Hello Ann Marie Around the time of the 1881 census was the tail end of the 2nd Industrial Revolution these were some of the aspects which changed peoples lives and made them immigrate. a.. the growth of cities and other population shifts b.. working conditions for men, women or children c.. changing role of women d.. impact of inventions on life e.. living conditions in the cities and in the countryside f.. health and sanitation g.. education h.. housing i.. income and wealth accumulation j.. role of labour unions k.. changes in family life l.. transportation m.. leisure Bearing in mind the largest number of people immigrated to South Africa ever at one time was between 1856 and 1873 when 22, 332 immigrants came from England.Most of them came to work on the expanding harbours and extensive railways systems. From 1870 onwards emigration to the colony peaked following the discovery of gold and diamonds. Some settlers sailed from Liverpool to South Africa Between 1830 and 1930 over nine million emigrants sailed from Liverpool bound for a new life in the New World of the United States, Canada and Australia and South Africa. For much of this period Liverpool was by far the most important port of departure for emigrants from Europe largely because by 1830, she already had well established trans-Atlantic links essentially in the import of cotton and timber. Liverpool was also well placed to receive the many emigrants from the countries of North Western Europe. Irish emigrants first crossed to Liverpool by steamship, while Scandinavians and Russians/Poles crossed the North Sea to Hull and travelled to Liverpool by train. Liverpool's share of the emigrant trade began to decline from the late nineteenth century as emigrants increasingly came from the countries of southern and eastern Europe. Some passed through Liverpool, but more sailed from the nearer German and Italian ports. There were three main motives for emigration. Some of the emigrants were fleeing from the hardships of poverty and unemployment; this was particularly applicable to the 1,250,000 Irish who emigrated between 1845 and 1851 as a result of the potato famine. For Russian and Polish Jews, emigration was a way of escaping from political and religious persecution. Other emigrants were not suffering the hardships of poverty or the terror of persecution, but were attracted by the possibility of a higher standard of living. Most emigrants usually spent between one and ten days waiting for their ship in a Liverpool lodging house. In the mid-nineteenth century emigrants passing through Liverpool were liable to harassment and fraud by local confidence tricksters, who became known as 'runners'. Runners frequently snatched the emigrants' luggage and would only return it if the emigrant paid a large fee. In the late 1840's and 1850's, lodging houses were often inhospitable, dirty and overcrowded. Until the early 1860's most emigrants left Liverpool on a sailing ship, and the voyage to Australia would take about 3- 4 months. Most emigrants travelled in the cheapest class of accommodation, known as the steerage. This was similar to a dormitory with bunks down the sides and tables in the centre. It was frequently overcrowded with poor ventilation. Emigrating in a sailing ship could be unpleasant, particularly during a storm; it was only better in degree in the early days of steamships! Diseases such as cholera and typhus frequently reached epidemic proportion as infection spread through the confined decks. Scores of emigrants died on this account. The 1855 Passenger Act helped to improve conditions, laying down minimum standards for rations, space and sanitation. From the 1860's the situation began to improve as steam started to replace sail, and the steamship companies started to look after emigrants during their stay in Liverpool, with their representatives meeting the emigrants on arrival in Liverpool. The emigrants were taken to lodging houses which were frequently owned by the steamship companies, but delays still occurred and there continued to be complaints about treatment in Liverpool even in the early 20th century. By 1870 virtually all emigrants went by steamship. Competition between the steamship companies helped, to some extent, to improve conditions for the emigrants. From about 1900 third class cabins began to replace the steerage accommodation. Accommodation was still spartan, but it was a considerable improvement. Hope this makes some interesting reading kind regards Heather Heather's South African Genealogy Help List at www.genealogy.co.za has moved to www.ancestry.mweb.co.za and soon to www.familytree.co.za Join the Cape Town Family History Society www.ancestors.co.za/society/socweb.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "am.coghlan" <am.coghlan@btopenworld.com> To: "Heather MacAlister" <heather@ancestors.co.za> Cc: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Lost Relatives in England Part 1 Dear Heather, This is very interesting -I used to live in Northampton and live in Bedford now so I wonder what the attraction was for ex SA's -certainly isnt the weather ;o)) Ann Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister" <heather@ancestors.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Lost Relatives in England Part 1 > Afternoon all > > Here is a list of people living in East Anglia in the 1881 British Census who were born in South Africa. > > It is interesting to see how many of these folk had one child born in South African then they went back to the UK and had a couple more there, then came back to SA and had another one here and then went back again to England !!! > > I am lucky enough to have the use of a very powerful program that enables me to search for "any word" in the 1881 census. > For those of you who have used the Census you will realise how utterly frustrating it is especially when you know that you relative lived there and cannot find them. > > I can search for string's or words with virtually any combination what so ever eg: "and + or + with + near + not " etc etc. > > Hopefully one day I will manage to sift out all those people like one below who was born in "Kimbali" - yes you would never find it on the Census as I can search for just the word "Cape" and then I can sort them and see where the error in places are. So I am really going to have some fun and hope I can find my lost great grandmother who was having a baby at that time but was no where to be found. > > Hope you find that illusive relative - cheers Heather > > Dwelling: 19 Princess St > Census Place: Northampton St Sepulchre, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341373 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1546 Folio 84 Page 41 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Wm.Thos. BLACK M 28 M Northampton > Rel: Head > Occ: Master Wood Turner Employing 1 Man & 1 Boy > Eliza BLACK M 28 F Ampthill, Bedford, England > Rel: Wife > Rose BLACK U 9 m F Northampton, England > Rel: Daur > Wm.Thos. BLACK W 57 M Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Father > Occ: Cabinet Maker > Patience BLACK U 22 F Northampton, England > Rel: Sister > Occ: Fitter Shoe Trade > Emily BLACK U 17 F Northampton, England > Rel: Sister > Occ: Domestic Servant > > > Dwelling: 1 Military Rd > Census Place: Northampton Priory St Andrew, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341373 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1549 Folio 130 Page 15 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John OATES M 28 M Cape Of Good Hope British Subject > Rel: Head > Occ: Independant Minister > Eliza L. OATES M 24 F Northampton, Northampton, England > Rel: Wife > John A. OATES 7 m M Northampton, Northampton, England > Rel: Son > Annie BROCKLEHURST U 18 F Manchester, Lancashire, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Domestic Servant > > > > > Dwelling: 17 Castle St > Census Place: Northampton All Sts, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341375 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1554 Folio 51 Page 3 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > George TODD M 29 M Northampton, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Butcher > Elizabeth TODD M 30 F Moulton, Northampton, England > Rel: Wife > Fred TODD U 15 M Northampton, England > Rel: Brother > Occ: Butcher > Eliza TODD 10 F Northampton, England > Rel: Sister > Occ: Scholar > Jane TODD 7 F Northampton, England > Rel: Sister > Occ: Scholar > Sarah TODD W 49 F Great Houghton, Northampton, England > Rel: Visitor Mother > William FULLER W 25 M Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Shoe Finisher > > > Dwelling: 38 West End > Census Place: Weedon Beck, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341375 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1557 Folio 60 Page 6 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > George STOCK M 25 M Kimeston, Gloucester, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Soldier > Ellen STOCK M 25 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Wife > Occ: Soldiers Wife > George Arthur STOCK 8 M Newport, Wales > Rel: Son > > > Dwelling: Blackmile Lane > Census Place: Grendon, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341377 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1567 Folio 6 Page 5 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William CHERRY M 60 M Grendon, Northampton, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Ag Lab > Mary CHERRY M 51 F Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Wife > Occ: Sempstress > Andrew CHERRY U 18 M Grendon, Northampton, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Ag Lab > Frank CHERRY U 16 M Grendon, Northampton, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Ag Lab > Septimus CHERRY 13 M Grendon, Northampton, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Ag Lab > > Dwelling: Rectory > Census Place: Rushton, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341379 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1577 Folio 50 Page 2 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Abiather HAWKES M 67 M Cape Of Good Hope Cape Town > Rel: Head > Occ: Rector Of Rushton > Isabel HAWKES M 68 F Rickmansworth, Hertford, England > Rel: Wife > Occ: Rectors Wife > Joseph MAJOR U 25 M Birmingham > Rel: Serv > Occ: Groom & Gardener > Sarah HAWKINS U 30 F Layton, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook Domestic > Mary J. CHAPMAN U 21 F Warkton, Northampton, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid > > Dwelling: 2 South Strret > Census Place: Peterborough, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341382 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1593 Folio 52 Page 22 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Edward EMBLOW M 32 M Peterboro, Northampton, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Tent & Marquee Maker Others 17 - 4 > Catherine EMBLOW M 40 F Cape Of Good Hope, Africa > Rel: Wife > James EMBLOW 12 M Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > John EMBLOW 2 M Manchester, Lancashire, > > > > > > > Dwelling: Newtown > Census Place: Ramsey, Huntingdon, England > Source: FHL Film 1341383 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1600 Folio 61 Page 10 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Edward TOSLAND M 53 M Grafton Undwd, Northampton, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Cordwainer > Eliza TOSLAND M 43 F Cape Of Good Hope British Subject > Rel: Wife > John T. TOSLAND 12 M Ramsey, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Labourer Ag > Herbert TOSLAND 6 M Ramsey, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > > > > > Institution: St Georges School Buckden Rd > Census Place: Brampton, Huntingdon, England > Source: FHL Film 1341384 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1603 Folio 22 Page 4 > Thomas Slingsby NIGHTINGALE U 15 M Robertson, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Scholar > Occ: Scholar > Percy A. NIGHTINGALE U 13 M Robertson, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Scholar > Occ: Scholar > Lacy G. NIGHTINGALE U 12 M Robertson, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Scholar > Occ: Scholar > > > > Dwelling: Crown St > Census Place: St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Source: FHL Film 1341385 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1608 Folio 33 Page 1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John FRANK W 72 M St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Insurance Agent > Lilla Maud FRANK 8 F Cape Colony Kimbali (sic Kimberley) > Rel: Gd Daur > Occ: Scholar > Jane ABBOTT U 55 F Bluntisham, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housekeeper > > > > Dwelling: East Street > Census Place: St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Source: FHL Film 1341385 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1608 Folio 74 Page 36 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Eliza CLAYTON W 64 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Drapers Widow > Eliza CLAYTON U 36 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Drapers Daur > Margaret CLAYTON U 28 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Governess (Teacher) > William Hughes FRANK 6 M Cape Town, South Africa > Rel: Grandson > Occ: Scholar > Harold CHAMBERS 9 M London Pimlico, London, Middlesex, England > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > Harriet MASTERSON U 16 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Domestic Servant > > > Dwelling: 33 St Cuthbert St > Census Place: Bedford St Cuthbert, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1618 Folio 6 Page 5 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Emily HAWKES W 47 F Bengal, India > Rel: Head > Occ: Officers Widow > Florence HAWKES 14 F Cape Colony, Africa > Rel: Dau > Laura HAYWARD 18 F London, Middlesex, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Serv > > > > Dwelling: 6 Grove Place > Census Place: Bedford St Cuthbert, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1618 Folio 18 Page 29 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William H. GREEN M 71 M Woolwich, Kent, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Retd Civil Serv Officer > Anne E.K. GREEN M 70 F Barbadoes, West Indies > Rel: Wife > William H.E. KNAPP 16 M Cape Colony King William Town > Rel: Grandson > Charlotte WALKER U 24 F Yelding, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Serv > > > Dwelling: 1 Park Road > Census Place: Bedford St Peter, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1618 Folio 100 Page 46 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Oliff DE WITT M 62 M Cape Town > Rel: Head > Occ: Major Retired > Annie DE WITT M 38 F Dublin, Ireland > Rel: Wife > Lilias DE WITT U 16 F (F), France > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Oliff DE WITT 12 M Dublin, Ireland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Hamlet DE WITT 9 M Dublin, Ireland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Elizabeth BENNETT U 18 F Banbury > Rel: Servant > Occ: Domestic Servant > > > > Dwelling: 21 Offa St > Census Place: Bedford St Peter, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 7 Page 7 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Jane DENTON W 65 F Goldington Chase, Northampton, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Retired Upholsterers > Elizabeth PACK U 17 F Pertenhall, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Servant > Occ: Domestic Servant > George H. MARSHALL M 64 M Pitsford, Northampton, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Retired Civil Service Cape Good Hope > Mary Lombard MARSHALL M 49 F Cape Good Hope Capetown > Rel: Lodger > Occ: None > > > > > Dwelling: 51 Ashburnham Rd > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 73 Page 38 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Francis E.M. COLQUHOUN W 39 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Head > Occ: Annuitant > Sophia M. COLQUHOUN U 19 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Daur > Frances K. COLQUHOUN U 18 F St Helena > Rel: Daur > Francis COLQUHOUN U 15 M St Helena > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Frederick C. COLQUHOUN 13 M Edinburgh, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Henry GOMPERTY 12 M India > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > Ellen GOMPERTY 11 F India > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > Kathleen GOMPERTY 9 F India > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > Frank GOMPERTY 7 M India > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > Richard GOMPERTY 4 M India > Rel: Boarder > Annie NORMAN U 23 F Northill, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook(Domestic Serv) > Susan KINNES U 20 F Marston, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid Domestic Serv > > > > Dwelling: 44 Ashburnham Rd > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 73 Page 38 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > George W. BACON M 51 M Buckingham, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Retired Farmer > Maria BACON M 51 F Dorset, England > Rel: Wife > Occ: Retired Farmers Wife > Maria S. BACON U 22 F Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Walter L. BACON U 18 M Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Son > Sidney W. BACON U 16 M Orange Free State, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Alice C. BACON 13 F Orange Free State, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Arthur H. BACON 11 M Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Edwin J. BACON 9 M Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Annie BARKER W 19 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook(Domestic Serv) > Sarah A. GINN U 14 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid(Domestic Serv) > > > > Dwelling: No 3 Crescent > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 81 Page 53 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Robert TALBOT M 60 M (BSB), At Sea > Rel: Head > Occ: Army Officer Major General R A Retired List > Anna S. TALBOT M 55 F Bombay, India > Rel: Wife > Mabel TALBOT U 15 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Mary TALBOT 12 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Susan LOFTS U 51 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook (Domestic Serv) > Mary BLAKESLEY U 24 F Wold, Northampton, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Parlormaid (Domestic Serv) > Millicant SMITH U 16 F Diddington, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid (Domestic Serv) > > > > > Dwelling: 31 Canning Street > Census Place: Bedford St Peter, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 92 Page 13 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Joseph BIRD M 44 M Kempston, Bedford, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Carter > Jane BIRD M 43 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Wife > George BIRD U 19 M Cape G. Hope, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Carter > John BIRD U 17 M Cape G. Hope, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Bricklayers Laborer > Elizabeth BIRD U 15 F Cape G. Hope, South Africa > Rel: Daugh. > Hannah BIRD 9 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daugh. > Occ: Scholar > Sarah BIRD 7 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daugh. > Occ: Scholar > Thomas BIRD 5 M Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Ellen BIRD 3 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daugh. > > > Dwelling: 131 Tavistock St > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 98 Page 26 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Sarah DOUGLAS DE FERNZI W 45 F River, Kent, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Income (Interest On Money) > Charles DOUGLAS DE FERNZI U 17 M King Williamtown, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Charlotte DOUGLAS DE FERNZI 13 F Port Elizabeth Cape, South Africa > Rel: Daug > Occ: Scholar > Flora DOUGLAS DE FERNZI 11 F Port Elizabeth Cape, South Africa > Rel: Daugh > Occ: Scholar > > > Dwelling: The Hoo > Census Place: Kempston, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1621 Folio 54 Page 5 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Robert O. CAMPBELL M 64 M Dunfermline, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Banker & Director Standard Life Ass Co > Elizabeth C. CAMPBELL M 44 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Wife > Katharine J. CAMPBELL U 23 F Madras, India > Rel: Daur > Florence N. CAMPBELL U 19 F Madras, India > Rel: Daur > Robert V. D. CAMPBELL U 15 M Dumbartonshire, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Herbert N. C. CAMPBELL U 10 M Sutton, Bedford, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Charles D. O. CAMPBELL U 7 M Sutton, Bedford, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Elizabeth MAKENZIE U 35 F Scotland, Scotland > Rel: Niece > Margaret MACKENZIE U 19 F Scotland, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Niece > William BRINCOURT (?) U 30 M Mitcham, Surrey, England > Rel: Butler > Occ: Butler > James HARTWELL U 24 M Turvey, Bedford, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Groom > John FEAST U 17 M Hackney, Middlesex, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Footman > Lousia BONIFACE U 22 F Pevensey, Sussex, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Cook > Margret JOHNSON U 30 F Arlesey, Bedford, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Housemaid > Harriett G. FOSTER U 28 F Kempston, Bedford, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Nursery Maid > Alice J. SAYER U 16 F Lowestoft, Suffolk, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Kitchen Maid > > > > Dwelling: 24 Muswell Road > Census Place: Bedford St Mary, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1622 Folio 53 Page 2 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Mary WHITFIELD M 44 F Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Supported By Husband Now At The Cape > Thomas J. WHITFIELD 11 M Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > > > > Dwelling: 40 Bromham Rd > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 33 Page 10 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Jennetta H. SMITH W 46 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Head > Arthur F. SMITH U 19 M Dalston, Middlesex, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Undergraduate Of London University > Mary A. SMITH 15 F Clapton, Middlesex, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Charles L. SMITH 13 M Hythe, Kent, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Harold F. SMITH 9 M Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Agnes A. SMITH 3 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daur > Ada E. BOWLER U 17 F Elstow, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: General Servant Domestic > > > > Dwelling: 15 Prebend St > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 86 Page 17 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Frederick KNEEBONE M 51 M Mauritius > Rel: Head > Occ: Major (Retired) 8Th Infantry S Bedford > Henrietta KNEEBONE M 50 F Cape Of G. Hope > Rel: Wife > Occ: Wife Of Major (Retired) 8Th Infantry S Bedford > Henrietta M. KNEEBONE U 20 F Rhyl, Wales > Rel: Daur > Occ: No Occupation > Annie E. KNEEBONE U 18 F Preston, Lancashire, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Frederick S.T.L. KNEEBONE 15 M Malta > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Frederick W. KNEEBONE 12 M Canada > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Gertrude J. KNEEBONE 8 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Mary D. SMITH W 84 F Greenwich, Kent, England > Rel: Mother In Law > Occ: Army Pensioner > > > > Dwelling: 1 Ashburnham Rd > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 123 Page 1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Robert RICHARDS M 45 M Cape Colony > Rel: Head > Occ: Advocate Or Barrister Not In Practice > Sarah Frances RICHARDS M 45 F Cape Colony > Rel: Wife > George Robert RICHARDS 15 M Natal, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Kate RICHARDS 13 F Natal, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Harry RICHARDS 8 M Natal, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Jane COLES U 23 F Swineshead, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Servant > Occ: General Serv > > > > Dwelling: 37 Ashburnham Rd > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 125 Page 5 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Emma M. B. HOGGE W 58 F Calcutta, India > Rel: Head > Occ: Annuitant > Henry S. HOGGE U 16 M Erith, Kent, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Mary R. HOGGE U 18 F Dartmouth, Devon, England > Rel: Daur > Effie F. HOGGE 5 F Meubello Punjab, India > Rel: Grand Daur > Alice M. HOGGE W 28 F NB , Edinburgh, Scotland > Rel: Daur In Law > Susie M. F. VAN BREDA U 19 F Cape Town Cape Colony > Rel: Visitor > Elizabeth CRISP U 40 F Swettisham, Norfolk, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Ladys Maid > Elizabeth PONTING M 28 F Chorlton, Kent, England > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Ladys Maid > Annie TODD U 21 F London Paddington, London, Middlesex, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Genl Serv > > > Dwelling: 6 The Avenue > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 128 Page 11 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William H. UNDERWOOD M 62 M Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Head > Occ: Landed Proprietor > Cecilia M. UNDERWOOD M 47 F Stratton, Wiltshire, England > Rel: Wife > Cecil A.D. UNDERWOOD 13 M Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Claude A. UNDERWOOD 7 M Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Septimus C. UNDERWOOD 6 M Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Son > Eleanor UNDERWOOD U 23 F Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Daur > Constance UNDERWOOD U 22 F Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Daur > Mabel C. UNDERWOOD U 15 F Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Daur > Winifred A. UNDERWOOD 9 F Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Daur > Sarah STEVENS 39 F Wilstead, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook Domestic > Anne ALOTT 50 F Coleshill, Berkshire, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Nurse Domestic > Eliza A. RICHARDSON 29 F Mount Pleasant, Lincoln, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Parlour Maid Domestic > Sarah J. JOHNSON 22 F Woodenderby Fen, Lincoln, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid Domestic > > > > Dwelling: North St Reading Room > Census Place: Leighton Buzzard, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341392 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1640 Folio 70 Page 30 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John MC INTOSH M 42 M Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Manager Of Working Mans Club > Lydia MC INTOSH M 42 F Ashdon, Essex, England > Rel: Wife > Jessie M. MC INTOSH U 16 F Cape Town, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Drapers Assistant > Emily G. MC INTOSH U 14 F Cape Town, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Lydia M. MC INTOSH U 12 F Chatham, Kent, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > > > > Dwelling: 55 Corpus Blds > Census Place: St Benedict, Cambridge, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1668 Folio 7 Page 7 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William E. THURTELL U 25 M Oxburgh, Norfolk, England > Rel: Lodger (Head) > Occ: Graduate Of Cambridge Univy & Student Of Medicine > George A.E. MURRAY U 19 M Graaf Reinet, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Student Of Medicine > > > > Dwelling: Silver St St Catherine Coll > Census Place: St Botolph, Cambridge, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1668 Folio 33 Page 12 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Charles K ROBINSON M 54 M Acomb, York, England > Rel: Head > Margaret C.M. ROBINSON M 53 F Off Cape Good Hope At Sea > Rel: Wife > Mary S. ROBINSON U 12 F Norwich > Rel: Daughter > > > > Dwelling: 4 Downing Pl > Census Place: St Andrew the Great, Cambridge, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1669 Folio 31 Page 56 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Rebeca RICKARD U 80 F Cambridge, England > Rel: Head > John C. RICKARD W 44 M Cambridge, England > Rel: Nephew > Occ: Comcl. Clerk > Annie R. RICKARD 11 F Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Niece > Occ: Scholar > Elizabeth E. GOODENOUGH U 15 F Cambridge, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Genl Sert > > > > Dwelling: 55 Rhad. Build. Jesus Lane > Census Place: All Saints, Cambridge, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1669 Folio 98 Page 23 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William WALKER M 52 M Gayton, Norfolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: College Servant > Harriett WALKER M 54 F Bumburgh, Suffolk, England > Rel: Wife > Arthur A. WALKER U 25 M Cambridge, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Law Student > Alfred WALKER U 24 M Cambridge, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Teacher of Music > Elizabeth R. CHAPMAN U 16 F Cambridge, England > Rel: Serv. > Occ: General Servant > James HEALD U 21 M Halewood, Lancashire, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Student > William H.M. RICHARDS U 19 M Cape Colony > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Student > N.A. MOORE U 21 M Hendon, Middlesex, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Student > > > Dwelling: Common Muckhill > Census Place: Ely Holy Trinity & St Mary, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341402 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1684 Folio 44 Page 1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Reuben VAUGHAN M 39 M Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Labourer Agri. > Annie Elizabeth VAUGHAN M 37 F Brafferton, York, England > Rel: Wife > Annie Elizth. Alice VAUGHAN 15 F (At Sea) Indian Ocean > Rel: Daur > Augustis Rewben VAUGHAN 13 M Grahams Town Cape > Rel: Son > Occ: (Scholar) > Sarah Robinson VAUGHAN 11 F Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: (Scholar) > Theadore VAUGHAN 9 M Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Son > Occ: (Scholar) > Richd.Rodd Theoffilis VAUGHAN 3 M Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Son > Occ: (Scholar) > > > Dwelling: Gorefield Road > Census Place: Leverington, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341404 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1694 Folio 12 Page 17 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Frederick CARLYON M 65 M Truro, Cornwall, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Rector of Leverington > Lucy CARLYON M 55 F Truro, Cornwall, England > Rel: Wife > Occ: Rectors Wife > Harriet C. CARLYON U 26 F Cape of Good Hope > Rel: Daur > Occ: Rectors Daughter > Hester M. CARLYON U 20 F Cape of Good Hope > Rel: Daur > Occ: Rectors Daughter > Edmund L. CARLYON 17 M Stoodleigh, Devon, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Rectors Son > Alice RANDS U 30 F Whittlesea, Cambridge, England > Rel: Servant > Occ: Cook Domestic Ser > Mary WRIGHT U 24 F Newton, Cambridge, England > Rel: Servant > Occ: Housemaid Dom Ser > > > Dwelling: Hawstead House > Census Place: Hawstead, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341444 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1837 Folio 8 Page 10 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Mary METCALF M 51 F Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Wife (Head) > Occ: None > Francis BOOTH M 30 F Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: None > Frederica METCALF 5 F Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Grand Daur > Occ: None > Ada HOULE U 20 F Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Niece > Occ: None > > Dwelling: > Census Place: Chedburgh, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341444 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1837 Folio 51 Page 9 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Henry Ingate KILNER U 30 M Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Rector Of Chedburgh > Kate BAILEY W 58 F Ceylon > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Housekeeper > Eliza C. RITCHE W 52 F Cape Of Good Hope, Africa > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Visitor > Susannah HARVEY U 27 F Pakenham, Suffolk, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook > Mary A. CLARKE U 20 F Woolpit, Suffolk, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid > > > > > Dwelling: 3 Athenaum Lane > Census Place: Bury St Edmunds St Mary, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341445 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1842 Folio 7 Page 7 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Henry P. FINCHAM M 58 M Bury St Eds, Suffolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Allowance From A Friend > Jane B. FINCHAM M 57 F Cape Colony Grahams Town > Rel: Wife > Robert H. FINCHAM U 18 M Diss, Norfolk, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Railway Clerk Unemp > Alfred J. FINCHAM 14 M Diss, Norfolk, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > > > > > Institution: "Grammar School" 18 Northgate St > Census Place: Bury St Edmunds St James, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341446 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1844 Folio 23 Page 2 > > William M. EUSTACE U 16 M Cape Town, South Africa > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > > > Dwelling: No 5 West Street > Census Place: Mildenhall, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341447 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1846 Folio 92 Page 1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Robert GOODRICH M 71 M Mildenhall, Suffolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Farmer 100 Acres 5 Men > Maria L. GOODRICH M 63 F Mildenhall, Suffolk, England > Rel: Wife > Catherine A. GOODRICH U 41 F Mildenhall, Suffolk, England > Rel: Daur > Annie SCATES W 35 F Middleton, Suffolk, England > Rel: Niece > Occ: Annuitant > Ester SCATES 5 F Cape Good Hope, Africa > Rel: Gt Niece > Eliza LEONARD U 30 F Mildenhall, Suffolk, England > Rel: Servt > Occ: General Servt > Hannah GREEN U 16 F Worlington, Suffolk, England > Rel: Servt > Occ: General Servt > > > > Dwelling: St Mathews "Berners St" > Census Place: Ipswich St Mathew, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341451 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1868 Folio 29 Page 20 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Mary BIDWELL U 36 F Norwich, Norfolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Schoolmistress (Private) > Louisa JEAFFERSON W 38 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Annuitant > Helen Edith COTMAN 9 F Cape Colony, Africa > Rel: Boarder ((Pupil)) > Occ: Scholar > Esther READE U 19 F Woodbridge, Suffolk, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: General Servant "Domestic" > > > Dwelling: 6 Ann St > Census Place: Ipswich St Mathew, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341451 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1869 Folio 54 Page 21 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Richard BARLOW M 58 M Elmira, Stafford, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Staff Sgant Major Battery Suffolk Artillery (Vol Sold) > Elizabeth BARLOW M 52 F Capetown Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Wife > Elizabeth BARLOW 19 F Harwich, Essex, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Dressmaker > Thomas BARLOW 16 M Harwich, Essex, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Apprentice Printer Compositor > Harry K. BARLOW 14 M Harwich, Essex, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Suffolk Battry Band (Soldr) > Ann C. BARLOW 11 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: (Military) Scholar > > > Dwelling: Norwich Road > Census Place: Ipswich St Mathew, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341452 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1870 Folio 34 Page 25 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Arthur HILL M 47 M Shirehampton, Gloucester, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Genl Practitioner M.R.C.S. Eng > Ellen HILL M 35 F London, Middlesex, England > Rel: Wife > Mary HILL 12 F Namayupland, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Robt.H.M. HILL 11 M Namayupland, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Arthur R. HILL 9 M Woodbridge, Suffolk, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Tryphosa HILL 7 F Blakesley, Northampton, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Esther F. HILL 6 F Peddie, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Agnes DADE U 16 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Genl Serv (Domestic) > > > > Dwelling: 49 Alms Houses > Census Place: Shire Hall Yard, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341452 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1873 Folio 19 Page 32 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Matilda CHAPLIN W 67 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Bible Woman > Elizabeth K. PLUMB U 22 F Cape Of Good Hope, Africa > Rel: Neice > Occ: Dyers Finisher > > > > Dwelling: Waterside > Census Place: Saxelby With Ingleby, Lincoln, England > Source: FHL Film 1341773 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3245 Folio 55 Page 13 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Benjamin WHITE M 60 M Widnerpool, Nottingham, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Joiner > Betsy WHITE M 56 F Saxilby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Wife > Glen SCORGIE M 35 M Hull, York, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Merchant > Ann SCORGIE M 34 F Saxilby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Daur > Glen W. SCORGIE 7 M Transvaal, Africa > Rel: Gr Son > Occ: Scholar > Mildred SCORGIE 6 F Transvaal, Africa > Rel: Gr Daur > Occ: Scholar > Annie SCORGIE 4 F Saxilby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Gr Daur > Occ: Scholar > Alexander SCORGIE 2 M Transvaal, Africa > Rel: Gr Son > Mary HARDY U 21 F Lincoln, Lincoln, England > Rel: Governess > Occ: Governess (Teacher) > Elizabeth GUYLEE U 16 F > Rel: Servant > Occ: Servant > Clara WHIT-BOOY U 16 F Africa > Rel: Servant > Occ: Nursemaid > > > > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List at www.genealogy.co.za has moved to > www.ancestry.mweb.co.za and soon to www.familytree.co.za > > Join the Cape Town Family History Society www.ancestors.co.za/society/socweb.htm >

Hi Everyone First a big thank you particularly to Heather MacAlister for introducing me to the National Archives. They have already helped me with find several bits of missing information. I wonder if you could help me with the following: I have a photocopy of part of the baptism certificate for my grand mother CONSTANCE ADA CROCKETT. Unfortunately part is torn off so I don't know what is missing. What is on it is as follows: Day of birth: (only partially distinguishable) 21 January 1887, Parents: Rowland Henry Vaughton Crockett & Helen Abode: Oudtshoon Profession (of father): artist Sponsors: Peter ?--- Blant, Fanny Blant, Ada Soulby Ceremony performed by: Percy E. H. Hilyard, assistant curate. ' ....a true extract from the register of baptisms of St Jude's Church, Oudtshoon, Cape of Good Hope.' Signed: Alfred Morris, Rector My first question is - where is Oudtshoon and does St Jude's still exist? Secondly is the Baptism register available for look ups? The reason I am asking is that I believe that 2 of Constance's brothers were born in South Africa as I have not been able to find them in the UK. They are ROWLAND GEORGE CROKETT born possibly 21 May 1881 FRANCIS REGINALD CROCKETT born about 1883, died an infant. I now know that their father ROWLAND HENRY VAUGHTON CROCKETT died in 1903 in the Cape Town area thanks to the National Archives. I was wondering if there might be a burial record in St Judes. I would be grateful for any suggestions on how to follow this up. many thanks Peter Forrest Newcastle upon Tyne. UK

Dear Heather, This is very interesting -I used to live in Northampton and live in Bedford now so I wonder what the attraction was for ex SA's -certainly isnt the weather ;o)) Ann Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather MacAlister" <heather@ancestors.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: Lost Relatives in England Part 1 > Afternoon all > > Here is a list of people living in East Anglia in the 1881 British Census who were born in South Africa. > > It is interesting to see how many of these folk had one child born in South African then they went back to the UK and had a couple more there, then came back to SA and had another one here and then went back again to England !!! > > I am lucky enough to have the use of a very powerful program that enables me to search for "any word" in the 1881 census. > For those of you who have used the Census you will realise how utterly frustrating it is especially when you know that you relative lived there and cannot find them. > > I can search for string's or words with virtually any combination what so ever eg: "and + or + with + near + not " etc etc. > > Hopefully one day I will manage to sift out all those people like one below who was born in "Kimbali" - yes you would never find it on the Census as I can search for just the word "Cape" and then I can sort them and see where the error in places are. So I am really going to have some fun and hope I can find my lost great grandmother who was having a baby at that time but was no where to be found. > > Hope you find that illusive relative - cheers Heather > > Dwelling: 19 Princess St > Census Place: Northampton St Sepulchre, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341373 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1546 Folio 84 Page 41 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Wm.Thos. BLACK M 28 M Northampton > Rel: Head > Occ: Master Wood Turner Employing 1 Man & 1 Boy > Eliza BLACK M 28 F Ampthill, Bedford, England > Rel: Wife > Rose BLACK U 9 m F Northampton, England > Rel: Daur > Wm.Thos. BLACK W 57 M Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Father > Occ: Cabinet Maker > Patience BLACK U 22 F Northampton, England > Rel: Sister > Occ: Fitter Shoe Trade > Emily BLACK U 17 F Northampton, England > Rel: Sister > Occ: Domestic Servant > > > Dwelling: 1 Military Rd > Census Place: Northampton Priory St Andrew, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341373 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1549 Folio 130 Page 15 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John OATES M 28 M Cape Of Good Hope British Subject > Rel: Head > Occ: Independant Minister > Eliza L. OATES M 24 F Northampton, Northampton, England > Rel: Wife > John A. OATES 7 m M Northampton, Northampton, England > Rel: Son > Annie BROCKLEHURST U 18 F Manchester, Lancashire, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Domestic Servant > > > > > Dwelling: 17 Castle St > Census Place: Northampton All Sts, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341375 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1554 Folio 51 Page 3 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > George TODD M 29 M Northampton, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Butcher > Elizabeth TODD M 30 F Moulton, Northampton, England > Rel: Wife > Fred TODD U 15 M Northampton, England > Rel: Brother > Occ: Butcher > Eliza TODD 10 F Northampton, England > Rel: Sister > Occ: Scholar > Jane TODD 7 F Northampton, England > Rel: Sister > Occ: Scholar > Sarah TODD W 49 F Great Houghton, Northampton, England > Rel: Visitor Mother > William FULLER W 25 M Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Shoe Finisher > > > Dwelling: 38 West End > Census Place: Weedon Beck, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341375 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1557 Folio 60 Page 6 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > George STOCK M 25 M Kimeston, Gloucester, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Soldier > Ellen STOCK M 25 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Wife > Occ: Soldiers Wife > George Arthur STOCK 8 M Newport, Wales > Rel: Son > > > Dwelling: Blackmile Lane > Census Place: Grendon, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341377 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1567 Folio 6 Page 5 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William CHERRY M 60 M Grendon, Northampton, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Ag Lab > Mary CHERRY M 51 F Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Wife > Occ: Sempstress > Andrew CHERRY U 18 M Grendon, Northampton, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Ag Lab > Frank CHERRY U 16 M Grendon, Northampton, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Ag Lab > Septimus CHERRY 13 M Grendon, Northampton, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Ag Lab > > Dwelling: Rectory > Census Place: Rushton, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341379 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1577 Folio 50 Page 2 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Abiather HAWKES M 67 M Cape Of Good Hope Cape Town > Rel: Head > Occ: Rector Of Rushton > Isabel HAWKES M 68 F Rickmansworth, Hertford, England > Rel: Wife > Occ: Rectors Wife > Joseph MAJOR U 25 M Birmingham > Rel: Serv > Occ: Groom & Gardener > Sarah HAWKINS U 30 F Layton, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook Domestic > Mary J. CHAPMAN U 21 F Warkton, Northampton, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid > > Dwelling: 2 South Strret > Census Place: Peterborough, Northampton, England > Source: FHL Film 1341382 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1593 Folio 52 Page 22 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Edward EMBLOW M 32 M Peterboro, Northampton, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Tent & Marquee Maker Others 17 - 4 > Catherine EMBLOW M 40 F Cape Of Good Hope, Africa > Rel: Wife > James EMBLOW 12 M Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > John EMBLOW 2 M Manchester, Lancashire, > > > > > > > Dwelling: Newtown > Census Place: Ramsey, Huntingdon, England > Source: FHL Film 1341383 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1600 Folio 61 Page 10 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Edward TOSLAND M 53 M Grafton Undwd, Northampton, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Cordwainer > Eliza TOSLAND M 43 F Cape Of Good Hope British Subject > Rel: Wife > John T. TOSLAND 12 M Ramsey, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Labourer Ag > Herbert TOSLAND 6 M Ramsey, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > > > > > Institution: St Georges School Buckden Rd > Census Place: Brampton, Huntingdon, England > Source: FHL Film 1341384 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1603 Folio 22 Page 4 > Thomas Slingsby NIGHTINGALE U 15 M Robertson, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Scholar > Occ: Scholar > Percy A. NIGHTINGALE U 13 M Robertson, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Scholar > Occ: Scholar > Lacy G. NIGHTINGALE U 12 M Robertson, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Scholar > Occ: Scholar > > > > Dwelling: Crown St > Census Place: St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Source: FHL Film 1341385 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1608 Folio 33 Page 1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John FRANK W 72 M St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Insurance Agent > Lilla Maud FRANK 8 F Cape Colony Kimbali (sic Kimberley) > Rel: Gd Daur > Occ: Scholar > Jane ABBOTT U 55 F Bluntisham, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housekeeper > > > > Dwelling: East Street > Census Place: St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Source: FHL Film 1341385 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1608 Folio 74 Page 36 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Eliza CLAYTON W 64 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Drapers Widow > Eliza CLAYTON U 36 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Drapers Daur > Margaret CLAYTON U 28 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Governess (Teacher) > William Hughes FRANK 6 M Cape Town, South Africa > Rel: Grandson > Occ: Scholar > Harold CHAMBERS 9 M London Pimlico, London, Middlesex, England > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > Harriet MASTERSON U 16 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Domestic Servant > > > Dwelling: 33 St Cuthbert St > Census Place: Bedford St Cuthbert, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1618 Folio 6 Page 5 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Emily HAWKES W 47 F Bengal, India > Rel: Head > Occ: Officers Widow > Florence HAWKES 14 F Cape Colony, Africa > Rel: Dau > Laura HAYWARD 18 F London, Middlesex, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Serv > > > > Dwelling: 6 Grove Place > Census Place: Bedford St Cuthbert, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1618 Folio 18 Page 29 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William H. GREEN M 71 M Woolwich, Kent, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Retd Civil Serv Officer > Anne E.K. GREEN M 70 F Barbadoes, West Indies > Rel: Wife > William H.E. KNAPP 16 M Cape Colony King William Town > Rel: Grandson > Charlotte WALKER U 24 F Yelding, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Serv > > > Dwelling: 1 Park Road > Census Place: Bedford St Peter, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1618 Folio 100 Page 46 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Oliff DE WITT M 62 M Cape Town > Rel: Head > Occ: Major Retired > Annie DE WITT M 38 F Dublin, Ireland > Rel: Wife > Lilias DE WITT U 16 F (F), France > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Oliff DE WITT 12 M Dublin, Ireland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Hamlet DE WITT 9 M Dublin, Ireland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Elizabeth BENNETT U 18 F Banbury > Rel: Servant > Occ: Domestic Servant > > > > Dwelling: 21 Offa St > Census Place: Bedford St Peter, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 7 Page 7 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Jane DENTON W 65 F Goldington Chase, Northampton, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Retired Upholsterers > Elizabeth PACK U 17 F Pertenhall, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Servant > Occ: Domestic Servant > George H. MARSHALL M 64 M Pitsford, Northampton, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Retired Civil Service Cape Good Hope > Mary Lombard MARSHALL M 49 F Cape Good Hope Capetown > Rel: Lodger > Occ: None > > > > > Dwelling: 51 Ashburnham Rd > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 73 Page 38 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Francis E.M. COLQUHOUN W 39 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Head > Occ: Annuitant > Sophia M. COLQUHOUN U 19 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Daur > Frances K. COLQUHOUN U 18 F St Helena > Rel: Daur > Francis COLQUHOUN U 15 M St Helena > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Frederick C. COLQUHOUN 13 M Edinburgh, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Henry GOMPERTY 12 M India > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > Ellen GOMPERTY 11 F India > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > Kathleen GOMPERTY 9 F India > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > Frank GOMPERTY 7 M India > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > Richard GOMPERTY 4 M India > Rel: Boarder > Annie NORMAN U 23 F Northill, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook(Domestic Serv) > Susan KINNES U 20 F Marston, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid Domestic Serv > > > > Dwelling: 44 Ashburnham Rd > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 73 Page 38 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > George W. BACON M 51 M Buckingham, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Retired Farmer > Maria BACON M 51 F Dorset, England > Rel: Wife > Occ: Retired Farmers Wife > Maria S. BACON U 22 F Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Walter L. BACON U 18 M Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Son > Sidney W. BACON U 16 M Orange Free State, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Alice C. BACON 13 F Orange Free State, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Arthur H. BACON 11 M Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Edwin J. BACON 9 M Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Annie BARKER W 19 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook(Domestic Serv) > Sarah A. GINN U 14 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid(Domestic Serv) > > > > Dwelling: No 3 Crescent > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 81 Page 53 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Robert TALBOT M 60 M (BSB), At Sea > Rel: Head > Occ: Army Officer Major General R A Retired List > Anna S. TALBOT M 55 F Bombay, India > Rel: Wife > Mabel TALBOT U 15 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Mary TALBOT 12 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Susan LOFTS U 51 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook (Domestic Serv) > Mary BLAKESLEY U 24 F Wold, Northampton, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Parlormaid (Domestic Serv) > Millicant SMITH U 16 F Diddington, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid (Domestic Serv) > > > > > Dwelling: 31 Canning Street > Census Place: Bedford St Peter, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 92 Page 13 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Joseph BIRD M 44 M Kempston, Bedford, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Carter > Jane BIRD M 43 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Wife > George BIRD U 19 M Cape G. Hope, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Carter > John BIRD U 17 M Cape G. Hope, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Bricklayers Laborer > Elizabeth BIRD U 15 F Cape G. Hope, South Africa > Rel: Daugh. > Hannah BIRD 9 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daugh. > Occ: Scholar > Sarah BIRD 7 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daugh. > Occ: Scholar > Thomas BIRD 5 M Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Ellen BIRD 3 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daugh. > > > Dwelling: 131 Tavistock St > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 98 Page 26 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Sarah DOUGLAS DE FERNZI W 45 F River, Kent, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Income (Interest On Money) > Charles DOUGLAS DE FERNZI U 17 M King Williamtown, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Charlotte DOUGLAS DE FERNZI 13 F Port Elizabeth Cape, South Africa > Rel: Daug > Occ: Scholar > Flora DOUGLAS DE FERNZI 11 F Port Elizabeth Cape, South Africa > Rel: Daugh > Occ: Scholar > > > Dwelling: The Hoo > Census Place: Kempston, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1621 Folio 54 Page 5 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Robert O. CAMPBELL M 64 M Dunfermline, Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Banker & Director Standard Life Ass Co > Elizabeth C. CAMPBELL M 44 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Wife > Katharine J. CAMPBELL U 23 F Madras, India > Rel: Daur > Florence N. CAMPBELL U 19 F Madras, India > Rel: Daur > Robert V. D. CAMPBELL U 15 M Dumbartonshire, Scotland > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Herbert N. C. CAMPBELL U 10 M Sutton, Bedford, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Charles D. O. CAMPBELL U 7 M Sutton, Bedford, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Elizabeth MAKENZIE U 35 F Scotland, Scotland > Rel: Niece > Margaret MACKENZIE U 19 F Scotland, Lanark, Scotland > Rel: Niece > William BRINCOURT (?) U 30 M Mitcham, Surrey, England > Rel: Butler > Occ: Butler > James HARTWELL U 24 M Turvey, Bedford, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Groom > John FEAST U 17 M Hackney, Middlesex, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Footman > Lousia BONIFACE U 22 F Pevensey, Sussex, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Cook > Margret JOHNSON U 30 F Arlesey, Bedford, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Housemaid > Harriett G. FOSTER U 28 F Kempston, Bedford, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Nursery Maid > Alice J. SAYER U 16 F Lowestoft, Suffolk, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Kitchen Maid > > > > Dwelling: 24 Muswell Road > Census Place: Bedford St Mary, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1622 Folio 53 Page 2 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Mary WHITFIELD M 44 F Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Supported By Husband Now At The Cape > Thomas J. WHITFIELD 11 M Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > > > > Dwelling: 40 Bromham Rd > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 33 Page 10 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Jennetta H. SMITH W 46 F Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Head > Arthur F. SMITH U 19 M Dalston, Middlesex, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Undergraduate Of London University > Mary A. SMITH 15 F Clapton, Middlesex, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Charles L. SMITH 13 M Hythe, Kent, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Harold F. SMITH 9 M Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Agnes A. SMITH 3 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daur > Ada E. BOWLER U 17 F Elstow, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: General Servant Domestic > > > > Dwelling: 15 Prebend St > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 86 Page 17 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Frederick KNEEBONE M 51 M Mauritius > Rel: Head > Occ: Major (Retired) 8Th Infantry S Bedford > Henrietta KNEEBONE M 50 F Cape Of G. Hope > Rel: Wife > Occ: Wife Of Major (Retired) 8Th Infantry S Bedford > Henrietta M. KNEEBONE U 20 F Rhyl, Wales > Rel: Daur > Occ: No Occupation > Annie E. KNEEBONE U 18 F Preston, Lancashire, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Frederick S.T.L. KNEEBONE 15 M Malta > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Frederick W. KNEEBONE 12 M Canada > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Gertrude J. KNEEBONE 8 F Bedford, Bedford, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Mary D. SMITH W 84 F Greenwich, Kent, England > Rel: Mother In Law > Occ: Army Pensioner > > > > Dwelling: 1 Ashburnham Rd > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 123 Page 1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Robert RICHARDS M 45 M Cape Colony > Rel: Head > Occ: Advocate Or Barrister Not In Practice > Sarah Frances RICHARDS M 45 F Cape Colony > Rel: Wife > George Robert RICHARDS 15 M Natal, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Kate RICHARDS 13 F Natal, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Harry RICHARDS 8 M Natal, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Jane COLES U 23 F Swineshead, Huntingdon, England > Rel: Servant > Occ: General Serv > > > > Dwelling: 37 Ashburnham Rd > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 125 Page 5 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Emma M. B. HOGGE W 58 F Calcutta, India > Rel: Head > Occ: Annuitant > Henry S. HOGGE U 16 M Erith, Kent, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Mary R. HOGGE U 18 F Dartmouth, Devon, England > Rel: Daur > Effie F. HOGGE 5 F Meubello Punjab, India > Rel: Grand Daur > Alice M. HOGGE W 28 F NB , Edinburgh, Scotland > Rel: Daur In Law > Susie M. F. VAN BREDA U 19 F Cape Town Cape Colony > Rel: Visitor > Elizabeth CRISP U 40 F Swettisham, Norfolk, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Ladys Maid > Elizabeth PONTING M 28 F Chorlton, Kent, England > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Ladys Maid > Annie TODD U 21 F London Paddington, London, Middlesex, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Genl Serv > > > Dwelling: 6 The Avenue > Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 128 Page 11 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William H. UNDERWOOD M 62 M Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Head > Occ: Landed Proprietor > Cecilia M. UNDERWOOD M 47 F Stratton, Wiltshire, England > Rel: Wife > Cecil A.D. UNDERWOOD 13 M Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Claude A. UNDERWOOD 7 M Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Septimus C. UNDERWOOD 6 M Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Son > Eleanor UNDERWOOD U 23 F Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Daur > Constance UNDERWOOD U 22 F Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Daur > Mabel C. UNDERWOOD U 15 F Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Daur > Winifred A. UNDERWOOD 9 F Somerby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Daur > Sarah STEVENS 39 F Wilstead, Bedford, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook Domestic > Anne ALOTT 50 F Coleshill, Berkshire, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Nurse Domestic > Eliza A. RICHARDSON 29 F Mount Pleasant, Lincoln, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Parlour Maid Domestic > Sarah J. JOHNSON 22 F Woodenderby Fen, Lincoln, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid Domestic > > > > Dwelling: North St Reading Room > Census Place: Leighton Buzzard, Bedford, England > Source: FHL Film 1341392 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1640 Folio 70 Page 30 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John MC INTOSH M 42 M Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Manager Of Working Mans Club > Lydia MC INTOSH M 42 F Ashdon, Essex, England > Rel: Wife > Jessie M. MC INTOSH U 16 F Cape Town, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Drapers Assistant > Emily G. MC INTOSH U 14 F Cape Town, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Lydia M. MC INTOSH U 12 F Chatham, Kent, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > > > > Dwelling: 55 Corpus Blds > Census Place: St Benedict, Cambridge, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1668 Folio 7 Page 7 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William E. THURTELL U 25 M Oxburgh, Norfolk, England > Rel: Lodger (Head) > Occ: Graduate Of Cambridge Univy & Student Of Medicine > George A.E. MURRAY U 19 M Graaf Reinet, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Student Of Medicine > > > > Dwelling: Silver St St Catherine Coll > Census Place: St Botolph, Cambridge, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1668 Folio 33 Page 12 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Charles K ROBINSON M 54 M Acomb, York, England > Rel: Head > Margaret C.M. ROBINSON M 53 F Off Cape Good Hope At Sea > Rel: Wife > Mary S. ROBINSON U 12 F Norwich > Rel: Daughter > > > > Dwelling: 4 Downing Pl > Census Place: St Andrew the Great, Cambridge, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1669 Folio 31 Page 56 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Rebeca RICKARD U 80 F Cambridge, England > Rel: Head > John C. RICKARD W 44 M Cambridge, England > Rel: Nephew > Occ: Comcl. Clerk > Annie R. RICKARD 11 F Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Niece > Occ: Scholar > Elizabeth E. GOODENOUGH U 15 F Cambridge, England > Rel: Sert > Occ: Genl Sert > > > > Dwelling: 55 Rhad. Build. Jesus Lane > Census Place: All Saints, Cambridge, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1669 Folio 98 Page 23 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William WALKER M 52 M Gayton, Norfolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: College Servant > Harriett WALKER M 54 F Bumburgh, Suffolk, England > Rel: Wife > Arthur A. WALKER U 25 M Cambridge, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Law Student > Alfred WALKER U 24 M Cambridge, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Teacher of Music > Elizabeth R. CHAPMAN U 16 F Cambridge, England > Rel: Serv. > Occ: General Servant > James HEALD U 21 M Halewood, Lancashire, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Student > William H.M. RICHARDS U 19 M Cape Colony > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Student > N.A. MOORE U 21 M Hendon, Middlesex, England > Rel: Lodger > Occ: Student > > > Dwelling: Common Muckhill > Census Place: Ely Holy Trinity & St Mary, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341402 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1684 Folio 44 Page 1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Reuben VAUGHAN M 39 M Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Labourer Agri. > Annie Elizabeth VAUGHAN M 37 F Brafferton, York, England > Rel: Wife > Annie Elizth. Alice VAUGHAN 15 F (At Sea) Indian Ocean > Rel: Daur > Augustis Rewben VAUGHAN 13 M Grahams Town Cape > Rel: Son > Occ: (Scholar) > Sarah Robinson VAUGHAN 11 F Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: (Scholar) > Theadore VAUGHAN 9 M Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Son > Occ: (Scholar) > Richd.Rodd Theoffilis VAUGHAN 3 M Ely, Cambridge, England > Rel: Son > Occ: (Scholar) > > > Dwelling: Gorefield Road > Census Place: Leverington, Cambridge, England > Source: FHL Film 1341404 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1694 Folio 12 Page 17 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Frederick CARLYON M 65 M Truro, Cornwall, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Rector of Leverington > Lucy CARLYON M 55 F Truro, Cornwall, England > Rel: Wife > Occ: Rectors Wife > Harriet C. CARLYON U 26 F Cape of Good Hope > Rel: Daur > Occ: Rectors Daughter > Hester M. CARLYON U 20 F Cape of Good Hope > Rel: Daur > Occ: Rectors Daughter > Edmund L. CARLYON 17 M Stoodleigh, Devon, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Rectors Son > Alice RANDS U 30 F Whittlesea, Cambridge, England > Rel: Servant > Occ: Cook Domestic Ser > Mary WRIGHT U 24 F Newton, Cambridge, England > Rel: Servant > Occ: Housemaid Dom Ser > > > Dwelling: Hawstead House > Census Place: Hawstead, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341444 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1837 Folio 8 Page 10 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Mary METCALF M 51 F Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Wife (Head) > Occ: None > Francis BOOTH M 30 F Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: None > Frederica METCALF 5 F Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Grand Daur > Occ: None > Ada HOULE U 20 F Cape Colony, South Africa > Rel: Niece > Occ: None > > Dwelling: > Census Place: Chedburgh, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341444 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1837 Folio 51 Page 9 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Henry Ingate KILNER U 30 M Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Rector Of Chedburgh > Kate BAILEY W 58 F Ceylon > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Housekeeper > Eliza C. RITCHE W 52 F Cape Of Good Hope, Africa > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Visitor > Susannah HARVEY U 27 F Pakenham, Suffolk, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Cook > Mary A. CLARKE U 20 F Woolpit, Suffolk, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Housemaid > > > > > Dwelling: 3 Athenaum Lane > Census Place: Bury St Edmunds St Mary, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341445 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1842 Folio 7 Page 7 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Henry P. FINCHAM M 58 M Bury St Eds, Suffolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Allowance From A Friend > Jane B. FINCHAM M 57 F Cape Colony Grahams Town > Rel: Wife > Robert H. FINCHAM U 18 M Diss, Norfolk, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Railway Clerk Unemp > Alfred J. FINCHAM 14 M Diss, Norfolk, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > > > > > Institution: "Grammar School" 18 Northgate St > Census Place: Bury St Edmunds St James, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341446 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1844 Folio 23 Page 2 > > William M. EUSTACE U 16 M Cape Town, South Africa > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Scholar > > > Dwelling: No 5 West Street > Census Place: Mildenhall, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341447 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1846 Folio 92 Page 1 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Robert GOODRICH M 71 M Mildenhall, Suffolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Farmer 100 Acres 5 Men > Maria L. GOODRICH M 63 F Mildenhall, Suffolk, England > Rel: Wife > Catherine A. GOODRICH U 41 F Mildenhall, Suffolk, England > Rel: Daur > Annie SCATES W 35 F Middleton, Suffolk, England > Rel: Niece > Occ: Annuitant > Ester SCATES 5 F Cape Good Hope, Africa > Rel: Gt Niece > Eliza LEONARD U 30 F Mildenhall, Suffolk, England > Rel: Servt > Occ: General Servt > Hannah GREEN U 16 F Worlington, Suffolk, England > Rel: Servt > Occ: General Servt > > > > Dwelling: St Mathews "Berners St" > Census Place: Ipswich St Mathew, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341451 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1868 Folio 29 Page 20 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Mary BIDWELL U 36 F Norwich, Norfolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Schoolmistress (Private) > Louisa JEAFFERSON W 38 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Visitor > Occ: Annuitant > Helen Edith COTMAN 9 F Cape Colony, Africa > Rel: Boarder ((Pupil)) > Occ: Scholar > Esther READE U 19 F Woodbridge, Suffolk, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: General Servant "Domestic" > > > Dwelling: 6 Ann St > Census Place: Ipswich St Mathew, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341451 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1869 Folio 54 Page 21 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Richard BARLOW M 58 M Elmira, Stafford, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Staff Sgant Major Battery Suffolk Artillery (Vol Sold) > Elizabeth BARLOW M 52 F Capetown Cape Of Good Hope > Rel: Wife > Elizabeth BARLOW 19 F Harwich, Essex, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Dressmaker > Thomas BARLOW 16 M Harwich, Essex, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Apprentice Printer Compositor > Harry K. BARLOW 14 M Harwich, Essex, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Suffolk Battry Band (Soldr) > Ann C. BARLOW 11 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: (Military) Scholar > > > Dwelling: Norwich Road > Census Place: Ipswich St Mathew, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341452 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1870 Folio 34 Page 25 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Arthur HILL M 47 M Shirehampton, Gloucester, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Genl Practitioner M.R.C.S. Eng > Ellen HILL M 35 F London, Middlesex, England > Rel: Wife > Mary HILL 12 F Namayupland, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Robt.H.M. HILL 11 M Namayupland, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Arthur R. HILL 9 M Woodbridge, Suffolk, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Tryphosa HILL 7 F Blakesley, Northampton, England > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Esther F. HILL 6 F Peddie, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > Agnes DADE U 16 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Serv > Occ: Genl Serv (Domestic) > > > > Dwelling: 49 Alms Houses > Census Place: Shire Hall Yard, Suffolk, England > Source: FHL Film 1341452 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1873 Folio 19 Page 32 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Matilda CHAPLIN W 67 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Bible Woman > Elizabeth K. PLUMB U 22 F Cape Of Good Hope, Africa > Rel: Neice > Occ: Dyers Finisher > > > > Dwelling: Waterside > Census Place: Saxelby With Ingleby, Lincoln, England > Source: FHL Film 1341773 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3245 Folio 55 Page 13 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > Benjamin WHITE M 60 M Widnerpool, Nottingham, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Joiner > Betsy WHITE M 56 F Saxilby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Wife > Glen SCORGIE M 35 M Hull, York, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Merchant > Ann SCORGIE M 34 F Saxilby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Daur > Glen W. SCORGIE 7 M Transvaal, Africa > Rel: Gr Son > Occ: Scholar > Mildred SCORGIE 6 F Transvaal, Africa > Rel: Gr Daur > Occ: Scholar > Annie SCORGIE 4 F Saxilby, Lincoln, England > Rel: Gr Daur > Occ: Scholar > Alexander SCORGIE 2 M Transvaal, Africa > Rel: Gr Son > Mary HARDY U 21 F Lincoln, Lincoln, England > Rel: Governess > Occ: Governess (Teacher) > Elizabeth GUYLEE U 16 F > Rel: Servant > Occ: Servant > Clara WHIT-BOOY U 16 F Africa > Rel: Servant > Occ: Nursemaid > > > > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List at www.genealogy.co.za has moved to > www.ancestry.mweb.co.za and soon to www.familytree.co.za > > Join the Cape Town Family History Society www.ancestors.co.za/society/socweb.htm >

Afternoon all Here is a list of people living in East Anglia in the 1881 British Census who were born in South Africa. It is interesting to see how many of these folk had one child born in South African then they went back to the UK and had a couple more there, then came back to SA and had another one here and then went back again to England !!! I am lucky enough to have the use of a very powerful program that enables me to search for "any word" in the 1881 census. For those of you who have used the Census you will realise how utterly frustrating it is especially when you know that you relative lived there and cannot find them. I can search for string's or words with virtually any combination what so ever eg: "and + or + with + near + not " etc etc. Hopefully one day I will manage to sift out all those people like one below who was born in "Kimbali" - yes you would never find it on the Census as I can search for just the word "Cape" and then I can sort them and see where the error in places are. So I am really going to have some fun and hope I can find my lost great grandmother who was having a baby at that time but was no where to be found. Hope you find that illusive relative - cheers Heather Dwelling: 19 Princess St Census Place: Northampton St Sepulchre, Northampton, England Source: FHL Film 1341373 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1546 Folio 84 Page 41 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Wm.Thos. BLACK M 28 M Northampton Rel: Head Occ: Master Wood Turner Employing 1 Man & 1 Boy Eliza BLACK M 28 F Ampthill, Bedford, England Rel: Wife Rose BLACK U 9 m F Northampton, England Rel: Daur Wm.Thos. BLACK W 57 M Cape Of Good Hope Rel: Father Occ: Cabinet Maker Patience BLACK U 22 F Northampton, England Rel: Sister Occ: Fitter Shoe Trade Emily BLACK U 17 F Northampton, England Rel: Sister Occ: Domestic Servant Dwelling: 1 Military Rd Census Place: Northampton Priory St Andrew, Northampton, England Source: FHL Film 1341373 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1549 Folio 130 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John OATES M 28 M Cape Of Good Hope British Subject Rel: Head Occ: Independant Minister Eliza L. OATES M 24 F Northampton, Northampton, England Rel: Wife John A. OATES 7 m M Northampton, Northampton, England Rel: Son Annie BROCKLEHURST U 18 F Manchester, Lancashire, England Rel: Serv Occ: Domestic Servant Dwelling: 17 Castle St Census Place: Northampton All Sts, Northampton, England Source: FHL Film 1341375 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1554 Folio 51 Page 3 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George TODD M 29 M Northampton, England Rel: Head Occ: Butcher Elizabeth TODD M 30 F Moulton, Northampton, England Rel: Wife Fred TODD U 15 M Northampton, England Rel: Brother Occ: Butcher Eliza TODD 10 F Northampton, England Rel: Sister Occ: Scholar Jane TODD 7 F Northampton, England Rel: Sister Occ: Scholar Sarah TODD W 49 F Great Houghton, Northampton, England Rel: Visitor Mother William FULLER W 25 M Cape Of Good Hope Rel: Lodger Occ: Shoe Finisher Dwelling: 38 West End Census Place: Weedon Beck, Northampton, England Source: FHL Film 1341375 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1557 Folio 60 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George STOCK M 25 M Kimeston, Gloucester, England Rel: Head Occ: Soldier Ellen STOCK M 25 F Cape Of Good Hope Rel: Wife Occ: Soldiers Wife George Arthur STOCK 8 M Newport, Wales Rel: Son Dwelling: Blackmile Lane Census Place: Grendon, Northampton, England Source: FHL Film 1341377 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1567 Folio 6 Page 5 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William CHERRY M 60 M Grendon, Northampton, England Rel: Head Occ: Ag Lab Mary CHERRY M 51 F Cape Of Good Hope, South Africa Rel: Wife Occ: Sempstress Andrew CHERRY U 18 M Grendon, Northampton, England Rel: Son Occ: Ag Lab Frank CHERRY U 16 M Grendon, Northampton, England Rel: Son Occ: Ag Lab Septimus CHERRY 13 M Grendon, Northampton, England Rel: Son Occ: Ag Lab Dwelling: Rectory Census Place: Rushton, Northampton, England Source: FHL Film 1341379 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1577 Folio 50 Page 2 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Abiather HAWKES M 67 M Cape Of Good Hope Cape Town Rel: Head Occ: Rector Of Rushton Isabel HAWKES M 68 F Rickmansworth, Hertford, England Rel: Wife Occ: Rectors Wife Joseph MAJOR U 25 M Birmingham Rel: Serv Occ: Groom & Gardener Sarah HAWKINS U 30 F Layton, Huntingdon, England Rel: Serv Occ: Cook Domestic Mary J. CHAPMAN U 21 F Warkton, Northampton, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housemaid Dwelling: 2 South Strret Census Place: Peterborough, Northampton, England Source: FHL Film 1341382 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1593 Folio 52 Page 22 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward EMBLOW M 32 M Peterboro, Northampton, England Rel: Head Occ: Tent & Marquee Maker Others 17 - 4 Catherine EMBLOW M 40 F Cape Of Good Hope, Africa Rel: Wife James EMBLOW 12 M Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar John EMBLOW 2 M Manchester, Lancashire, Dwelling: Newtown Census Place: Ramsey, Huntingdon, England Source: FHL Film 1341383 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1600 Folio 61 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Edward TOSLAND M 53 M Grafton Undwd, Northampton, England Rel: Head Occ: Cordwainer Eliza TOSLAND M 43 F Cape Of Good Hope British Subject Rel: Wife John T. TOSLAND 12 M Ramsey, Huntingdon, England Rel: Son Occ: Labourer Ag Herbert TOSLAND 6 M Ramsey, Huntingdon, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Institution: St Georges School Buckden Rd Census Place: Brampton, Huntingdon, England Source: FHL Film 1341384 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1603 Folio 22 Page 4 Thomas Slingsby NIGHTINGALE U 15 M Robertson, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa Rel: Scholar Occ: Scholar Percy A. NIGHTINGALE U 13 M Robertson, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa Rel: Scholar Occ: Scholar Lacy G. NIGHTINGALE U 12 M Robertson, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa Rel: Scholar Occ: Scholar Dwelling: Crown St Census Place: St Ives, Huntingdon, England Source: FHL Film 1341385 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1608 Folio 33 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John FRANK W 72 M St Ives, Huntingdon, England Rel: Head Occ: Insurance Agent Lilla Maud FRANK 8 F Cape Colony Kimbali (sic Kimberley) Rel: Gd Daur Occ: Scholar Jane ABBOTT U 55 F Bluntisham, Huntingdon, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housekeeper Dwelling: East Street Census Place: St Ives, Huntingdon, England Source: FHL Film 1341385 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1608 Folio 74 Page 36 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Eliza CLAYTON W 64 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England Rel: Head Occ: Drapers Widow Eliza CLAYTON U 36 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England Rel: Daur Occ: Drapers Daur Margaret CLAYTON U 28 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England Rel: Daur Occ: Governess (Teacher) William Hughes FRANK 6 M Cape Town, South Africa Rel: Grandson Occ: Scholar Harold CHAMBERS 9 M London Pimlico, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar Harriet MASTERSON U 16 F St Ives, Huntingdon, England Rel: Serv Occ: Domestic Servant Dwelling: 33 St Cuthbert St Census Place: Bedford St Cuthbert, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1618 Folio 6 Page 5 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Emily HAWKES W 47 F Bengal, India Rel: Head Occ: Officers Widow Florence HAWKES 14 F Cape Colony, Africa Rel: Dau Laura HAYWARD 18 F London, Middlesex, England Rel: Serv Occ: Serv Dwelling: 6 Grove Place Census Place: Bedford St Cuthbert, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1618 Folio 18 Page 29 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William H. GREEN M 71 M Woolwich, Kent, England Rel: Head Occ: Retd Civil Serv Officer Anne E.K. GREEN M 70 F Barbadoes, West Indies Rel: Wife William H.E. KNAPP 16 M Cape Colony King William Town Rel: Grandson Charlotte WALKER U 24 F Yelding, Bedford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Serv Dwelling: 1 Park Road Census Place: Bedford St Peter, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1618 Folio 100 Page 46 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Oliff DE WITT M 62 M Cape Town Rel: Head Occ: Major Retired Annie DE WITT M 38 F Dublin, Ireland Rel: Wife Lilias DE WITT U 16 F (F), France Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Oliff DE WITT 12 M Dublin, Ireland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Hamlet DE WITT 9 M Dublin, Ireland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Elizabeth BENNETT U 18 F Banbury Rel: Servant Occ: Domestic Servant Dwelling: 21 Offa St Census Place: Bedford St Peter, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 7 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Jane DENTON W 65 F Goldington Chase, Northampton, England Rel: Head Occ: Retired Upholsterers Elizabeth PACK U 17 F Pertenhall, Huntingdon, England Rel: Servant Occ: Domestic Servant George H. MARSHALL M 64 M Pitsford, Northampton, England Rel: Lodger Occ: Retired Civil Service Cape Good Hope Mary Lombard MARSHALL M 49 F Cape Good Hope Capetown Rel: Lodger Occ: None Dwelling: 51 Ashburnham Rd Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 73 Page 38 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Francis E.M. COLQUHOUN W 39 F Cape Of Good Hope Rel: Head Occ: Annuitant Sophia M. COLQUHOUN U 19 F Cape Of Good Hope Rel: Daur Frances K. COLQUHOUN U 18 F St Helena Rel: Daur Francis COLQUHOUN U 15 M St Helena Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick C. COLQUHOUN 13 M Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Henry GOMPERTY 12 M India Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar Ellen GOMPERTY 11 F India Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar Kathleen GOMPERTY 9 F India Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar Frank GOMPERTY 7 M India Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar Richard GOMPERTY 4 M India Rel: Boarder Annie NORMAN U 23 F Northill, Bedford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Cook(Domestic Serv) Susan KINNES U 20 F Marston, Bedford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housemaid Domestic Serv Dwelling: 44 Ashburnham Rd Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 73 Page 38 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George W. BACON M 51 M Buckingham, England Rel: Head Occ: Retired Farmer Maria BACON M 51 F Dorset, England Rel: Wife Occ: Retired Farmers Wife Maria S. BACON U 22 F Cape Colony, South Africa Rel: Daur Walter L. BACON U 18 M Cape Colony, South Africa Rel: Son Sidney W. BACON U 16 M Orange Free State, South Africa Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Alice C. BACON 13 F Orange Free State, South Africa Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Arthur H. BACON 11 M Cape Colony, South Africa Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Edwin J. BACON 9 M Cape Colony, South Africa Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Annie BARKER W 19 F Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Cook(Domestic Serv) Sarah A. GINN U 14 F Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housemaid(Domestic Serv) Dwelling: No 3 Crescent Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 81 Page 53 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert TALBOT M 60 M (BSB), At Sea Rel: Head Occ: Army Officer Major General R A Retired List Anna S. TALBOT M 55 F Bombay, India Rel: Wife Mabel TALBOT U 15 F Cape Of Good Hope Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mary TALBOT 12 F Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Susan LOFTS U 51 F Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Cook (Domestic Serv) Mary BLAKESLEY U 24 F Wold, Northampton, England Rel: Serv Occ: Parlormaid (Domestic Serv) Millicant SMITH U 16 F Diddington, Huntingdon, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housemaid (Domestic Serv) Dwelling: 31 Canning Street Census Place: Bedford St Peter, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 92 Page 13 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Joseph BIRD M 44 M Kempston, Bedford, England Rel: Head Occ: Carter Jane BIRD M 43 F Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Wife George BIRD U 19 M Cape G. Hope, South Africa Rel: Son Occ: Carter John BIRD U 17 M Cape G. Hope, South Africa Rel: Son Occ: Bricklayers Laborer Elizabeth BIRD U 15 F Cape G. Hope, South Africa Rel: Daugh. Hannah BIRD 9 F Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Daugh. Occ: Scholar Sarah BIRD 7 F Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Daugh. Occ: Scholar Thomas BIRD 5 M Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Ellen BIRD 3 F Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Daugh. Dwelling: 131 Tavistock St Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341387 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1619 Folio 98 Page 26 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Sarah DOUGLAS DE FERNZI W 45 F River, Kent, England Rel: Head Occ: Income (Interest On Money) Charles DOUGLAS DE FERNZI U 17 M King Williamtown, South Africa Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Charlotte DOUGLAS DE FERNZI 13 F Port Elizabeth Cape, South Africa Rel: Daug Occ: Scholar Flora DOUGLAS DE FERNZI 11 F Port Elizabeth Cape, South Africa Rel: Daugh Occ: Scholar Dwelling: The Hoo Census Place: Kempston, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1621 Folio 54 Page 5 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert O. CAMPBELL M 64 M Dunfermline, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Banker & Director Standard Life Ass Co Elizabeth C. CAMPBELL M 44 F Cape Of Good Hope Rel: Wife Katharine J. CAMPBELL U 23 F Madras, India Rel: Daur Florence N. CAMPBELL U 19 F Madras, India Rel: Daur Robert V. D. CAMPBELL U 15 M Dumbartonshire, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Herbert N. C. CAMPBELL U 10 M Sutton, Bedford, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Charles D. O. CAMPBELL U 7 M Sutton, Bedford, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Elizabeth MAKENZIE U 35 F Scotland, Scotland Rel: Niece Margaret MACKENZIE U 19 F Scotland, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Niece William BRINCOURT (?) U 30 M Mitcham, Surrey, England Rel: Butler Occ: Butler James HARTWELL U 24 M Turvey, Bedford, England Rel: Sert Occ: Groom John FEAST U 17 M Hackney, Middlesex, England Rel: Sert Occ: Footman Lousia BONIFACE U 22 F Pevensey, Sussex, England Rel: Sert Occ: Cook Margret JOHNSON U 30 F Arlesey, Bedford, England Rel: Sert Occ: Housemaid Harriett G. FOSTER U 28 F Kempston, Bedford, England Rel: Sert Occ: Nursery Maid Alice J. SAYER U 16 F Lowestoft, Suffolk, England Rel: Sert Occ: Kitchen Maid Dwelling: 24 Muswell Road Census Place: Bedford St Mary, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1622 Folio 53 Page 2 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mary WHITFIELD M 44 F Ely, Cambridge, England Rel: Head Occ: Supported By Husband Now At The Cape Thomas J. WHITFIELD 11 M Ely, Cambridge, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Dwelling: 40 Bromham Rd Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 33 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Jennetta H. SMITH W 46 F Cape Of Good Hope Rel: Head Arthur F. SMITH U 19 M Dalston, Middlesex, England Rel: Son Occ: Undergraduate Of London University Mary A. SMITH 15 F Clapton, Middlesex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Charles L. SMITH 13 M Hythe, Kent, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Harold F. SMITH 9 M Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Agnes A. SMITH 3 F Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Daur Ada E. BOWLER U 17 F Elstow, Bedford, England Rel: Serv Occ: General Servant Domestic Dwelling: 15 Prebend St Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 86 Page 17 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Frederick KNEEBONE M 51 M Mauritius Rel: Head Occ: Major (Retired) 8Th Infantry S Bedford Henrietta KNEEBONE M 50 F Cape Of G. Hope Rel: Wife Occ: Wife Of Major (Retired) 8Th Infantry S Bedford Henrietta M. KNEEBONE U 20 F Rhyl, Wales Rel: Daur Occ: No Occupation Annie E. KNEEBONE U 18 F Preston, Lancashire, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Frederick S.T.L. KNEEBONE 15 M Malta Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Frederick W. KNEEBONE 12 M Canada Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Gertrude J. KNEEBONE 8 F Bedford, Bedford, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mary D. SMITH W 84 F Greenwich, Kent, England Rel: Mother In Law Occ: Army Pensioner Dwelling: 1 Ashburnham Rd Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 123 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert RICHARDS M 45 M Cape Colony Rel: Head Occ: Advocate Or Barrister Not In Practice Sarah Frances RICHARDS M 45 F Cape Colony Rel: Wife George Robert RICHARDS 15 M Natal, South Africa Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Kate RICHARDS 13 F Natal, South Africa Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Harry RICHARDS 8 M Natal, South Africa Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Jane COLES U 23 F Swineshead, Huntingdon, England Rel: Servant Occ: General Serv Dwelling: 37 Ashburnham Rd Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 125 Page 5 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Emma M. B. HOGGE W 58 F Calcutta, India Rel: Head Occ: Annuitant Henry S. HOGGE U 16 M Erith, Kent, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Mary R. HOGGE U 18 F Dartmouth, Devon, England Rel: Daur Effie F. HOGGE 5 F Meubello Punjab, India Rel: Grand Daur Alice M. HOGGE W 28 F NB , Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur In Law Susie M. F. VAN BREDA U 19 F Cape Town Cape Colony Rel: Visitor Elizabeth CRISP U 40 F Swettisham, Norfolk, England Rel: Serv Occ: Ladys Maid Elizabeth PONTING M 28 F Chorlton, Kent, England Rel: Visitor Occ: Ladys Maid Annie TODD U 21 F London Paddington, London, Middlesex, England Rel: Serv Occ: Genl Serv Dwelling: 6 The Avenue Census Place: Bedford St Paul, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341388 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1623 Folio 128 Page 11 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William H. UNDERWOOD M 62 M Cape Of Good Hope Rel: Head Occ: Landed Proprietor Cecilia M. UNDERWOOD M 47 F Stratton, Wiltshire, England Rel: Wife Cecil A.D. UNDERWOOD 13 M Somerby, Lincoln, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Claude A. UNDERWOOD 7 M Somerby, Lincoln, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Septimus C. UNDERWOOD 6 M Somerby, Lincoln, England Rel: Son Eleanor UNDERWOOD U 23 F Somerby, Lincoln, England Rel: Daur Constance UNDERWOOD U 22 F Somerby, Lincoln, England Rel: Daur Mabel C. UNDERWOOD U 15 F Somerby, Lincoln, England Rel: Daur Winifred A. UNDERWOOD 9 F Somerby, Lincoln, England Rel: Daur Sarah STEVENS 39 F Wilstead, Bedford, England Rel: Serv Occ: Cook Domestic Anne ALOTT 50 F Coleshill, Berkshire, England Rel: Serv Occ: Nurse Domestic Eliza A. RICHARDSON 29 F Mount Pleasant, Lincoln, England Rel: Serv Occ: Parlour Maid Domestic Sarah J. JOHNSON 22 F Woodenderby Fen, Lincoln, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housemaid Domestic Dwelling: North St Reading Room Census Place: Leighton Buzzard, Bedford, England Source: FHL Film 1341392 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1640 Folio 70 Page 30 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John MC INTOSH M 42 M Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Manager Of Working Mans Club Lydia MC INTOSH M 42 F Ashdon, Essex, England Rel: Wife Jessie M. MC INTOSH U 16 F Cape Town, South Africa Rel: Daur Occ: Drapers Assistant Emily G. MC INTOSH U 14 F Cape Town, South Africa Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Lydia M. MC INTOSH U 12 F Chatham, Kent, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Dwelling: 55 Corpus Blds Census Place: St Benedict, Cambridge, Cambridge, England Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1668 Folio 7 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William E. THURTELL U 25 M Oxburgh, Norfolk, England Rel: Lodger (Head) Occ: Graduate Of Cambridge Univy & Student Of Medicine George A.E. MURRAY U 19 M Graaf Reinet, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa Rel: Visitor Occ: Student Of Medicine Dwelling: Silver St St Catherine Coll Census Place: St Botolph, Cambridge, Cambridge, England Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1668 Folio 33 Page 12 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles K ROBINSON M 54 M Acomb, York, England Rel: Head Margaret C.M. ROBINSON M 53 F Off Cape Good Hope At Sea Rel: Wife Mary S. ROBINSON U 12 F Norwich Rel: Daughter Dwelling: 4 Downing Pl Census Place: St Andrew the Great, Cambridge, Cambridge, England Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1669 Folio 31 Page 56 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Rebeca RICKARD U 80 F Cambridge, England Rel: Head John C. RICKARD W 44 M Cambridge, England Rel: Nephew Occ: Comcl. Clerk Annie R. RICKARD 11 F Cape of Good Hope, South Africa Rel: Niece Occ: Scholar Elizabeth E. GOODENOUGH U 15 F Cambridge, England Rel: Sert Occ: Genl Sert Dwelling: 55 Rhad. Build. Jesus Lane Census Place: All Saints, Cambridge, Cambridge, England Source: FHL Film 1341399 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1669 Folio 98 Page 23 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William WALKER M 52 M Gayton, Norfolk, England Rel: Head Occ: College Servant Harriett WALKER M 54 F Bumburgh, Suffolk, England Rel: Wife Arthur A. WALKER U 25 M Cambridge, England Rel: Son Occ: Law Student Alfred WALKER U 24 M Cambridge, England Rel: Son Occ: Teacher of Music Elizabeth R. CHAPMAN U 16 F Cambridge, England Rel: Serv. Occ: General Servant James HEALD U 21 M Halewood, Lancashire, England Rel: Lodger Occ: Student William H.M. RICHARDS U 19 M Cape Colony Rel: Lodger Occ: Student N.A. MOORE U 21 M Hendon, Middlesex, England Rel: Lodger Occ: Student Dwelling: Common Muckhill Census Place: Ely Holy Trinity & St Mary, Cambridge, England Source: FHL Film 1341402 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1684 Folio 44 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Reuben VAUGHAN M 39 M Ely, Cambridge, England Rel: Head Occ: Labourer Agri. Annie Elizabeth VAUGHAN M 37 F Brafferton, York, England Rel: Wife Annie Elizth. Alice VAUGHAN 15 F (At Sea) Indian Ocean Rel: Daur Augustis Rewben VAUGHAN 13 M Grahams Town Cape Rel: Son Occ: (Scholar) Sarah Robinson VAUGHAN 11 F Ely, Cambridge, England Rel: Daur Occ: (Scholar) Theadore VAUGHAN 9 M Ely, Cambridge, England Rel: Son Occ: (Scholar) Richd.Rodd Theoffilis VAUGHAN 3 M Ely, Cambridge, England Rel: Son Occ: (Scholar) Dwelling: Gorefield Road Census Place: Leverington, Cambridge, England Source: FHL Film 1341404 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1694 Folio 12 Page 17 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Frederick CARLYON M 65 M Truro, Cornwall, England Rel: Head Occ: Rector of Leverington Lucy CARLYON M 55 F Truro, Cornwall, England Rel: Wife Occ: Rectors Wife Harriet C. CARLYON U 26 F Cape of Good Hope Rel: Daur Occ: Rectors Daughter Hester M. CARLYON U 20 F Cape of Good Hope Rel: Daur Occ: Rectors Daughter Edmund L. CARLYON 17 M Stoodleigh, Devon, England Rel: Son Occ: Rectors Son Alice RANDS U 30 F Whittlesea, Cambridge, England Rel: Servant Occ: Cook Domestic Ser Mary WRIGHT U 24 F Newton, Cambridge, England Rel: Servant Occ: Housemaid Dom Ser Dwelling: Hawstead House Census Place: Hawstead, Suffolk, England Source: FHL Film 1341444 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1837 Folio 8 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mary METCALF M 51 F Cape Colony, South Africa Rel: Wife (Head) Occ: None Francis BOOTH M 30 F Cape Colony, South Africa Rel: Daur Occ: None Frederica METCALF 5 F Cape Colony, South Africa Rel: Grand Daur Occ: None Ada HOULE U 20 F Cape Colony, South Africa Rel: Niece Occ: None Dwelling: Census Place: Chedburgh, Suffolk, England Source: FHL Film 1341444 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1837 Folio 51 Page 9 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Henry Ingate KILNER U 30 M Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Rel: Head Occ: Rector Of Chedburgh Kate BAILEY W 58 F Ceylon Rel: Visitor Occ: Housekeeper Eliza C. RITCHE W 52 F Cape Of Good Hope, Africa Rel: Visitor Occ: Visitor Susannah HARVEY U 27 F Pakenham, Suffolk, England Rel: Serv Occ: Cook Mary A. CLARKE U 20 F Woolpit, Suffolk, England Rel: Serv Occ: Housemaid Dwelling: 3 Athenaum Lane Census Place: Bury St Edmunds St Mary, Suffolk, England Source: FHL Film 1341445 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1842 Folio 7 Page 7 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Henry P. FINCHAM M 58 M Bury St Eds, Suffolk, England Rel: Head Occ: Allowance From A Friend Jane B. FINCHAM M 57 F Cape Colony Grahams Town Rel: Wife Robert H. FINCHAM U 18 M Diss, Norfolk, England Rel: Son Occ: Railway Clerk Unemp Alfred J. FINCHAM 14 M Diss, Norfolk, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Institution: "Grammar School" 18 Northgate St Census Place: Bury St Edmunds St James, Suffolk, England Source: FHL Film 1341446 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1844 Folio 23 Page 2 William M. EUSTACE U 16 M Cape Town, South Africa Rel: Boarder Occ: Scholar Dwelling: No 5 West Street Census Place: Mildenhall, Suffolk, England Source: FHL Film 1341447 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1846 Folio 92 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert GOODRICH M 71 M Mildenhall, Suffolk, England Rel: Head Occ: Farmer 100 Acres 5 Men Maria L. GOODRICH M 63 F Mildenhall, Suffolk, England Rel: Wife Catherine A. GOODRICH U 41 F Mildenhall, Suffolk, England Rel: Daur Annie SCATES W 35 F Middleton, Suffolk, England Rel: Niece Occ: Annuitant Ester SCATES 5 F Cape Good Hope, Africa Rel: Gt Niece Eliza LEONARD U 30 F Mildenhall, Suffolk, England Rel: Servt Occ: General Servt Hannah GREEN U 16 F Worlington, Suffolk, England Rel: Servt Occ: General Servt Dwelling: St Mathews "Berners St" Census Place: Ipswich St Mathew, Suffolk, England Source: FHL Film 1341451 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1868 Folio 29 Page 20 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mary BIDWELL U 36 F Norwich, Norfolk, England Rel: Head Occ: Schoolmistress (Private) Louisa JEAFFERSON W 38 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England Rel: Visitor Occ: Annuitant Helen Edith COTMAN 9 F Cape Colony, Africa Rel: Boarder ((Pupil)) Occ: Scholar Esther READE U 19 F Woodbridge, Suffolk, England Rel: Serv Occ: General Servant "Domestic" Dwelling: 6 Ann St Census Place: Ipswich St Mathew, Suffolk, England Source: FHL Film 1341451 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1869 Folio 54 Page 21 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Richard BARLOW M 58 M Elmira, Stafford, England Rel: Head Occ: Staff Sgant Major Battery Suffolk Artillery (Vol Sold) Elizabeth BARLOW M 52 F Capetown Cape Of Good Hope Rel: Wife Elizabeth BARLOW 19 F Harwich, Essex, England Rel: Daur Occ: Dressmaker Thomas BARLOW 16 M Harwich, Essex, England Rel: Son Occ: Apprentice Printer Compositor Harry K. BARLOW 14 M Harwich, Essex, England Rel: Son Occ: Suffolk Battry Band (Soldr) Ann C. BARLOW 11 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England Rel: Daur Occ: (Military) Scholar Dwelling: Norwich Road Census Place: Ipswich St Mathew, Suffolk, England Source: FHL Film 1341452 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1870 Folio 34 Page 25 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Arthur HILL M 47 M Shirehampton, Gloucester, England Rel: Head Occ: Genl Practitioner M.R.C.S. Eng Ellen HILL M 35 F London, Middlesex, England Rel: Wife Mary HILL 12 F Namayupland, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Robt.H.M. HILL 11 M Namayupland, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Arthur R. HILL 9 M Woodbridge, Suffolk, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Tryphosa HILL 7 F Blakesley, Northampton, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Esther F. HILL 6 F Peddie, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Agnes DADE U 16 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England Rel: Serv Occ: Genl Serv (Domestic) Dwelling: 49 Alms Houses Census Place: Shire Hall Yard, Suffolk, England Source: FHL Film 1341452 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1873 Folio 19 Page 32 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Matilda CHAPLIN W 67 F Ipswich, Suffolk, England Rel: Head Occ: Bible Woman Elizabeth K. PLUMB U 22 F Cape Of Good Hope, Africa Rel: Neice Occ: Dyers Finisher Dwelling: Waterside Census Place: Saxelby With Ingleby, Lincoln, England Source: FHL Film 1341773 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3245 Folio 55 Page 13 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Benjamin WHITE M 60 M Widnerpool, Nottingham, England Rel: Head Occ: Joiner Betsy WHITE M 56 F Saxilby, Lincoln, England Rel: Wife Glen SCORGIE M 35 M Hull, York, England Rel: Son Occ: Merchant Ann SCORGIE M 34 F Saxilby, Lincoln, England Rel: Daur Glen W. SCORGIE 7 M Transvaal, Africa Rel: Gr Son Occ: Scholar Mildred SCORGIE 6 F Transvaal, Africa Rel: Gr Daur Occ: Scholar Annie SCORGIE 4 F Saxilby, Lincoln, England Rel: Gr Daur Occ: Scholar Alexander SCORGIE 2 M Transvaal, Africa Rel: Gr Son Mary HARDY U 21 F Lincoln, Lincoln, England Rel: Governess Occ: Governess (Teacher) Elizabeth GUYLEE U 16 F Rel: Servant Occ: Servant Clara WHIT-BOOY U 16 F Africa Rel: Servant Occ: Nursemaid Heather's South African Genealogy Help List at www.genealogy.co.za has moved to www.ancestry.mweb.co.za and soon to www.familytree.co.za Join the Cape Town Family History Society www.ancestors.co.za/society/socweb.htm

Onteresting set of names as I knew of a John Gardener that worked in the Transport Industry9fruit and veg) in Brisbane Australia and secondly my gf was Ruffina Scott with a brother Walter who lived in Stellenbosch Cape Town and was said to come from Saint Helena Island. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gardiner, John (J.S.)" <jgardin2@ford.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] GARDINER > > Hello everyone, > > This is my first posting to the list. > > My name is JOHN GARDINER and I'm trying to find out more about my great, > great grandfather, THOMAS GARDINER, and his family and descendants. > This is perhaps a slightly unusual genealogical enquiry as Thomas > actually emigrated from rather than to South Africa. > > Thomas Gardiner is believed to have been born in the Cape in 1857 > (according to the UK Census of 1901 he was 44). Thomas seems to have > arrived in the UK sometime in the late 19th Century from South Africa, > and most probably the Cape, and started a fruit and veg business with > shops in Southwark, London and Portsmouth importing produce from the > Cape, presumably from family or past associates. I have a photograph of > Thomas and some of his children who were born in London (including my > great-grandmother). Though Thomas married an English / Irish lady and > looks "colonial" if you'll kindly forgive the expression, his children > do appear to have some Cape Malay or Coloured facial features and skin > tone. Thomas died in London in 1927 > > There's also a connection to WALTER GARDINER of St Helena who seems to > have been born in Cape Town in 1895, possibly to a HENRY GARDINER(?) and > a mother whose surname was SCOTT. Walter's mother died giving birth to > him and he was subsequently sent to St Helena to live with his maternal > grandfather. I have managed to trace Walter's surviving grandson, > MALCOLM GARDINER, a Saint who know lives in the UK. Interestingly, one > of Thomas's daughters, LOUISA GARDINER, (my great-grandmother's sister) > is believed to have left London to marry Walter who was supposedly her > second cousin. Therefore, we assume there must be some connection > emanating from their South African roots between Thomas and Walter. > > Any information on Thomas, Walter or any other Gardiner family link in > the Cape region would be very much welcome. > > Many thanks and kind regards to you all. > > John Gardiner > > E-mail: jgardin2@ford.com or john@thegardinerhome.freeserve.co.uk > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List > www.genealogy.co.za > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hello everyone, This is my first posting to the list. My name is JOHN GARDINER and I'm trying to find out more about my great, great grandfather, THOMAS GARDINER, and his family and descendants. This is perhaps a slightly unusual genealogical enquiry as Thomas actually emigrated from rather than to South Africa. Thomas Gardiner is believed to have been born in the Cape in 1857 (according to the UK Census of 1901 he was 44). Thomas seems to have arrived in the UK sometime in the late 19th Century from South Africa, and most probably the Cape, and started a fruit and veg business with shops in Southwark, London and Portsmouth importing produce from the Cape, presumably from family or past associates. I have a photograph of Thomas and some of his children who were born in London (including my great-grandmother). Though Thomas married an English / Irish lady and looks "colonial" if you'll kindly forgive the expression, his children do appear to have some Cape Malay or Coloured facial features and skin tone. Thomas died in London in 1927 There's also a connection to WALTER GARDINER of St Helena who seems to have been born in Cape Town in 1895, possibly to a HENRY GARDINER(?) and a mother whose surname was SCOTT. Walter's mother died giving birth to him and he was subsequently sent to St Helena to live with his maternal grandfather. I have managed to trace Walter's surviving grandson, MALCOLM GARDINER, a Saint who know lives in the UK. Interestingly, one of Thomas's daughters, LOUISA GARDINER, (my great-grandmother's sister) is believed to have left London to marry Walter who was supposedly her second cousin. Therefore, we assume there must be some connection emanating from their South African roots between Thomas and Walter. Any information on Thomas, Walter or any other Gardiner family link in the Cape region would be very much welcome. Many thanks and kind regards to you all. John Gardiner E-mail: jgardin2@ford.com or john@thegardinerhome.freeserve.co.uk

Hello Peter Welcome to the Cape Town Mailing List I suggest you search the National Archives web site at www.national.archives.gov.za where you can search on line for death notices, estate papers, wills, divorces, legal proceedings, immigration etc etc You cannot however view or order these documents on line but will either have to contact the archives personally or pay a researcher. I found 205 references to this name. Here are a few examples SELECT SOURCE VOLUME NO REFERENCE DESCRIPTION BEGIN DATE END DATE GH 1/177 24 PAPERS RECEIVED FROM SECRETARY OF STATE, LONDON: GENERAL 1846 1846 MOOC 7/1/312 87 CROCKETT, EDWARD CHARLES. CODICIL. 1854 1854 MOOC 7/1/312 87 GIRD, SUSANNA MARIA. WIFE OF EDWARD CHARLES CROCKETT. CODICIL. 1854 1854 MOOC 7/1/312 88 CROCKETT, EDWARD CHARLES. WILL. 1854 1854 MOOC 7/1/312 88 GIRD, SUSANNA MARIA. WIFE OF EDWARD CHARLES CROCKETT. WILL. 1854 1854 MOOC 6/9/149 1123 CROCKETT, EDWARD CHARLES. DEATH NOTICE. 1874 1874 MOOC 13/1/317 4 CROCKETT, EDWARD CHARLES. LIQUIDATION AND DISTRIBUTION ACCOUNTS. 1875 1875 MOOC 13/1/889 124 CROCKETT, EDWARD CHARLES. LIQUIDATION AND DISTRIBUTION ACCOUNT. 1899 1899 RSC 1/5/342 11/1923 ILLIQUID CASE. EDWARD SARIF, ADRIAN SAMUEL DOUBELL AND WILLIAM 1920 1924 MHG 2640/61 CROCKETT, VIOLET ANNIE. BORN HOCKEY. 1961 1961 MHG 0 5230/52 CROCKETT, EDWARD FRANCIS ERNEST. 1952 1952 MHG 0 1286/56 ASPRAY, THELMA HOPE. BORN CROCKETT. 1956 1956 WLD 0 332/1933 EX PARTE APPLICATION. HENRY LAURENCE CROCKETT IN RE INSOLVENT ESTATE 1933 1933 SELECT SOURCE VOLUME NO REFERENCE DESCRIPTION BEGIN DATE END DATE RSC 1/5/342 11/1923 ILLIQUID CASE. EDWARD SARIF, ADRIAN SAMUEL DOUBELL AND WILLIAM 1920 1924 CJC 786 296 CLAIMS FOR COMPENSATION. BURGHERS. JOHANNESBURG. GEORGE BAMBRIDGE 1903 1903 MHG 0 25685 CROCKETT, GEORGE BAINBRIDGE. 1914 1914 MHG 0 50743 REEVES, LILIAN GERTRUDE. (BORN JUBY). 1923 1923 MMB 36 DRK972/05 INSOLVENT ESTATE OF WILLIAM GEORGE CROCKETT. 1905 1905 WLD 0 11/1904 ILLIQUID CASE PAYMENT GEORGE LOWE VERSUS GB CROCKETT. 1904 1904 WLD 0 298/1905 EX PARTE APPLICATION. WILLIAM GEORGE CROCKETT. 1905 1905 WLD 5/84 625/1906 OPPOSED APPLICATION. ALBERT HENRY WESTON VERSUS GEORGE BAINBRIDGE 1906 1906 HG 4/2/2/1/14 39/1906 CIVIL RECORD. TRIAL. GEORGE FREDERICK HOY AND ARTHUR HERBERT 1906 1906 DEPOT Genealogical Society of SA, Peter Holden DESCRIPTION Crockett, HL - Gravestone. STARTING 0000 ENDING 19640122 REMARKS St. Thomas's Cemetery, Durban, Natal. Compiler: T Jansen, 1988. SUMMARY + Henry Laurence Crockett. Died 22-01-1964. Aged 86 years. Husband of Florence Mary Crockett. Kind regards Heather MacAlister Site Cordinator for: www.ancestry.mweb.co.za www.familytree.co.za www.stamboom.co.za www.genealogy.co.za Learning on Line 46 Hof Street Gardens 8001 Tel: 021-481 8316 -----Original Message----- From: Peter Forrest [mailto:pdjk@chgos.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 01 October 2004 02:07 PM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] CROCKETTs Hi Everyone This is my first e-mail to your lists. My name is Peter Forrest and I live in England. I am trying to trace 2 branches of my CROCKETT ancestors who emigrated to South Africa in the 19th century. While I have been reasonably successful in tracing the family in England I am at a loss as to how to go about it in South Africa! The CROCKETTs originated from Staffordshire, England. The first family to emigrate was: 1 EDWARD CHARLES CROCKETT 1823 - 1874 b: 21 Jun 1823 in Shushions, Staffordshire Baptism: 16 Jul 1823 St Editha's Parish Church, Church Eaton, Staffordshire d: 14 Dec 1874 in Cape Town, South Africa .. +Susanna Maria Gird Unknown - 1870 b: Unknown m: Unknown d: 1870 in Cape Town, South Africa ...... 2 Frederick Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown ...... 2 Katherine Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown ...... 2 Emily Crockett 1865 - Unknown b: Abt. 1865 in Mossel Bay, South Africa d: Unknown ...... 2 George Crockett Unknown - Unknown b: Unknown d: Unknown Edward Charles Crockett is believed to have been a civil commissioner and a collector of Taxes for Mossel Bay, Cape Colony (is that politically correct these days?) The second family emigrated in about 1880 and settled in Durban. They were: 1 HENRY LAWRENCE CROCKETT 1878 - 1964 b: 08 Jan 1878 in Brockingham Green, Surrey d: 22 Jan 1964 in Durban, South Africa, aged 86 Burial: Abt. Jan 1964 St Thomas' Cemetery, Durban, Natal, South Africa .. +Florence Mary Mason 1882 - 1969 b: Bet. Apr - Jun 1882 in London m: Unknown in Durban, South Africa d: 05 Apr 1969 in Durban, South Africa, aged 87 Burial: Abt. Apr 1969 St Thomas' Cemetery, Durban, Natal, South Africa ...... 2 Sybil Crockett Unknown - Unknown b: Unknown d: Unknown ...... 2 Robert Lawrence Crockett Unknown - 1945 b: Unknown d: 1945 ...... 2 Wilfred Gordon Crockett 1911 - 1942 b: Abt. 1911 in South Africa d: 07 Jun 1942 in Acroma, Libya, near Tobruk Burial: Aft. 07 Jun 1942 Knightsbridge War Cemetery, Acroma, Libya ...... 2 Edward Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown .......... +Jill Unknown - b: Unknown m: Unknown .............. 3 Barbara Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown .............. 3 Richard Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown .............. 3 ? Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown I believe Henry Crockett was at one time very involved in South Africa's cricket team (probably around 1925-1935) I would be very gratefully for any help with filling in the gaps and tracing any descendants best wishes Peter Forrest ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Everyone This is my first e-mail to your lists. My name is Peter Forrest and I live in England. I am trying to trace 2 branches of my CROCKETT ancestors who emigrated to South Africa in the 19th century. While I have been reasonably successful in tracing the family in England I am at a loss as to how to go about it in South Africa! The CROCKETTs originated from Staffordshire, England. The first family to emigrate was: 1 EDWARD CHARLES CROCKETT 1823 - 1874 b: 21 Jun 1823 in Shushions, Staffordshire Baptism: 16 Jul 1823 St Editha's Parish Church, Church Eaton, Staffordshire d: 14 Dec 1874 in Cape Town, South Africa .. +Susanna Maria Gird Unknown - 1870 b: Unknown m: Unknown d: 1870 in Cape Town, South Africa ...... 2 Frederick Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown ...... 2 Katherine Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown ...... 2 Emily Crockett 1865 - Unknown b: Abt. 1865 in Mossel Bay, South Africa d: Unknown ...... 2 George Crockett Unknown - Unknown b: Unknown d: Unknown Edward Charles Crockett is believed to have been a civil commissioner and a collector of Taxes for Mossel Bay, Cape Colony (is that politically correct these days?) The second family emigrated in about 1880 and settled in Durban. They were: 1 HENRY LAWRENCE CROCKETT 1878 - 1964 b: 08 Jan 1878 in Brockingham Green, Surrey d: 22 Jan 1964 in Durban, South Africa, aged 86 Burial: Abt. Jan 1964 St Thomas' Cemetery, Durban, Natal, South Africa .. +Florence Mary Mason 1882 - 1969 b: Bet. Apr - Jun 1882 in London m: Unknown in Durban, South Africa d: 05 Apr 1969 in Durban, South Africa, aged 87 Burial: Abt. Apr 1969 St Thomas' Cemetery, Durban, Natal, South Africa ...... 2 Sybil Crockett Unknown - Unknown b: Unknown d: Unknown ...... 2 Robert Lawrence Crockett Unknown - 1945 b: Unknown d: 1945 ...... 2 Wilfred Gordon Crockett 1911 - 1942 b: Abt. 1911 in South Africa d: 07 Jun 1942 in Acroma, Libya, near Tobruk Burial: Aft. 07 Jun 1942 Knightsbridge War Cemetery, Acroma, Libya ...... 2 Edward Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown .......... +Jill Unknown - b: Unknown m: Unknown .............. 3 Barbara Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown .............. 3 Richard Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown .............. 3 ? Crockett Unknown - b: Unknown I believe Henry Crockett was at one time very involved in South Africa's cricket team (probably around 1925-1935) I would be very gratefully for any help with filling in the gaps and tracing any descendants best wishes Peter Forrest

Hi Paxie Thanks so much for this.............what a tragedy hope they manage to salvage the memorabilia and no one was hurt in the fire ? cheers Heather Heather's South African Genealogy Help List at www.genealogy.co.za will be moving on 19th September to www.familytree.co.za Join the Cape Town Family History Society www.ancestors.co.za/society/socweb.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paxie Kelsey" <paxie@global.co.za> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:40 PM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] Wanderers Golf Club For those of you not watching the NZ A side playing the one day cricket vs SA A side ........... the Wanderers Golf Clubhouse is burning down and has been for the past hour or so ..... absolutely tragic - such history and memories gone up in flames! Paxie Kelsey (Mrs) 23 Defiant Avenue, Airfield, Benoni, 1501 Tel: +2711 849 9962 (Home) +2711 849 6705 (Fax) +27829563354 (Cell) email: paxie@global.co.za Tel: +2711 2672511 (Work) +2711 3880701 (Fax) Email: adrienne@branch.co.za ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Heather's South African Genealogy Help List www.genealogy.co.za ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

For those of you not watching the NZ A side playing the one day cricket vs SA A side ........... the Wanderers Golf Clubhouse is burning down and has been for the past hour or so ..... absolutely tragic - such history and memories gone up in flames! Paxie Kelsey (Mrs) 23 Defiant Avenue, Airfield, Benoni, 1501 Tel: +2711 849 9962 (Home) +2711 849 6705 (Fax) +27829563354 (Cell) email: paxie@global.co.za Tel: +2711 2672511 (Work) +2711 3880701 (Fax) Email: adrienne@branch.co.za

Hello all, "Under Lion's Head" is also available via main public libraries and Sydney's Society of Genealogy offices here in Australia too - it's wonderful. Regards Helen New England Oz >From: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest V04 #101 >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:01:31 -0600 > >Content-Type: text/plain > >SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest Volume 04 : Issue 101 > >Today's Topics: > #1 RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] RE: S ["David and Mary Bossenger" ><dmbza@] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D, send a message to > > SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D list administrator, send mail to >SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 04:15:15 +0200 >From: "David and Mary Bossenger" <dmbza@telkomsa.net> >To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <LPBBICELEGBKNAJMNEMEEEEOGHAA.dmbza@telkomsa.net> >Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] RE: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest >V04 #98 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="windows-1255" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Thank you Sharon, > I am well aware of that but the book is freely obtainable for any >library >member in SA on inter library loan. I had it out recently at a cost of R5 >for an inter library loan and found it fascinating and in fact offered on >this list to do look ups from it whilst it was in my possession. >Regards, >David B > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sharon Warr [mailto:snw@absamail.co.za] >Sent: 26 September 2004 08:41 >To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] RE: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest >V04 #98 > > >Hi David and Beryl >There is a CD publication of Under Lion's Head available - see >http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/Scribes.htm >Regards >Sharon > >View 1800s SOUTH AFRICAN PASSENGER LISTS at >http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/DataArchive.htm >SCRIBES PUBLISHING for Colonial Books on CD - visit >http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/Scribes.htm > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David and Mary Bossenger" <dmbza@telkomsa.net> >To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 7:37 PM >Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] RE: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest V04 >#98 > > > > Hi Beryl, > > I have not read the article but the reference to Under Lion's Head must >be >a > > reference to a book that is sadly out of print. To the best of my > > knowledge there is nothing similar wrt the suburbs that you mention. >I > > grew up in that area in the 1950s/ 60s so I know the area well. If you > > wish to know something geographical please ask and I will try to answer. > > Note that it is Oranjezicht and was named as you could see the one >point >of > > the Castle (Oranje) very clearly from it. > > Shalom, > > David B > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Beryl.b [mailto:balden@zahav.net.il] > > Sent: 25 September 2004 12:03 > > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest V04 #98 > > > > > > In your article on "Under Lion's Head" which appeared > > in the Genealogy Digest of 25th September 2004, you > > mention - people, places, events of Sea Point, Green > > Point, Mouille Point etc. > > > > Is there any information available on Gardens, Vredehoek, > > Oranjezict, Devils Peak and Highlands Estate? > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > > > Sincerely > > beryl baleson > > balden@zahav.net.il > > > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > > FamilyTree.co.za.......it's the place to hang out and do your Family >Tree > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Searching for that dream home? Try http://ninemsn.realestate.com.au for all your property needs.

Thank you Sharon, I am well aware of that but the book is freely obtainable for any library member in SA on inter library loan. I had it out recently at a cost of R5 for an inter library loan and found it fascinating and in fact offered on this list to do look ups from it whilst it was in my possession. Regards, David B -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Warr [mailto:snw@absamail.co.za] Sent: 26 September 2004 08:41 To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] RE: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest V04 #98 Hi David and Beryl There is a CD publication of Under Lion's Head available - see http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/Scribes.htm Regards Sharon View 1800s SOUTH AFRICAN PASSENGER LISTS at http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/DataArchive.htm SCRIBES PUBLISHING for Colonial Books on CD - visit http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/Scribes.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Mary Bossenger" <dmbza@telkomsa.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 7:37 PM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] RE: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest V04 #98 > Hi Beryl, > I have not read the article but the reference to Under Lion's Head must be a > reference to a book that is sadly out of print. To the best of my > knowledge there is nothing similar wrt the suburbs that you mention. I > grew up in that area in the 1950s/ 60s so I know the area well. If you > wish to know something geographical please ask and I will try to answer. > Note that it is Oranjezicht and was named as you could see the one point of > the Castle (Oranje) very clearly from it. > Shalom, > David B > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beryl.b [mailto:balden@zahav.net.il] > Sent: 25 September 2004 12:03 > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest V04 #98 > > > In your article on "Under Lion's Head" which appeared > in the Genealogy Digest of 25th September 2004, you > mention - people, places, events of Sea Point, Green > Point, Mouille Point etc. > > Is there any information available on Gardens, Vredehoek, > Oranjezict, Devils Peak and Highlands Estate? > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > Sincerely > beryl baleson > balden@zahav.net.il > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > FamilyTree.co.za.......it's the place to hang out and do your Family Tree > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi David and Beryl There is a CD publication of Under Lion's Head available - see http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/Scribes.htm Regards Sharon View 1800s SOUTH AFRICAN PASSENGER LISTS at http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/DataArchive.htm SCRIBES PUBLISHING for Colonial Books on CD - visit http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/Scribes.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "David and Mary Bossenger" <dmbza@telkomsa.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 7:37 PM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] RE: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest V04 #98 > Hi Beryl, > I have not read the article but the reference to Under Lion's Head must be a > reference to a book that is sadly out of print. To the best of my > knowledge there is nothing similar wrt the suburbs that you mention. I > grew up in that area in the 1950s/ 60s so I know the area well. If you > wish to know something geographical please ask and I will try to answer. > Note that it is Oranjezicht and was named as you could see the one point of > the Castle (Oranje) very clearly from it. > Shalom, > David B > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beryl.b [mailto:balden@zahav.net.il] > Sent: 25 September 2004 12:03 > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest V04 #98 > > > In your article on "Under Lion's Head" which appeared > in the Genealogy Digest of 25th September 2004, you > mention - people, places, events of Sea Point, Green > Point, Mouille Point etc. > > Is there any information available on Gardens, Vredehoek, > Oranjezict, Devils Peak and Highlands Estate? > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > Sincerely > beryl baleson > balden@zahav.net.il > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > FamilyTree.co.za.......it's the place to hang out and do your Family Tree > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Beryl, I have not read the article but the reference to Under Lion's Head must be a reference to a book that is sadly out of print. To the best of my knowledge there is nothing similar wrt the suburbs that you mention. I grew up in that area in the 1950s/ 60s so I know the area well. If you wish to know something geographical please ask and I will try to answer. Note that it is Oranjezicht and was named as you could see the one point of the Castle (Oranje) very clearly from it. Shalom, David B -----Original Message----- From: Beryl.b [mailto:balden@zahav.net.il] Sent: 25 September 2004 12:03 To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-D Digest V04 #98 In your article on "Under Lion's Head" which appeared in the Genealogy Digest of 25th September 2004, you mention - people, places, events of Sea Point, Green Point, Mouille Point etc. Is there any information available on Gardens, Vredehoek, Oranjezict, Devils Peak and Highlands Estate? Looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely beryl baleson balden@zahav.net.il

In your article on "Under Lion's Head" which appeared in the Genealogy Digest of 25th September 2004, you mention - people, places, events of Sea Point, Green Point, Mouille Point etc. Is there any information available on Gardens, Vredehoek, Oranjezict, Devils Peak and Highlands Estate? Looking forward to hearing from you. Sincerely beryl baleson balden@zahav.net.il

Hi Jim Your query regarding Strand Street - yes it still exists and it is in the heart of the Cape Town CBD - so mostly business premises now - I am not sure whether there are any residential buildings in Strand Street at all. The Cape Almanacs (Scribes Publishing - http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/Scribes.htm ) are an incredible source of information and give one a good idea of the social context in which our ancestors lived - Strand Street in the 1800's was, as is indicated by its name, very close to the sea but there were many houses and businesses there - some of the houses still exist but as museums (Koopmans De Wet House and Martin Melck House spring to mind) Regards Sharon View 1800s SOUTH AFRICAN PASSENGER LISTS at http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/DataArchive.htm SCRIBES PUBLISHING for Colonial Books on CD - visit http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/Scribes.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Westell" <jwestell@netrover.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:56 AM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] George Paton > Heather & Dunia: Thank you for the information and the offer of assistance. From the information provided by Heather I have a couple of questions. > 1) Is the Somerset Road Cemetery still in existence? If so how can I contact them to get the plot numbers etc. > 2) Concerning the death record of MJC Paton, nee Prys a notice is provided (see Peter Philip: British Residents at the Cape) Is this a book or a reference work? Is this available via the internet or would it be available in say the main library of Cape Town? > 3) From the family records that I have it indicates the George Ponty Paton died at 16 Strand St. I am assuming that this is a residence but am I correct? Does the street still exist and is it still a residential area? > 4) For genealogy research is there a particular library or archive that I should go to in Cape Town? > > Again thanks for the information. Any further information or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to visiting Cape Town > > Jim Westell > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Cape Town Family History Society > www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hello Dunia Thanks very much for the reply. Sorry Somerset Road Cemetery has been gone since I arrived on this planet and that is almost half a century ago. I have the plot numbers somewhere but if you can remind me next will I will have a look as I am going away. With reference to Peter Philips book his references at the back correspond to documents in the Cape Town Archives. You can search the National Archives web site at www.national.archives.gov.za but many thousands of documents are not indexed on their site but are in hard copy inventories. Can view or order any documents on this web site but will only be given a brief description. You will then either have to write to the archives or pay a private researcher. Strand Street is no longer a residential Street and has not been for probably more than half a century. The very section of a few small blocks however do have some residential homes. Strand Street is one of the main thoroughfare roads of the city centre of Cape Town and companies are starting to turn the top floors of the buildings in to very expensive apartments - stunning place to live. The Cape Town Archives and the National Library in Cape Town are just some of the places to go to. kind regards Heather kind regards Heather Heather's South African Genealogy Help List at www.genealogy.co.za will be moving on 19th September to www.familytree.co.za Join the Cape Town Family History Society www.ancestors.co.za/society/socweb.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Westell" <jwestell@netrover.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 4:56 AM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] George Paton Heather & Dunia: Thank you for the information and the offer of assistance. From the information provided by Heather I have a couple of questions. 1) Is the Somerset Road Cemetery still in existence? If so how can I contact them to get the plot numbers etc. 2) Concerning the death record of MJC Paton, nee Prys a notice is provided (see Peter Philip: British Residents at the Cape) Is this a book or a reference work? Is this available via the internet or would it be available in say the main library of Cape Town? 3) From the family records that I have it indicates the George Ponty Paton died at 16 Strand St. I am assuming that this is a residence but am I correct? Does the street still exist and is it still a residential area? 4) For genealogy research is there a particular library or archive that I should go to in Cape Town? Again thanks for the information. Any further information or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to visiting Cape Town Jim Westell ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Heather & Dunia: Thank you for the information and the offer of assistance. From the information provided by Heather I have a couple of questions. 1) Is the Somerset Road Cemetery still in existence? If so how can I contact them to get the plot numbers etc. 2) Concerning the death record of MJC Paton, nee Prys a notice is provided (see Peter Philip: British Residents at the Cape) Is this a book or a reference work? Is this available via the internet or would it be available in say the main library of Cape Town? 3) From the family records that I have it indicates the George Ponty Paton died at 16 Strand St. I am assuming that this is a residence but am I correct? Does the street still exist and is it still a residential area? 4) For genealogy research is there a particular library or archive that I should go to in Cape Town? Again thanks for the information. Any further information or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to visiting Cape Town Jim Westell

Hello Jim George Paton was born in Scotland and married in Cape Town on 27/11/1819 to Magdalena Johanna Preiss (sic) - she was baptised on 4/8/1793 and was the daughter of F Preiss.(sic) Death notices can be searched for on the National Archives web site at www.national.archives.gov.za - you will however only be given a brief description of the document and will not be able to view it or order it over the internet. You will either have to contact the archives directly or pay a researcher. Marriage records, unless you know exactly which church they were married in, is a bit more difficult. Marriage registers are housed in the National records as well as different parish records but not all. There is no official civil registration list in South Africa which can be consulted via the internet. The main older cemeteries around Cape Town are long gone but records are still around. I found these cemetery recordings for you: George Ponty PATON died on 15 Feb 1827. George was buried in Somerset Road Cemetery,Cape Town,District Cape,Western Cape, Rsa. George Ponty Paton. Died 15-02-1827. Aged 3 months and 22 days. Son of George Paton and MJC Prys. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mjc PRYS died on 27 Oct 1828. Mjc was buried in Somerset Road Cemetery,Cape Town,District Cape,Western Cape, Rsa. MJC Paton, nee Prys. Died 27-10-1828. Aged 35 years, 1 month and 27 days. Wife of Lt. George Paton. (See Peter Philip: British Residents at the Cape). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martha Elizabeth PATON died on 31 Jan 1825. Martha was buried in Somerset Road Cemetery,Cape Town,District Cape,Western Cape, Rsa. Martha Elizabeth Paton. Died 31-01-1825. Aged 1 year, 3 months and 11 days. Daughter of George Paton and MJCPrys. Don't forget to try the newest South Afican Genealogy web site www.familytree.co.za on 22nd September or http://ancestry.mweb.co.za kind regards Heather Heather's South African Genealogy Help List at www.genealogy.co.za will be moving on 19th September to www.familytree.co.za Join the Cape Town Family History Society www.ancestors.co.za/society/socweb.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Westell" <jwestell@netrover.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 4:01 AM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] George Paton I am looking for information on George Paton and his family. George was a Lieutenant in the Cape Mounted Rifles and married Magdalene Johanna Cornelia Prys, probably prior to 1820. They had 5 children all born in Cape Town; Alexander Prys, (B. Sept 8, 1820); Martha Elizabeth, (B. Oct 20, 1823, D. at Sea Point S.A. Jan 31, 1828); Dorothea, (B. Apr. 27, 1825); George Ponty, (B. Oct 24 1826, D. Feb 15, 1827 at 16 Strand St.) James, (B. Sept. 3 1828) Magdalene died Oct 27, 1828 in Cape Town and George moved back to Scotland. I am going to be in Cape Town at the end of October and would like to verify the above and obtain further information if possible. How would I go about checking the marriage, births and deaths - through civil registration or parish records? Are any of the early records indexed and/or transcribed? What cemeteries would have been in use in the 1820's? Any information that would assist me as I have limited time would be appreciated. Jim Westell Sharon, Ontario, Canada ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== FamilyTree.co.za.......it's the place to hang out and do your Family Tree ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hello All on the List Below is a X-Posting from the SOUTH AFRICA IMMIGRANTS LIST which I am passing on with the permission of Dennis Pretorius - might clear up the situation regarding the digital cameras - regards Sharon Warr Hallo Delia I had contact with Lerita Pretorius at the National Archives in Pretoria and there appears to be no threat of "outlawing" of Digital Cameras. The National Archives will be embarking on a campaign to preserve documents and one of the actions will be to "outlaw" the use of photocopy machines by visitors to the Archives Repository. Trained officials will make copies on request - but this will result in a time delay. Requested documents will probably only be mailed to the requesters a few days later. Handheld scanners will be "outlawed" - with no exceptions Pens will be "outlawed" - only pencils The General Rule will be NO CAMERAS - however permission may be granted by the Reading Room staff for the use of Digital Cameras without the use of flashes. The permission will be applicable only on that particular visit - you will have to apply for permission on each visit. I do not think that the above rules are unreasonable - and if it results in better preservation of documents we should support the initiative. Kind regards Dennis Pretorius Commercial Genealogical Researcher/Kommersiële Genealogiese Navorser List Owner of SAGenealogy E-mail list/Lyseienaar SAGenealogie poslys E-Mail/E-pos: Krugersdorp@pixie.co.za Web address/Webadres: http://mzone.mweb.co.za/residents/k75/genealogy.html Telephone/Telefoon: +27-83-324-2238 View 1800s SOUTH AFRICAN PASSENGER LISTS at http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/DataArchive.htm SCRIBES PUBLISHING for Colonial Books on CD - visit http://www.sagenealogy.co.za/Scribes.htm