COOMBER. ACTION FOR THE DISSOLUTION OF THE BONDS OF MARRIAGE. STARTING 19030000 ENDING 19030000 ----- Original Message ----- From: Property Listing Association <proplist@iafrica.com> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 3:57 PM Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN] Jane Maria Woodward Ashley I wonder if anyone out there could help me (or point me in the right direction) with regards to the following: I am trying to find either a Death Notice or Estate Papers for my Great Grandmother Jane Maria Woodward Ashley (maiden name Shearer )born 12 March 1859 in Cape Town. As I live in East London my only avenue of searching is via the Internet which I have been doing for simply ages (NAAIRS, Ancestry24, Ancestry.co.za and just about every other site I can find), but have to date been unable to find any information as to when or where she died.  Our Grandfather (Edwin Langford Ashley) died in 1928 in Pretoria and she is listed on his Death Notice as parent.  She was about 69 years old at the time he died.  We presume she died somewhere between 1928 and 1958 as her other son (Lewis Woodward Ashley) Death Notice states parents deceased. Both these sons resided in the Pretoria at the time of their death.  We have tried Pretoria but have had no luck. I have been told we need to search for Estate Papers for her but the frustrating thing is that we have no dates to go on and do not know if she was still living in Pretoria when my Grandfather died or had gone back to Cape Town where her other children and all her immediate family lived.  I don't know if anyone can assist me but any advice as to what avenue I should take to try and find this elusive Great Grandmother of ours would be greatly appreciated.  Penny Hobbs (nee Ashley) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message