Hi Folks Please join me in welcoming somebody named Booth to the List. Hope you going to be very happy with us. I'm not sure what surname you are researching, so have used your surname as a guide to add a snippet of news from an Eastern Cape Newspaper. Herald, 8 Dec 2003 Hugh Baakens' Diary Yesterday's 'Sweethearts in Song' charmed PE [edited] Two very senior staff members were raging at each other down the corridor at Newspaper House, the home of the Herald. Both men had a great interest, and involvement, in local music. One more as a critic, the other as an enthusiastic choral singer and sometimes as a critic, too. The row was over a soloist in an oratorio, a singer with a very famous name: Webster BOOTH. He'd been performing at the Port Elizabeth oratorio festival, and one party to the quarrel had written a crit making plain that BOOTH was past his best and ought to retire. The other man was a member of that choir and he felt that the critique had been unkind or, at least disrespectful, to a great name in the world of music, which, of course, BOOTH, in his heyday, had been. The BOOTHs were indeed something special. Year after year, Webster BOOTH and his charming and talented wife, Anne ZIEGLER, would come to Port Elizabeth so he could participate in the Messiah, and sometimes the BOOTHs would stage a duet soiree of their own. Their gracious old-fashioned stage manner towards each other, bows and curtseys much to the fore, charmed local audiences as they had charmed their multitudinous fans all over the world in earlier years. Webster BOOTH would be dapper in white tie and tails, and Anne ZIEGLER superbly coifed in low-cut evening gowns, her skirts a-spangle over crinolines. Their manners towards each other would not have gone amiss at Louis XIV's Versailles. The BOOTHs didn't have any children, but they enjoyed what they did best, finding pleasure in serenading one another and their loyal band of fans. Sometime in the 1950s, it seems, they came to retire at Knysna with all the accoutrements of stardom, including fluffy dogs. But as old age crept on, they decided to return to their native England (despite her somewhat Germanic stage name, Anne had been born Irene Frances EASTWOOD in Liverpool in 1910). Their last public performance together came a year before BOOTH's death in 1983. Now news has come, via London's Daily Telegraph, that Anne, too, has died, aged 93. In its splendid obituary, it said: "Her gentle soprano and his wholesome tenor were a welcome comfort to radio listeners during and after the war years when their romantic light-classical duets became favourites of the Light Programme''. "Billed as 'Sweethearts in Song', Anne ZIEGLER and her husband specialised in popular operetta and musical comedy. Wearing evening dress, and with hands clasped, the couple would gaze into each other's eyes trilling such tunes as 'Only A Rose', 'We'll Gather Lilacs' and 'If You Were the Only Girl in the World'." The Daily Telegraph could not resist a tease about their performance in 'The Vagabond King', in which BOOTHS's character had to make an escape from a Napoleonic prison in the company of the character played by ZIEGLER. "There is plenty of good singing," it commented at the time. Mr. BOOTH and Miss ZIEGLER frequently risk their lives by bursting into loud song when they ought to be escaping." This charming couple's 20 years in South Africa were a blessing to many, not least Port Elizabethans to whom they gave much pleasure. Best wishes Becky

28 May 1820 Some of Hayhurst's Party had been located on the right bank of Kap River, at a distance from their leader at Trappes Valley. They now asked to be placed under the direction of George WATSON. They were John BISSITT, Andrew COUNCEL, Thomas DERBYSHIRE, Robert and Thomas ECCLES, Robert FOXCROFT, Stephen and William GRADWELL, Robert KELBRICK, James MURRAY, John OXLEY and John WALKER. Lt. John BAILIE had been granted land adjacent to his location, and named it 'The Hope'. From there he wrote submitting lists of his Party. At this date his own subdivision consisted of Matthew ADAMS, William BALL, James BIDDULPH, Lt. John BIDDULPH, R.N., Simon BIDDULPH, Robert BOVEY, John CHASE, Capt. Henry CRAUSE, 2nd Garrison Battalion, James LOW, Thomas MATTHEW, Thomas MEAD, Surgeon Edward ROBERTS, James SHOIRTMAN and Francis WHITTAL, with their families. Pigot's Party reached its location at Blue Rock Post, and Major George PIGOT took over the post as hi residence. He had brought £5,000 to lay out on improvements among the settlers. Christopher FRANZ remained at Port Elizabeth with Frederick KORSTEN. Conclusion of May 1820 entries. SOURCE: The Lower Albany Chronicle Part One 1806-1825 compiled by E. MORSE JONES Best wishes Becky

19 May 1820 Subdivision of Bailie's Party was sanctioned as it was found to be too large for administration. Portions were now supervised by Lt. John BAILIE, Thomas ADAMS, James FORD, William HARRISON and Thomas WAKEFORD. 20 May 1820 Sir Rufane DONKIN reported the establishment of the town of Bathurst and the allotment of five hundred acres of Glebe for a Clergyman. He asked for the appointment of a Chaplin of the Church of England. 23 May 1820 Capt. Charles TRAPPES arrived at Bathurst from Fort Frederick to assume administration of the Settlement. He established his office in a marquee near the spring, on the south side of York Street. A ration Store, on the north side of Donkin Terrace, was opened for a monthly issue of meat, flour, tea, sugar and candles. The distance of the more remote locations was going to mean a long journey on foot for many of the settlers. Walking to Bathurst. the men would get back to their families on about the fourth day, and lacking a vehicle or pack-animal, would get back to their families with only as much as they could individually carry. 26 May 1820 Surgeon Daniel O'FLINN was appointed Provisional Medical Officer for Bathurst at £45 per annum, with ninepence per day for forage for a horse. George KOLBE, Francis and William STANLEY, Allen WALL and William WHILEY reported from Spanish Reeds Place on their difficulty in procuring rations. 27 May 1820 Hayhurst's and Wainright's Parties were on their locations. More to follow. SOURCE: The Lower Albany Chronicle Part One 1806-1825 compiled by E. MORSE JONES Best wishes Becky

11 May 1820 The leading party of another batch crossed Blaauw Krantz River and halted at Blue Rock Post. These were led by Thomas *PHILLIPPS and had come by the northerly and not coastal route, The batch numbered about five hundred under party leaders Samuel BRADSHAW, James GREATHEAD, William HOLDER, George SOUTHEY, Richard HAYHURST, Charles DALGAIRNS, Thomas MAHONEY, Major George PIGOT, Charles MOUNCEY and Jonathan WAINRIGHT, and they were to move to Lower Albany in the ensuing days. Thomas *PHILLIPPS' Party remained at the post for the night, to deal with an overturned wagon, while he drove his sheep as far as Waai Plaats Post and returned to them. 12 May 1820 Capt. Henry SOMERSET, with thirteen men of the Cape Regiment, overtook *Phillipps' Party on its way to its location at Trompetter's kraal, where camp was made near to the burned homestead. They were originally to have settled in Lemon Valley, right bank tributary to Torrens River, but that was now allotted to Bradshaw's Party. By the homestead were about two acres of vines planted by Barend LINDEQUE. 14 May 1820 Col. Jacob CUYLER and Henry ELLIS, the Deputy Colonial Secretary, camped near *Philipps' location. 15 May 1820 Mary OWN of *Philipps' Party left for Grahamstown where she obtained employment while on her way to her location, Lampeter. *PHILLIPPS or PHILIPPS - spelling of this surname keeps on changing. More to follow. SOURCE: The Lower Albany Chronicle Part One 1806-1825 compiled by E. MORSE JONES Best wishes Becky

1 May 1820 Col. Jacob CUYLER rode with Lt. John BAILIE to the Fish River mouth to discuss the latter's harbour project. 2 May 1820 Col. Jacob CUYLER assembled the people of Bailie's Party, and told them again officially of the conditions of settlement under which heads of families were eventually to receive a hundred acres of land, if the conditions were fulfilled, of the method of drawing rations against deposits which had been made in the United Kingdom, and the necessity of having their guns always at hand as they went about their daily work. He then took his leave to lead the other parties of the convoy to their respective locations. The people of Bailie's Party resolved to name their camp Cuyler Town to his honour. Crause's Party was sat down immediately adjacent to Bailie's Party. 4 May 1820 Bartholomew GUNNING wrote to his former employers in England, describing what he considered to be his misfortune in the Settlement, and saying that he was trying to get permission to move to Cape Town. 9 May 1820 Owen's Party had been set on its location on the right bank of the Spanish Reeds stream, Mandy's Party at its source, and Rowles' on the right bank of the Kap River, now Thornhill and Enterprise, and Scott's astride it. Col. Jacob CUYLER had made his camp on Thorn Ridge, on Bathurst Commonage, near the sources of the Lynedoch River, a point from which the Settlement could be overlooked from the Bushman's to the Fish River, from the shore up to the Waai Plaats Hill. The Acting Governor, Sir Rufane DONKIN, had arrived there and had selected a site, just west of Thorn Ridge, for a centre for the civil administration of the Settlement. As the seat of Magistracy, it was to supersede Grahamstown as the capital town of Albany, and it was named Bathurst in honour of Earl Bathurst, Secretary for the Colonies. Surgeon Daniel O'FLINN had moved up to Grahamstown, and was living in a marquee there. Mandy's Party named their camp centre King George Town. More to follow. SOURCE: The Lower Albany Chronicle Part One 1806-1825 compiled by E. MORSE JONES Best wishes Becky

26 April 1820 The convoy moved to the Kowie River and the wagons entered the river at the drift. In the passage, Francis, son of Francis STANLEY of Owens' Party, was drowned, the only fatality in what was frequently a hazardous crossing. The length of the convoy resulted in many wagons not enjoying the period of lowest ebb. It then moved on round the head of the next small stream, Rufane River, to prepare for the crossing of the George River at the drift above the tide mark. 30 April 1820 Having crossed the George River at the drift, and passed round the blind mouths of the Lynedoch and Wellington Rivers, Col. Jacob CUYLER's convoy outspanned a mile from the left bank of the Wellington and four miles from the shore, near the site of Cuylerville Church. Here Bailie's Party reached its location after a journey of thirteen days and about 130 miles from Fort Frederick [Port Elizabeth]. Lt. John BAILIE had been allowed to choose this location, which lay near the mouth of the Fish River, where he hoped to be able to investigate the possibility of establish a port. This party's baggage was unloaded and tents were pitched. There were enough of these for one to be shared between women and children of several families until private shelters could be erected. On the east of this location, across the Fish River, were the Xhosa people with whom the Colony had been at war only some seven months earlier. A measure of protection for the Settlement was afforded by patrols along the Fish River Valley, which were being made by men of the Royal African Corps, stationed at Kaffir Drift Post. The population of the Mission at this time was seventeen Europeans, 186 Gonaquas and 120 other Africans. Conclusion of April 1820 entries. SOURCE: The Lower Albany Chronicle Part One 1806-1825 compiled by E. MORSE JONES Best wishes Becky

5 April 1820 A hundred men of the Cape Regiment left the Mission for the Kowie River. 25 April 1820 A convoy of ninety-six wagons, hired from Dutch farmers, came over Bushman's River at Jager's Drift, passed Theopolis Mission, and outspanned at Reed River Post. They carried the baggage of some four hundred settlers walking beside them, together with rations, tents to be employed until dwellings could be erected, and other gear. In charge was Col. Jacob CUYLER, accompanied by Johan KNOEBEL. These settlers comprised a number of parties, which had been recruited separately in the United Kingdom, each party under an appointed leader who was responsible for it. They had disembarked at Fort Frederick out of the first of over twenty transporters which were to arrive there. The party at the head of this column was one of over two hundred from London under Lt. John BAILIE, R.N., placed in the lead as it was to be the first to unload on its appointed location. The parties had undergone change enrolment, in numbers and in composition. Some of those listed had failed to embark for various reasons, some previously unlisted persons had taken up vacancies, people had died at sea, and children had been born and, after disembarkation, others had left their Party, losing their rights as settlers, and had failed to travel to the Settlement at all. Other parties travelling were those under Lt. Charles CRAUSE, R.N., Thomas OWEN, John MANDY, Thomas ROWLES and George SCOTT. More to follow. SOURCE: The Lower Albany Chronicle Part One 1806-1825 compiled by E. MORSE JONES Best wishes Becky

15 February 1820 Capt. Henry SOMERSET and his wife, Frances, had spent some days at Theopolis Mission, during which the Rev. John ULBRICHT had accompanied them on a fishing expedition at the Kasouga River Mouth. 29 February 1820 Johan KNOBEL, assisted by William ATMORE, had surveyed locations for settlers through Blue Rock Post and on down to Palmiet River, with his base at Waai Plaats Post. His map of the are recorded specific names for two un-named rivers, marked generically on an earlier map as "kleine monden. The western of these he named Lynedoch, after Lord Lynedoch, cousin of Col. John GRAHAM, an the eastern on Wellington River. The Mission now had a population of about five hundred. The people there were making lime for sale by burning sea-shells collected on the shore. SOURCE: The Lower Albany Chronicle Part One 1806-1825 compiled by E. MORSE JONES Best wishes Becky

1 January 1820 A detachment of the Royal African Corps was at Kaffir Drift Post. 13 January 1820 The Governor, Lord Charles SOMERSET, went on leave, and General Sir Rufane DONKIN, 44th Regiment, became Acting Governor. 29 January 1820 King George the third died. George, Prince of Wales, succeeded him. SOURCE: The Lower Albany Chronicle Part One 1806-1825 compiled by E. MORSE JONES Best wishes Becky

Hi Ivy Maybe hold that spit! My mail server is down for this and some other of my web based email addresses - they said emails sent to me would be returned to the sender as undeliverable. It could be that this poor edbarnard could be having the same problems. Try again in a couple of days and you may have joy (yes, I have also emailed people who supposedly are researching certain namkes, only to have my emails bounce back too, so I know what you mean...) Take care. Stella PS And if anyone has written to me over the past 24 hours, PLEASE try again!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivy Trott" <ivytrott@telkomsa.net> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:31 AM Subject: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] iT MAKES YOU WANT > to spit! It really does. I found a website with both the NEWTON and > TROTT names on it, sent an e-mail to the owner - and it bounced!!!. > > Anyone know who EDBARNARD may have been? His e-mail was > edbarnard@juno.com > > Thing is, somebody has been putting lots of family info onto the IGI from > a church member source, which is not accessible, and we are dying to know > who the unknown family genealogist is..... > > If anyone has any ideas, or is researching TROTT HENDRICKS NEWTON KEET > MEYER/S MYERS MEIER PRIDAY or WILLIAMS..... please get in touch. > > Well, you might as well add MANSON-KULLIN and PENTECOST to that also. > > Thank you, and go well! Ivy Trott. > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List > www.genealogy.co.za > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Thank you so much, Anne. I looked on Google, but didn't come across that! Just lately there have been a few keyholes appearing in the firmly closed door of my research, and hopefully..... The e-mail given on the genealogical web site bounces. I know that others are researching the same line and are as mired as I am, so will share anything I find... Go well! Ivy.

>From: "Ivy Trott" <ivytrott@telkomsa.net> >to spit! It really does. I found a website with both the NEWTON and >TROTT names on it, sent an e-mail to the owner - and it bounced!!!. > >Anyone know who EDBARNARD may have been? His e-mail was edbarnard@juno.com > >Thing is, somebody has been putting lots of family info onto the IGI from >a church member source, which is not accessible, and we are dying to know >who the unknown family genealogist is..... Dear Ivy He has a web site at http://www.aiusa.com/ebarnard/ He is also Vice President of the Syracuse Chapter Sons of the American Revolution, where there is an address and phone number: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyononda/SAR/ _______ __________/\/ \/\______ Anne Lehmkuhl, London, England http://www.rupert.net/~lkool/ Information & the South African Genealogical Research Directory

Hi Folks Please join me in welcoming Glen Kruger to the List. Hope you going to be very happy with us. I'm not sure what surname you are researching, so have used your surname as a guide to add a snippet of news from an Eastern Cape Newspaper. Herald, 3 Dec 2004 by Ivor Markman The week ending December 3, 1904. The steamer Batavia, carrying the remains of ex-President Paul KRUGER, steamed slowly into Table Bay with her flags at half-mast, and dropped anchor almost unnoticed and unrecognised, but when the steamers in and around the docks became aware of its identity, they dipped flags. The committee was received on board about two o'clock this afternoon. Dr LEYDS, who watched the preparations from the bridge, looked the picture of health, while Vice-Admiral McLEOD, of the Dutch Navy, personally directed all arrangements. The vessel will stay in the Bay until Thursday afternoon when she will be brought alongside the south arm and will occupy number two berth. The special funeral train arrived in Cape Town on Monday evening with Generals BOTHA, George BRAND, A D WOLMARANS and others, and a bodyguard of eight aboard. In Pretoria, owing to the dangerous condition of the tower of the old Dutch Reformed Church, in which Mr KRUGER's body will lie in state, the Public Works Department have ordered the immediate demolition of the spire and upper portion of the tower. Bad bricks and the rainy weather have caused rents to appear in the walls and partial sinking. Klerksdorp The first magistrate of the small community that settled on the banks of the Schoonspruit in 1837, Jacob de C'LERQ, gave his name to a town founded by Voortrekkers and built by gold mining. The discovery of gold in 1886 saw thousands of prospectors descending on the quiet rural aggregation of Klerksdorp. Today, Klerksdorp is the centre for a large mining and agricultural economy and has the second largest grain co-operative in the world. The Railway Station and Old Flag Room Opened by President Paul KRUGER when the line from Krugersdorp reached the town in 1897, Klerksdorp's first national monument. Best wishes Becky

Morning all Next Saturday the 19th March the Cape Town Family History Society will be having a course on The Internet and Research This is a two hour special "hands on" workshop" which will be held at the Media24 E-Centre & home of www.familytree.co.za + www.ancestry.mweb.co.za 46 Hof Street Gardens Time will be 2 for 2:30 sharp There is space for 7 people and the cost for non members is R30.00 including tea. Bookings need to be made no later than 5 o'clock on Wednesday 16th March. Please email your bookings to heather@learningonline.co.za kind thanks Heather Visit South Africa's premier Genealogy + Family History Web sites : www.familytree.co.za <http://www.familytree.co.za> + www.ancestry.mweb.co.za <http://www.ancestry.mweb.co.za>

to spit! It really does. I found a website with both the NEWTON and TROTT names on it, sent an e-mail to the owner - and it bounced!!!. Anyone know who EDBARNARD may have been? His e-mail was edbarnard@juno.com Thing is, somebody has been putting lots of family info onto the IGI from a church member source, which is not accessible, and we are dying to know who the unknown family genealogist is..... If anyone has any ideas, or is researching TROTT HENDRICKS NEWTON KEET MEYER/S MYERS MEIER PRIDAY or WILLIAMS..... please get in touch. Well, you might as well add MANSON-KULLIN and PENTECOST to that also. Thank you, and go well! Ivy Trott.

Could SKS do a few look ups for me in Cape Town. I would greatly appreciate it. KAB DOC LEER 4/1/93 02 219 1 MORTGAGE BOND WILLIAM DUPEN 1883 ---------- KAB DOC LEER 4/1/65 02 104 1 WILLIAM DUPEN MORTGAGE BOND 1882 ---------- KAB DOC LEER 4/1/44 02 29 1 DUPEN WILLIAM, MORTGAGE BOND 1882 --------- KAB DOC LEER 4/1/43 02 207 1 DUPEN WILLIAM MORTGAGE BOND 1882 Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks Sha Redfern

Good heavens, I was no help whatsoever, but if some odd thing stirs a memory, makes on look through an old box - well, great things hopefully will come of it. Best of luck with your research. Ivy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Cooper" <jennifer@buckspoint.f2s.com> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX > Hi Ivy > > I seem to have stirred some memories.......although the family name is > Russell...John Robert the 13th Duke was known as Lord Howland when he was > growing up. I live relatively close to Woburn Abbey, the family seat here > in England. > I have spent the afternoon looking through a box of old photos, taken by > my father when he was stationed in Cape Town, mainly from the 1940's. I > was hoping to find a few clues. Amongst them was a photo of the Duke with > my mother and other ladies from the 'Womens Institute' taken at Woburn. > plus I did find 2 membership cards dated 1955 for the Methodist Church of > South Africa, Cape Town Metropolitan Circuit, Woodstock, belonging to my > grandparents, so that might help me for searching records. > > I also came across a 'Welcome to Cape Town' booklet.....Information for > Visiting Troops which makes very interesting reading and a letter from > the London committee of the South African Red Cross Society dated 3rd > march 1946 welcoming my mother to England. There were addresses for three > ladies, Peggy Trent and Doris De Klerk and Bertha Pentz. The first 2 were > her school friends I think and Miss Pentz was a Sunday School teacher. I > lost touch with her a few years ago before I began family History. The > last I heard she was thinking of going into a home. > > Apologies for waffling. I am grateful for your help. > > best wishes > Jennifer Cooper in Milton Keynes where it is snowing! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Foster, Coral A." <Coral.Anna.Foster@wwrc.virginia.gov> > To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:16 PM > Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX > > >> Well, I know that Lorna's name was not Russell, but it'll come back to me >> when the grey matter warms up from our frigid 17ºF morning air!! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ivy Trott [mailto:ivytrott@telkomsa.net] >> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 2:42 AM >> To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX >> >> >> The family name seems to be Russell. >> >> I am so glad this subject was brought up. I would never ever have >> thought >> of putting 'Duke of Bedford + South Africa" into Google if there had not >> been this correspondence on the List. What treasures I found! Not what >> our >> correspondent wanted - well, I gave up after exploring 10 pages! - but >> there >> were lots of Boer War references, stacks on zoos and animals, of course, >> and >> a lovely Appreciation of Georgette Heyer. >> >> Did you know that GH's novel 'The Spanish Bride' was based on the >> Autobiography of Sir Harry Smith? I didn't, and as I lived for a while >> in >> Port Elizabeth I appreciate the book all the more. Now off to amazon.com >> to >> see if I can find a copy.... >> >> Thank you, and sorry I couldn't help more. >> Go well! Ivy Trott. >> >> >> ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== >> Heather's South African Genealogy Help List >> www.genealogy.co.za >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. 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Hi Ivy I seem to have stirred some memories.......although the family name is Russell...John Robert the 13th Duke was known as Lord Howland when he was growing up. I live relatively close to Woburn Abbey, the family seat here in England. I have spent the afternoon looking through a box of old photos, taken by my father when he was stationed in Cape Town, mainly from the 1940's. I was hoping to find a few clues. Amongst them was a photo of the Duke with my mother and other ladies from the 'Womens Institute' taken at Woburn. plus I did find 2 membership cards dated 1955 for the Methodist Church of South Africa, Cape Town Metropolitan Circuit, Woodstock, belonging to my grandparents, so that might help me for searching records. I also came across a 'Welcome to Cape Town' booklet.....Information for Visiting Troops which makes very interesting reading and a letter from the London committee of the South African Red Cross Society dated 3rd march 1946 welcoming my mother to England. There were addresses for three ladies, Peggy Trent and Doris De Klerk and Bertha Pentz. The first 2 were her school friends I think and Miss Pentz was a Sunday School teacher. I lost touch with her a few years ago before I began family History. The last I heard she was thinking of going into a home. Apologies for waffling. I am grateful for your help. best wishes Jennifer Cooper in Milton Keynes where it is snowing! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Foster, Coral A." <Coral.Anna.Foster@wwrc.virginia.gov> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX > Well, I know that Lorna's name was not Russell, but it'll come back to me > when the grey matter warms up from our frigid 17ºF morning air!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ivy Trott [mailto:ivytrott@telkomsa.net] > Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 2:42 AM > To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX > > > The family name seems to be Russell. > > I am so glad this subject was brought up. I would never ever have thought > of putting 'Duke of Bedford + South Africa" into Google if there had not > been this correspondence on the List. What treasures I found! Not what > our > correspondent wanted - well, I gave up after exploring 10 pages! - but > there > were lots of Boer War references, stacks on zoos and animals, of course, > and > a lovely Appreciation of Georgette Heyer. > > Did you know that GH's novel 'The Spanish Bride' was based on the > Autobiography of Sir Harry Smith? I didn't, and as I lived for a while in > Port Elizabeth I appreciate the book all the more. Now off to amazon.com > to > see if I can find a copy.... > > Thank you, and sorry I couldn't help more. > Go well! Ivy Trott. > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List > www.genealogy.co.za > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > * CONFIDENTIALITY/PRIVACY NOTICE - The documents included in this > transmission may contain information that is confidential and/or legally > privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or > agent responsible for delivering the information to the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of these > documents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document in > error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or > destruction of these documents. > > > > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== > Heather's South African Genealogy Help List > www.genealogy.co.za > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Sorry, I meant the family name of the Dukes of Bedford was Russell - remember Sir Bertam Russell? But maybe you are too young! Go well! Ivy Trott. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Foster, Coral A." <Coral.Anna.Foster@wwrc.virginia.gov> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX > Well, I know that Lorna's name was not Russell, but it'll come back to me > when the grey matter warms up from our frigid 17ºF morning air!! >

I do remember ABOUT him!! He was a LITTLE before my time, I'm more from the Churchillian Empire :O) -----Original Message----- From: Ivy Trott [mailto:ivytrott@telkomsa.net] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 9:43 AM To: SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX Sorry, I meant the family name of the Dukes of Bedford was Russell - remember Sir Bertam Russell? But maybe you are too young! Go well! Ivy Trott. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Foster, Coral A." <Coral.Anna.Foster@wwrc.virginia.gov> To: <SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 3:16 PM Subject: RE: [South-Africa-Cape-Town] COX > Well, I know that Lorna's name was not Russell, but it'll come back to me > when the grey matter warms up from our frigid 17ºF morning air!! > ==== SOUTH-AFRICA-CAPE-TOWN Mailing List ==== Cape Town Family History Society www.genealogy.co.za/society/socweb.htm ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx * CONFIDENTIALITY/PRIVACY NOTICE - The documents included in this transmission may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the information to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of these documents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this document in error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange for return or destruction of these documents.